Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • Occult: It’s cool, it’s hip, and it’s accessible.

    October 26th, 2018 4:17 PM

    —“Can someone please explain to me why this occult shit is so attractive? I mean, it’s like reading fantasy fiction for the politically frustrated?”— Curt Doolittle

    by Goran Dahl It’s cool, it’s hip, and it’s accessible. You read something like Metaphysics of War, and it’s not that different from The Fellowship of the Ring. Same beautifully constructed sentences, full of poetic words, riddled with lofty nouns that are inevitably capitalized like the philosophical texts of old. One of my favourites is when they capitalize Truth (whatever the fuck that’s supposed to mean). Who the fuck wants to read this “operational”, “via negativa” garbage, whatever that is? It all looks like computer code to me and that stuff is for nerds, right? These kids grew up with this stuff, this poison from Arktos and Counter-Currents. And what’s more, they will never, for the life of them, consider that maybe – just maybe – they shouldn’t trust these jesters and their sources, all of which are rooted in religious texts. You see, atheism or even agnosticism, those aren’t options; those are the tools of the Left. Surely, we cannot espouse the opinions of the Left, so instead, we will regress further and further and become ever more backward until this vile, leftist materialism and its child, despicable Science, are utterly obliterated and replaced with a spiritually transcendent society, which will be guided by religious texts, “perennial truths”, that were totally not written by fools and deceptive human beings, but instead written by people possessed by powerful, metaphysical forces, the names of which are once again capitalized for effect and this perverted stack of lies continues getting higher and higher and higher..

    —“That is the best explanation anyone has ever given me: Fantasy Fiction. Thank you.”— Curt Doolittle

  • GROKKING “ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN” FRAME OF ARGUMENT. —“( When we say ‘Traditi

    GROKKING “ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN” FRAME OF ARGUMENT.

    —“(

    When we say ‘Tradition’ we are using it as a noun, a synonym to ‘Perennial Wisdom’) – a metaphysical claim to Truth.

    See: Perennial philosophy – Wikipedia

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy

    Specifically of the Traditionalist School (which purges the New Agey bs)

    See: Traditionalist School – Wikipedia

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_School

    )”— Elders of the Black Sun 3

    So you mean Wisdom (evidence of survival in use of prolongation of a group evolutionary strategy: ie Peterson’s ‘Darwinian Truth’ ) as an equivalent to Truth (testimony that is consistent, correspondent, coherent, operational, existentially possible, complete), independent of preference or good. And you mean Wisdom Literature rather than Scientific (Correspondent) Description.

    And which Tradition are you referring to? French, Authoritarian, Supernatural, or Anglo, Contractual, Real?

    I think you mean French, Authoritarian, Universal, and Supernatural, or the German restatement of Authoritarian, National, and Ideal(imaginary). But you don’t mean Anglo, Contractual, and Real (Science).

    Ok… so yes, you are speaking in Postmodern (anti-scientific, anti-real, anti-darwinian) school of the French and Italian catholic reformists: Traditionalist School.

    And, yes, you are relying on Perennialism (universalism, and eternalism of the content of the wisdom literature developed under agrarianism and pastoralism, but abandoned under industrialism.)

    So, Continental (Secular Catholic), Postmodern (anti-realist, anti-scientific), literature and intutionism (anti-calculation).

    And yes, this is the secularization of catholic authoritarian conformity of the laboring classes who cannot afford to learn, or are unable to learn, and then make use of calculation and computation for the purpose of competitive evolution, and so rely on sentimental stagnation as a resistance movement.

    Ok. I think I get it.

    Well, what I really like is the depth you’re going into. Good work.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-26 10:31:00 UTC

  • (e) There is no other reason to do so – which is why Abrahamic Theology, Platoni

    (e) There is no other reason to do so – which is why Abrahamic Theology, Platonic(literary) philosophy, their conflation in the medieval era, and continental reconstruction after anglo empirical falsification of it, was constructed.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 22:21:54 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055585269964029953

    Reply addressees: @PhilosophyCuck @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055565599517167618


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Jonas_Ceika

    @curtdoolittle @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN So are you saying that rigorously interpreting a text is by definition pilpul and therefore bad? How do you read philosophy then?

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055565599517167618

  • (d) the reason to write philosophy and theology is precisely to avoid math, logi

    (d) the reason to write philosophy and theology is precisely to avoid math, logic, science, economics, law, biography, and history. …


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 22:20:42 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055584967760187392

    Reply addressees: @PhilosophyCuck @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055565599517167618


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Jonas_Ceika

    @curtdoolittle @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN So are you saying that rigorously interpreting a text is by definition pilpul and therefore bad? How do you read philosophy then?

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055565599517167618

  • (a) Is that what I am saying? And (b) Why would anyone read either theology or p

    (a) Is that what I am saying? And (b) Why would anyone read either theology or philosophy in the age of math, logic, sciences, economics, law, history, and literature – each of which is less vulnerable to fraud and confirmation bias, than sophism (philosophy) and magic(theology)?


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 22:16:22 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055583878067482624

    Reply addressees: @PhilosophyCuck @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055565599517167618


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Jonas_Ceika

    @curtdoolittle @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN So are you saying that rigorously interpreting a text is by definition pilpul and therefore bad? How do you read philosophy then?

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055565599517167618

  • 16) When your use of that power, as we have seen, is to destroy the modern world

    16) When your use of that power, as we have seen, is to destroy the modern world as did the abrahamists (jews, christians, and muslims) destroyed the great civilizations of the ancient world, costing us more than a thousand years of dark age, and a billion deaths …


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 13:37:22 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055453265280884738

    Reply addressees: @PhilosophyCuck @WorMartiN

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055224404764999680


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Jonas_Ceika

    @curtdoolittle @WorMartiN You also end by saying one should study law, not literature. First off, I don’t study literature. Secondly, how is that an argument? And how is if Marx is liable for murder at all relevant to my points? I’m genuinely confused.

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055224404764999680

  • 5) My argument, a bit more articulate that Hicks’, is that this attempt at fraud

    5) My argument, a bit more articulate that Hicks’, is that this attempt at fraud is not only from Marxism to Postmodernism, but from the long history of Pilpul/Critique, Abrahamic Law, Platonism, Abrahamic Monotheism, Abrahamic Theology, and Continental Philosophy (Rousseau/Kant)


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 13:13:56 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055447368936669184

    Reply addressees: @PhilosophyCuck @WorMartiN

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055224404764999680


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Jonas_Ceika

    @curtdoolittle @WorMartiN You also end by saying one should study law, not literature. First off, I don’t study literature. Secondly, how is that an argument? And how is if Marx is liable for murder at all relevant to my points? I’m genuinely confused.

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055224404764999680

  • —“How Can I Understand Stoicism?”—

    October 24th, 2018 2:29 PM —“CURT: HOW CAN I UNDERSTAND STOICISM?”— Well there are a number of implied questions in there. 1) Do you mean so that you understand why I say it is superior to religion for the purpose of building mindfulness? 2) Do you want to learn how and why it functions scientifically? 3) Do you want to improve your own view of life (very hard to imagine anyone who follows me has that kind of issue, but maybe) 4) Do you want to solve a problem in your life or others? So, here is a series that takes you through the ‘Adult Version” from scientific through literary, to statistical. BOOK LISTSCIENTIFIC VIEW “Stoic Philosophy as Rational and Cognitive Psychotherapy ” This is the closest book to the science of stoicism that I know of: https://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Cognitive-Behavioural-Therapy-Psychotherapy/dp/1855757567 CURATIVE (NEGATIVE) VIEW “Build Your Resistance” This takes the idea and puts it into practice: https://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Resilience-Survive-Situation/dp/1444168711/ AMPLYFYING (POSITIVE) VIEW “A Guide to the Good Life” https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Good-Life-Ancient-Stoic/dp/0195374614 BIOGRAPHICAL (EXAMPLE) VIEW: Everyone recommends reading The Meditations of Aurelius as EVIDENCE that a great and powerful man used the practice every day in his diary. The alternative to (or supplement to) reading his book is THINK LIKE A ROMAN EMPEROR: https://www.amazon.com/How-Think-Like-Roman-Emperor/dp/1250196620 which walks you thru the great man’s life and puts context to his writings. For me it was actually The Letters of Michel de Montaigne (a christianized jew) that gave me an intellectual role model. So I recommend that as well. POLITICAL VIEW: Same for Machiavelli’s “The Prince” which i consider the first book on political science precisely because it is a work of stoic mindfulness. STATISTICAL VIEW: While it isn’t positioned this way, both BLACK SWAN (Unpredictable Outliers are Far More Important Than Daily Noise) and ANTI-FRAGILE (“That which doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, and stronger, and stronger”) are effectively works on Stoicism for smart people. ==== COMMENTARY === So, if you’re a high-iq aspie you’re a stoic by nature. Why? Um. We don’t have all those social fears because we frankly can’t feel any of them. lol. And we kind of think they’re silly. However, we are often ‘ostracized’ when young and have to find out how to fit in. So we have the opposite problem. My family – at least on my mother’s side (french) is just naturally stoic. So my interest in stoicism is political, and because of that scientific. So, I can recommend books to normies, but for geeks who need the scientific approach (who are naturally predisposed to resist suggestion) it’s actually pretty hard find a book to recommend – because most stoic reading is framed as self help. Stoicism isn’t framed as “Hey, between stoicism and nature, hero, deity worship (‘thanks’), and public ritual and festival (safety in the pack or herd), this set of practices was the collective constitution of our ancient religion”. It’s just that we didn’t IMPOSE that religion as did the monotheists, and didn’t write it down as a LAW. Same for our entire philosophy of western civilization (which is what I have tried to do.) We didn’t say: “Military service, particularly in formations, requires you develop stoicism in order to survive and thrive under the stresses of it all”. So between the necessity of military mindfulness, and the utility of applying that mindfulness to the even more chaotic social order our aristocratic ancestors converted the techniques into a standard method of education. They didn’t call it religion but philosophy. So there are people who want self-help so that they can self author (Develop Mindfulness). And there are people who want to understand WHY self help (self authoring) serves the function of rational self training vs the rituals and myths of the supernatural in GROUP form. Stoicism consists of cognitive behavioral therapy in the negative sense, and simply education and training in the positive sense. I consider it ‘self authoring’. but that is because it is taught as an individual discipline rather than a ‘we’ as is religion. I find stoicism to be reducible to ‘don/t’ take it personally, Do your best, Tell the Truth. Keep your word’. The problem is that there are bigger human questions that we need mental defense against. Some people need a guide. Some people are self guided. Some people need to follow the herd as their guide. one way or the other CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) to discipline the mind (Train) works.

  • —“How Can I Understand Stoicism?”—

    October 24th, 2018 2:29 PM —“CURT: HOW CAN I UNDERSTAND STOICISM?”— Well there are a number of implied questions in there. 1) Do you mean so that you understand why I say it is superior to religion for the purpose of building mindfulness? 2) Do you want to learn how and why it functions scientifically? 3) Do you want to improve your own view of life (very hard to imagine anyone who follows me has that kind of issue, but maybe) 4) Do you want to solve a problem in your life or others? So, here is a series that takes you through the ‘Adult Version” from scientific through literary, to statistical. BOOK LISTSCIENTIFIC VIEW “Stoic Philosophy as Rational and Cognitive Psychotherapy ” This is the closest book to the science of stoicism that I know of: https://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Cognitive-Behavioural-Therapy-Psychotherapy/dp/1855757567 CURATIVE (NEGATIVE) VIEW “Build Your Resistance” This takes the idea and puts it into practice: https://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Resilience-Survive-Situation/dp/1444168711/ AMPLYFYING (POSITIVE) VIEW “A Guide to the Good Life” https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Good-Life-Ancient-Stoic/dp/0195374614 BIOGRAPHICAL (EXAMPLE) VIEW: Everyone recommends reading The Meditations of Aurelius as EVIDENCE that a great and powerful man used the practice every day in his diary. The alternative to (or supplement to) reading his book is THINK LIKE A ROMAN EMPEROR: https://www.amazon.com/How-Think-Like-Roman-Emperor/dp/1250196620 which walks you thru the great man’s life and puts context to his writings. For me it was actually The Letters of Michel de Montaigne (a christianized jew) that gave me an intellectual role model. So I recommend that as well. POLITICAL VIEW: Same for Machiavelli’s “The Prince” which i consider the first book on political science precisely because it is a work of stoic mindfulness. STATISTICAL VIEW: While it isn’t positioned this way, both BLACK SWAN (Unpredictable Outliers are Far More Important Than Daily Noise) and ANTI-FRAGILE (“That which doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, and stronger, and stronger”) are effectively works on Stoicism for smart people. ==== COMMENTARY === So, if you’re a high-iq aspie you’re a stoic by nature. Why? Um. We don’t have all those social fears because we frankly can’t feel any of them. lol. And we kind of think they’re silly. However, we are often ‘ostracized’ when young and have to find out how to fit in. So we have the opposite problem. My family – at least on my mother’s side (french) is just naturally stoic. So my interest in stoicism is political, and because of that scientific. So, I can recommend books to normies, but for geeks who need the scientific approach (who are naturally predisposed to resist suggestion) it’s actually pretty hard find a book to recommend – because most stoic reading is framed as self help. Stoicism isn’t framed as “Hey, between stoicism and nature, hero, deity worship (‘thanks’), and public ritual and festival (safety in the pack or herd), this set of practices was the collective constitution of our ancient religion”. It’s just that we didn’t IMPOSE that religion as did the monotheists, and didn’t write it down as a LAW. Same for our entire philosophy of western civilization (which is what I have tried to do.) We didn’t say: “Military service, particularly in formations, requires you develop stoicism in order to survive and thrive under the stresses of it all”. So between the necessity of military mindfulness, and the utility of applying that mindfulness to the even more chaotic social order our aristocratic ancestors converted the techniques into a standard method of education. They didn’t call it religion but philosophy. So there are people who want self-help so that they can self author (Develop Mindfulness). And there are people who want to understand WHY self help (self authoring) serves the function of rational self training vs the rituals and myths of the supernatural in GROUP form. Stoicism consists of cognitive behavioral therapy in the negative sense, and simply education and training in the positive sense. I consider it ‘self authoring’. but that is because it is taught as an individual discipline rather than a ‘we’ as is religion. I find stoicism to be reducible to ‘don/t’ take it personally, Do your best, Tell the Truth. Keep your word’. The problem is that there are bigger human questions that we need mental defense against. Some people need a guide. Some people are self guided. Some people need to follow the herd as their guide. one way or the other CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) to discipline the mind (Train) works.

  • “CURT: HOW CAN I UNDERSTAND STOICISM?”— Well there are a number of implied que

    —“CURT: HOW CAN I UNDERSTAND STOICISM?”—

    Well there are a number of implied questions in there.

    1) Do you mean so that you understand why I say it is superior to religion for the purpose of building mindfulness?

    2) Do you want to learn how and why it functions scientifically?

    3) Do you want to improve your own view of life (very hard to imagine anyone who follows me has that kind of issue, but maybe)

    4) Do you want to solve a problem in your life or others?

    So, here is a series that takes you through the ‘Adult Version” from scientific through literary, to statistical.

    BOOK LIST

    SCIENTIFIC VIEW “Stoic Philosophy as Rational and Cognitive Psychotherapy ” This is the closest book to the science of stoicism that I know of: https://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Cognitive-Behavioural-Therapy-Psychotherapy/dp/1855757567

    CURATIVE (NEGATIVE) VIEW “Build Your Resistance” This takes the idea and puts it into practice: https://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Resilience-Survive-Situation/dp/1444168711/

    AMPLYFYING (POSITIVE) VIEW “A Guide to the Good Life” https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Good-Life-Ancient-Stoic/dp/0195374614

    BIOGRAPHICAL (EXAMPLE) VIEW: Everyone recommends reading The Meditations of Aurelius as EVIDENCE that a great and powerful man used the practice every day in his diary. The alternative to (or supplement to) reading his book is THINK LIKE A ROMAN EMPEROR: https://www.amazon.com/How-Think-Like-Roman-Emperor/dp/1250196620 which walks you thru the great man’s life and puts context to his writings. For me it was actually The Letters of Michel de Montaigne (a christianized jew) that gave me an intellectual role model. So I recommend that as well.

    POLITICAL VIEW: Same for Machiavelli’s “The Prince” which i consider the first book on political science precisely because it is a work of stoic mindfulness.

    STATISTICAL VIEW: While it isn’t positioned this way, both BLACK SWAN (Unpredictable Outliers are Far More Important Than Daily Noise) and ANTI-FRAGILE (“That which doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, and stronger, and stronger”) are effectively works on Stoicism for smart people.

    ==== COMMENTARY ===

    So, if you’re a high-iq aspie you’re a stoic by nature. Why? Um. We don’t have all those social fears because we frankly can’t feel any of them. lol. And we kind of think they’re silly. However, we are often ‘ostracized’ when young and have to find out how to fit in. So we have the opposite problem. My family – at least on my mother’s side (french) is just naturally stoic. So my interest in stoicism is political, and because of that scientific.

    So, I can recommend books to normies, but for geeks who need the scientific approach (who are naturally predisposed to resist suggestion) it’s actually pretty hard find a book to recommend – because most stoic reading is framed as self help.

    Stoicism isn’t framed as “Hey, between stoicism and nature, hero, deity worship (‘thanks’), and public ritual and festival (safety in the pack or herd), this set of practices was the collective constitution of our ancient religion”. It’s just that we didn’t IMPOSE that religion as did the monotheists, and didn’t write it down as a LAW. Same for our entire philosophy of western civilization (which is what I have tried to do.)

    We didn’t say: “Military service, particularly in formations, requires you develop stoicism in order to survive and thrive under the stresses of it all”. So between the necessity of military mindfulness, and the utility of applying that mindfulness to the even more chaotic social order our aristocratic ancestors converted the techniques into a standard method of education. They didn’t call it religion but philosophy.

    So there are people who want self-help so that they can self author (Develop Mindfulness). And there are people who want to understand WHY self help (self authoring) serves the function of rational self training vs the rituals and myths of the supernatural in GROUP form.

    Stoicism consists of cognitive behavioral therapy in the negative sense, and simply education and training in the positive sense. I consider it ‘self authoring’. but that is because it is taught as an individual discipline rather than a ‘we’ as is religion. I find stoicism to be reducible to ‘don/t’ take it personally, Do your best, Tell the Truth. Keep your word’. The problem is that there are bigger human questions that we need mental defense against. Some people need a guide. Some people are self guided. Some people need to follow the herd as their guide. one way or the other CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) to discipline the mind (Train) works.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-24 14:29:00 UTC