Category: Epistemology and Method

  • THE PROPERTARIAN CRITICISM OF PLATONIC TRUTH (important piece) –“We can speak a

    THE PROPERTARIAN CRITICISM OF PLATONIC TRUTH

    (important piece)

    –“We can speak about truth even without a warranty, and we don’t mean truthlike or agreed to be true, just plain true.”—Bruce

    Yes, but how do we know you are speaking truthfully?

    How do we prevent pseudoscience? Or are you, like free speech advocates, saying that the damage that is done by error is less than the good that is achieved by tolerating it? Which is terribly pragmatic. It’s also demonstrably false. Propagating false arguments turns out to be much more effective than true ones.

    Or do you claim that scientists should be able to engage in untruthful speech? Or are you saying that because truth is unknown and never knowable, that I can never speak the truth?

    ***What is the material difference between a theory stated truthfully (internally consistent and externally correspondent), and a theory not stated truthfully (internally consistent and externally correspondent) yet excused as not being possible to be true, and therefore not subject to requirement that it is spoken truthfully?***

    This isn’t an immaterial question. It is perhaps THE ethical question facing scientific investigation in ANY field.

    Evidence is that in hard science this rule is respected. Evidence is that outside of hard science it is not. Then difference is that hard science is a luxury good without opportunity cost, and everything else is — particularly politics and law, where laws do not perish like falsified theories. The communist manifesto, the labor theory of value, the possibility of a universally DESIRABLE moral code vs a universally moral set of laws. These are all false statements, because they are false in construction, not in prediction.

    You see, science is pretty much ‘irrelevant’ because it is a luxury good, but truth must apply universally no? or it is not truthful definition of truth?

    ***While it may be true that the ultimate truth (the most parsimonious statement possible) is the optimum definition of true, does that obviate us from pursuing it with truthful statements? Furthermore why not simply state the truth: that all truthfully constructed arguments and theories are true but incomplete, and constantly open to revision, rather than no theories are true except the one most parsimonious statement that we can never make?***

    You see, you might think it’s clear and simple – but it’s not. It’s just experience that has convinced you so.

    You see, popper’s warning is merely moral, not necessary. And I submit, like the ethics of the ghetto peoples whose verbal methodology, and whose ritualistic literature, was purely pragmatic, that there are vast consequences to platonic truth just as there are vast consequences to platonic (false) anything.

    As far as I know I am correct. I cant get away from it. because we are currently the victims of a century and a half of pseudoscience the immorality of which has not been achieved since the forcible conversion to christianity or the muslim conversion to scriptural perfection.

    If we look at just the one’s that I see as catastrophic; kant, freud, marx, cantor, russell/frege, keynes, mises, rothbard, then all of these fallacies were preventable by a requirement for operational definitions – proof of internal consistency: proof of existence.

    Analogy and meaning are properties of myths. Action and measurement are properties of reality.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2014-07-25 02:34:00 UTC

  • DEFINING AND MEASURING THE QUALITY OF ARTS High art contains moral judgments. Th

    DEFINING AND MEASURING THE QUALITY OF ARTS

    High art contains moral judgments. This is one of the reasons Marxists proposed ‘design’ (Rothko for example) replace ‘art’.

    For example, Monet’s Water Lillies are a technological innovation (which we understand today in scientific terms), and is due its place in history for that reason as good art.

    However, his subject matter lacks moral judgments. And therefore lacks the status of high art. Jackson Pollock again, produces design, not art. His design may quality as an innovation, but it is still design, not high art.

    Some of the driving force for design over art was the increase in the size of the population that desired to possess art, which meant that more had to be produced to fill demand, and that the price had to drop. The rest is attributable to the change in content which was a marxist initiative, and remains so. Value judgements are an impediment to universalism and socialism.

    But how can we objectively analyze art?

    LETS LOOK AT HOW TO MEASURE THE QUALITY OF ART.

    1) Craft (narrative, representation)

    2) Design (poetry, aesthetic pleasure)

    3) Innovation (novelty, innovation, )

    And finally:

    4) Content (Mythology, Human experience, ‘truth’, political, judgments)

    Let us set the center to 0, and the limit 255 on each axis.

    Then lets assign R, G, B to Craft, Design, and Innovation, then luminosity to Content.

    If we plot each work of any category of art using relative comparisons (point-testing) on that axis, and connect the four dots, we will be able to generate a sort of ‘surface area’ of the art that can be represented not only in the units covered, but also as an RGB color.

    Now the problem in this analysis is whether the content is ‘true’ (aristocratic) or ‘false’(socialist). There are multiple means of handling this such as using only the RGB/Craft,Design,Innovation axis and making axis 4 vertical “up” for aristocracy, and “down” for content.

    So, now we can create a sort of six sided diamond with white as the maximum socialist(feminist and equalitarian) or aristocratic(familialist and egalitarian) ethics.

    And yes, it is possible to do this pretty easily if you use enough samples of art.

    (I have, I know – as anyone who has used SCRUM will tell you, with enough samples relative indexing becomes very easy and accurate.)


    Source date (UTC): 2014-07-24 12:24:00 UTC

  • I understand the problem better, but I still cant do better that ultimate truth(

    I understand the problem better, but I still cant do better that ultimate truth(perfect parsimony), current knowledge of truth(imperfect parsimony), and truthful testimony.

    I have to go back to the propertarian argument and warranty.

    That eliminates the problem of correcting the now conventional use of terms.

    Not sure why I didnt firure it out earlier, but its not necessary to correct it. Its only necessary to require warranty.

    Thanks for all the CR people who helped me yet again.


    Source date (UTC): 2014-07-24 11:34:00 UTC

  • (Freaking too many people out. Maybe I should go offline while I work on the var

    (Freaking too many people out. Maybe I should go offline while I work on the various forms of truth as group evolutionary strategies. I mean, it’s so freaking obvious. But we think (erroneously) that we have a lock on it. And we’re wrong. We have a lock on platonic truth. We don’t have a lock on any form of extant truth. sigh.)


    Source date (UTC): 2014-07-24 08:36:00 UTC

  • IT’S NOT UTOPIANISM: IT’S MERELY DECEPTION, FRAUD, LYING The war of the liars ag

    IT’S NOT UTOPIANISM: IT’S MERELY DECEPTION, FRAUD, LYING

    The war of the liars against the people who tell the truth.


    Source date (UTC): 2014-07-24 04:21:00 UTC

  • A PROHIBITION ON TRUTH They are prohibiting truth. They made our ignorance somet

    A PROHIBITION ON TRUTH

    They are prohibiting truth.

    They made our ignorance something to celebrate.

    They made our passions something to surrender to.

    They made freedom of speech and virtue of opinion morally superior to speaking the truth and only the truth.

    They buried us in pseudoscience

    They have manufactured a moral prohibition on truth, and a mandatory license for lies.

    They say ‘what harm are these little lies?’.

    They declared war on the people who speak the truth. When our only cultural advantage is that we speak the truth.

    Is truth teh domain of warriors, and all else deception?

    The, truth, property, insurance, militia : aristocracy

    Devious


    Source date (UTC): 2014-07-24 04:19:00 UTC

  • WHY IS IT IRONIC? WE: “The People Who Tell The Truth” THEY: “The People Who Taug

    WHY IS IT IRONIC?

    WE: “The People Who Tell The Truth”

    THEY: “The People Who Taught Us To Lie”

    (Using very elaborate techniques I might add.)

    We are a trusting and naive people.

    The worlds best warriors are the most trusting and naive people.

    Why is that ironic somehow?

    Sigh.


    Source date (UTC): 2014-07-24 02:37:00 UTC

  • Owe Val a response (note: consistent sets vs correspondent sequences). Two categ

    Owe Val a response (note: consistent sets vs correspondent sequences). Two categories of method.


    Source date (UTC): 2014-07-23 13:27:00 UTC

  • Devious

    [T]hey made freedom of speech and virtue of opinion morally superior to speaking the truth and only the truth. Devious

  • Devious

    [T]hey made freedom of speech and virtue of opinion morally superior to speaking the truth and only the truth. Devious