WHY REJECT AN OFFER OF DEBATE WITH A THEIST?
—“You rejected his invitation to debate him on his podcast”—
—“Yeah, what gives?”—
—“please explain”—
We can make excuses for justifying our desires by pursuit of, discovery of, choice of, and advocacy of, faith, or its equivalent in the supernatural, or the platonic, or the pseudorational, or the pseudoscientific. And we make those excuses in many ways.
There are any number of people who I debate on a regular basis who acknowledge that they merely choose that article of faith in all its forms. I choose my faith in my god, and I choose to ‘believe it’ despite knowing with near certainty my self delusion, and the psychological device god functions to fulfill. But I never use this faith in interpersonal ARGUMENT (truth) I only use this faith in personal CHOICE (preference).
There are those people who are unable to choose not to rely on either faith by choice, or introspection regardless of choice, because of biological (genetic constraints) – the most obvious being women’s various collectivist cognitive biases.
There are those people who deny that a choice is possible, because they cannot conceive of decidability by other means.
There are those people that engage in justification for that choice or their inability to choose otherwise, and do so by moral means.
There are those people who engage in self and other deceit to defend that choice or their inability to choose otherwise, and do so by moral means.
There are those who advocate self and other deceit to defend that choice or their inability to choose otherwise, and do so by immoral means.
Jay makes use of:
0-supernaturalism,
1-platonism,
2-pseudorationalism,
but worst of all, he makes use of:
3-cosmopolitan pseudoscience in the form of psychologizing,
4-cosmopolitan propagandizing, in the form of ridicule, shaming, and rallying.
5-the ad hom attack to obtain attention.
and furthermore
6-he preys upon those lacking the ability, knowledge, and experience to circumvent his deceits.
7-he has highly (over) invested in the creation of a persona in order to obtain attention, and like all ‘priests’ attempts to capture enough of that attention to create an environment in which he can experience his deceptions as if they are natural rather than fictional phenomenon.
Any debate depends upon the presumption that the other party can (a) understand your arguments if you can construct them well enough (b) participate honestly, (c) constrain one’s self to that which is categorical, reasonable, rational, and empirical – testable by the other party.
I have no confidence that jay can (a) understand that he errs, nor can he understand testimonialism, (b) can conduct a debate honestly, (c) can constrain himself to the testable, and (d) refrain from his adopted cosmopolitan (marxist) techniques of ridicule, rallying, shaming, pseudoscience (psychologizing), and therefore (e) debate whether testimonialism is testifiable vs whether his ‘metaphysical dependencies’ are testifiable.
Testimonialism and Propertarianism are not something I ask people to believe. It is a logical, operational, methodology for testable speech that empowers people to demonstrate whether they and others understand their arguments, and to construct alternative explanations from those arguments put forward, by means of strict construction. Propertarian statements are subjectively testable, they do not require ‘belief’ (faith).
So, I see no value in the pretense of debate, since NO ACT OF DEBATE IS POSSIBLE between logical and nonsensical propositions.
And honestly, as long as he and his followers do not trouble me too much, I don’t really have any interest other than the odd curiosity that there is a market for nonsense of all kinds.
So that’s you’re answer. “It would be a waste of time.”
–“It would not”–Tristann J. DM
Then you would need to explain to me why not.
Source date (UTC): 2017-01-10 18:55:00 UTC