—“It’s amazing how upset people can get when you tell them we know what makes christianity good and what makes christianity bad and that we want to get rid of the bad. the whole “christianity is perfection, man is the problem” frame of mind, I understand… however… it traps you with an intuitive argument. and we know intuition readily protects falsehoods.”—Micah Pezdirtz
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-26 09:06:00 UTC
ENDING BROTHER WARS
by Bill Joslin
hmmmm…. I thought the whole point of highlighting the lies of Abrahamism was to forever eradicate pitting brothers against each other over religion.
My stance, not that it matters, hinges on the private-public distinction. I don’t care, nor do I proclaim to have authority over what others think or believe in the private sphere. If you want to hold metaphor or allegory as real then I say have at’er- not my business, nor does it impose costs on me if you choose to do so. Further to that, I wouldn’t fault a man for doing so.
However, within the public sphere, these claims will be held to account – FULL ACCOUNT – including, but not limited to, the false claims that Christianity is the essential component to western thriving – it’s simply not. Western thriving did not occur until law and governance were abstracted away from religion into their own respective institutions…
So here’s the deal – until the religious begin reporting truthfully in the public sphere or keep their private assertions private or qualify their public statements about private beliefs; we will continue to prosecute publicly…. that’s all that is going on here – prosecution of public lies – prosecution of private-public conflations.
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-26 09:04:00 UTC
(Religion does it every time.)
The following people are no longer in your Friends List:
— Dan Verner
— James Wing
— Andrew Lesyuk
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-26 01:41:31 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1066869527181443072
IT CAN MAKE YOU ANGRY
—“It’s been a rough few months for me, as I grapple with the difficulties of shedding an indifferent religious upbringing and serious religious commitment in adulthood. Right now I’m angry. I hate that Augustine and Aquinas wasted their minds on nonsense. I think Thomas would have completed propertarianism 800 years ago, but here we are.”—Ryan Williams
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Source date (UTC): 2018-11-25 22:54:00 UTC
(Religion does it every time.)
The following people are no longer in your Friends List:
— Dan Verner
— James Wing
— Andrew Lesyuk
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-25 20:41:00 UTC
(worth repeating)
—As members of cults we are always in conflict over the legal systems under them, since those legal systems are arbitrary means of advocating different group evolutionary strategies of cooperation – all of which, under religion, despite their early utility, evolved to be more hinderance than good.
As member of the Love of Man, of our Peoples, In nation-states, producing commons suitable to our needs, we are not enemies but allies in a division of labor producing the transcendence of man.
If there is a better religion than that I do not know what it is.
But it is the one I am proposing.
A religion of the love and transcendence of man into gods, not into the subjects of priests and politicians, investors and industrialists.—
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-25 20:11:00 UTC
SORRY GUYS, DOIN’ MY JOB
—“…Stop talking about fucking religion all the time and get back to strategizing against the neoliberal world order and promoting anti-poz behavior.”—Dylan Newman
Sorry man. I’m working on the constitution and it’s statements on religion so I had to test some ideas. I should be done and will move on again shortly.
I got stuck on the debt-creation concept a few weeks ago and only felt I got my arms around it in the past week.
Working through that problem meant trying a lot of arguments from a lot of angles. And this forum is where I run experiments, and people try to refute them, and I learn from that ‘market’ activity.
Doing my job. It’s part of the job.
That said, I am profoundly proud of working through the problem of religion. It is the hard problem of social science.
And worse, like Truth Telling, it is EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE to produce a good religion and extremely cheap to produce a bad one. Law and Markets are trivial achievements by comparison.
Cheers.
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-25 20:08:00 UTC
—“…Have you considered debating Curt Doolittle?”—
I don’t waste time on the Three Great Fictionalisms of (a) faith (supernaturalism), (b) sophism (idealism) (c) pseudoscience, and I don’t make pragmatic excuses for them either. I spend my time on Education, Literature, History, Economics, Law, Science, Logics, and Mathematics.
(not worth my time)
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-25 19:22:00 UTC
THE HAPPY CHRISTIAN TROPE IS TRUE
Mindfulness breeds happiness and christianity produces one of the optimum forms of mindfulness – at the cost of being vulnerable to hostile cultures.
The general argument that christians place more investment in the family and atheists more in the self is impossible to refute. This may also be affected by the sortition of post 1960’s delayed marriage, and the pairing off of people who both have education and career and hyper consume rather than a man who produces and a woman who reproduces.
The fact that christians are happier, breed faster, and are less political, is simply consistent over time.
The family is the optimum unit of production of generations and the state is terrible at it, favoring instead the individual over the family producing the hyperconsumption and hollowing out of the middle of the population that must both produce and reproduce, where the underclass only reproduces and the upper classes only produce thereby destroying not only the familiy, and the genome, but the civilization itself.
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-25 17:33:00 UTC
I WILL EVENTUALLY OFFEND YOU
Religion is “The Hard Problem Of Social Science”. It took me longer than any other problem in social science, science proper, grammars, and logic.
But in the end, like all problems, it was a solvable problem. And it makes everyone – including the atheists, the marxist-postmodernist-feminists, the abrahamists, and the rest of the world religions unhappy.
There are very few of us who are fit to practice The Law, because there are few of us for whom the Truth is emotionally and intellectually tolerable – those of us with agency can be produced easily enough, but there are few of us who possess the facility by accident of circumstance in combination with our natures.
We all have cherished falsehoods and lies that we have invested in. The truth is undesirable or we would not require it.
It is the ultimate test of character: Can You Face The Truth?
If you cannot face the truth, but can be a moral man, then that is Fine. But you may not serve as a Judge of the Law, or Juror of its violation. If you both cannot face the truth, and you cannot be a moral man, then we those who are moral will challenge you under the law, and those of us who can face the truth shall prosecute and convict you under it.
As members of cults we are always in conflict over the legal systems under them, since those legal systems are arbitrary means of advocating different group evolutionary strategies of cooperation – all of which, under religion, despite their early utility, evolved to be more hinderance than good.
As member of the Love of Man, of our Peoples, In nation-states, producing commons suitable to our needs, we are not enemies but allies in a division of labor producing the transcendence of man.
If there is a better religion than that I do not know what it is.
But it is the one I am proposing.
A religion of the love and transcendence of man into gods, not into the subjects of priests and politicians, investors and industrialists.
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-25 17:30:00 UTC