Theme: Deception

  • WON’T ABRAHAMISTS JUST CHANGE STRATEGY AGAIN? —“Just curious..I’m sure you’ve

    WON’T ABRAHAMISTS JUST CHANGE STRATEGY AGAIN?

    —“Just curious..I’m sure you’ve worked this out already. But….So, how can we be so sure that Abrahamism won’t change its strategy again, adapt, and learn how to fight back through parasitism once again after we’ve implemented a new way through your philosophy for all time?”— Adam Walker

    Very good question.

    There is a basic logic of all communication that is reducible to a set of ‘measurements’ that allows us to construct a language (terms) and grammar that make it very difficult to state falsehoods. (this is primarily what Acquisitionism, Propertarianism, and Testimonialism provide)

    And given that we understand this grammar, we can also show how suggestion can be created by a series of related statements through unstated but intermediary consequences (suggestive deductions).

    It is very hard to construct lies via that intermediary means of suggestion. I suspect people will try to invent some method, but I think it’s going to be as easy to defeat as religious arguments are today.

    There is a limit to human cognitive ability which is why game theory is of such limited value beyond the second or third order. Just as there is a limit to the number of chess moves a human seems to be able to rationally consider in advance of play.

    So to translate that, it means it is extremely difficult to construct a lie that ordinary people can be fooled by if we make it difficult to do so beyond the third order.

    I hope that is enough to make sense (knowing you I suspect it is.)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-13 19:18:00 UTC

  • A SHORT CRITICISM ON METHOD – WHY? You’ve made the case that the Postmodernists

    A SHORT CRITICISM ON METHOD – WHY?

    You’ve made the case that the Postmodernists (we’ll avoid the Marxists for now) not only practice falsehood, but intentionally deny truth. And do so to circumvent discourse (Correct).

    Presumably because they cannot win an honest, truthful, true, and moral (test of reciprocity) argument. You’ve made the case less directly that Postmodernists are not engaging in reciprocity. (Correct) But not necessarily that they are doing so for the purpose of parasitism, or theft, rather than engaging in voluntary exchanges. (I believe you position this as ‘wrong’ or ‘immoral’ but not ‘theft’ or ‘predation’.) Although I do think you at least imply that the

    You’ve made the case that Truth is has been the competitive advantage of the West. (Correct) I am not sure if you have made the point that this reduces transaction costs, and therfore reduces opportunity costs, and therefore increases experimental velocity in a division of perception, valuation, labor, and advocacy.

    You’ve demonstrated that you rely heavily on the literary model of Jung. (Understandable – but questionable.) (Why choose wisdom literature instead of scientific, economic, and historical literature? Isn’t the difference one of precision?)

    You’ve made the case that you have worked for many years to understand the myth and literature of civilizations – and that is was hard work. ( Understandable – but curious why one would choose ‘wisdom literature’ for one’s research? )

    You’ve demonstrated that you’ve kept current with the research in cognitive science and (recently operationalized) experimental psychology. (Obvious, understandable, and necessary)

    You’ve demonstrated that you can identify correspondences between the research and the survival of the content of these myths over many generations: Monomyth, Archetypes, and then less specifically virtues.

    You’ve made the case that one must extract from this (vast) literature, that which allows you to functionally (demonstrably) succeed, and NOT what prevents you from functionally (demonstrably) succeeding.

    I am not sure if you’ve distinguished between the western use of DEFLATIONARY TRUTH, common law, philosophy, and science that preserves competition between institutions and disciplines, and the Fertile Crescent use of CONFLATIONARY WISDOM using Supernaturalism to produce a monopoly that doesn’t preserve competition between institutions and disciplines.

    I am pretty certain that you haven’t distinguished between the decidability of deflated truths and conflated wisdom. Or the difference between low context deflationary truth, and high context wisdom literature. Or the costs of producing each. Or the difference of rule by via-negativa (common law) versus via-positiva (commanded law), and the consequences it produced.

    Because high context low precision monopoly wisdom literature empirically produces very different rates of innovation and adaptation compared to the use of low context, high precision, competitive literature (or the difference in consequences between heroic and scientific (western pagan), and submissive and religious (persian/abrahamic), and familial and ‘rational’ (Sinic/Japanese) forms of literature.

    You’ve tried to maintain the difficult position of conflating the true (decidable), good(commons), preferential (personal) and useful (possible) in the fertile crescent tradition, as a method of argument (decidability) rather than as a method of advice (wisdom). (‘darwinian arguments’).

    And I don’t think you’ve touched on the use of conflationary fictionalisms as methods of deception:

    1) Pseudo-mythology: scriptural monotheism that conflates law, wisdom, and truth. False promise of life after death. Promise of life after death.

    2) Pseudo-science: the construction of cosmopolitan pseudosciences (Boaz, Marx, Freud, Cantor, Mises), Promise of paradise.

    3) Pseudo-rationalism: the construction of modern idealism (platonism, the the frankfurt school, the postmodernists) – creating ‘reality by chanting’ (social construction) Promise of power.

    And perhaps most importantly you don’t illustrate, that I know of, that the west lost to conflationary wisdom literature (christianity) in the ancient world, including the closure of the institutions of ‘deflationary literature’ (the stoic schools), and was resurrected by the restoration of truthful literature in the enlightenment, and that conflationary literature is the means by which the postmodernists have adopted the work of the marxists.

    And this all leads me to a set of questions:

    How does one know what to select without knowing what to select already? Or worse, how does one know what NOT to select? From the herd of literary preachers of wisdom literature, how does one decide between them? How does one choose that which I prefer, that which is good, and that which is true whether I prefer it, whether we think it is good or not, because we can only decide between the useful, the preferable, and the good, by what is true (decidable)?

    What is the cost of teaching wisdom (conflationary) literature versus truthful (deflationary and decidable)literature? What are the consequences of teaching wisdom literature instead of truthful? And most importantly, what opportunities do we perpetuate and create by teaching wisdom literature instead of truthful literature?

    How is fictionalism not only a terrible thing to teach, a terrible method of transferring meaning, but it is the means by which we have been defeated in the ancient world, and nearly defeated in the present?

    How is fictionalism only not an answer, but demonstrably the reason for the failure of the west to complete the enlightenment by its extension to the economic, legal, social, and political disciplines?

    Hasn’t psychology largely rescued itself from fictionalism and justifiable criticism as a pseudoscience precisely by abandoning fictionalism and adopting the ‘operationalism’ (in psychology, ‘operationism’, and mathematics ‘intuitionism’)?

    How can one deflate the Fertile Crescent fictionalisms (‘lies’) and still convey them without at the same time merely perpetuating the crime?

    Why is there not enough non-false, non fictionalist, non omnipotent and omniscient mythos, history of heroes, saints, scientists?

    Why can’t we teach people meaning through the lenses of hyperbole of myth, the hyperbole of heroes, the hyperbole of history, the empirical evidence of our history, our truthful speech?

    If conflationary literature is the vehicle by which we have been lied to and the vehicle for deceit, do we not want to teach people how do identify the differences, and is there any value in the conflationary that cannot be obtained from the deflationary?

    I know that in the spectrum of methods by which we can convey meaning that the dream state is the most subjective, the rational less so, the calculative much less so. And I understand that creativity requires that we enable free association by the construction of habits that allow us to easily enter the waking dream state most creative people call ‘the zone’.

    But what evidence is that we need to do so by the very means of exploiting it: suggestion. Deceit by suggestion. Deceit by loading, framing, overloading such that the suggestion is created by statement or by inference or by inference from absence?

    What is the difference between the transfer of meaning, the transfer of truth, and the transfer of deception?

    In other words, Why do we need to teach people to lie?

    —NOTES—

    DIMENSIONS OF REALITY: THE DUE DILIGENCE NECESSARY FOR WARRANTY OF TESTIMONY (TRUTH CLAIM)

    1) categorical consistency (identity)

    2) internal consistency (logical)

    3) external consistency (empirical)

    4) existential consistency (operational language and grammar)

    5) rational consistency (rational choice of the actor)

    6) moral consistency (reciprocity – at least intertemporal)

    7) scope consistency (full accounting and limits [no cherry picking, no unlimited theories])

    8) cognitive consistency (test by jury: theory)

    9) survival consistency (test by market: law)

    10) exhaustive consistency (Parsimony / tautology)

    RULE OF INCOMPLETENESS

    1) “No truth proposition can be tested without appeal to the subsequent dimension”.

    FROM LOW PRECISION HIGH CONTEXT TO HIGH PRECISION LOW CONTEXT.

    5) History.

    4) Wisdom: Greek/Roman/Germanic/Slavic Paganism (archetypes) (categories and measures)

    3) Morals: Roman Stoicism (virtues) (via positiva) (subcategories and measures)

    2) Ethics: Roman Law (limits) (via negativa) (further subcategories and measures) (Natural Law of Reciprocity)

    1) Psychology: Acquisitions or stoic ‘pursuits’ rather than ‘psychology’ (all moral intuitions and all emotions can be expressed as reactions to change in state of acquisitions).

    0) Existence: The Laws of Nature (science) further subcategories and measures)

    THE HIERARCHY OF MEASUREMENTS :

    7) THE MONOMYTH – Transcendence (Transformation)

    6) THE ARCHETYPES – Characters (Categories)

    5) THE VIRTUES – Comparison Operators (Values)

    4) THE ORDERS – Axioms (Relations: sets of conditions)

    3) THE NARRATIVES – Operations (Methods of change in state)

    2) THE DISCIPLINES – Mindfulness/Stoicism ( Noise Reduction)

    1) THE SCIENCES – Measurement (reduction of ignorance, error, bias, deception reduction)

    0) THE TRUTH – Parsimony (Most Parsimonious Operational Name of a Recipe of Transformation.)

    Assertions:

    There exists only one objective – transcendence – ‘Agency’.

    There exists only one narrative – personal transcendence

    There exist only a few sub-narratives – methods of transcendence (the N-number of plots)

    There exist only so many non-false virtues – variables of transcendence (stoic virtues?)

    There exist only so many portfolios of virtues – transcendent characters. (Archetypes)

    There exist only so many methods of non-false noise reduction – transcendent mind. ( physical rituals, stoic disciplines, discursive prayer, recitative prayer, buddhist contemplation – and some combination)

    There exist only so many methods of non-false elimination of falsehoods – reason.

    There exists only so many sets of primary operations – transcendent truths.

    Via-Positiva:

    A myth can employ animism and anthropomorphism in an act of transcendence.

    A myth can employ hyperbole (super-normalism) in an act of transcendence.

    A myth can employ any technique to create an immoral condition against which one employs virtues to transcend.

    A myth can employ virtues in an act of transcendence.

    Via Negativa:

    A myth cannot contradict the virtue of transcendence.

    A myth cannot contradict of a virtue of transcendence in an act of transcendence.

    A myth cannot employ a falsehood in an act of transcendence

    A myth cannot employ luck or miracles in an act of transcendence.

    A myth cannot employ fictionalism (idealism, supernaturalism, pseudoscience/pseudo-rationalism) in an act of transcendence.

    If a myth can survive these tests then it is true, and good.

    If a myth cannot survives these tests then it is false, and evil.

    SUMMARY

    I can find no reason to perpetuate the use of fictionalism in pedagogy or even in public speech.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Philosophy of Aristocracy

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-13 11:59:00 UTC

  • You don’t identify a conspiracy theory by its likelihood, but by the idiots who

    You don’t identify a conspiracy theory by its likelihood, but by the idiots who talk about it, their means of defending it, and their tendency to talk about nothing else.

    h/t: Keith Hamburger


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-12 17:39:00 UTC

  • CONSPIRACY THEORIES omg. I am a specialist in the exposition of pseudoscience. Y

    CONSPIRACY THEORIES

    omg. I am a specialist in the exposition of pseudoscience. You only need to know the form of the argument. You do not even need to know that much about the technology in question.

    Here is another bit of science: affinity for conspiracy theories results from the combination of schizotypal behavior, and dunning kruger effects.

    Hell, I can identify a f–king schizotypal dunning kruger-ite by the vocabulary and grammar he uses – even before he makes an argument….

    In other words, stupid and crazy people flock to stupid and crazy shit.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-11 19:21:00 UTC

  • Eli Harman: —“What’s the basis for prosecuting the purveyors of perverse and p

    Eli Harman:

    —“What’s the basis for prosecuting the purveyors of perverse and pernicious entertainment fiction, such as that which has proliferated lately? They use it for the purposes of ideological warfare, so there must be one…”—

    I don’t think we get into true/false with fiction with any more difficulty than we get into true/false with biographies, and fiction as false history. The court is pretty good at this process.

    So:

    1 – We have the easy problem of whether it’s stated as fiction or not.

    2 – We have the the easy problem of whether someone’s making an argument or not.

    3 – We have the medium problem that someone is engaged in fraudulent representation of the narrative or not.

    4 – And we have the hard problem that someone is promoting immorality or not (indirect ir-reciprocity).

    5 – And we have the easy problem that someone is promoting crime or not (direct ir-reciprocity).

    6 – And we have the very easy problem of someone SPEAKING OR TEACHING literature as science or truth.

    I am not sure this is all that difficult.

    We do most of it today. The only difference is that we don’t punish advocacy of parasitism and the teaching of it.

    I mean, if you write a novel where a murderer, or a terrorist or communist is a hero I think we might get there but I think that is very hard to take seriously. That’s the only question.

    I think the issue is one of authority:

    Pretense of truth.

    Academy, church, or state.

    Eli Harman:

    —“What about if you’re using fiction to teach lies, like equality. It could be that an exceptional female or minority character is just an extreme outlier. But when the DISTRIBUTION of female and minority characters is systematically shifted toward “extreme outlier” territory across ALL popular fiction, how do you prosecute any one content creator for lying?”—

    I think that the only reason this is even a question is because we haven’t had our revolution yet and put the law into place, and I”m very certain that the world will change radically because it will be economically too dangerous to tread those waters.

    I think that just as there are things you are careful about doing today – promoting terrorism and thievery in the classroom. And I think that there are things that we don’t do in the classroom – making arguments to supernaturalism. And I think it will be just as uncommon to make pseudo-rational, pseudo-moral, pseudoscientific, arguments in the future as it will be to make supernatural arguments in school and university today


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-11 18:30:00 UTC

  • “There are no such thing as races, subraces…99% of anthropologists agree…”–

    —“There are no such thing as races, subraces…99% of anthropologists agree…”—

    Appeal to majority fallacy. Appeal to authority fallacy. Appeal to self reporting fallacy. Appeal to statistics fallacy. (Do I need to list more of them?)

    1) is it possible to classify people into categories of major races, minor races, subraces, tribes, clans, and families. (yes evidently so. it’s been done on geographic, linguistic, cultural, archeological migration, morphological, blood type, and genetic testing and is remarkably consistent)

    2) do these classifications carry visibly morphological or empirically genetic correspondence (yes)

    3) How many samples of a kin group do we need to trace their relations (~1000 to get within 3%), (why? genes are complicated and we do not know the causal relations, we can only now identify a few common markers, so we must output-test morphology (evidentiary features)as well as input test our limited understanding of markers.

    4) what degree of precision do we need to falsify morphological, historical, linguistic, cultural differences? (given the colloquial measure that we are very little different from chimps, the degree of precision necessary to genetically falsify categories is ‘near complete’.)

    5) do these evident categories correspond to evolutionary, reproductive, linguistic, and cultural records? (yes)

    6) do people self identify with these categories? (yes)

    7) do people demonstrate preference in association for these categories. (yes, in all walks of life)

    8) do people demonstrate kin selection according to these classifications? (yes)

    9) do people in democratic countries vote by these categories (yes, when demographic distributions are to their advantage)

    10) do people in all countries report preferences (surveys) differently from how they demonstrate preferences (economic, marital, dating, friendship, phone calls, text messages, business relationships) (yes, universally – which is why the polling industry is in such a crisis)

    11) do people in the the media, academy, state, and church historically lie about scientific theories and facts that would cause them disfavor with their customer bases? (yes, always and everywhere)

    12) do people in the academy and the sciences demonstrate paradigm anchoring so severely that that they block research that contradicts their investments, and often paradigm reformation occurs only after prior paradigm authors have died? (yes)

    13) do people in the social sciences demonstrate the highest rates of falsehood in the publications of papers, books, and articles? (yes)

    14) does all the evidence lead us to conclude that reported opinions by social scientists differ from the scientific evidence? (yes).

    99% of psychologists *report* that iq has no meaning.

    Pretty much the entire social science profession other than economics is pseudoscience.

    In economics we know (finally) why much of economics is pseudoscience. (data. method. cherry-picking and selective accounting. political bias, moral bias, class bias. gender bias..)

    Don’t get me started on ‘global warming/cooling/climate change’. Or that we don’t have too many people living on the planet, or …..

    Please do not come to a gunfight with a squirt gun. I don’t like having to waste my time defending myself against the room-temperature-iq crowd. You’re clearly a well intended useful idiot indoctrinated into marxist and postmodern pseudoscience just as the church indoctrinated centuries of idiots before you.

    But thanks for forcing me to make this list so that I can use it over and over again.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-11 17:43:00 UTC

  • FICTIONAL WOO (HYPERBOLE) VS FICTIONALISM WOO (LIES) I am fine with fiction. -bu

    FICTIONAL WOO (HYPERBOLE) VS FICTIONALISM WOO (LIES)

    I am fine with fiction.

    -but-

    I am not fine with FICTIONALISM. (Lying)

    Fiction: analogy, metaphor, and parable. A method of transferring meaning.

    -vs-

    Fictionalism: supernaturalism, pseudo-rationalism, pseudoscience. or any combination thereof, that serves as a false substitute of argument.

    Wisdom-and-meaning,

    -vs-

    Truth-and-argument,

    They are two different things.

    We cannot argue from meaning without lying.

    We may not be able to produce meaning from truth.

    So, to make use of both without fictionalism:

    Via Positiva construct meaning.

    -then-

    Via Negative leave only truth remaining.

    So no conflation.

    No abrahamism.

    End abrahamism forever.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-11 17:08:00 UTC

  • “If I can’t survive and speak truthfully…. what’s the alternative? What can I

    —“If I can’t survive and speak truthfully…. what’s the alternative? What can I do differently?”—

    Say nothing when possible.

    Say the least possible and obscurant when you can’t say nothing.

    Simply agree when you can’t say the least possible.

    Remember Them.

    Return to Punish them for the use of ir-reciprocity via blackmailing you into stating a falsehood, and causing harm to you, your transcendence, and mankind.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-11 11:30:00 UTC

  • All our troubles spring from either the ignorance that prevents us from plain cl

    All our troubles spring from either the ignorance that prevents us from plain clear cut language, or the wilful misuse of language for the purpose of suggestion, deception, and fraud.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-11 11:23:00 UTC

  • “The best of stoic ethics has already been incorporated by the Church”– Anon Th

    —“The best of stoic ethics has already been incorporated by the Church”– Anon

    The best of stoic ethics would include not lying by fictionalism.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-11 11:05:00 UTC