Curt Doolittle

Theme: Religion

  • ( … more) 6) How can we constrain the abrahamic method of “false promise of fr

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    6) How can we constrain the abrahamic method of “false promise of freedom from physical, natural, and evolutionary laws, baiting into hazards which reverse the european invesntion of testimonial truth, science, technology, econmics, and medicine, to the production of christian ethics, so that the modern application of the abrahamic method in communism(a christian bias), socialism(a christian bias), neo-marxism(anti-empiricism in social science), postmodernism(anti-empiricism in social construction, relativism), and feminism (anti-adversarialism, a christian bias).

    OUR POSITION

    The P-position is that if we rule and govern, cooperate, and reason in the visible rules of the universe (the physical, natural, and evolutionary laws), that we can achieve the same goal

    The purpose of xianity was, and the purpose of christian activism today remains, the pursuit of communism in mind and body by division of those who can listen, believe, and submit in escape from the physical natural and evolutionary laws – from those who observe, analyze, and transform self man and nature by discovery, adatpation to, and application of those physical natural and evolutionary laws.

    The purpose of my work is to discover if we can cooperate physical and material means and ends if we differ on cognitive and emotional means and ends.

    If you aren’t discussing this question, then this group has no purpose other than to keep fundamentalism out of the rest of the P-discourse.

    Source date (UTC): 2020-08-24 23:57:09 UTC

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    The purpose of the Propertarianism and Christians group is to seek compromise and understanding given that some of us can and need to believe and some of us don’t need, and cannot believe. I wanted this group so that I could talk to christians on their terms about this subject. We argue that: 1) What constitutes ‘christianity’ has spawned hundreds of cults and nearly every individual believes he and his or her sect has some monpoly on what is the correct christianity. 2) That this interpretability is a strength and a weakness – it means there is no law of christianity as there is a law of reciprocity, but conversely it means that groups can form on whatever they imagine the bible conveys. This appeals to cognitive biases and suggestion. And that: 1) christian ethics can be reduced to five statements. 2) christianity provides tolerance for the physical natural and evolutionary laws, and can be encoded in law. 3) christian behavior is the optimum solution to the prisonner’s dilemma of social trust – 4) and is the only substantive via-positiva advancement on the natural law of reciprocity. And that: 1) We can write those five statements into natural law for use in our judicial and political system regardless of whether one has a faith, wisdom, or empirical mind to justify those laws and aderhere to them. We ask: 1) Whether the source of causality as auto-deism (mechanical), deism(originary), or theological (activist) god; And; 2) (scripture) Whether the various wisdom literatures: anglo-empirical, germanic contenental, greco-roman, confucian-taoist, buddhist, hindu, and abrahamic (judaism ,christianity, and islam), are just that: wisdom literatures written in the language available to their local people during the ages of transformation – or whether the abrahamic, and in particular, the christian are (a) superior in experence and outcome, (b) and the work of men or supernatural. And; 3) Whether Jesus was an activist (like Alinsky), a philosopher (like Marx), a prophet that supernatural forces spoke through (like Mohammed), or a supernatural creature as xians(Paulians) claim. And; 4) Whether the globalist catholic church which seeks to rule in competition with or defeat of the state; the nationaist orthodox church which seeks to assist and cooperate with the state; or the institutional protestant which seeks to augment the state; or the evangelical protestant which seeks to avoid modernity entirely, are the superior models, is ‘christianity’ – since they all disagree. Or; 5) Whether, we can write the common rules of the christian ethical system into secular empirical law, and prohibit all COMPETING ethical systems – and yes, religions – from our polity. This would allow Fundamentalists, Traditionalists(Deists), Rationalists(Habituals), and empiricicists (scientists like myself) to cooperate in resisting our many enemies, pursuing our christian behavior regardless of the ‘method’ by which we undersetand it. And; (more…)

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  • The purpose of the Propertarianism and Christians group is to seek compromise an

    The purpose of the Propertarianism and Christians group is to seek compromise and understanding given that some of us can and need to believe and some of us don’t need, and cannot believe.

    I wanted this group so that I could talk to christians on their terms about this subject.

    We argue that:
    1) What constitutes ‘christianity’ has spawned hundreds of cults and nearly every individual believes he and his or her sect has some monpoly on what is the correct christianity.
    2) That this interpretability is a strength and a weakness – it means there is no law of christianity as there is a law of reciprocity, but conversely it means that groups can form on whatever they imagine the bible conveys. This appeals to cognitive biases and suggestion.

    And that:
    1) christian ethics can be reduced to five statements.
    2) christianity provides tolerance for the physical natural and evolutionary laws, and can be encoded in law.
    3) christian behavior is the optimum solution to the prisonner’s dilemma of social trust –
    4) and is the only substantive via-positiva advancement on the natural law of reciprocity.

    And that:
    1) We can write those five statements into natural law for use in our judicial and political system regardless of whether one has a faith, wisdom, or empirical mind to justify those laws and aderhere to them.

    We ask:
    1) Whether the source of causality as auto-deism (mechanical), deism(originary), or theological (activist) god;

    And;
    2) (scripture) Whether the various wisdom literatures: anglo-empirical, germanic contenental, greco-roman, confucian-taoist, buddhist, hindu, and abrahamic (judaism ,christianity, and islam), are just that: wisdom literatures written in the language available to their local people during the ages of transformation – or whether the abrahamic, and in particular, the christian are (a) superior in experence and outcome, (b) and the work of men or supernatural.

    And;
    3) Whether Jesus was an activist (like Alinsky), a philosopher (like Marx), a prophet that supernatural forces spoke through (like Mohammed), or a supernatural creature as xians(Paulians) claim.

    And;
    4) Whether the globalist catholic church which seeks to rule in competition with or defeat of the state; the nationaist orthodox church which seeks to assist and cooperate with the state; or the institutional protestant which seeks to augment the state; or the evangelical protestant which seeks to avoid modernity entirely, are the superior models, is ‘christianity’ – since they all disagree.

    Or;
    5) Whether, we can write the common rules of the christian ethical system into secular empirical law, and prohibit all COMPETING ethical systems – and yes, religions – from our polity. This would allow Fundamentalists, Traditionalists(Deists), Rationalists(Habituals), and empiricicists (scientists like myself) to cooperate in resisting our many enemies, pursuing our christian behavior regardless of the ‘method’ by which we undersetand it.
    And;

    (more…)

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  • CHRISTIANITY OR COMMUNISM? SAME METHOD. We can make the alternate argument – tha

    CHRISTIANITY OR COMMUNISM? SAME METHOD.

    We can make the alternate argument – that christianity was imposed just as authoritarian communism was imposed – and for the same reasons (power).

    And that the west survived christianity (communism version one) just as it has nearly survived marxism-neo-marxism-postmodernism-feminism (communism version two).

    It’s rather obvious that the christian destruction of the ancient world mirrors the marxist-postmodernist destruction of the modern world – using the very same techniques and strategies, including destruction of churches (temples), taking over the university (new religion), taking over the government administration, and taking over production of proppaganda, by appealing to the underclass.

    False promises of xianity in the ancient world by supernatural means and of marxism-socialism-postmodernism-feminism of the modern world by pseudoscientific and sophomoric means.

    When the entire purpose was overthrowing realism, markets, and aristocracy, by a non-productive class from within.

    It’s rather obvious that the restoration of aristotle, and the early abandonment of the church, and the increasing restoration of the aristocracy dragged the west out of the dark ages, with christianity once again being a drag on reform just as christians are a drag on my reforms and restorations of aristotelianism and continued expurgation of semitic thought and behavior from the west.

    Source date (UTC): 2020-08-24 23:54:36 UTC

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  • AUTHORITARIAN SUPERNATUAL, DEIST TRADITIONAL, AND SECULAR RATIONAL CHRISTIANITY

    AUTHORITARIAN SUPERNATUAL, DEIST TRADITIONAL, AND SECULAR RATIONAL CHRISTIANITY ARE COMPATIBLE UNDER P-LAW

    That religion (even if not supernatural) of some sort is necessary, That christianity produces good behavior, and that Christian ethics are compatible with and an extension of natural law (reciprocity), and that christian forbearance is what makes christan polities successful in transformation into middle class majorities and market civilization capable of democratic process, is all truthful and true.

    The great question is whether fundamentalist christians will inhibit the next reformation of christian religion, into one that is scientific, rational, and legal – or whether christians will hold onto their requirement for magical thinking.

    My view is that if we express our law in scientific, rational, and operatinal terms, that people will continue to divide into fundamentalist-supernatural (emotional), deist-rational (rational), and legal-scientific (empirical) christians regardless of whether they have the feminine (emotional), neutral (rational) or masculine (legal-scientific) minds.

    We know these minds are genetically determined. We know that we seek information structured for our brains to experience.

    This (law) is the only solution – a compromise – I know of, that satisfies the wants of everyone, which comes at the cost of annoying empiricists and supernaturalists alike because they want monopolies that conform to their method of thought.

    But the european way of life has always been trifunctinoalism mediated by law, and my solution creates again, the european tradition, of trifunctionalism mediated by law.

    Source date (UTC): 2020-08-24 23:51:37 UTC

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  • THE MUSLIM MONOPOLY ON EASTERN TRADE Muslim traders—mainly descendants of Arab s

    THE MUSLIM MONOPOLY ON EASTERN TRADE
    Muslim traders—mainly descendants of Arab sailors from Yemen and Oman—dominated maritime routes throughout the Indian Ocean, tapping source regions in the Far East and shipping for trading emporiums in India, mainly Kozhikode, westward to Ormus in the Persian Gulf and Jeddah in the Red Sea. From there, overland routes led to the Mediterranean coasts. Venetian merchants distributed the goods through Europe until the rise of the Ottoman Empire, that eventually led to the fall of Constantinople in 1453, barring Europeans from important combined-land-sea routes.

    THE MUSLIM (OTTOMAN) BLOCKADE
    Forced to reduce their activities in the Black Sea, and at war with Venice, the Genoese had turned to North African trade of wheat, olive oil (valued also as an energy source), and a search for silver and gold. Europeans had a constant deficit in silver and gold, as coin only went one way: out, spent on eastern trade that was now cut off. Several European mines were exhausted the lack of bullion leading to the development of a complex banking system to manage the risks in trade (the very first state bank, Banco di San Giorgio, was founded in 1407 at Genoa). Sailing also into the ports of Bruges (Flanders) and England, Genoese communities were then established in Portugal, who profited from their enterprise and financial expertise.

    THE NORTH
    The Norman Conquest of England in the late 11th century allowed for peaceful trade on the North Sea. The Hanseatic League, a confederation of merchant guilds and their towns in northern Germany along the North Sea and Baltic Sea, was instrumental in commercial development of the region/ In the 12th century the region of Flanders, Hainault and Braband produced the finest quality textiles in northern Europe, which encouraged merchants from Genoa and Venice to sail there directly.[

    THE ATLANTIC AND PACIFIC
    The Age of Discovery, or the Age of Exploration (approximately from the beginning of the 15th century until the middle of the 17th century), is an informal and loosely defined term for the period in European history in which extensive overseas exploration emerged as a powerful factor in European culture, most notably the discovery of the Americas, and during which time was the beginning of what is known today as globalization. It also marks the rise of the widespread adoption of colonialism and mercantilism as national policies in Europe. Many lands previously unknown to Europeans were discovered by them during this period, though most were already inhabited.

    Source date (UTC): 2020-08-24 22:38:55 UTC

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    (MORE … ) Although Plato had been Aristotle’s teacher, most of Plato’s writings were not translated into Latin until over 200 years after the Recovery of Aristotle.[2] In the Middle Ages, the only book of Plato in general circulation was the first part of the dialogue Timaeus (to 53c), as a translation, with commentary, by Calcidius (or Chalcidius).[2] The Timaeus describes Plato’s cosmology, as his account of the origin of the universe. In the 12th century Henry Aristippus of Catania made translations of the Meno and the Phaedo, but those books were in limited circulation.[2] Some other translations of Plato’s books disappeared during the Middle Ages. Finally, about 200 years after the rediscovery of Aristotle, in the wider Renaissance Marsilio Ficino (1433–99) translated and commented on Plato’s complete works.[2] RISE OF (RESTORATION OF) TRADE Between the 12th and 15th centuries the European economy was transformed by the interconnecting of river and sea trade routes, causing Europe to become one of the world’s most prosperous trading networks. THE MEDITERRANEAN Before the 12th century, the main obstacle to trade east of the Strait of Gibraltar was lack of commercial incentives rather than inadequate ship design. Economic growth of Spain followed the reconquest of Al-Andalus and the siege of Lisbon (1147 AD). The decline of Fatimid Caliphate naval strength that started before the First Crusade helped the maritime Italian states, mainly Venice, Genoa and Pisa, dominate trade in the eastern Mediterranean, with Italian merchants becoming wealthy and politically influential. Further changing the mercantile situation in the Eastern Mediterranean was the waning of Byzantine naval power following the death of Emperor Manuel I Komnenos in 1180, whose dynasty had made several notable treaties and concessions with Italian traders, permitting the use of Byzantine Christian ports. From the 8th century until the 15th century, the Republic of Venice and neighbouring maritime republics held the monopoly of European trade with the Middle East. The silk and spice trade, involving spices, incense, herbs, drugs and opium, made these Mediterranean city-states phenomenally rich. Spices were among the most expensive and demanded products of the Middle Ages, as they were used in medieval medicine,[41] religious rituals, cosmetics, perfumery, as well as food additives and preservatives.They were all imported from Asia and Africa.

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  • (MORE … ) Although Plato had been Aristotle’s teacher, most of Plato’s writing

    (MORE … )

    Although Plato had been Aristotle’s teacher, most of Plato’s writings were not translated into Latin until over 200 years after the Recovery of Aristotle.[2] In the Middle Ages, the only book of Plato in general circulation was the first part of the dialogue Timaeus (to 53c), as a translation, with commentary, by Calcidius (or Chalcidius).[2] The Timaeus describes Plato’s cosmology, as his account of the origin of the universe. In the 12th century Henry Aristippus of Catania made translations of the Meno and the Phaedo, but those books were in limited circulation.[2] Some other translations of Plato’s books disappeared during the Middle Ages. Finally, about 200 years after the rediscovery of Aristotle, in the wider Renaissance Marsilio Ficino (1433–99) translated and commented on Plato’s complete works.[2]

    RISE OF (RESTORATION OF) TRADE
    Between the 12th and 15th centuries the European economy was transformed by the interconnecting of river and sea trade routes, causing Europe to become one of the world’s most prosperous trading networks.

    THE MEDITERRANEAN
    Before the 12th century, the main obstacle to trade east of the Strait of Gibraltar was lack of commercial incentives rather than inadequate ship design.

    Economic growth of Spain followed the reconquest of Al-Andalus and the siege of Lisbon (1147 AD).

    The decline of Fatimid Caliphate naval strength that started before the First Crusade helped the maritime Italian states, mainly Venice, Genoa and Pisa, dominate trade in the eastern Mediterranean, with Italian merchants becoming wealthy and politically influential. Further changing the mercantile situation in the Eastern Mediterranean was the waning of Byzantine naval power following the death of Emperor Manuel I Komnenos in 1180, whose dynasty had made several notable treaties and concessions with Italian traders, permitting the use of Byzantine Christian ports.

    From the 8th century until the 15th century, the Republic of Venice and neighbouring maritime republics held the monopoly of European trade with the Middle East. The silk and spice trade, involving spices, incense, herbs, drugs and opium, made these Mediterranean city-states phenomenally rich. Spices were among the most expensive and demanded products of the Middle Ages, as they were used in medieval medicine,[41] religious rituals, cosmetics, perfumery, as well as food additives and preservatives.They were all imported from Asia and Africa.

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    ( MORE: … ) THE RESTORATION OF ARISTOTLE The “Recovery of Aristotle” (or Rediscovery) refers to the copying or re-translating of most of Aristotle’s books (of ancient Greece), from Greek or Arabic text into Latin, during the Middle Ages, of the Latin West. The Recovery of Aristotle spanned about 100 years, from the middle 12th century into the 13th century, and copied or translated over 42 books (see: Corpus Aristotelicum), The recovery of Aristotle’s texts is considered a major period in medieval philosophy, leading to Aristotelianism. Because some of Aristotle’s newly translated views discounted the notions of a personal God, immortal soul, or creation, various leaders of the Catholic Church were inclined to censor those views for decades, such as lists of forbidden books in the Condemnations of 1210–1277 at the University of Paris. In the 4th century, the Roman grammarian Marius Victorinus translated two of Aristotle’s books, about logic, into Latin: the Categories and On Interpretation (De Interpretatione).[2] A little over a century later, most of Aristotle’s logical works, except perhaps for the Posterior Analytics, had been translated by Boethius, c. 510–512[2] (see: Corpus Aristotelicum). However, only Boethius’s translations of the Categories and On Interpretation had entered into general circulation before the 12th century. All in all, only a few major works of Aristotle were never translated into Arabic.[4] Of these, the fate of Politics in particular remains uncertain.[5] The rest of Aristotle’s books were eventually translated into Latin, but over 600 years later, from about the middle of the 12th century. First, the rest of the logical works were finished,[1] by using the translations of Boethius as the basis.[6] Then came the Physics, followed by the Metaphysics (12th century), and Averroes’ Commentary on Aristotle’s Metaphysics (13th century),[3] so that all works were translated by the mid-13th century.[2] A text like On the Soul, for instance, was unavailable in Latin in Christian Europe before the middle of the twelfth century.[7] The first Latin translation is due to James of Venice (12th century), and has always been considered as the translatio vetus (ancient translation).[8] The second Latin translation (translatio nova, new translation) was made from the Arabic translation of the text around 1230, and it was accompanied by Averroes’s commentary; the translator is generally thought to be Michael Scot. James’s translatio vetus was then revised by William of Moerbeke in 1266–7, and became known as the “recensio nova” (new recension), which was the most widely read version.[9] On the Soul ended up becoming a component of the core curriculum of philosophical study in most medieval universities, giving birth to a very rich tradition of commentaries, especially c. 1260–1360.[10] (MORE … )

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  • ( MORE: … ) THE RESTORATION OF ARISTOTLE The “Recovery of Aristotle” (or Redis

    ( MORE: … )

    THE RESTORATION OF ARISTOTLE
    The “Recovery of Aristotle” (or Rediscovery) refers to the copying or re-translating of most of Aristotle’s books (of ancient Greece), from Greek or Arabic text into Latin, during the Middle Ages, of the Latin West. The Recovery of Aristotle spanned about 100 years, from the middle 12th century into the 13th century, and copied or translated over 42 books (see: Corpus Aristotelicum), The recovery of Aristotle’s texts is considered a major period in medieval philosophy, leading to Aristotelianism. Because some of Aristotle’s newly translated views discounted the notions of a personal God, immortal soul, or creation, various leaders of the Catholic Church were inclined to censor those views for decades, such as lists of forbidden books in the Condemnations of 1210–1277 at the University of Paris.

    In the 4th century, the Roman grammarian Marius Victorinus translated two of Aristotle’s books, about logic, into Latin: the Categories and On Interpretation (De Interpretatione).[2] A little over a century later, most of Aristotle’s logical works, except perhaps for the Posterior Analytics, had been translated by Boethius, c. 510–512[2] (see: Corpus Aristotelicum). However, only Boethius’s translations of the Categories and On Interpretation had entered into general circulation before the 12th century. All in all, only a few major works of Aristotle were never translated into Arabic.[4] Of these, the fate of Politics in particular remains uncertain.[5]

    The rest of Aristotle’s books were eventually translated into Latin, but over 600 years later, from about the middle of the 12th century. First, the rest of the logical works were finished,[1] by using the translations of Boethius as the basis.[6] Then came the Physics, followed by the Metaphysics (12th century), and Averroes’ Commentary on Aristotle’s Metaphysics (13th century),[3] so that all works were translated by the mid-13th century.[2]
    A text like On the Soul, for instance, was unavailable in Latin in Christian Europe before the middle of the twelfth century.[7] The first Latin translation is due to James of Venice (12th century), and has always been considered as the translatio vetus (ancient translation).[8] The second Latin translation (translatio nova, new translation) was made from the Arabic translation of the text around 1230, and it was accompanied by Averroes’s commentary; the translator is generally thought to be Michael Scot. James’s translatio vetus was then revised by William of Moerbeke in 1266–7, and became known as the “recensio nova” (new recension), which was the most widely read version.[9] On the Soul ended up becoming a component of the core curriculum of philosophical study in most medieval universities, giving birth to a very rich tradition of commentaries, especially c. 1260–1360.[10]

    (MORE … )

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    THE CURRENT COUNTER-REVOLUTION AGAINST EUROPEAN CIVILIZATION IS A REVOLT AGAINST THE PHYSICAL, NATURAL, AND EVOLUTIONARY LAWS. 1) The enlightenment in every country and culture was a counter-revolution against anglo empiricism – other peoples simply couldn’t function as did the English, any more than others could function as did the Greek and Roman. 2) We are currently going through the Jewish counter-enlightenment against science. The difference is that while the Jewish and Chinese and Russian, and Indian revolutions all occurred at the same time, the Jewish revolution is within and we are paying the cost of it due to their excellence at verbal exposition. 3) We frame history as the enlightenment and the industrial revolution, but that’s false. We had the Aristotelian restoration in 1200, the printing press and literacy 1450, Constantinople was defeated in 1402, but not occupied until 1453 so the 1453 date describes the last vestige not a dramatic turn. Instead, there is a rapid restoration of Europe from the pure of Islam from Spain, the restoration of Aristotle, restoration of trade, restoration of literacy, to the age of sail, the agrarian revolution, the financial and commercial (merchantile) revolution, the expansion of empirical rule of law, the scientific revolution, culminating in the industrial revolution, the technological revolution, the biological revolution. What I find terrifying is that if Athens and Sparta had not gone to war with one another as Germany and England went to war with one another, that we very likely would have had the industrial revolution by the 3d century AD. And never had a Semitic dark age. (MORE…)

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  • Religion(conformity-bottom), State(bureaucracy-top), or Law (markets-middle). Re

    Religion(conformity-bottom), State(bureaucracy-top), or Law (markets-middle). Religion in flood rivers (stagnant), State in river valleys (range). Law on horse/cart, forest/plain, and seas (distance-speed).

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  • Religion(conformity-bottom), State(bureaucracy-top), or Law (markets-middle). Re

    Religion(conformity-bottom), State(bureaucracy-top), or Law (markets-middle). Religion in flood rivers (stagnant), State in river valleys (range). Law on horse/cart, forest/plain, and seas (distance-speed).

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    @TruthQuest11 While some civilizations failed the transformation to paternalism, all others failed the transformation to the law (markets). Whatever institution you develop first anchors you like any other evolutionary development.

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  • “Science” Itself Is A Testable Claim in P-Law – And We Can Use it To End The Fal

    “Science” Itself Is A Testable Claim in P-Law – And We Can Use it To End The False Religion https://t.co/dlTPfTCodn