Theme: Sovereignty

  • (from elsewhere) Yeah, but… You know, maybe that’s what [Cantwell] needs. Mayb

    (from elsewhere)

    Yeah, but… You know, maybe that’s what [Cantwell] needs. Maybe that’s what the Liberty movement needs.

    To grow up and join the Sovereignty movement.

    Sovereignty requires no liberty. Liberty requires permission of the sovereigns. Freedom permission of both. Ergo, liberty and ‘libertarianism’ are sandwich-board signs worn by beggars. If you want an condition of liberty, the only way to obtain it is through sovereignty, and the only way to obtain sovereignty is with violence. And the only way to obtain sufficient violence to construct a condition of sovereignty, is ally with others who equally desire sovereignty.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-18 14:15:00 UTC

  • WHAT COULD I DEBATE CHRIS ABOUT? Something meaningful? I mean, I don’t follow hi

    WHAT COULD I DEBATE CHRIS ABOUT?

    Something meaningful? I mean, I don’t follow him. He’s a populist. But I get the impression that I don’t really disagree with him about much (at the level he discourses).

    I suspect he’s still in the ‘rothbardian’ (libertine) ideology, rather than classical liberal (libertarian) ideology, and certainly not in my camp (sovereignty), and I suspect not fascism(tribal authoritarianism).

    I suspect he’s still practicing cosmopolitanism(universalism) rather than nationalism(particularism).

    I suspect he’s still a ‘NAP’-er.

    He seems reasonably red-pilled (masculinity). I mean, that’s the only clear value I can deduce from the content of his reading list.

    He seems pretty anti-state, rather than anti-discretion or pro rule of law.

    He seems pretty pro-violence (which is what I care about).

    What could I debate him about?

    What would you like me to ‘correct’ him about?

    Thanks

    Curt


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-18 13:49:00 UTC

  • CHOOSING BETWEEN FASCISM AND CLASSICAL MONARCHY (important post) I think that on

    CHOOSING BETWEEN FASCISM AND CLASSICAL MONARCHY

    (important post)

    I think that once you ‘lose hope’ in democracy and equality and return to hierarchy, you have a range of choices available. National socialism on the one end and classical monarchy on the other.

    The ‘good’ in national socialism existed in their use of nationalism, aesthetics, and the creation of rituals and festivals – the kind of ‘religion’ that replaces otherworldly mysticism with real-worldly art in all aspects of life. This was genius. But while Germany had created the next flowering of Europe (after Italy’s renaissance and England’s scientific enlightenment), and brought european civilization to it’s highest achievements therein, national socialism overextended itself like most religions do, into “purity” for its own sake.

    Moreover, National socialism was dependent upon finding a leader who can do good. Classical Monarchy is dependent upon a leader who prevents people from doing bad. It is very hard to do good other than build monuments (which is what monarchs do). It is very easy to prevent harm without doing harm, which is what monarch’s do.

    So, IMHO, it is better to have an aesthetic monarchy IN GENERAL, and call out the fascists in time of economic and political war. In other words I think it is useful to constitute both a military, a police force, a judiciary, and an aesthetic ‘priesthood’ that maintains purity.

    And let them work together to suppress evils of all kinds. In my opinion, natural law can be used to allow the policing of aesthetics. If that is the case, then culture can be policed just as information is policed. This form of policing merely limits the bad without limiting the innovative.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-18 08:21:00 UTC

  • NO ITS NOT FAUSTIAN (a) sovereignty/heroism and (b) lower impulsivity / higher s

    NO ITS NOT FAUSTIAN

    (a) sovereignty/heroism and (b) lower impulsivity / higher separation of mind and intuition/ lower susceptibility to ‘dream state'(conflation) higher tendency of ‘reality’, (c) higher incidence of neuroticism (worry, obsession, future orientation), (d) balance of verbal / spatial abilities. (e) lower clannishness.

    I know all of these are basically true but wether we possessed them all in prehistory (“Yaman”) or whether we evolved them since then, or some combination is hard to tell.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-13 15:07:00 UTC

  • NATURAL LAW OF SOVEREIGN MEN I define Natural Law as: NEGATIVA: non-provocation:

    NATURAL LAW OF SOVEREIGN MEN

    I define Natural Law as: NEGATIVA: non-provocation: non imposition of costs against property in toto: that which others have born costs to obtain an interest in without imposing costs upon that which others have born costs to obtain an interest in. POSITIVA: reward: the requirement that we limit our actions that affect the property-in-toto of others to those that cause productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary transfer, limited to productive externalities.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-12 10:39:00 UTC

  • “I’ve read enough of your text to brand you a promotor of a “new” governmental r

    —“I’ve read enough of your text to brand you a promotor of a “new” governmental rule which bridge s the gap between authoritarianism and a classic monarchy.”—

    No, it restores and extends both (a) monarchy (houses for each class), and (b) rule of natural law by (c) restoring markets and replacing majority assent with default assent and universal legal dissent.

    As a tongue in cheek bit of humor I’ve also labelled it “market fascism”, which, while a contradiction in terms, draws attention to the fact that if we grant protection to the informational commons, it’s actually impossible to legally criticize this form of government – although entirely possible to criticize actions within it.

    –“You didn’t actually create Propertarianism itself,”–

    Yes the TERM was extant but almost never used. And the concept of the ‘reduction of all rights to statements of property rights’ existed. And that is why, at the time, i also registered ‘propertarians.com’ and created a site at that address to show the sequence from stoics > locke > rothbard > hoppe > doolittle to demonstrate how long it had taken to solve the problem of a category of commensurability in social science like we had created with prices more narrowly in economics. I abandoned that project because of the effort to create that particular narrative, and because I no longer wanted to be associated with Rothbard because of his ghetto(levantine) ethics.

    I created that set of ideas I’ve called ‘Propertarianism’, and I intentionally used the term (which was derogatory). We debated quite a bit about continuing to use it once we discovered testimonialism in epistemology, and again when we Sovereignty was the cause of western civilization, but by then the brand had stuck. So I went with the advice of retaining Propertarianism.

    My insights into the Propertarian concept can be reduced (largely) to (1) demonstrated property: “Property in Toto”, and the subsequent demonstration that Moral Foundations Theory can be restated as property rights – thereby explaining our varying moral intuitions about the distribution of interests in ‘property’; and (2) that those interests function as a distribution of perceptual, cognitive, knowledge, advocacy, and labor. There are other insights but these are the two most important. (3) And that as I’d originally intended, it was possible to restate in scientific terms Hoppe’s (tragic) use of kantian justificationary rationalism, and Rothbard’s use of Jewish (immoral) law and the technique of “Pilpul”, and Mises (tragic) failure to understand his discovery of economic ‘intuitionism’/’operationalism’ and instead creating a pseudoscience – and in doing so ‘complete’ the promise of the propertarian method, thereby ‘completing’ the creation of a universal method of commensurability in social science.

    There are a few dozen of these insights that arise as a consequence, but these are the the primary ones that the rest derive from.

    Today I use the term Propertarianism to refer to the entire framework of The Laws of Nature – which is the correct descriptive name of the project, and what i will publish under.

    It includes:

    1 – Metaphysics of Action

    2 – Testimonial Truth – the completion of the scientific method.

    3 – Propertarian Ethics – the completion of ethical commensurability

    4 – the natural law of sovereignty

    5 – market government under natural law of sovereignty

    6 – group evolutionary strategy (group competition)

    7 – A restatement of psychology, sociology, politics, and group evolutionary startegy in propertarian terms.

    8 – Aesthetics (Truth, Beauty, and Commons[goodness] )

    You might note that the statistical anomaly in my writing is the word ‘commons’ and that I focus on creating commons and normative commons, and high trust normative commons in particular as the competitive strategy of western civilization.

    –IQ—

    Well I don’t make that claim right? I state (often) that demonstrated intelligence consists of at least four categories, one of which is ‘wants’, and that as far as I can tell, after 140 or so it’s more a matter of effort and time than intelligence. And that in practice, success (and wealth) is more an effort of character than of ability. And that, demonstrably, most wealth is created by the middle class (people of slightly above average intelligence) because most wealth is created by the construction and sale of small and medium businesses.

    Creating concepts is however, fairly rare. There are not too many of them in history (See both Murray and Adler). And in my experience, I’ve spent most of my life on this problem – although I worked nearly full time on it for only about ten years.

    That seems to be what all the data indicates: it takes about a decade to master a field sufficiently to provide an insight into it.

    — foe —

    Sorry man. In the end, violence and truth rule over parasitism, excuse making and gossip. You and yours have only liberty by permission. It’s our permission. It’s revokable. Why? Because you and yours have always failed. Because while you can master gossip and ridicule like women, you cannot climb the ladder to truth and violence.

    You industrialized lying. And you’re just another parasitic liar.

    And we are, within the next few decades going to use that violence and truth and law to impose violence upon those who industrialized, and continue to practice, lying.

    Man is too important a creature to leave to undomesticated animals that must lie and succor upon others to survive.

    😉

    http://selfadoration.com/cold-blooded-vengeance-exposing-curt-doolittles-and-libertarianisms-inner-thug/8159#comment-9960


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-09 07:51:00 UTC

  • “You cannot have Switzerland without Germany. You cannot have Canada without USA

    —“You cannot have Switzerland without Germany. You cannot have Canada without USA .. Respect does not keep people from conquering you. The weak benefit from a friend who is feared.”— Doug Holland


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-08 15:17:00 UTC

  • liberty is but a beggar’s pretense of sovereignty

    liberty is but a beggar’s pretense of sovereignty.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-07 21:32:00 UTC

  • MONARCHY AND RULE OF LAW Monarchy requires rule of law. It’s impossible to hold

    MONARCHY AND RULE OF LAW

    Monarchy requires rule of law.

    It’s impossible to hold an absolute monarchy.

    It’s impossible to hold a dictatorship under rule of law.

    An absolute monarchy is a contradiction in terms.

    European Monarchy is, as far as I know, the correct label for common law monarchies of our ancient past.

    Christian Monarchy is, as far as I know, the correct label for medieval monarchies, since monarchies did not exist as we know them prior to the church’s crowning of ‘legitimate’ kings of europe.

    Constitutional Monarchies are perhaps where we went wrong, since it make the judge of last resort (monarch) subservient to a legislature(politics), rather than to the rule of natural law (the church), or to the rule of common law (judges).

    Stated in these terms which emphasize the negative (judging) it is more obvious than when stated in the positive (legislation or command).

    A ruler can only judge. A market can only choose. Anyone can envison.

    By envisioning, choosing my market, and judging (limiting) by monarch we funnel ideas through a series of challenges that ensure that only those with the most merit survive.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-03 13:15:00 UTC

  • Nothing Should Be Determined Democratically (Israel)

    Peace is undesirable in the choice between a homeland at the expense of conflict, and peace at the expense of a second failure to preserve a homeland. Jews must learn to rule – including themselves. Christians must return to rule. Democracy – the abandonment of rule – is a failed experiment. We pretend that democracy is a good rather than just the cheapest method of rule with the least consequences for the rulers. So we claim democracy as an ideological good when it is instead – when combined with fiat credit – a cheaper method of rule. And worse, not all civilizations, or peoples, have reached a level of development – either political, cultural or genetic – that is sufficient for cooperation on purely economic grounds and under democratic polities. Instead, it appears, that democracy and economic cooperation are luxury goods made possible by military and technological windfalls, and nothing more. If for no other reason than self-defense, those of us with the ability to rule well – meaning with a positive evolutionary outcome for man – must rule, while those who are incapable of rule – meaning producing a negative evolutionary outcome for man – must be ruled. There is no alternative except wishful thinking. And wishful thinking is found most frequently as the pavement on the road to hell. Curt Doolittle The Propertarian Institute Kiev, Ukraine