Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • Just… just BARELY getting over the hump with understanding the relationship be

    Just… just BARELY getting over the hump with understanding the relationship between the people and the orthodox church vs the people and the catholic church, vs the protestant religion and each-other. So you know, when someone is religious in Orthodoxy (Ukraine, Belarus, Russia at least) it means something very different to them than it does to us in the west. So I don’t have the same ‘objection’ to their support as I do western use of the church as means of argument. in that sense western religious folk are more fundamentalist and eastern more traditionalist.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-23 16:05:00 UTC

  • MY VERY SIMPLE SCIENTIFIC TECHNIQUE AND WHAT I HAVE LEARNED FROM RELIGION Religi

    MY VERY SIMPLE SCIENTIFIC TECHNIQUE AND WHAT I HAVE LEARNED FROM RELIGION

    Religion is, surprisingly, the ‘hard problem’ of social science. Every other problem I have set out to solve (understand) has been trivial by comparison. Truth took me a year. The grammars took me less than six months. And those are very hard problems. Religion was much harder.

    I use a very simple (scientific) technique, that long-term followers know well, which is to attack a problem, causing other people to defend it, until I understand their incentives. This is a better method of research than reading what other authors opine (make excuses for or against.)

    I am trying to understand (better than I do now) why the the demand for the God (bad) and Jesus (good) mythos’ (they are different) persists among some people and groups and not others. I have begun to understand it better than I did. I understand (easily) why certain classes demand it. I have begun to understand the different weights different cultures attach to it.

    And I am ‘testing’ whether (I think correctly) it is simply a failure to provide mindfulness by non-nonsense means (and why governments would resist teaching a non-nonsense method of mindfulness).

    Mostly what I have come to understand, is that people are ignorant of the available options and their intuitions have been so successfully trained by the one they already hold, that they cannot imagine training their intuitions by any other means.

    So (a) man needs mindfulness, and (b) and man needs mindfulness to different degrees, and (c) the mindfulness is dependent a bit on genetics of mindfulness (males less than females in general, and females more in general), (d) personality needs, (e) class circumstances, (f) cultural-political circumstances – all of which generate (or do not generate) demand for mindfulness.

    Now, that mindfulness can be provided by the Hindu Means (literary immersion), the three abrahamic monotheistic means (organized indoctrination) of low(islam), working(christian), and middle (jewish) religion; the buddhist means (training); the rather ‘new age/european’ (philosophy-as-religion-substitute) means; the shinto and ritual means (ritual); or by cognitive-behavioral education that we call ‘Stoicism’ for context.

    And there is a great deal to lean just from the ORDER of those methods of training: how much infrastructure is needed to preserve the ‘illusion’ of the mythos vs argument vs ritual vs education. And how much ‘ability’ given the means of training (immersion in hinduism through individual education in stoicism). But this is just a matter of WEALTH sufficient to pay for the means of TRAINING vs a given period of time: ie: producing the mass illusions of the ancient religions required an informational vulnerability (absence of knowledge and alternatives) that existed only in the past – and no longer does.

    So if one wants to produce a religion that is not made of lies, it is entirely possible to do so – with a total absence of religious parables. And instead, a reliance on parables of history, and training in the virtues.

    Christianity has a very simple set of underlying principles that are constituted in only four statements. Islam and judaism can also be, but to do so is horrifying. Christianity’s four statements are quite simple and will in general produce consequent goods.

    There is just no need to lie to people and train them to be vulnerable to lies, and train priests to lie, and politicians to lie by the same means in order to teach those four rules.

    No more lies by judaism, devolves into christianity, devolves into islam, evolves into marxism, postmodernism, feminism.

    No more lies. People need “imaginary friends, parents, leaders” for very well underst reasons: they have been failed by those around them, to provide positive socialization and training by existential means.

    We are able to teach truthful speech (science) and there is no reason we cannot provide positive socialization and training (mindfulness) by equally truthful means.

    Convergence on the Truth: continuous correspondence between reality perception cognition recollection description negotiation, and advocacy.

    Affections.

    -Curt


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-23 06:54:00 UTC

  • Wotan Gives Us a Hard Heart

    October 22nd, 2018 10:34 AM WOTAN GIVES US A HARD HEART

    Wotan placed a hard heart in my breast,” is what an old Scandinavian saga says: the poet who said this caught correctly what springs straight from the soul of a proud Viking. Such a type of man is proud of the very fact that he has not been made for compassion: which is why the hero of the saga adds in warning, “If a man does not have a hard heart when young, it will never harden”. The noble and the brave who think like this are the furthest from that morality that sees the badge of morality precisely in compassion or in doing things for others or in selflessness; one’s faith in one’s self, one’s pride in one’s self, a basic animosity and irony towards selflessness belongs just as definitely to noble morality as a mild contempt and wariness towards compassionate feelings and the warm heart”— Nietzsche, from the Genealogy of Morals.

  • Wotan Gives Us a Hard Heart

    October 22nd, 2018 10:34 AM WOTAN GIVES US A HARD HEART

    Wotan placed a hard heart in my breast,” is what an old Scandinavian saga says: the poet who said this caught correctly what springs straight from the soul of a proud Viking. Such a type of man is proud of the very fact that he has not been made for compassion: which is why the hero of the saga adds in warning, “If a man does not have a hard heart when young, it will never harden”. The noble and the brave who think like this are the furthest from that morality that sees the badge of morality precisely in compassion or in doing things for others or in selflessness; one’s faith in one’s self, one’s pride in one’s self, a basic animosity and irony towards selflessness belongs just as definitely to noble morality as a mild contempt and wariness towards compassionate feelings and the warm heart”— Nietzsche, from the Genealogy of Morals.

  • WOTAN GIVES US A HARD HEART “‘Wotan placed a hard heart in my breast,’ is what a

    WOTAN GIVES US A HARD HEART

    “‘Wotan placed a hard heart in my breast,’ is what an old Scandinavian saga says: the poet who said this caught correctly what springs straight from the soul of a proud Viking. Such a type of man is proud of the very fact that he has not been made for compassion: which is why the hero of the saga adds in warning, ‘If a man does not have a hard heart when young, it will never harden’. The noble and the brave who think like this are the furthest from that morality that sees the badge of morality precisely in compassion or in doing things for others or in désintéressement; one’s faith in one’s self, one’s pride in one’s self, a basic animosity and irony towards ‘selflessness’ belongs just as definitely to noble morality as a mild contempt and wariness towards compassionate feelings and the ‘warm heart’”— Nietzsche, from the Genealogy of Morals.

    <thanks to Freyr Björnsson>


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-22 10:34:00 UTC

  • Religions Whether Occult or Secular Sell Fake Status

    October 19th, 2018 2:00 PM RELIGIONS WHETHER OCCULT OR SECULAR SELL FAKE STATUS by John Mark [R]eligion sells fake status just as leftism sells fake status. Religion sells artificial good feelings – a method of lying to oneself as a method of dealing with the harshness of life – just as leftism does. NPCs seem to need these lies, or an alternative that provides them the same service: “You don’t have to think, you can feel good/more secure/optimistic about yourself and about life even if you have no reason to, and you can feel like life has a grand meaning even if it is false.” The only alternative we can offer them is a “religion” (rituals/training/symbolic reminders) of stoicism/ancestor “worship” (admiration/thanks), which requires being honest with oneself, and a fairly secure place in our pack if they can add some value and not advocate for theft. As far as I can tell, far less than half the world’s population is capable of that. Some NPCs may be able to live under our system, and we can do their thinking for them, if they can resist the urge to lie and rebel against the truth. But I am doubtful most people can handle it. Thus we must separate from those who cannot do it, and transcend apart from them, embracing our role as the world’s master class/race (including the minority of non-whites with the agency to join us) as we have been for centuries. Our attempt to lift up the world’s teeming masses by letting them immigrate and live under our law, or invading them and imposing the superficial structure of our laws, has failed. Because they are not like us. We are a minority on earth, and our strategy must reflect that. We can benefit them via our advancements, from across a high wall, and provide them with help to transcend as they request it respectfully, from across a high wall. Separate. Transcend.

  • Religions Whether Occult or Secular Sell Fake Status

    October 19th, 2018 2:00 PM RELIGIONS WHETHER OCCULT OR SECULAR SELL FAKE STATUS by John Mark [R]eligion sells fake status just as leftism sells fake status. Religion sells artificial good feelings – a method of lying to oneself as a method of dealing with the harshness of life – just as leftism does. NPCs seem to need these lies, or an alternative that provides them the same service: “You don’t have to think, you can feel good/more secure/optimistic about yourself and about life even if you have no reason to, and you can feel like life has a grand meaning even if it is false.” The only alternative we can offer them is a “religion” (rituals/training/symbolic reminders) of stoicism/ancestor “worship” (admiration/thanks), which requires being honest with oneself, and a fairly secure place in our pack if they can add some value and not advocate for theft. As far as I can tell, far less than half the world’s population is capable of that. Some NPCs may be able to live under our system, and we can do their thinking for them, if they can resist the urge to lie and rebel against the truth. But I am doubtful most people can handle it. Thus we must separate from those who cannot do it, and transcend apart from them, embracing our role as the world’s master class/race (including the minority of non-whites with the agency to join us) as we have been for centuries. Our attempt to lift up the world’s teeming masses by letting them immigrate and live under our law, or invading them and imposing the superficial structure of our laws, has failed. Because they are not like us. We are a minority on earth, and our strategy must reflect that. We can benefit them via our advancements, from across a high wall, and provide them with help to transcend as they request it respectfully, from across a high wall. Separate. Transcend.

  • Weak men need false heroes, demigods, and gods to give them the approval they fa

    Weak men need false heroes, demigods, and gods to give them the approval they fail to obtain from others for their thoughts, words, and deeds. They need false cults to find comfort in a fantasy of those like them who fail.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-19 18:06:36 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1053346694597881856

  • TRUTH IS ENOUGH. We have a universe, nature, our ancestors, and ourselves to be

    TRUTH IS ENOUGH.

    We have a universe, nature, our ancestors, and ourselves to be thankful for. Men who have ancestors worthy of thanks (worship), have no need of false ones. Men who hold lands and render them gardens, have our ancestors and ourselves to be thankful for. Men who grasp the universe itself have the our ancestors and ourselves to be thankful for. We have ancestors that were the heroes they imagined. We are the demi-gods they imagined. And we are not yet done becoming the gods they, and we, imagine.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-19 14:04:00 UTC

  • RELIGIONS WHETHER OCCULT OR SECULAR SELL FAKE STATUS by John Mark Religion sells

    RELIGIONS WHETHER OCCULT OR SECULAR SELL FAKE STATUS

    by John Mark

    Religion sells fake status just as leftism sells fake

    status. Religion sells artificial good feelings – a method of lying to oneself as a method of dealing with the harshness of life – just as leftism does.

    NPCs seem to need these lies, or an alternative that provides

    them the same service: “You don’t have to think, you can feel

    good/more secure/optimistic about yourself and about life even if you have no reason to, and you can feel like life has a grand meaning even if it is false.”

    The only alternative we can offer them is a “religion”

    (rituals/training/symbolic reminders) of stoicism/ancestor

    “worship” (admiration/thanks), which requires being honest with oneself, and a fairly secure place in our pack *if* they can add some value and not advocate for theft.

    As far as I can tell, far less than half the world’s population is

    capable of that. Some NPCs may be able to live under our

    system, and we can do their thinking for them, if they can resist the urge to lie and rebel against the truth. But I am doubtful most people can handle it. Thus we must *separate* from those who cannot do it, and *transcend* apart from them, embracing our role as the world’s master class/race (including the minority of non-whites with the agency to join us) as we have been for centuries.

    Our attempt to lift up the world’s teeming masses by letting them immigrate and live under our law, or invading them and imposing the superficial structure of our laws, has failed. Because they are not like us. We are a minority on earth, and our strategy must reflect that. We can benefit them via our advancements, from across a high wall, and provide them with help to transcend as they request it *respectfully*, from across a high wall.

    Separate. Transcend.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-19 14:00:00 UTC