Theme: Truth

  • Meaning is one thing(contract for reconstruction of experience) warranty another

    Meaning is one thing(contract for reconstruction of experience) warranty another (limiting errors from transferred meaning), negotiation, argument(persuasion), and deceit (disinformation). Most of philosophy takes place in presumption of positives. I do law. I presume negatives.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-11-08 21:10:19 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1192912254985015297

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    @Nalo_Nei @FreePeterBiarM In other words, if there is a way to transfer meaning (associations sufficient for reconstruction of experience) by informing any human faculty, we have invented it – and yes I have produced a chart of all of them: deflationary, descriptive, inflationary, and deceptive. πŸ˜‰

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    @Nalo_Nei @FreePeterBiarM In other words, if there is a way to transfer meaning (associations sufficient for reconstruction of experience) by informing any human faculty, we have invented it – and yes I have produced a chart of all of them: deflationary, descriptive, inflationary, and deceptive. πŸ˜‰

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  • So we can use the combination of realism, naturalism, and logic, empiricism, and

    So we can use the combination of realism, naturalism, and logic, empiricism, and operationalism, or we can use:
    [actions] pseudoscience->magic,
    [speech] idealism->surrealism,
    [imaginary] fiction->fantasy, and
    [emotions] supernaturalism->occult.
    One for every human faculty.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-11-08 21:05:59 UTC

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    @Nalo_Nei @FreePeterBiarM It’s not a new term. πŸ˜‰
    There is no platonic domain, any more than there is a middle earth or gandalf. πŸ˜‰
    It’s just one of the Fictionalisms (no I didn’t make that up) called Idealism, that we use to tell stories when we don’t know how to say them any more accurately. πŸ˜‰

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    @Nalo_Nei @FreePeterBiarM It’s not a new term. πŸ˜‰
    There is no platonic domain, any more than there is a middle earth or gandalf. πŸ˜‰
    It’s just one of the Fictionalisms (no I didn’t make that up) called Idealism, that we use to tell stories when we don’t know how to say them any more accurately. πŸ˜‰

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1192909544000806912

  • It’s not a new term. πŸ˜‰ There is no platonic domain, any more than there is a mi

    It’s not a new term. πŸ˜‰
    There is no platonic domain, any more than there is a middle earth or gandalf. πŸ˜‰
    It’s just one of the Fictionalisms (no I didn’t make that up) called Idealism, that we use to tell stories when we don’t know how to say them any more accurately. πŸ˜‰


    Source date (UTC): 2019-11-08 20:59:33 UTC

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    @curtdoolittle @FreePeterBiarM Math is the perfect example of Platonic Realism (a new experimental term I just coined…I think).
    Two (2)-ness only exists in the Platonic domain. While there can be myriad expressions of two-ness in material reality, two-ness itself is not directly perceivable (like light).

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  • ONLY ONE PEOPLE, AND ONLY ONE OTHER PEOPLE Only European Peoples invented Truth

    ONLY ONE PEOPLE, AND ONLY ONE OTHER PEOPLE

    Only European Peoples invented Truth before face; Truth regardless of cost to the dominance hierarchy; Rule of Law by Sovereignty, Reciprocity, Testimony and Jury; Resulting in Markets in Every aspect of Life: Continuous Adaptation – Faster Than The Rest.

    Only European Peoples have Dragged mankind kicking and screaming out of superstition, ignorance, hard labor, poverty, starvation, suffering, disease, child mortality, early death, freedom from heat and cold, and the vicissitudes of a nature hostile to life, and are the only people dragging us kicking and screaming once again to the stars, lest this earth decide once again to interrupt all life with catastrophe and death.

    Conversely, only one civilization has invented the opposite strategy: false promise of supernatural, pseudoscience, sophistry, deceit, & denial, to bait into hazard, defend by sophism and undermining, generating envy, causing recursive destruction of informational, social, & genetic capital.

    Only one civilization has been responsible for the intentional destruction of genetic, institutional informational, normative, cultural, artistic, capital, and only one responsible for 1B dead in previous centuries and 100M dead in the last, and how many ?? Billion in the this?

    Once you understand the science of undermining by lying and that it is a group strategy no different than Chinese of Insulation from Barbarians, Internal Harmony, Reason, Conformity, Hierarchy and Family; Or the Western strategy of Truth, Science,Technology, Law, and Markets.

    Then, you are, we are, able to enact laws by extending the commercial warranty of due diligence, and liability for fraud to all acts of false promise, baiting into hazard, advocation by supernatural, sophistry, pseudoscience, denial, or deceit, defended by pilpul and critique and claiming ignorance on the basis of plausible deniability given the victim’s voluntary choice.

    So, individual crimes require individual punishment, but for collective crimes of collective reward, reciprocity and restitution are only served by collective punishment.

    And it will be the entirety of mankind, in defense of ourselves, those that came before us, those that may come after us, and the vengeance of more than a billion dead, the lost civilizations, and the dark ages of ignorance and suffering that demand restitution and punishment.

    If you can name a thing. You can destroy a thing. And that thing is the Abrahamic method of genetic, cultural, and civilizational destruction, by the false promise of freedom from the laws of nature’s equilibrium, and the natural law of reciprocity that mirrors it to undermine the markets of cooperation between the genders, classes, generations, nations, races, who, if living in a host of nations, each under law, can produce commons preferable to themselves, with minimum power distance, and differences between ameliorated by trade.

    And anyone who advocates otherwise, promises otherwise, pursues otherwise, shall be prosecuted for crimes against humanity in honor of civilizations, ages, and the uncounted dead.

    All peoples can prosper equally if they reduce their underclasses so that: β€œA Power distribution of Law(truth), a Pareto distribution of Assets, a Nash equilibrium of Rewards while limiting the underclasses so that surpluses can be directed to commons and multiples therefrom.”

    This is a physical law of nature beyond which man is as incapable of treading as he is defying gravity by sheer force of will.

    Thus Endeth The Lesson.

    πŸ˜‰


    Source date (UTC): 2019-11-08 20:55:00 UTC

  • But yes, I know you speak truthfully even if you speak in platonic prose, becaus

    But yes, I know you speak truthfully even if you speak in platonic prose, because I know how to translate from platonic(idea) to operation(real) prose. in this sense, platonic prose is a poetic means of communicating meaning. And that is good enough for all but deduction from it.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-11-08 20:36:39 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1192903783489118210

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    @Nalo_Nei @FreePeterBiarM Try to convert what you’re saying into performative language in complete sentences. (just like math)
    The universe exists. We can identify patterns in the universe. We can name them. We can describe them (narrate state, and changes in state) – with and without error.

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    @curtdoolittle

    @Nalo_Nei @FreePeterBiarM Try to convert what you’re saying into performative language in complete sentences. (just like math)
    The universe exists. We can identify patterns in the universe. We can name them. We can describe them (narrate state, and changes in state) – with and without error.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1192902872637362177

  • Try to convert what you’re saying into performative language in complete sentenc

    Try to convert what you’re saying into performative language in complete sentences. (just like math)
    The universe exists. We can identify patterns in the universe. We can name them. We can describe them (narrate state, and changes in state) – with and without error.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-11-08 20:33:02 UTC

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    @curtdoolittle @FreePeterBiarM Are you confused?
    To me it’s straight forward in an elegantly beautiful way.

    Truth exists, and we perceive it w/varying degrees of accuracy or we don’t.

    We corroborate Truth when we speak it, but Truth is not, in and of itself man-made.
    In that case Truth would be subjective.

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  • In the sense you mean it, yes. Reality exists, the Possibility that we can corre

    In the sense you mean it, yes. Reality exists, the Possibility that we can correctly testify to any phenomenon in reality exists. And we need only discover the language for stating it with the minimum error possible.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-11-08 19:37:25 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1192888876488155139

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    @curtdoolittle @FreePeterBiarM So…we can aim to speak Truth, and in so doing succeed or fail in varying measure.

    Truth itself, however, remains unphased. Truth is still Truth regardless of whether we speak it or know it.

    We do not create Truth. We seek (some of us) to discover & reveal it.

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  • Gravity exists. Is=exists. True=I promise i do not err. “I promise gravity exist

    Gravity exists.
    Is=exists.
    True=I promise i do not err.
    “I promise gravity exists”
    “I agree you speak truthfully” (for whatever reasons)
    “The proposition that gravity exists is a True one”


    Source date (UTC): 2019-11-08 19:36:14 UTC

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    @Nalo_Nei

    @curtdoolittle @FreePeterBiarM I disagree.

    Gravity is still True even if we misunderstand, or misrepresent it in speech.
    And I can β€˜know’/perceive that gravity is real even if I lack the dialectic skills to explain, describe, or even consciously acknowledge that it exists.

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  • Like many things, using the word ‘true’, just like the word ‘is’, functions as a

    Like many things, using the word ‘true’, just like the word ‘is’, functions as a convenient version of ‘sorta’: a common vernacular. An approximation. But if I told you this is the reason physics and economics are ‘stuck’ you’d place different value on the clarity.

    -hugs


    Source date (UTC): 2019-11-08 19:33:56 UTC

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    @Nalo_Nei @FreePeterBiarM So just as we say the square root of two is a number ( it’s a function, and one that cannot result in a number without additionally supplying a limit for it), we say Truth is out there, when we discover patterns and state truth about them, thereby creating truthful knowledge.

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    @curtdoolittle

    @Nalo_Nei @FreePeterBiarM So just as we say the square root of two is a number ( it’s a function, and one that cannot result in a number without additionally supplying a limit for it), we say Truth is out there, when we discover patterns and state truth about them, thereby creating truthful knowledge.

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  • So just as we say the square root of two is a number ( it’s a function, and one

    So just as we say the square root of two is a number ( it’s a function, and one that cannot result in a number without additionally supplying a limit for it), we say Truth is out there, when we discover patterns and state truth about them, thereby creating truthful knowledge.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-11-08 19:32:02 UTC

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    @Nalo_Nei @FreePeterBiarM So there are patterns out there we do not know of, yes. If we can speak of those patterns we can speak truthfully of them, yes. Falsehood isn’t out there. Only in us. So is truth out there? Or are there patterns out there to speak of truthfully. ie:we make truth b/c truth=speech.

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    @curtdoolittle

    @Nalo_Nei @FreePeterBiarM So there are patterns out there we do not know of, yes. If we can speak of those patterns we can speak truthfully of them, yes. Falsehood isn’t out there. Only in us. So is truth out there? Or are there patterns out there to speak of truthfully. ie:we make truth b/c truth=speech.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1192887010756874241