Category: Civilization, History, and Anthropology

  • IT”S NOT SO MUCH WHITE AND DARK, AS SUCCESS AND FAILURE AT NEOTONY. The european

    IT”S NOT SO MUCH WHITE AND DARK, AS SUCCESS AND FAILURE AT NEOTONY.

    The european west and the han/japanese/koreans look very different but we have far more in common than we do with the steppe/desert/tundra peoples who are less developed than east and west.

    I mean, fundamentally, caucasians branch just into two groups: the more evolved Neotonic northern with flatter faces and smaller noses and lighter hair, and the less evolved less Neotonic southern with pointier faces and bigger noses and darker hair.

    I mean, the real problem if you want to get down to it, is that the east and west succeeded in neoteny and the center did not, for the simple reason that there were too many tribes in conflict, and the area was more suitable to the preservation of pastoralism, so the desert, steppe, and tundra people didn’t have as much time to go through the farming and commercial phases, shrink their underclasses, and succeed in neotonic evolutoin.

    I mean. They’re more aggressive. It’s simple.

    Aggression and large numbers that live poor quality lives is a competitive advantage against less aggressive with smaller numbers that live better lives.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-14 23:27:00 UTC

  • Five % of Americans fought in the original Revolution while the remaining Ninety

    Five % of Americans fought in the original Revolution while the remaining Ninety Five % were pro Tory until it was safe to be otherwise. The largest Army that George Washington ever lead was 13,000 men and that was against citizens of the United States.

    Le fromage grande

    We’re already in a civil war…it’s just that the lead hasn’t started to fly yet.

    Skitz00

    There has been a slow-motion, incipient civil war going on since the sixties. The political left has pretty much taken over the education sector, the entertainment sector, the media and the judiciary. They have entrenched themselves in a “deep state”. This can only end in one of two ways: A nasty divorce or a shooting war and I don’t see a shooting war as very likely.

    I think the country is heading for some type of breakup. To be honest, I’m not sure that is such a bad idea. Traditional America supports the Constitution as it is written, it supports the rule of law and the actual punishment of those who break the law, and it supports the protection of our borders. Leftist America opposes all of the above. How do you reconcile those two positions?

    What’s the over/under on how many years (months?) it would take for leftist America to look like a third world nation? Just make sure to get it into the secession treaty: We are still allies but both side are on their own.

    John_33

    The Civil War is currently a Cold War. Both sides know it. The question is whether this cold war will turn hot or if the Deep State will collapse first.

    Informed

    At some time in the next year or two, we will drop into recession again. We are due. Our slow growth rate is making the run up before the next recession last longer. But, our economy is more constrained than ever by taxes, regulation, world competition and civil dysfunction, and growing mostly due to the use of more and more debt. Debt creates bubbles that leak and deflate. When the recession hits, deficits will rise above a trillion a year again. At some point, too much borrow and spend will result in rapid inflation and middle class savings and incomes shrinking in purchasing power. It is going to get ugly.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-14 07:31:00 UTC

  • If you fill a 30 story skyscraper with third worlders, you will get a third worl

    If you fill a 30 story skyscraper with third worlders, you will get a third world skyscraper fire. These primitive people have not learned how to live responsibly. “We” don’t have these problems. They do.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-13 22:36:00 UTC

  • THE RESTORATION OF ARYANISM – OUR SEVENTH AGE We have entered the restoration. T

    THE RESTORATION OF ARYANISM – OUR SEVENTH AGE

    We have entered the restoration. The final defeat of the lies of Abrahamism. Our Seventh Age.

    1) The Age of the Horse Bronze and Wheel – The Black Sea (defeated by success and consequent absorption)

    2) The Age of Iron – The Mediterranean (Defeated by Success and Abrahamism)

    3) The Age of Rebirth – The North Sea (Delayed by Atlanticism)

    4) The Age of Steel – The Atlantic – (Defeated by success and civil war)

    5) The Attempt at Rebirth (germany) – The North Sea and Continent (defeated by jewish communists and anglo puritans [anglo jews])

    6) The Attempt at Restoration (america) – The World (Defeated by Success and Postmodernism, and the opening to islam by postmodernists)

    7) … The Restoration of Aryanism (europa magna) – The defeat of the abrahamists in all their forms)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-13 19:10:00 UTC

  • WHAT IS ARYANISM? (ARISTOCRATIC EGALITARIANISM) Aryanism: truth, heroism, sovere

    WHAT IS ARYANISM? (ARISTOCRATIC EGALITARIANISM)

    Aryanism: truth, heroism, sovereignty, techne (knowledge), and competitive excellence: dominion over man and nature and therefore transcendence. Once you have sovereignty, you must produce natural law of reciprocity (equality). Once you have natural law, you can cooperate only with markets. Including the market for defense: the militia. Once you have markets and natural law and truth telling and a militia, you are innovating as fast as humans can possibly achieve.

    The consequence of markets in everything is the production of agency by the elimination of those who lack capacity of agency either through starvation, reproductive pressure, or extermination for their crimes.

    Or more simply: that to speak the truth the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, despite the consequences to the existing dominance hierarchy, is an heroic act, and a very ‘expensive tax’ that we pay. And those who would retaliate against truthful speech betray the community and constitute a theft from the commons paid for by the high cost of truth telling by all of us.

    Welcome to the Restoration.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-13 18:39:00 UTC

  • THE LESSON OF HISTORY: THE CANCER OF ABRAHAMISM, AND THE ENLIGHTENMENT AS THE AR

    THE LESSON OF HISTORY: THE CANCER OF ABRAHAMISM, AND THE ENLIGHTENMENT AS THE ARYAN RESTORATION

    One does not reject christianity in favor of postmodernism, or marxism, or islamism – one rejects all abrahamism in favor of Aryanism. A return to Aryanism.

    Aryanism: truth, heroism, sovereignty, techne (knowledge), and competitive excellence: dominion over man and nature and therefore transcendence.

    Abrahamism is to reject Aryanism by demanding its opposites: lying(-truth), submission(-heroism), sovereignty (-collectivism and equality), ignorance and superstition (-techne and laws of nature), and equality(-competitive excellence) and surrender to the passions of the animal man and to forgo transcendence and retreat into animal.

    ‘Abrahamism includes Judaism, it’s heresy of Christianity, Christianity’s heresy of Islam.

    The evidence is clear: the jews were the most literate people but lost their territory, and were almost exterminated multiple times, and they contributed precisely nothing to the betterment of mankind despite their literacy.

    The Aryan man dragged mankind out of superstition, ignorance, poverty, in the ancient world.

    The Christian man descended into ignorance, superstition, poverty, disease, and tyranny under christianity, peaking in 1000ad, and from 1200 ad onward incrementally restored his aryanism, casting off abrahamism between 1480 and 1800, then again from 1800 to 1914.

    Starting in the 1700’s, in opposition to the Enlightenment (Aryan Restoration) the French reinvented secular Abrahamism, which led to the bloody french revolution and the end of french civilization, and the reduction of france to a feminine people.

    But starting in the mid 1800’s with boaz, marx, freud, the abrahamists invented pseudoscience where before they invented pseudo-mythology.

    And beginning with the defeat of the Russian orthodox peoples by the Bolsheviks, and the folly of Russian people under communism, it took almost a century to free Russians from lies, and the damage the russian people under the Abrahamists had done to the world.

    The French retaliated again, and evolved Abrahamism again, converted abrahamic Marxism to Abrahamic postmodernism. And it is postmodernism that has infected the west yet again, with another wave of feminine abrahamism.

    Because of this infection of the west, Islam is not contained any longer, and masculine islam is conquering feminine postmodernism.

    The same is true for islam: islam was nothing, and destroyed the four great civilizations of the ancient world: The north african, the levantine, the roman, and the persian. And for 1400 years the west, much of india, and the far east survived, until the west rose out of christianity and returned briefly to Aryanism. And almost succeeded from freeing herself under the German expansion.

    Had it not been for the conquest of russians by the eastern european bolshevik jews, the germans might have saved us from Abrahamism and completed the enlightenment: the restoration of our peoples.

    Abrahamism is a cancer of the mind. Everyone suffers for it. Just because something is appealing, does not make it good.

    Between Islam (250M dead), and Communism (+100M dead), and the destruction of the North African, Levantine, Roman, and Persian empires, nothing has been worse for humanity than Abrahamism – even the black plagues pale in comparison.

    Yet, a small group of men practicing Aryanism can drag all of mankind out of superstition, ignorance, poverty, disease, and tyranny of the ignorant.

    Those people conquered everything from spain to the gobi desert.

    But wherever they conquered they were absorbed by the local population and lost.

    Wherever we eradicated others, we survived.

    The Iranian branch developed zoroastrianism – submission to one god. The jews invented abrahamism. And they invented it to resist both European and Iranian Peoples.

    To practice Abrahamism is to practice suicide.

    That is the lesson of history.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-13 18:02:00 UTC

  • THE DIFFERENCES: MYTH, LITERATURE, AND HISTORY The difference between a myth and

    THE DIFFERENCES: MYTH, LITERATURE, AND HISTORY

    The difference between a myth and a lie is that it’s identifiable as an exaggeration and therefore a magnification of reality, and therefore a bit of wisdom – a universal – while never crossing the line into claiming any aspect of the myth is true. An advice of the universal.

    The difference between literature and myth is that it’s identifiable as a dramatization: a bit of circumstantial wisdom – a lower resolution than myth: a magnification of the interpersonal, rather than all of reality – an advice of the social.

    The difference between history and literature is that it’s principally identifiable as a record of our mistakes: a bit of humility – an advice of cautions.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-12 19:52:00 UTC

  • THE REASONS FOR THE CURRENT CRISIS IN THE WORLD – THE CORRECTION OF MALTHUS. (ve

    THE REASONS FOR THE CURRENT CRISIS IN THE WORLD – THE CORRECTION OF MALTHUS.

    (very important narrative)(lots of quotable ideas for your use)(read more than once)

    1) People justify their intuitions, justify their wants, justify their seizure of opportunities, justify (cast) their actions as goods.

    This is the reason why truthful speech (measurements), and science (measurements), and measurement (mathematics) are so ‘unnatural’ for us: we did not so much evolve language to lie, but to negotiate – not speak the truth as we understand the meaning of that term today.

    The principle function of public intellectuals is to create an excuse that survives criticism in the context. Just as has been done among all humans in all of recorded history – and seemingly before it.

    2) For most of our evolutionary history as humans, as we increasingly unified, we have attempted to invent justifications for imposing one set of preferences (goods) over many other sets and combinations thereof.

    The question is, why did we unify? Because life on the farm as slave, serf, laborer, freeman was very hard, and people were poor, and powerless, and unification was *always* preferable to division in cases other than invasion and war.

    3) The the enlightenment, the agrarian and industrial revolution, and the rifle changed this condition. Colonialism and world wars expanded the scope of the change in condition. For the first time in history the marginal difference in power between peoples was largely that of numbers.

    We can look at greek/roman reason along similar lines: having ‘succeeded’ in obtaining sovereignty in fact over the east if not the entire mediterranean, people sought excuses for the current order (socrates), the perfection and expansion (plato), cause of the condition (aristotle), and how to enjoy it (epicurus and zeno). But these are all ‘excuses’ for the use of commons (opportunities) constructed by the population density of the community.

    4) So in search of new excuses, to seize newly possible opportunities, people saw greater advantage in separation or rotation than they had in the past tripartite(deflationary) and binary(conflationary) orders. As such they changed their arguments from the GOOD AND MORAL, reasons to ally, to the BAD AND IMMORAL reasons to either rotate (and capture capital) or separate (and divide capital).

    5) The upper class conviction of the morality of the Tripartite (binary) structure of social orders was argued as myth, but was actually simply a law of nature (Pareto). The oppression myth (Abrahamism) and gullibility in the service of ambitious members of the middle classes, gave the lower classes the various middle class enlightenment fantasies then working class marxist fantasies: that rotation was possible because people had been oppressed. When in fact that people had been incrementally domesticated by peoples who were demonstrably superior in abilities to create families of individuals that could survive the competition of the various markets, ranging from survival to power.

    6) Given that this inescapable hierarchy exists among peoples, and given that different peoples from different regions consist of different distributions of low and high abilities, and given the universal demonstration of kin selection in problems of access to power to determine the production and distribution of commons, and therefore the transfer of wealth from more productive to less productive (and therefore dysgenic) in reversal of the transfer of wealth from the less productive (labor) to the more productive (middle and therefore eugenic), the peoples who are productive and their elites who choose commons in favor of their productivity are no longer finding utility in cooperation and scale, because they would be reduced to lower status without the elites forming beneficial commons and containing their proceeds to kin.

    Meanwhile those who are ascendent but not competitive want to displace those productive people and their productive order, and impose one that is in their favor.

    7) So what we have seen is the incremental dissolution of the via-positiva of the value of scale, and its replacement with the incremental construction of kinship lines for the purpose of preserving the advantages for the average and lower folk who, because of culture and demographic distribution, benefit when their elites are in control, and they are not parasited upon by others. So in reversal of Abrahamic revolt against aristocracy, people are simply working to capture what they can for their races, cultures, tribes and clans.

    8) There is a difference between justifying takings (conquest), and justifying takings in the absence of not taking (reciprocity). So there are four positions: i) conquer and preserve (conservatives), ii) conquer and rotate (leftists), iii) separate (nationalists), iv) sit it out.(libertarians and uncommitted).

    9) So those people that will NOT benefit from the conquest of their social and political orders and the commons advantageous to them, are in competition with those people what WILL benefit from the conquest of the existing social and political order and the commons advantageous to them. And some people are wealthy and comfortable enough that they will simply sit out the war.

    10) From this understanding, no one is ‘thinking, or reasoning’ at all. Everyone is following his genetic interests just as evolution demands, and merely looking for excuses to justify his evolutionary demands. We are but riders on the elephant.

    Ergo, all invention is but excuse-making on the part of genes. And this is really the most important rule of the evolution of knowledge that we can state. These excuses reduce or increase the friction of reorganization in pursuit of genetic advantage. Just as politics and war are just excuses that reduce or increase the friction of reorganization in pursuit of seizing genetic opportunity. (as it must be for life to survive).

    11) The only reciprocal solution that I can identify is separatism, by which each kin group pays the cost of domesticating its kin group.

    12) I find very little material differences between the abilities of the different races, subraces and tribes that is not a function of (a) scale of the underclass (the mean), (b) degree of neoteny, (c) the success in neoteny of preserving the female verbal skill and distributing it to both genders, even at the expense of the male spatial skill. As far as I know these three simple traits determine the fate of a people.

    -Peak Human-

    13) There is a point – and we are at it – where there is no longer any ‘reserve’ in the human genome that is left untapped. In fact, I think we are currently engaged in hyperconsumption of our abilities to deliterious effects. LIke transferring war from violence to economics, we have transferred physical stress into mental stress. WE now have illnesses of the mind, as we had previously illnesses of the body.

    The human body cannot evolve fast enough to compensate for the rate of adaptation of the mind and therefore our actions, and therefore our social orders. We have maximized the available resource of the existing human body.

    14) So just as in knowledge of all things we are no longer looking for new categories, but simply seeking the reduction and elimination of error made possible by the evolution of the human mind as a tool for negotiation and deception more so than truthfulness (correspondence with reality) – we are now seeking to reduce parasitism in our social orders because no more improvements can be made by scale, and therefore all advantages come from the elimination of disadvantages.

    15) Therefore the solution to harmony is via negativa: the continued reversal of the value of scale, and the restoration of nations.

    -Let Us All Bloom-

    16) Let a thousand nations bloom. Let us all transcend at no one’s expense. Rather than justify the transcendence of some over that of others.

    17) Or worse, justify the devolution of mankind altogether. Which seems to be the consequence of unlimited cooperation: All of Hinduism, All of Islam, All of South Amerindians. The scale of the underclass is now so great that the productivity of the people is insufficient for the production of incentives necessary for the formation of a voluntary organization of production (markets).

    18) The bottom is too heavy. Malthus was wrong. It is not that the numbers will defeat us. It is that the numbers of those lacking agency will defeat us because the cost of their transformation from animal to man is simply too high for the productivity available to them in the absence of technology and markets produced externally to them.

    This is the principal problem facing man.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev Ukraine.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-12 08:54:00 UTC

  • WHAT DID THE FOUNDING FATHERS SOUND LIKE? (Not that different from you really.)

    WHAT DID THE FOUNDING FATHERS SOUND LIKE?

    (Not that different from you really.)

    Um. Well, you know, this is one of those questions of degree of precision. And I’m going to answer in my best degree of precision.

    But let’s get a few things straight.

    1) “Faggy British English Pronunciation” is a fabrication of the 19th century, just like “Faggy french court pronunciation” is a total fabrication of the 17/18th. We have records of the transformation, and how and why it was done. (signaling). Americans tried ‘Mid Atlantic’ pronunciation for the same reasons in the early 20th century.

    2) If you listen to a middle class Scott, (not working class) it is about as accurate a living example of the common ancestor of British and American English pronunciation. I would venture that your ability to distinguish one of the founding fathers from an educated scott would be limited to the degree of “rhrotic?” (pronunciation of the ‘r’ sound). There is an archive online of world accents. In at least germanic languages, as intelligence, class, and status increases, people substitute articulate vocabulary for melodic loading, and soften the ‘hard’ sounds. Languages evolve under urban use along predictable lines.

    3) As I’ve stated before, as far as I know, the Germans, making the majority of the white population, principally farmers, probably caused a further flattening of tonality. And it’s this flattened tonality, that affected the original ‘scotts/irish’ (or what is really old english) pronunciation.

    4) Americans sound a lot more like founding fathers than the brits do. Our language is changing very fast right now as well.

    5) I am not sure how southern drawl evolved from and I haven’t looked at it in any depth. My undrestanding is that the settlers were from the lower classes and it evolved from that where the more northern peoples tended to be from the middle, upper middle and upper classes and their language evolved from that. I can’t really say anything better informed.

    I would love to be corrected but this is the state of my knowledge.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-11 14:43:00 UTC

  • RUSSIA/UKRAINE: YOU DON’T NEED TO BE CONFUSED A 6th Grade Explanation of Russia

    RUSSIA/UKRAINE: YOU DON’T NEED TO BE CONFUSED

    A 6th Grade Explanation of Russia vs Ukraine.

    0) An early baltic trade route city of Novgorod was one of the early large cities in europe. This city was conquered, and then conquered the southern (Ukrainian) city of kiev, creating the Kievan Rus, and forming the basis of the eastern slavic civilization. The mongols conquered Kiev, destroyed it, and for the next seven hundred years, she was a protectorate (serfdom) of everyone from the Duchy of moscow to the lithuanians to the poles. And during the Russian industrial revolution kiev prospered. The west of ukraine was germanized under the Autrian-Hungarian empire. Particularly Lviv (the territory called ‘Galacia’ today. Photos from the 1800’s and pre-soviet era of Lviv and Kiev show a beautiful happy prosperous people looking quite indistinguishable from Americans and less urbanized germans. As the mongols weakened the grand Duchy of moscow succeeded in taking over the empire of the golden horde (mongols). And unfortunately for everyone involved, this included destroying novgorod and its culture. Most russian expansion has been good to the north, south, and east, into more primitive territories, but tragic for everything west of moscow into more civilized regions – in many cases setting back civilization for more than a hundred years. And by importing a peasant underclass, and occupying Koenigsberg into the eastern baltic, the damage may never be repaired.

    Now let’s move forward:

    1) Under the Soviets, Moscow forcibly relocated many russian peasants into central european nations because they were easier to control, because they had never had civilization like the polish, lithuanian, and austrian empires had provided to eastern europe.

    2) these people form a labor underclass, very much like moving black people into northern states from the south.

    3) The donbas river valley feeds into the black sea where russia hd it’s only warm water port in the conquered territory of Crimea.

    4) There is coal in the eastern ukrainian region surrounding the donbas valley.

    5) Russia build it’s primary military production facilities in the donbas valley near the coal and river, and used the relocated people for labor. Then expanded its Black Sea Fleet.

    6) To quell the rebellious Ukrainians, russia forced a genocide upon her starving and killing millions (a number which I find inestimable but is in the single digit millions somewhere). Then imposed military rule on Ukraine like it did everywhere else, and sent people to siberia and made people disappear in the night, and killed them if they could, and even did horrible nonsense like building tombs over existing ukrainian tombs. Prosecuting church goers, and all the other typical communist nonsense.

    7) The soviet political structure was very analogous to the previous political structure under the ‘nobility’ (russians had only the monarchy as german nobility, everyone else was a ‘boyar’ – predator. There is no history of Christian Monarch for the benefit of the people in Russia – other than perhaps Nicholas.)

    8) When the soviet union collapsed as it must from the combination of entrenched corruption and economic backwardness – and the forgotten but most important bit of knowledge: loss of craftsmanship (which you can see everywhere starting in the 50’s and 60’s and in the crumbling work of the 70’s) the heads of the Districts: Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, (I am not sure about Kazakhstan), basically got together and conspired to take over the government before all the gangsters (regional politicians) lost their ability to profit from the domination of the people.

    9) In the horrible 90’s all the people of the post soviet union suffered as not only did the central states collapse, and all teh government sponsored workforces and industries collapsed, but because the oligarchs (gangsters) stepped in (with corrupt officials) and just turned the russian empire into fucking criminal chaos. And if you can imagine being a teenager or in your early twenties and watching your civilization come to an horrific end, you can understand the current russian mind. “we can’t fucking let that shit happen again’”

    10) Now we can look at Russia, Eastern Russified Ukraine, and Western, Westernized ukraine.

    In Russia, (thankfully for russians) putin (who is imperfect, but a very smart man who loves and lives to serve his people) incrementally restored russian civilization. And it is very hard not to appreciate all he has done. And how wrong we have been most of the time for not understanding what he had done.

    If you were a worker in donbas – basically the soviet military industrial complex – and you were a laborer, or a miner, or – as the ukrainians will tell you in detail – a career criminal under the protection of the donbas region, you went into deep immediate poverty.

    THe city people (Kharkiv) slowly did fine. But the people from the industrial towns did not. They had nothing. And they looked across the border into russia where they would get pensions. (subsidies) and protection, and be in the majority.

    The rest of ukraine, particularly kiev and west, did two things: 1) everyone who had any skills left the country if at all possible, leaving no professional or middle class. 2) the remaining people, one generation from the farm, tried to exist on food from the village, and used the vacuum of departure as opportunities.

    The rest of ukraine, slowly did fine, (they are very poor). But they looked West into Poland, and saw the dramatic transformation of life in poland from poverty to plenty – leaving them behind.

    So ukraine was split like north and south were in the civil war, with a communist and criminal east, and liberal and middle-class envious west. And the voting records looked like two different countries. ( During the revolution, I watched ordinary people destroy the communist headquarters in Kiev, right around the corner from my house. )

    11) The right wing in russia wanted to restore the Soviet-now-Russian empire for very practical reasons: when the Soviets started, it took 250M people and 4T to be a world power, and today it takes about 500M people and 10T dollars to survive as a world power. So russia cannot be a world power without her reliance upon resource revenues without it. And the right wing cannot fulfill the Russian Mission as the Center of a Restored Orthodox Civilization (including Constantinople if not all of Turkey, and the caucuses. (we were wrong to stop the russian from taking the black sea territories and restoring orthodox civilization, and russia was wrong to expand into (more developed) germanic/slavic lands.

    12) The russians cannot employ maneuver warfare like the west can (low trust peoples have this problem) so their strategy is always to wait on a border for an opportunity because of weakness (like the muslims do) and the seize it. And the russian economy was too weak to absorb both Belarus and Ukraine as well as the Caucuses. (20 years from now that will not be the case, and russians are patient warriors). But the russian general staff (all major militaries have general staffs that produce plans) developed an emergency plan for the retaking of ukraine and this was refreshed (updated) in the summer of 2013 (as far as I know).In the interim, (as putin has described I believe) they bought off the president of Ukraine (a criminal tyrant if there ever was one), who incrementally defunded the military, and stole billions from the people (I watched his presidential plane on radar fly from Kiev to Dubai Airport on the night he left – they left the transponder on the entire way.)

    13) the people are fully aware of their condition, and their poverty, because they look across the borders. Russia funds the separatists, and kiev cannot lose access to the black sea, and is fearful if they give up an inch of territory this will only justify the russian aggression against them. So sentiments against russia made a NATION out of ukrainians. So a people who had lost their identity now have one. But just as TURKEY is a torn state (in three pieces) ukraine is a torn state between a “sliver actually” russified east, and a european west. With kiev as the border between the two sets of influences. Realistically you can ‘feel’ that you’re leaving europe when you’re about an hour or two east of L’viv and you move from the rolling forested hills of europe onto the ukrainian-southern-russian plain, just as you can when you drive into nebraska heading west in the states.

    So the answer is that ukraine is two different countries: a small russian-conquered east, and a majority ukrainian-polish west, and until the strategic problem for russia is solved (access to ports in the black sea, and western ‘permission’ to fuflill her destiny as restoring constantinople, the problem cannot be resolved to everyone’s satisfaction.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-11 14:16:00 UTC