October 14th, 2018 1:33 PM
CULTURAL DIFFERENCES IN ACTIVE WARFARE STRATEGIES
—“Curt, are Russians Pragmatists?”—
[R]ussians (Orthodoxy) learned from Mongols (Brutality) and Bolshevik Jews (Propaganda, and Polluting the CIvic Informational Well) that the CHEAPEST WARFARE is gossip and undermining (propaganda and ideology). The gradual decay of the will of the people to care for and defend one another.
Just as judaism and christianity undermined the roman empire, allowing the north (germans) and east (muslims) to invade in times of weakness due to over expansion, the Russians (orthodox, mongols) and the Bolsheviks (Jewish Socialists and Communists) understood that they don’t need to do anything to the west except sew dissent by feeding envy.
The west runs on trust, risk taking, commons, and rule of law. It is the most difficult and expensive set of norms to develop. Because commons have higher returns(multipliers) than private investments. All Enemies have to do is destroy the trust between the classes (martial, priesthood, burgher, labor), and the cultural, economic and military advantage of the west (commons) is destroyed.
Russians are not pragmatists, they are persistent goal oriented, expansionist underminers, who wait, then invade and hold territory in a rush, and destroy the capital structure, and take possession of all assets.
Russians are at present only a power becauase of their inventory of missiles. But they have a tiny economy unable to wage war, or even produce weapons in sufficient numbers to conduct current warfare on other than a narrow channel into russian territory.
Russians did the same thing in Crimea twice now that they did in the caucuses twice now. They are doing the same thing in ukraine: keep raiding, funding dissent, informational undermining, blowing up industry, blowing up ammunition, conducting assassinations, setting arson fires, and when the West is in a moment of weakness they will expand to at least the Dnipr if not all the way to the mountains. Because with the mountains they can reach south again.
1 – The Chinese slowly move, assimilate, and boil the frog.
2 – The Russians(Mongols) undermine, and then seize opportunities.
3 – The Jews and muslims (Semites) invade, undermine, and seize opportunities from within.
4 – The Hindus (Hindu) do nothing except take care of themselves.
5 – The West (Christian Monarchies) is optimistic and stupid and fights as if we are still fighting our own.
6 – And america has spent a century trying to preserve the british empire so that everyone could evolve into a good international citizen at the cost of much blood and treasure, and so that we never have another world war.
Unfortunately, the CHinese, Russians, Semites (jews and muslims), and now the frenc-german alliance, are cumulatively making that ORDER impossible.
The primary reason? Hispanic immigration. THat’s right.
With that threat we cannot maintain the martial civic order that exports that power. We are done.
Curt Doolittle
—“If a man/woman says that s/he’s too damaged for you (or too neurotic, or too anything) just take his/her word for it.”—
Translated : “I have to monitor myself when I am with you and I do not believe I will be able to maintain this behavior indefinitely because it’s exhausting.”
—“If you’re bored out of your mind at a venue, you’re probably not going to meet anyone there who you will want to date. Go where others are that you aren’t bored.”—
(My Market: Any Art Classes. Artsy girls are best. ) Most important reason? You find mates where you aren’t looking for them. So find something to do (primary) so that overzealousness doesn’t force you to see what isnt there.
–“Sometimes significant others have little annoying habits.”-
If you learn to love them, or accomodate them, that will work, but you cannot learn to tolerate, or ignore them. Doesn’t work.
–“Slutty behavior by either gender is a recipe for marital failure, and marital falure is far worse for your life than bankruptcy or business failure or losing multiple jobs.”–
Just the data. People who professionalize ‘shopping, trying out, and moving on’ develop the habit for life.
—“Alcohol and Drugs Do Not Improve With Age”—
Sorry. Just is. Everyone goes to college and tries. Those who don’t stop trying are always a problem. Cellular damage accumulates.
—“Find someone you feel very lucky to be with. the men who are ‘Players’ who commit do so because they found a woman worth commiting for: they can’t believe they got her. Women are different. They don’t want to think they have married down.”—
One party or the other must be totally committed no matter what. Men are loyal and women are devoted. There is a difference.
—“Men cheat for the sole purpose of sex, or because they are married to a nag, harpie, complainer. Women cheat to discover if they can trade up.”—
—“The current order where men and women are ‘equal’ poses a problem for women who want first tier men. The reason is that once you are successful, younger women who demand fewer compromises are always and everywhere preferable to older women to continue to privatize and monopolize your opportunities.”—
—“The current order where women are more fungible in the work force poses a problem for men: if you are a house husband or the equivalent you better stay (a) fit, (b) groomed, (c) interesting, and (d) involved in some activity with other males (e) save your own money overseas.”—
—“In general, all men should save their own exit money overseas”—
October 14th, 2018 1:13 PM
AFRICAN CIVILIZATION
[I] dunno man. We clearly have different understandings of africans. They are, by and large, the most optimistic, pro-social, least ideological people on the planet right now.
They’re like the youngest child that learned from all the mistakes of their older siblings, and is determined not to repeat them. If the british had not interfered we would have seen a west african consolidated empire, and they would be at least at the level of south americans by now.
If you look at the questions I get from around the world it’s Africans and South Americans that are least likely to believe nonsense, and most likely to simply judge mankind empirically
Why? They have not lost sight of humanity up-close-and-personal, and are not fooled by propaganda, false history, and cults because of it.
October 14th, 2018 8:53 AM
INTELLIGENCE TESTING AND NEURAL ECONOMY
[M]y understanding of the Analytic (external) to Empathic (internal) Spectrum of Grammars used in intelligence testing.
|| Raven’s(Patterns) < Math(Short term memory) < Logic < Vocabulary < Argument(Judgement) < Interpretation of Prose (Reading Comprehension).
Like anything else, these tend to be gender biased if for no other reason than we train our brains by the route with the most available information to train our brains.
Not complicated. Networks do what they do. Inputs determine categories, values, and relations.
Neural plasticity exists, however, neural economies also exist. And like all things, we pay for one thing in lieu of paying for another.
Now, I don’t believe in multiple intelligences simply because intelligence scales in concert across all abilities. But with that scaling we still encounter the difference between the vertical (analytic) male brain structure of specialization and horizontal (synthetic) female brain structure of generalization.
Distributions in everything.
—“If a man/woman says that s/he’s too damaged for you (or too neurotic, or too anything) just take his/her word for it.”—
Translated : “I have to monitor myself when I am with you and I do not believe I will be able to maintain this behavior indefinitely because it’s exhausting.”
—“If you’re bored out of your mind at a venue, you’re probably not going to meet anyone there who you will want to date. Go where others are that you aren’t bored.”—
(My Market: Any Art Classes. Artsy girls are best. ) Most important reason? You find mates where you aren’t looking for them. So find something to do (primary) so that overzealousness doesn’t force you to see what isnt there.
–“Sometimes significant others have little annoying habits.”-
If you learn to love them, or accomodate them, that will work, but you cannot learn to tolerate, or ignore them. Doesn’t work.
–“Slutty behavior by either gender is a recipe for marital failure, and marital falure is far worse for your life than bankruptcy or business failure or losing multiple jobs.”–
Just the data. People who professionalize ‘shopping, trying out, and moving on’ develop the habit for life.
—“Alcohol and Drugs Do Not Improve With Age”—
Sorry. Just is. Everyone goes to college and tries. Those who don’t stop trying are always a problem. Cellular damage accumulates.
—“Find someone you feel very lucky to be with. the men who are ‘Players’ who commit do so because they found a woman worth commiting for: they can’t believe they got her. Women are different. They don’t want to think they have married down.”—
One party or the other must be totally committed no matter what. Men are loyal and women are devoted. There is a difference.
—“Men cheat for the sole purpose of sex, or because they are married to a nag, harpie, complainer. Women cheat to discover if they can trade up.”—
—“The current order where men and women are ‘equal’ poses a problem for women who want first tier men. The reason is that once you are successful, younger women who demand fewer compromises are always and everywhere preferable to older women to continue to privatize and monopolize your opportunities.”—
—“The current order where women are more fungible in the work force poses a problem for men: if you are a house husband or the equivalent you better stay (a) fit, (b) groomed, (c) interesting, and (d) involved in some activity with other males (e) save your own money overseas.”—
—“In general, all men should save their own exit money overseas”—
October 14th, 2018 8:42 AM
WHY FRANCE MATTERS?
(Smart Selfishness)
[A]n insignificant power unworthy of security council participation and constantly hostile to western interests. But, within europe:
(a) she can grow her own food, and a diversity of it. she concentrated population in urban areas to preserve her food capacity.
(b) investment in nuclear power makes her relatively energy independent
(c) Nuclear weapons makes her relatively invulnerable.
(d) Preservation of central african colonial presence means she maintains a small but trained military.
(e) Germany carries the entire risk of the european effort (not france) by using the Mark as the Euro, and having germany dependent upon (american-defended) global trade.
(f) France is responsible for the majority of leftist thought leadership, because she (like the russians) believes her revolution (as the russians their fight against germany) is the founding mythos (rather than the french nation (people) are the founding mythos. And france was and remains the most feminine country in europe in use of language, grammar, argument, political order, social order, and international negotiation technique.
(g) France is the gateway for the Islamization and Semitization of europe, because she is dependent upon african and islamic wealth to preserve her economy.
When the crisis comes France can defeat germany for control of european course. This means that eastern europe and russia will be the strong powers in europe after the next ‘great economic and political conflict that will occur due to demographics within the next twenty years.
October 14th, 2018 8:42 AM
WHY FRANCE MATTERS?
(Smart Selfishness)
[A]n insignificant power unworthy of security council participation and constantly hostile to western interests. But, within europe:
(a) she can grow her own food, and a diversity of it. she concentrated population in urban areas to preserve her food capacity.
(b) investment in nuclear power makes her relatively energy independent
(c) Nuclear weapons makes her relatively invulnerable.
(d) Preservation of central african colonial presence means she maintains a small but trained military.
(e) Germany carries the entire risk of the european effort (not france) by using the Mark as the Euro, and having germany dependent upon (american-defended) global trade.
(f) France is responsible for the majority of leftist thought leadership, because she (like the russians) believes her revolution (as the russians their fight against germany) is the founding mythos (rather than the french nation (people) are the founding mythos. And france was and remains the most feminine country in europe in use of language, grammar, argument, political order, social order, and international negotiation technique.
(g) France is the gateway for the Islamization and Semitization of europe, because she is dependent upon african and islamic wealth to preserve her economy.
When the crisis comes France can defeat germany for control of european course. This means that eastern europe and russia will be the strong powers in europe after the next ‘great economic and political conflict that will occur due to demographics within the next twenty years.
photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/44022992_10156708409542264_6728250330007470080_o_10156708409537264.jpg Assuming Tesla makes it to 2020 with the Roadster (at $200K) it is going to be VERY difficult to justify buying any other sports car on the market. If they get it down to 120-150k, it will crush Porsche, and dig a hole for Ferrari. I mean, it’s very, very hard to argue with those specs and 650m range. That’s a grand tourer (4 seat) supercar for cheap, with nearly perfect balance.
Right now my favorite car on the market are still the aston and jaguar. But it’s really hard to look at this thing and say … well, you know, everything else is a steam powered horse and buggy by comparison.Renan RibeiroIts a looker too. Paint it black and remove the backseats and it is a beast.Oct 14, 2018, 3:56 PMJay SchmittEvery wealthy person will want this in their car collection. And there are *many millions* of wealthy people. That’s why Tesla is never going out of business. Like Apple, they are taking electronics and turning them into highly desirable luxury goods. That translates into an extremely valuable brand name, which can be leveraged at the middle tier of the market. To keep up with the upper middle class, the middle class will aspire to own a $50,000 Tesla.Oct 14, 2018, 4:08 PMBjorn MoritzAre those specs real?Oct 14, 2018, 4:18 PMCurt Doolittlesure looks like it. the prototypes exist.Oct 14, 2018, 4:19 PMBjorn MoritzWow, that’s a game changer.Oct 14, 2018, 4:20 PMJay SchmittYes, it’s possible with today’s technology. The only issue is getting the price down from >$1,000,000 to $250,000. Musk can do that.Oct 14, 2018, 4:21 PMBjorn MoritzJay Schmitt I honestly don’t know why the US government doesn’t invest billions into SpaceX to keep ahead of the competition. I think they’ve proved themselves after the Falcon Heavy. Coolest thing I’ve ever seen. Let’s get ourselves back to the Moon and Mars. He must have a great team.Oct 14, 2018, 4:23 PMCurt Doolittle^^^ Well, that’s my opinion of Tesla, SpaceX and Boring. All three of these are not fundable by private market alone, but they are better MANAGED by private market alone.
Tesla created the market, and what has it cost the government? It doesn’t matter if the competition wins. It was simply the cheapest means possible of transferring from petroleum to electric vehicles….Oct 14, 2018, 4:25 PMJay SchmittYes, we could’ve done this ten years ago, possibly 15. But the funding suddenly appeared and made it possible.Oct 14, 2018, 4:27 PMBjorn MoritzCurt Doolittle in your opinion will he put man on mars in the next decade or is that just hype?Oct 14, 2018, 4:27 PMRastko MomcilovicSpaceX package. Instead of back seats you get cold air thrusters for acceleration beyond what any set of tires could handle.Oct 14, 2018, 4:28 PMCurt Doolittleback seats are necessary for her girlfriend to come along for the threesome.Oct 14, 2018, 4:32 PMHoward Van Der KlauwIn fairness Porsche (VAG) and Ferrari etc are not sitting on their hands. They are all working on hybrids and pure electric models. I saw Porsche release their first full electric concept about a week ago.Oct 14, 2018, 4:35 PMHoward Van Der Klauwhttps://www.topgear.com/car-news/frankfurt-motor-show/mission-e-porsches-600bhp-all-electric-sports-car-2018Oct 14, 2018, 4:36 PMJay SchmittYep, they are. But they don’t have the valuable brand name associated with electric vehicles that Tesla does. So they aren’t selling nearly as many cars.Oct 14, 2018, 4:36 PMHoward Van Der KlauwOne question is has Tesla squandered its technological lead through poor production management and opened the door for the traditional manufacturers to gazump them.Oct 14, 2018, 4:37 PMJay SchmittThat’s a bet I’m willing to take. I think Tesla will come out on top based on their brand name alone.Oct 14, 2018, 4:38 PMHoward Van Der KlauwJay Schmitt well we just have to wait and see if your earlier comment above about owning the top and expanding to the middle actually works as a strategy for them. Tesla has certainly done ground breaking work.Oct 14, 2018, 4:40 PMRastko MomcilovicThreesome vs rocket thrusters. Never have I had a more difficult dilemma.Oct 14, 2018, 4:43 PMJonathan Graehlfast. https://nsx.acura.com/explore/nsx is fast enough (200mph) and takes gas, thoughOct 14, 2018, 5:04 PMCurt Doolittlenah. japanese can’t design a car that doesn’t look like it fell off the shelf at a toy store. I’ll take italian, brit or german. ;)Oct 14, 2018, 5:09 PMBenjamin Slatten0-60 in 1.9 secs!Oct 14, 2018, 5:17 PMBenjamin SlattenOct 14, 2018, 5:17 PMArno KælandNo, you can’t have that acceleration and range nor can you have that speed and that range.. or aircon.. or your music playing.
Any other car manufacturer out there can bring this same product out.. indeed this is scarcely even a uniqe car – the current roadster is a Lotus Elise with a battery.
Assuming Tesla is around in two years’ time – why would folks want to pay 5x the price for something that is likely falling apart and has performance that appeals to weekend racers. It isn’t even useful for the Autobahn because it can’t deliver speed and range.Oct 14, 2018, 5:28 PMThiago Modelborn Pereira-BerthoNo because Porsches and Ferrari’s look much betterOct 14, 2018, 5:31 PMArno KælandCurt Doolittle this car was actually designed by a woman and I think she may have been an American. Design not popular.Oct 14, 2018, 5:32 PMCurt DoolittleBjorn Moritz he will run out of moneyOct 14, 2018, 5:54 PMArno KælandWhat really upsets me about Musk is Tesla – I’m convinced it will ruin what would, otherwise have been, a superhuman reputation.Oct 14, 2018, 5:55 PMReid DavisI’ve had many ffm situations, owning rocket thrusters on my whip I ain’t never had that, I’m tryin to get to see what that be like, I can hook up the ffm on foot patrol, over half of the US has da vajayjay, ain’t nobody got rockets on their supercars cept jay lenoOct 14, 2018, 6:02 PMJay SchmittAaron Kahland Tesla has the highest customer satisfaction of any car manufacturer. The Model S scored higher on crash safety tests than any other sedan. Tesla is currently outselling BMW and Mercedes in America.
It’s not nearly as easy to copy Tesla as you think. The engineering in these cars is 5 years ahead of any competitor.Oct 14, 2018, 6:07 PMJay SchmittThe reason people are so down on Tesla is because it’s the most-shorted stock in history. So there are literally billions of dollars behind the anti-Tesla propaganda machine.Oct 14, 2018, 6:08 PMJay SchmittYes.Oct 14, 2018, 6:19 PMJay SchmittThe demand for electric cars, particularly with the Tesla badge on them, is virtually unlimited. It’s like Ferrari or Lamborghini.Oct 14, 2018, 6:19 PMAaron BradleyIn a specific segment only of course… not overallOct 14, 2018, 6:21 PMArno KælandClaire Adelstein The answer is ‘no’. Tesla outsold BMW for ‘passenger cars’ – which Americans are scarcely buying – not ‘outselling BMW and Mercedes’ – who offer a wide variety of SUVs and outsell Tesla – not to mention make solid profits in doing so.Oct 14, 2018, 6:25 PMArno KælandJay Schmitt it is ridiculous to claim that Tesla’s brand value approximates that of Ferrari.Oct 14, 2018, 6:26 PMPerry MeyersI don’t know. People drop that kind of money for the brand name. You can’t substitute Ferrari of Lamborghini.Oct 14, 2018, 7:28 PMArne TorbkornssonWhere can you actually drive a car at 250 miles ? Nowhere….. after a certain point it’s just for showOct 14, 2018, 7:40 PMZachary BertCurt Doolittle Tell that to the NSX and GTR when they’re trouncing a ton of those German and Italian cars.Oct 14, 2018, 11:04 PMTorian BlackwellIts brand lost some sex appeal.Oct 14, 2018, 11:32 PMBjorn MoritzHere in Germany you can.Oct 14, 2018, 11:52 PMCurt Doolittleit doesn’t matter if the ugly chick can carry a bigger bag of potatoes. ;)Oct 15, 2018, 12:13 AMTony Goylionii dont know a thing about cars but thats retardedOct 15, 2018, 12:17 AMTony Goylioniretarded coolOct 15, 2018, 12:17 AMJay SchmittWould anyone want an electric Ferrari? No.Oct 15, 2018, 12:55 AMGordon GuanoThe gearhead side of propertarianism kinda caught me by surprise.Oct 15, 2018, 1:19 AMChristopher MatthewI like tesla 😉Oct 15, 2018, 6:11 AMJames HerzogEuropean supercar buyers will probably save big bucks on taxes, penalties, etc that they would normally have with supercars too.Oct 15, 2018, 10:15 AMFrancesco PrincipiNo. Electric cars = Vacuum cleanersOct 15, 2018, 3:02 PMAssuming Tesla makes it to 2020 with the Roadster (at $200K) it is going to be VERY difficult to justify buying any other sports car on the market. If they get it down to 120-150k, it will crush Porsche, and dig a hole for Ferrari. I mean, it’s very, very hard to argue with those specs and 650m range. That’s a grand tourer (4 seat) supercar for cheap, with nearly perfect balance.
Right now my favorite car on the market are still the aston and jaguar. But it’s really hard to look at this thing and say … well, you know, everything else is a steam powered horse and buggy by comparison.
photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/44022992_10156708409542264_6728250330007470080_o_10156708409537264.jpg Assuming Tesla makes it to 2020 with the Roadster (at $200K) it is going to be VERY difficult to justify buying any other sports car on the market. If they get it down to 120-150k, it will crush Porsche, and dig a hole for Ferrari. I mean, it’s very, very hard to argue with those specs and 650m range. That’s a grand tourer (4 seat) supercar for cheap, with nearly perfect balance.
Right now my favorite car on the market are still the aston and jaguar. But it’s really hard to look at this thing and say … well, you know, everything else is a steam powered horse and buggy by comparison.Renan RibeiroIts a looker too. Paint it black and remove the backseats and it is a beast.Oct 14, 2018, 3:56 PMJay SchmittEvery wealthy person will want this in their car collection. And there are *many millions* of wealthy people. That’s why Tesla is never going out of business. Like Apple, they are taking electronics and turning them into highly desirable luxury goods. That translates into an extremely valuable brand name, which can be leveraged at the middle tier of the market. To keep up with the upper middle class, the middle class will aspire to own a $50,000 Tesla.Oct 14, 2018, 4:08 PMBjorn MoritzAre those specs real?Oct 14, 2018, 4:18 PMCurt Doolittlesure looks like it. the prototypes exist.Oct 14, 2018, 4:19 PMBjorn MoritzWow, that’s a game changer.Oct 14, 2018, 4:20 PMJay SchmittYes, it’s possible with today’s technology. The only issue is getting the price down from >$1,000,000 to $250,000. Musk can do that.Oct 14, 2018, 4:21 PMBjorn MoritzJay Schmitt I honestly don’t know why the US government doesn’t invest billions into SpaceX to keep ahead of the competition. I think they’ve proved themselves after the Falcon Heavy. Coolest thing I’ve ever seen. Let’s get ourselves back to the Moon and Mars. He must have a great team.Oct 14, 2018, 4:23 PMCurt Doolittle^^^ Well, that’s my opinion of Tesla, SpaceX and Boring. All three of these are not fundable by private market alone, but they are better MANAGED by private market alone.
Tesla created the market, and what has it cost the government? It doesn’t matter if the competition wins. It was simply the cheapest means possible of transferring from petroleum to electric vehicles….Oct 14, 2018, 4:25 PMJay SchmittYes, we could’ve done this ten years ago, possibly 15. But the funding suddenly appeared and made it possible.Oct 14, 2018, 4:27 PMBjorn MoritzCurt Doolittle in your opinion will he put man on mars in the next decade or is that just hype?Oct 14, 2018, 4:27 PMRastko MomcilovicSpaceX package. Instead of back seats you get cold air thrusters for acceleration beyond what any set of tires could handle.Oct 14, 2018, 4:28 PMCurt Doolittleback seats are necessary for her girlfriend to come along for the threesome.Oct 14, 2018, 4:32 PMHoward Van Der KlauwIn fairness Porsche (VAG) and Ferrari etc are not sitting on their hands. They are all working on hybrids and pure electric models. I saw Porsche release their first full electric concept about a week ago.Oct 14, 2018, 4:35 PMHoward Van Der Klauwhttps://www.topgear.com/car-news/frankfurt-motor-show/mission-e-porsches-600bhp-all-electric-sports-car-2018Oct 14, 2018, 4:36 PMJay SchmittYep, they are. But they don’t have the valuable brand name associated with electric vehicles that Tesla does. So they aren’t selling nearly as many cars.Oct 14, 2018, 4:36 PMHoward Van Der KlauwOne question is has Tesla squandered its technological lead through poor production management and opened the door for the traditional manufacturers to gazump them.Oct 14, 2018, 4:37 PMJay SchmittThat’s a bet I’m willing to take. I think Tesla will come out on top based on their brand name alone.Oct 14, 2018, 4:38 PMHoward Van Der KlauwJay Schmitt well we just have to wait and see if your earlier comment above about owning the top and expanding to the middle actually works as a strategy for them. Tesla has certainly done ground breaking work.Oct 14, 2018, 4:40 PMRastko MomcilovicThreesome vs rocket thrusters. Never have I had a more difficult dilemma.Oct 14, 2018, 4:43 PMJonathan Graehlfast. https://nsx.acura.com/explore/nsx is fast enough (200mph) and takes gas, thoughOct 14, 2018, 5:04 PMCurt Doolittlenah. japanese can’t design a car that doesn’t look like it fell off the shelf at a toy store. I’ll take italian, brit or german. ;)Oct 14, 2018, 5:09 PMBenjamin Slatten0-60 in 1.9 secs!Oct 14, 2018, 5:17 PMBenjamin SlattenOct 14, 2018, 5:17 PMAaron KahlandNo, you can’t have that acceleration and range nor can you have that speed and that range.. or aircon.. or your music playing.
Any other car manufacturer out there can bring this same product out.. indeed this is scarcely even a uniqe car – the current roadster is a Lotus Elise with a battery.
Assuming Tesla is around in two years’ time – why would folks want to pay 5x the price for something that is likely falling apart and has performance that appeals to weekend racers. It isn’t even useful for the Autobahn because it can’t deliver speed and range.Oct 14, 2018, 5:28 PMThiago Modelborn Pereira-BerthoNo because Porsches and Ferrari’s look much betterOct 14, 2018, 5:31 PMAaron KahlandCurt Doolittle this car was actually designed by a woman and I think she may have been an American. Design not popular.Oct 14, 2018, 5:32 PMCurt DoolittleBjorn Moritz he will run out of moneyOct 14, 2018, 5:54 PMAaron KahlandWhat really upsets me about Musk is Tesla – I’m convinced it will ruin what would, otherwise have been, a superhuman reputation.Oct 14, 2018, 5:55 PMReid DavisI’ve had many ffm situations, owning rocket thrusters on my whip I ain’t never had that, I’m tryin to get to see what that be like, I can hook up the ffm on foot patrol, over half of the US has da vajayjay, ain’t nobody got rockets on their supercars cept jay lenoOct 14, 2018, 6:02 PMJay SchmittAaron Kahland Tesla has the highest customer satisfaction of any car manufacturer. The Model S scored higher on crash safety tests than any other sedan. Tesla is currently outselling BMW and Mercedes in America.
It’s not nearly as easy to copy Tesla as you think. The engineering in these cars is 5 years ahead of any competitor.Oct 14, 2018, 6:07 PMJay SchmittThe reason people are so down on Tesla is because it’s the most-shorted stock in history. So there are literally billions of dollars behind the anti-Tesla propaganda machine.Oct 14, 2018, 6:08 PMAmir MetzgerThey are outselling Mercedes in the United States?Oct 14, 2018, 6:17 PMJay SchmittYes.Oct 14, 2018, 6:19 PMAmir MetzgerThat’s impressive, if that’s the caseOct 14, 2018, 6:19 PMJay SchmittThe demand for electric cars, particularly with the Tesla badge on them, is virtually unlimited. It’s like Ferrari or Lamborghini.Oct 14, 2018, 6:19 PMAaron BradleyIn a specific segment only of course… not overallOct 14, 2018, 6:21 PMAaron KahlandClaire Adelstein The answer is ‘no’. Tesla outsold BMW for ‘passenger cars’ – which Americans are scarcely buying – not ‘outselling BMW and Mercedes’ – who offer a wide variety of SUVs and outsell Tesla – not to mention make solid profits in doing so.Oct 14, 2018, 6:25 PMAaron KahlandJay Schmitt it is ridiculous to claim that Tesla’s brand value approximates that of Ferrari.Oct 14, 2018, 6:26 PMAmir MetzgerYeah, I don’t know about Tesla having the brand value of any car like FerrariOct 14, 2018, 7:07 PMPerry MeyersI don’t know. People drop that kind of money for the brand name. You can’t substitute Ferrari of Lamborghini.Oct 14, 2018, 7:28 PMArne TorbkornssonWhere can you actually drive a car at 250 miles ? Nowhere….. after a certain point it’s just for showOct 14, 2018, 7:40 PMZachary BertCurt Doolittle Tell that to the NSX and GTR when they’re trouncing a ton of those German and Italian cars.Oct 14, 2018, 11:04 PMTorian BlackwellIts brand lost some sex appeal.Oct 14, 2018, 11:32 PMBjorn MoritzHere in Germany you can.Oct 14, 2018, 11:52 PMCurt Doolittleit doesn’t matter if the ugly chick can carry a bigger bag of potatoes. ;)Oct 15, 2018, 12:13 AMTony Goylionii dont know a thing about cars but thats retardedOct 15, 2018, 12:17 AMTony Goylioniretarded coolOct 15, 2018, 12:17 AMJay SchmittWould anyone want an electric Ferrari? No.Oct 15, 2018, 12:55 AMGordon GuanoThe gearhead side of propertarianism kinda caught me by surprise.Oct 15, 2018, 1:19 AMChristopher MatthewI like tesla 😉Oct 15, 2018, 6:11 AMJames HerzogEuropean supercar buyers will probably save big bucks on taxes, penalties, etc that they would normally have with supercars too.Oct 15, 2018, 10:15 AMFrancesco PrincipiNo. Electric cars = Vacuum cleanersOct 15, 2018, 3:02 PMAssuming Tesla makes it to 2020 with the Roadster (at $200K) it is going to be VERY difficult to justify buying any other sports car on the market. If they get it down to 120-150k, it will crush Porsche, and dig a hole for Ferrari. I mean, it’s very, very hard to argue with those specs and 650m range. That’s a grand tourer (4 seat) supercar for cheap, with nearly perfect balance.
Right now my favorite car on the market are still the aston and jaguar. But it’s really hard to look at this thing and say … well, you know, everything else is a steam powered horse and buggy by comparison.
photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/44022992_10156708409542264_6728250330007470080_o_10156708409537264.jpg Assuming Tesla makes it to 2020 with the Roadster (at $200K) it is going to be VERY difficult to justify buying any other sports car on the market. If they get it down to 120-150k, it will crush Porsche, and dig a hole for Ferrari. I mean, it’s very, very hard to argue with those specs and 650m range. That’s a grand tourer (4 seat) supercar for cheap, with nearly perfect balance.
Right now my favorite car on the market are still the aston and jaguar. But it’s really hard to look at this thing and say … well, you know, everything else is a steam powered horse and buggy by comparison.Renan RibeiroIts a looker too. Paint it black and remove the backseats and it is a beast.Oct 14, 2018 3:56pmJay SchmittEvery wealthy person will want this in their car collection. And there are *many millions* of wealthy people. That’s why Tesla is never going out of business. Like Apple, they are taking electronics and turning them into highly desirable luxury goods. That translates into an extremely valuable brand name, which can be leveraged at the middle tier of the market. To keep up with the upper middle class, the middle class will aspire to own a $50,000 Tesla.Oct 14, 2018 4:08pmBjorn MoritzAre those specs real?Oct 14, 2018 4:18pmCurt Doolittlesure looks like it. the prototypes exist.Oct 14, 2018 4:19pmBjorn MoritzWow, that’s a game changer.Oct 14, 2018 4:20pmJay SchmittYes, it’s possible with today’s technology. The only issue is getting the price down from >$1,000,000 to $250,000. Musk can do that.Oct 14, 2018 4:21pmBjorn Moritz@[100000467119517:2048:Jay Schmitt] I honestly don’t know why the US government doesn’t invest billions into SpaceX to keep ahead of the competition. I think they’ve proved themselves after the Falcon Heavy. Coolest thing I’ve ever seen. Let’s get ourselves back to the Moon and Mars. He must have a great team.Oct 14, 2018 4:23pmCurt Doolittle^^^ Well, that’s my opinion of Tesla, SpaceX and Boring. All three of these are not fundable by private market alone, but they are better MANAGED by private market alone.
Tesla created the market, and what has it cost the government? It doesn’t matter if the competition wins. It was simply the cheapest means possible of transferring from petroleum to electric vehicles….Oct 14, 2018 4:25pmJay SchmittYes, we could’ve done this ten years ago, possibly 15. But the funding suddenly appeared and made it possible.Oct 14, 2018 4:27pmBjorn Moritz@[741197263:2048:Curt Doolittle] in your opinion will he put man on mars in the next decade or is that just hype?Oct 14, 2018 4:27pmRastko MomcilovicSpaceX package. Instead of back seats you get cold air thrusters for acceleration beyond what any set of tires could handle.Oct 14, 2018 4:28pmCurt Doolittleback seats are necessary for her girlfriend to come along for the threesome.Oct 14, 2018 4:32pmHoward Van Der KlauwIn fairness Porsche (VAG) and Ferrari etc are not sitting on their hands. They are all working on hybrids and pure electric models. I saw Porsche release their first full electric concept about a week ago.Oct 14, 2018 4:35pmHoward Van Der Klauwhttps://www.topgear.com/car-news/frankfurt-motor-show/mission-e-porsches-600bhp-all-electric-sports-car-2018Oct 14, 2018 4:36pmJay SchmittYep, they are. But they don’t have the valuable brand name associated with electric vehicles that Tesla does. So they aren’t selling nearly as many cars.Oct 14, 2018 4:36pmHoward Van Der KlauwOne question is has Tesla squandered its technological lead through poor production management and opened the door for the traditional manufacturers to gazump them.Oct 14, 2018 4:37pmJay SchmittThat’s a bet I’m willing to take. I think Tesla will come out on top based on their brand name alone.Oct 14, 2018 4:38pmHoward Van Der Klauw@[100000467119517:2048:Jay Schmitt] well we just have to wait and see if your earlier comment above about owning the top and expanding to the middle actually works as a strategy for them. Tesla has certainly done ground breaking work.Oct 14, 2018 4:40pmRastko MomcilovicThreesome vs rocket thrusters. Never have I had a more difficult dilemma.Oct 14, 2018 4:43pmJonathan Graehlfast. https://nsx.acura.com/explore/nsx is fast enough (200mph) and takes gas, thoughOct 14, 2018 5:04pmCurt Doolittlenah. japanese can’t design a car that doesn’t look like it fell off the shelf at a toy store. I’ll take italian, brit or german. ;)Oct 14, 2018 5:09pmBenjamin Slatten0-60 in 1.9 secs!Oct 14, 2018 5:17pmBenjamin SlattenOct 14, 2018 5:17pmAaron KahlandNo, you can’t have that acceleration and range nor can you have that speed and that range.. or aircon.. or your music playing.
Any other car manufacturer out there can bring this same product out.. indeed this is scarcely even a uniqe car – the current roadster is a Lotus Elise with a battery.
Assuming Tesla is around in two years’ time – why would folks want to pay 5x the price for something that is likely falling apart and has performance that appeals to weekend racers. It isn’t even useful for the Autobahn because it can’t deliver speed and range.Oct 14, 2018 5:28pmThiago Modelborn Pereira-BerthoNo because Porsches and Ferrari’s look much betterOct 14, 2018 5:31pmAaron Kahland@[741197263:2048:Curt Doolittle] this car was actually designed by a woman and I think she may have been an American. Design not popular.Oct 14, 2018 5:32pmCurt Doolittle@[687166933:2048:Bjorn Moritz] he will run out of moneyOct 14, 2018 5:54pmAaron KahlandWhat really upsets me about Musk is Tesla – I’m convinced it will ruin what would, otherwise have been, a superhuman reputation.Oct 14, 2018 5:55pmReid DavisI’ve had many ffm situations, owning rocket thrusters on my whip I ain’t never had that, I’m tryin to get to see what that be like, I can hook up the ffm on foot patrol, over half of the US has da vajayjay, ain’t nobody got rockets on their supercars cept jay lenoOct 14, 2018 6:02pmScotty MorganToo bad I can’t afford that. Guess I’ll have to settle for Tesla stock.Oct 14, 2018 6:03pmAaron Kahlandyou certainly can’t afford that.Oct 14, 2018 6:05pmScotty Morgan@[1420794899:2048:Aaron Kahland] that’s what I said?Oct 14, 2018 6:07pmJay Schmitt@[1420794899:2048:Aaron Kahland] Tesla has the highest customer satisfaction of any car manufacturer. The Model S scored higher on crash safety tests than any other sedan. Tesla is currently outselling BMW and Mercedes in America.
It’s not nearly as easy to copy Tesla as you think. The engineering in these cars is 5 years ahead of any competitor.Oct 14, 2018 6:07pmJay SchmittThe reason people are so down on Tesla is because it’s the most-shorted stock in history. So there are literally billions of dollars behind the anti-Tesla propaganda machine.Oct 14, 2018 6:08pmAaron Kahland@[14210762:2048:Scotty Morgan] I mean the stock (because I expect it will drop to near zero)Oct 14, 2018 6:10pmJay SchmittDon’t listen to Aaron, he doesn’t understand how corporate finance works. I do.Oct 14, 2018 6:11pmJay SchmittAmazon was running much bigger deficits for much longer than Tesla. And they had more competition.Oct 14, 2018 6:11pmClaire AdelsteinThey are outselling Mercedes in the United States?Oct 14, 2018 6:17pmAaron Kahland@[100000467119517:2048:Jay Schmitt] yes, but as you understand corporate finance you’ll know that Amazon was generating serious cashflow whilst Tesla is burning it rapidly.Oct 14, 2018 6:18pmJay SchmittYes.Oct 14, 2018 6:19pmClaire AdelsteinThat’s impressive, if that’s the caseOct 14, 2018 6:19pmJay SchmittThe demand for electric cars, particularly with the Tesla badge on them, is virtually unlimited. It’s like Ferrari or Lamborghini.Oct 14, 2018 6:19pmAaron BradleyIn a specific segment only of course… not overallOct 14, 2018 6:21pmJay Schmitt@[1420794899:2048:Aaron Kahland] maybe that’s because Tesla was building factories. Ya think?Oct 14, 2018 6:21pmAaron Kahland@[100023432041550:2048:Claire Adelstein] The answer is ‘no’. Tesla outsold BMW for ‘passenger cars’ – which Americans are scarcely buying – not ‘outselling BMW and Mercedes’ – who offer a wide variety of SUVs and outsell Tesla – not to mention make solid profits in doing so.Oct 14, 2018 6:25pmAaron Kahland@[100000467119517:2048:Jay Schmitt] it is ridiculous to claim that Tesla’s brand value approximates that of Ferrari.Oct 14, 2018 6:26pmAaron Kahland@[100000467119517:2048:Jay Schmitt] Tesla’s free operating cashflow is very deeply in negative territory – that has nothing to do with capex.Oct 14, 2018 6:40pmAaron Kahland@[100000467119517:2048:Jay Schmitt] in the time we’ve been discussing this, Tesla has lost around a million in cash. Tick tock Mr Musk.Oct 14, 2018 6:41pmClaire AdelsteinYeah, I don’t know about Tesla having the brand value of any car like FerrariOct 14, 2018 7:07pmPerry MeyersI don’t know. People drop that kind of money for the brand name. You can’t substitute Ferrari of Lamborghini.Oct 14, 2018 7:28pmArne TorbkornssonWhere can you actually drive a car at 250 miles ? Nowhere….. after a certain point it’s just for showOct 14, 2018 7:40pmZachary Bert@[741197263:2048:Curt Doolittle] Tell that to the NSX and GTR when they’re trouncing a ton of those German and Italian cars.Oct 14, 2018 11:04pmTorian BlackwellIts brand lost some sex appeal.Oct 14, 2018 11:32pmBjorn MoritzHere in Germany you can.Oct 14, 2018 11:52pmCurt Doolittleit doesn’t matter if the ugly chick can carry a bigger bag of potatoes. ;)Oct 15, 2018 12:13amTony Goylionii dont know a thing about cars but thats retardedOct 15, 2018 12:17amTony Goylioniretarded coolOct 15, 2018 12:17amJay SchmittWould anyone want an electric Ferrari? No.Oct 15, 2018 12:55amGordon GuanoThe gearhead side of propertarianism kinda caught me by surprise.Oct 15, 2018 1:19amChristopher MatthewI like tesla 😉Oct 15, 2018 6:11amJames HerzogEuropean supercar buyers will probably save big bucks on taxes, penalties, etc that they would normally have with supercars too.Oct 15, 2018 10:15amFrancesco PrincipiNo. Electric cars = Vacuum cleanersOct 15, 2018 3:02pmAssuming Tesla makes it to 2020 with the Roadster (at $200K) it is going to be VERY difficult to justify buying any other sports car on the market. If they get it down to 120-150k, it will crush Porsche, and dig a hole for Ferrari. I mean, it’s very, very hard to argue with those specs and 650m range. That’s a grand tourer (4 seat) supercar for cheap, with nearly perfect balance.
Right now my favorite car on the market are still the aston and jaguar. But it’s really hard to look at this thing and say … well, you know, everything else is a steam powered horse and buggy by comparison.
