There is a difference between a cost of entry into a religion and the content of the falsehoods in the religion. Many cults do not ask us to pay physical costs, but to deny reality as the cost of entry. In fact, is that not the entire premise of the monotheistic religions? The price of entry is faith in falsehood? A cost of non-correspondence with reality? The signal of trustworthiness to others is the likewise denial? The shared lie? There exist amazing cults (stoicism), questionable cults (Buddhism), ignorance creating cults (Christianity and Islam), immorality creating cults (Judaism), and even worse cults that teach even worse lies. There is no need for lies. History, myth, man, and nature are beauty enough and wonder enough without the need for lies.
Theme: Truth
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Religion Has No Need Of Lies
There is a difference between a cost of entry into a religion and the content of the falsehoods in the religion. Many cults do not ask us to pay physical costs, but to deny reality as the cost of entry. In fact, is that not the entire premise of the monotheistic religions? The price of entry is faith in falsehood? A cost of non-correspondence with reality? The signal of trustworthiness to others is the likewise denial? The shared lie? There exist amazing cults (stoicism), questionable cults (Buddhism), ignorance creating cults (Christianity and Islam), immorality creating cults (Judaism), and even worse cults that teach even worse lies. There is no need for lies. History, myth, man, and nature are beauty enough and wonder enough without the need for lies.
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TRUTH AND THE MONEY-SCALE PUZZLE —“The only statement you can construct that’s
TRUTH AND THE MONEY-SCALE PUZZLE
—“The only statement you can construct that’s true, but not ‘useful’ would be by defining ‘useful’ in a highly narrow sense of ‘useful to higher order consciousness functions’.
But, you have only practical, not epistemological reason for doing that: the fullness of your mind needs these basic perceptual constructions.
For everything else you write about epistemology, I continue to be surprised you don’t understand why truth must be only intersubjective experience. How could it be otherwise?”—
It’s easiest to describe as an analogy to the coins-and-scale problem of finding the oddly weighted coin.
Most people do not consider that there are there conditions: the left side, the right side, and the table in front of the scale.
So when someone says ‘intersubjectively’ anything I’m never sure if they are referring to imaginary (two sides of the scale), or correspondent (two sides of subjective value plus the objective reality they are both testing against.
So while the utility may possess subjective value, correspondence is still simply true or false.
It may be true that we only care about useful truths in the positive sense.
But we also care about intersubjectively erroneous judgements which we resolve by objective truth.
This is why I always ask for both sides of the question, instead of the ideal type of utility (seizure of opportunities).
Truth and falsehood may help us get what we want: to cooperate.
Truth allows us to decide conflicts: non-cooperation.
Since the central problem of our age is DISPUTE, I am not looking for consensus by preference or utility but for means of resolving these disputes regardless of intersubjective valuations.
So it’s not that I don’t understand. It’s that I understand the full accounting of the question, rather than just the partial accounting of utility in matters of cooperation.
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-27 12:42:00 UTC
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(worth repeating) 1) SOVEREIGNTY (leads to) 2) PROPERTY IN TOTO (leads to) 3) TE
(worth repeating)
1) SOVEREIGNTY (leads to)
2) PROPERTY IN TOTO (leads to)
3) TESTIMONIAL TRUTH (leads to)
4) DEFLATIONARY/DECONFLATIONARY, (leads to)
5) REASON, RATIONALISM, EMPIRICISM, TESTIMONIALISM (leads to)
6) MARKETS IN EVERYTHING, (leads to)
7) DEFEATING THE RED QUEEN (leads to)
6) TRANSCENDENCE.
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-27 11:30:00 UTC
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Throughout human history we have been more concerned with what is useful than wh
Throughout human history we have been more concerned with what is useful than what is true. The scale of modernity w/ science reversed this.
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-27 11:15:00 UTC
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Funny. i thought it was the search for truth
Funny. i thought it was the search for truth.
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-27 08:55:27 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/802797978129985536
Reply addressees: @digitalErmit @VonMacht @Salon
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/802746388622835714
IN REPLY TO:
@digitalErmit
@curtdoolittle @VonMacht @Salon I think that’s all the purpose of philosophy. Forgetting about our limits is to be a danger to ourselves.
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/802746388622835714
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STOP LYING AND BUILD AN ECONOMY AND RULE OF LAW
STOP LYING AND BUILD AN ECONOMY AND RULE OF LAW.
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-27 02:41:29 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/802703862587150336
Reply addressees: @GorskyDmitry @nntaleb @FamesBlond @RT_com
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/802617690800136194
IN REPLY TO:
Unknown author
@GorskyDmitry @nntaleb @FamesBlond @RT_com Then Pay for it rather than cause a war, break the postwar consensus, break peace of westphalia.
Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/802617690800136194
IN REPLY TO:
@curtdoolittle
@GorskyDmitry @nntaleb @FamesBlond @RT_com Then Pay for it rather than cause a war, break the postwar consensus, break peace of westphalia.
Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/802617690800136194
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And they are all predicated on a small number of systemic falsehoods
And they are all predicated on a small number of systemic falsehoods.
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-27 02:34:32 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/802702114698821632
Reply addressees: @GorskyDmitry @nntaleb @FamesBlond @RT_com
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/802617690800136194
IN REPLY TO:
Unknown author
@GorskyDmitry @nntaleb @FamesBlond @RT_com Then Pay for it rather than cause a war, break the postwar consensus, break peace of westphalia.
Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/802617690800136194
IN REPLY TO:
@curtdoolittle
@GorskyDmitry @nntaleb @FamesBlond @RT_com Then Pay for it rather than cause a war, break the postwar consensus, break peace of westphalia.
Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/802617690800136194
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Aphorisms on Religion
(November 17, 2016) No reason not to outlaw anything false: religion, pseudo-rationalism, pseudoscience. There’s no value in fraudulent products, services OR information. Assuming you teach Christianity as myth rather than history, by and large it’s compatible with natural law. But not judaism. And not Islam. We cannot control what nonsense you believe but we certainly can limit what nonsense you distribute. There is a great difference between establishing a religion and banning a religion. There is no reason we do not ban religions – frequently. Sorry but if your religion isn’t compatible with natural law, then it’s not compatible with rule of law, and not compatible with the west.
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Aphorisms on Religion
(November 17, 2016) No reason not to outlaw anything false: religion, pseudo-rationalism, pseudoscience. There’s no value in fraudulent products, services OR information. Assuming you teach Christianity as myth rather than history, by and large it’s compatible with natural law. But not judaism. And not Islam. We cannot control what nonsense you believe but we certainly can limit what nonsense you distribute. There is a great difference between establishing a religion and banning a religion. There is no reason we do not ban religions – frequently. Sorry but if your religion isn’t compatible with natural law, then it’s not compatible with rule of law, and not compatible with the west.