Oct 8, 2019, 3:04 PM (reply to a hostile christian) Gunther; We are working on the development of a value free language of the human sciences, psychological, social, economic, political and strategic; articulating the western group evolutionary strategy in those terms; and producing a constitution in those terms, imposing that strategy, against the second abrahamic attack on civilization – the cause of the dark ages of ignorance in the past, and the cause of the coming dark ages in the present. You are an Abrahamist, trained by Abrahamists, to avoid the truth, by employing the female system of competition by undermining demanding that others agree with you, demonstrating disapproval rather than truth or falsehood, using disapproval, ridicule, moralizing; threatening to gossip and rally others, in defense of a superstition. You are cognitively feminine in a masculine body and addicted to the sedation provided by falsehood. You lack agency, and truth regardless of cost, and respect for our sovereignty, and are not a european male – and are rather unfit for this level of discourse for the same reason all but a few women are unfit for truthful masculine discourse. You need someone to confirm your comforting lies. To preserve your feeling of safety in the herd. You need to find that person. Others will provide you with that sedation. There are psychological drug dealers everywhere. You will eventually find some psychological drug dealer that proposes a possible solution for reformation of the country on terms you can tolerate because they don’t threaten the supply of sedation your addiction demands. When you are a man, if it is still possible, then join the conversation of men. Until then you are unfit. Addicts have no place in the world because it exists to prevent reality. Fictional Religion, alcohol, drugs are all forms of escape and sedation. We are men. We solve problems. You can’t. Reality does not exist for you.
Theme: Truth
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Yes You Are Unfit for Truth Regardless of Cost.
Oct 8, 2019, 3:04 PM (reply to a hostile christian) Gunther; We are working on the development of a value free language of the human sciences, psychological, social, economic, political and strategic; articulating the western group evolutionary strategy in those terms; and producing a constitution in those terms, imposing that strategy, against the second abrahamic attack on civilization – the cause of the dark ages of ignorance in the past, and the cause of the coming dark ages in the present. You are an Abrahamist, trained by Abrahamists, to avoid the truth, by employing the female system of competition by undermining demanding that others agree with you, demonstrating disapproval rather than truth or falsehood, using disapproval, ridicule, moralizing; threatening to gossip and rally others, in defense of a superstition. You are cognitively feminine in a masculine body and addicted to the sedation provided by falsehood. You lack agency, and truth regardless of cost, and respect for our sovereignty, and are not a european male – and are rather unfit for this level of discourse for the same reason all but a few women are unfit for truthful masculine discourse. You need someone to confirm your comforting lies. To preserve your feeling of safety in the herd. You need to find that person. Others will provide you with that sedation. There are psychological drug dealers everywhere. You will eventually find some psychological drug dealer that proposes a possible solution for reformation of the country on terms you can tolerate because they don’t threaten the supply of sedation your addiction demands. When you are a man, if it is still possible, then join the conversation of men. Until then you are unfit. Addicts have no place in the world because it exists to prevent reality. Fictional Religion, alcohol, drugs are all forms of escape and sedation. We are men. We solve problems. You can’t. Reality does not exist for you.
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Propertarianism is a system for all peoples
Propertarianism is a system for all peoples. https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/27/propertarianism-is-a-system-for-all-peoples/
Source date (UTC): 2020-05-27 17:56:36 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265703466590261249
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Propertarianism is a system for all peoples.
Oct 9, 2019, 12:10 PM
Propertarianism is a system for all peoples. Let a thousand nations bloom. Every man a sheriff. No more lies.–Ryan Drummond
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Propertarianism is a system for all peoples.
Oct 9, 2019, 12:10 PM
Propertarianism is a system for all peoples. Let a thousand nations bloom. Every man a sheriff. No more lies.–Ryan Drummond
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Why Is Debating Against P so Unpleasant?
Oct 11, 2019, 11:58 AM Listening to EMJ debate Dutton and Recognizing the profound difference between Argument and Error, vs Prosecution and Lying. So the reason it’s so painful for others to argue with us, is that if you use operational terms you can’t testify to something you claim you can, then you’re lying or engaging in fraud, while if you’re argument in ideal language instead of operational, you’re just making an error. This is why people hate arguing with us. That not only do we eliminate the ability to engage in sophism, but we don’t call it error, we call it lying, fraud, and deceit.
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Why Is Debating Against P so Unpleasant?
Oct 11, 2019, 11:58 AM Listening to EMJ debate Dutton and Recognizing the profound difference between Argument and Error, vs Prosecution and Lying. So the reason it’s so painful for others to argue with us, is that if you use operational terms you can’t testify to something you claim you can, then you’re lying or engaging in fraud, while if you’re argument in ideal language instead of operational, you’re just making an error. This is why people hate arguing with us. That not only do we eliminate the ability to engage in sophism, but we don’t call it error, we call it lying, fraud, and deceit.
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My Position on Christianity
Oct 12, 2019, 11:12 AM (core)(important) To John’s explanation, I’ll add this: 1. SUPPRESSION OF FALSEHOOD AND ITS CONSEQUENCES – My work has a nearly single minded objective, and that ending lying in public speech. So, I’m not complaining about just christianity, but the falsehoods by which the abrahamic religions are constructed, the means of conveying those falsehoods, the consequences of teaching christians how to lie using the abrahamic method, and the consequences of christians lying using the abrahamic method, that makes the entire polity vulnerable to marxist, feminine, postmodern pseudoscience, sophism and denial, just as christianity judaism and islam were spread by supernaturalism, sophism, and denial of reality. As such my objective is the opposite of Augustine and Aquinas, which is to integrate greek reason into christianity on supernatural terms, and instead integrate christianity into western science and reason on scientific terms.
- A POLITICAL RELIGION – Christianity, when expressed in secular scientific terms, is in fact an optimum SOCIAL and adequate PERSONAL religion even if it is not an optimum POLITICAL religion -which is why it failed to achieve what islam and judaism did, and why it has declined rapidly in the modern era. My goal is to license political religion so that we cannot be undermined again.
RESTORING A STATE RELIGION TO EXCLUDE OTHERS – I’m trying to discover a way to make christianity a state religion by converting it to secular terms – this is possible because christianity and only christianity among the abrahamic religions is compatible with natural law. Christians despise the fact that the lessons of christianity in scientific terms, are optimum strategies for social cooperation at least at interpersonal scale. Because the magic and ‘woo woo’ is lost by doing so restoring dependence upon reason, instead of allowing us to fall into pacifist intuition where we can abandon reason. (which is why religions work to sedate humans.) So over the long term I work to produce a christian law that is inviolate, like sharia, so to speak, from the natural law, and the christian extension of the natural law, by the exhaustion of forgiveness before retaliation or prosecution.
RESTORING THE BALANCE OF POWERS – If I can convert Christianity to secular terms I can restore the church as the political agency responsible for the individual and family, limiting the government to the material, and restore competition between family-church and commerce-government, and military-state. It is this division and competition i’m seeking to restore. (I don’t tell you these things because they taint the audience by letting them know my purposes. I only explain afterward, so that my attacks on any given subject make sense in retrospect. In other words, I’m a scientist. I run tests. The public willing to engage in intellectually honest discourse serves as my testing laboratory.)
MULTIPLE CLASSES MULTIPLE RELIGIONS, SAME MESSAGE – All religions are class religions. Westerners practice a personal religion of Jesus (lower), a social religion of christianity (middle), an secular religion of philosophy (upper middle), a political religion of the law and the sciences that extend the law (upper). The Chinese have confucianism, the Dao, and buddhism, nationalism and familialism. Every culture other than judaism and islam have class religions. And we have and need our class religions.
MULTIPLE GENDERS: ADD MASCULINITY TO RELIGION – There are those of us for whom the philosophy of secular christianity – it’s cooperation – is merely valuable, but for whom our ancestors, culture, nation, civilization are more precious than the false promise of an evil semitic god. And so if we categorize heathenry as the thanks to nature not denial of it, and paganism as thanks to heroes of our history, and the archetypes that are non-submissive to nature and heroic in achievement rather than heroic in tolerance. So I am continuing my process of investigation into whether it is possible to unite these scientific, natural, and christian, traditions in a constitution, that prohibits competition by which to undermine them. And whether they can be practiced together or separately. So again, I see myself trying to unite western civilization against further destruction. And I am doing so by the same means as did those great men who came before me, in every great time of change.
There is a deep method to the appearance of my madness. Do not assume you grasp what I am doing. Much of what I do requires I maintain your ignorance of what I am doing, in order to ensure I collect quality information from the population. This is how all behavioral science must be conducted. And it’s how I conduct it.
- Curt
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My Position on Christianity
Oct 12, 2019, 11:12 AM (core)(important) To John’s explanation, I’ll add this: 1. SUPPRESSION OF FALSEHOOD AND ITS CONSEQUENCES – My work has a nearly single minded objective, and that ending lying in public speech. So, I’m not complaining about just christianity, but the falsehoods by which the abrahamic religions are constructed, the means of conveying those falsehoods, the consequences of teaching christians how to lie using the abrahamic method, and the consequences of christians lying using the abrahamic method, that makes the entire polity vulnerable to marxist, feminine, postmodern pseudoscience, sophism and denial, just as christianity judaism and islam were spread by supernaturalism, sophism, and denial of reality. As such my objective is the opposite of Augustine and Aquinas, which is to integrate greek reason into christianity on supernatural terms, and instead integrate christianity into western science and reason on scientific terms.
- A POLITICAL RELIGION – Christianity, when expressed in secular scientific terms, is in fact an optimum SOCIAL and adequate PERSONAL religion even if it is not an optimum POLITICAL religion -which is why it failed to achieve what islam and judaism did, and why it has declined rapidly in the modern era. My goal is to license political religion so that we cannot be undermined again.
RESTORING A STATE RELIGION TO EXCLUDE OTHERS – I’m trying to discover a way to make christianity a state religion by converting it to secular terms – this is possible because christianity and only christianity among the abrahamic religions is compatible with natural law. Christians despise the fact that the lessons of christianity in scientific terms, are optimum strategies for social cooperation at least at interpersonal scale. Because the magic and ‘woo woo’ is lost by doing so restoring dependence upon reason, instead of allowing us to fall into pacifist intuition where we can abandon reason. (which is why religions work to sedate humans.) So over the long term I work to produce a christian law that is inviolate, like sharia, so to speak, from the natural law, and the christian extension of the natural law, by the exhaustion of forgiveness before retaliation or prosecution.
RESTORING THE BALANCE OF POWERS – If I can convert Christianity to secular terms I can restore the church as the political agency responsible for the individual and family, limiting the government to the material, and restore competition between family-church and commerce-government, and military-state. It is this division and competition i’m seeking to restore. (I don’t tell you these things because they taint the audience by letting them know my purposes. I only explain afterward, so that my attacks on any given subject make sense in retrospect. In other words, I’m a scientist. I run tests. The public willing to engage in intellectually honest discourse serves as my testing laboratory.)
MULTIPLE CLASSES MULTIPLE RELIGIONS, SAME MESSAGE – All religions are class religions. Westerners practice a personal religion of Jesus (lower), a social religion of christianity (middle), an secular religion of philosophy (upper middle), a political religion of the law and the sciences that extend the law (upper). The Chinese have confucianism, the Dao, and buddhism, nationalism and familialism. Every culture other than judaism and islam have class religions. And we have and need our class religions.
MULTIPLE GENDERS: ADD MASCULINITY TO RELIGION – There are those of us for whom the philosophy of secular christianity – it’s cooperation – is merely valuable, but for whom our ancestors, culture, nation, civilization are more precious than the false promise of an evil semitic god. And so if we categorize heathenry as the thanks to nature not denial of it, and paganism as thanks to heroes of our history, and the archetypes that are non-submissive to nature and heroic in achievement rather than heroic in tolerance. So I am continuing my process of investigation into whether it is possible to unite these scientific, natural, and christian, traditions in a constitution, that prohibits competition by which to undermine them. And whether they can be practiced together or separately. So again, I see myself trying to unite western civilization against further destruction. And I am doing so by the same means as did those great men who came before me, in every great time of change.
There is a deep method to the appearance of my madness. Do not assume you grasp what I am doing. Much of what I do requires I maintain your ignorance of what I am doing, in order to ensure I collect quality information from the population. This is how all behavioral science must be conducted. And it’s how I conduct it.
- Curt
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The Meaning of All Men Are Created Equal
Oct 12, 2019, 11:23 AM ”…Created equal …” is an incomplete sentence. In P this would have to be a complete sentence. “…. are created by nature, equal before the laws of nature and the natural law of reciprocity.” It’s just poetic. And they use property or tort rather than reciprocity. ” … associated …” doesn’t mean anything. I can gossip and spread a rumor about you, and cause people to associate you with something negative. “… aristocracy..” meant and means rule by the best, in other words, meritocracy, demonstrated by military defense, achievement of wealth, and contribution to the political government of the polity. Truth will bring meritocracy. If we produce families producing consistent meritocracy over generations we will produce nobility. If we produce a government by people from that nobility, we will produce an aristocracy. If that hierarchy of merit is defended by rule of law by sovereignty and reciprocity, by universal standing in matters of the commons, then it is very hard for aristocracy to survive without in fact surviving on meritocracy. Same goes for entrepreneurs today. The problem was removing the requirement that one demonstrate meritocracy in order to participate in government., We call this error the universal franchise. But that was a mistake. Furthermore, instead of the aristocracy producing policy and the government acting as a jury, and the bureaucracy enforcing it, we gave the decision to the government and removed the veto of the aristocracy. That’s the problem. Demonstrated excellence is the only test of merit.