Theme: Religion

  • Another Criticism in Response to My Letter to Christians

    Nov 19, 2019, 7:26 PM ANOTHER CRITICISM IN RESPONSE TO MY LETTER TO CHRISTIANS A “proof” of possibility of construction is detailed for a reason. —“I understand that you are unable to form concepts into abstractions, so you can only go into concepts in total detail. However you don’t speak or understand any truth. All you do is break down the informational contend of concepts, however you do so using dialectic, making these concept much harder for people to understand. You take the simple concept and make it incredibly complex. You think this makes you smart but it doesn’t, it means you are above average intelligence, but not highly intelligent. So you can find the concepts, but not build an abstraction from them. This is why you have a small internet following and you write overly detailed complex books, videos and articles. I hope you can close the gaps within your mind between the truth and reality of your life, so you can live a happier and more fulfilled life. Rather than wasting your life continuum on breaking concepts down into information content.”— John Best What is it that you think my job is? That’s analogous to saying that macroeconomics, microbiology, chemistry, and fundamental forces aren’t reducible to simplistic terms for simple people to grasp. Well, they require education. So does P-logic require education. And we are ‘educating’ the public as best we can, with a revolution on the scale of the Aristotelian, Empirical, and Darwinian. As for detail, I have a higher resolution understanding (model) of the world, in more precise terms, and in more simultaneous information. And that level of detail is necessary to explain the CAUSALITY of psychological social and political phenomena. It’s one thing to try to come up with yet another non-sense-ism ideology, and something else to complete the aristotelian program, provide wilson’s synthesis, and convert man’s traditional empathic moralizing into a science expressible in value neutral language. So Aristotle had a hard time, Smith and Hume had a hard time, Darwin did, and I’m having a hard time. And arguably it takes a century or more for these ideas to launch. The average idiot still thinks arguments can be ‘proven’, evolution has a direction or intent, and production is a fixed-pie. Mathematics, geometry, calculus allow us to measure the world so that we err less, and have greater agency. P-Logic works just like mathematics, by breaking the world of psychological, social, and political concepts down into measurements (commensurability) so that we err less and have greater agency. One does not need to master higher mathematics to benefit from what those who do master it measure, comprehend, and discover. One needs only NOT claim that ‘because it’s hard it must be false’. Likewise, the fact that P-logic – like say, the calculus, or electromagnetic fields, or economic equilibria – formalizes psychology, sociology, politics and that the result is somewhat complicated as are the calculus, fields, economies, says nothing other than it explains why it has taken so long to discover that logic: it’s the hardest one so far to model. You almost certainly have not read either Menger, or Keynes’ General Theory, and probably not Darwin, or Hayek, Turing, or Chomsky’s short papers. I doubt you’ve read Kant, or Hume, or Smith. And I’m almost certain you don’t know the debate between Hilbert and Einstein or what they said and why … but you live a life constructed of their scribbles. It’s not important you understand the theory. it’s only important you understand the CONSEQUENCES of the application of the theory. If someone else had been able to do what I have, they would have. They haven’t. And so they haven’t been able to achieve in psychology, social science, politics what I have. And I have only because the internet is available and I have research from every discipline at my fingertips – so the ‘cost of production’ of synthesis (collapsing all disciplines into one language) has been reduced to zero. But in all previous generations, people like me didn’t have the internet so they couldn’t experiment with working in public. I’ve run the experiment. John is running the experiment with whether it’s possible to break these ideas down and communicate them to ordinary people. So far he does better than I imagined was possible. That said, he’s not trying to teach you how to define something like testimonial Parsimony as a supply-demand curve, or as we’re working on now, the economics expression of reciprocity and forbearance vs tolerance. I understand religion just fine. I understand that the church shut down Stoicism for one simple reason: it makes religion unnecessary. I understand why the left is shutting down rule of law: it makes politics unnecessary. I understand why the left – and the faithful – will try to shut down testimonialism: because it makes propaganda unnecessary. And without religion, politics, and propaganda necessary what use remains for lying. So please explain to me what I do not understand. Because so far, I have found very little in the mind of man that I cannot understand, and increasingly less I cannot convert into a formula. Perhaps you should find time to investigate what you do not understand – because there is something to be learned there. Instead of searching for what you do understand, in case an opportunity may be found there. If anything could be found in what has failed, men would have. There is a lot to be found in P.

  • Another Criticism in Response to My Letter to Christians

    Nov 19, 2019, 7:26 PM ANOTHER CRITICISM IN RESPONSE TO MY LETTER TO CHRISTIANS A “proof” of possibility of construction is detailed for a reason. —“I understand that you are unable to form concepts into abstractions, so you can only go into concepts in total detail. However you don’t speak or understand any truth. All you do is break down the informational contend of concepts, however you do so using dialectic, making these concept much harder for people to understand. You take the simple concept and make it incredibly complex. You think this makes you smart but it doesn’t, it means you are above average intelligence, but not highly intelligent. So you can find the concepts, but not build an abstraction from them. This is why you have a small internet following and you write overly detailed complex books, videos and articles. I hope you can close the gaps within your mind between the truth and reality of your life, so you can live a happier and more fulfilled life. Rather than wasting your life continuum on breaking concepts down into information content.”— John Best What is it that you think my job is? That’s analogous to saying that macroeconomics, microbiology, chemistry, and fundamental forces aren’t reducible to simplistic terms for simple people to grasp. Well, they require education. So does P-logic require education. And we are ‘educating’ the public as best we can, with a revolution on the scale of the Aristotelian, Empirical, and Darwinian. As for detail, I have a higher resolution understanding (model) of the world, in more precise terms, and in more simultaneous information. And that level of detail is necessary to explain the CAUSALITY of psychological social and political phenomena. It’s one thing to try to come up with yet another non-sense-ism ideology, and something else to complete the aristotelian program, provide wilson’s synthesis, and convert man’s traditional empathic moralizing into a science expressible in value neutral language. So Aristotle had a hard time, Smith and Hume had a hard time, Darwin did, and I’m having a hard time. And arguably it takes a century or more for these ideas to launch. The average idiot still thinks arguments can be ‘proven’, evolution has a direction or intent, and production is a fixed-pie. Mathematics, geometry, calculus allow us to measure the world so that we err less, and have greater agency. P-Logic works just like mathematics, by breaking the world of psychological, social, and political concepts down into measurements (commensurability) so that we err less and have greater agency. One does not need to master higher mathematics to benefit from what those who do master it measure, comprehend, and discover. One needs only NOT claim that ‘because it’s hard it must be false’. Likewise, the fact that P-logic – like say, the calculus, or electromagnetic fields, or economic equilibria – formalizes psychology, sociology, politics and that the result is somewhat complicated as are the calculus, fields, economies, says nothing other than it explains why it has taken so long to discover that logic: it’s the hardest one so far to model. You almost certainly have not read either Menger, or Keynes’ General Theory, and probably not Darwin, or Hayek, Turing, or Chomsky’s short papers. I doubt you’ve read Kant, or Hume, or Smith. And I’m almost certain you don’t know the debate between Hilbert and Einstein or what they said and why … but you live a life constructed of their scribbles. It’s not important you understand the theory. it’s only important you understand the CONSEQUENCES of the application of the theory. If someone else had been able to do what I have, they would have. They haven’t. And so they haven’t been able to achieve in psychology, social science, politics what I have. And I have only because the internet is available and I have research from every discipline at my fingertips – so the ‘cost of production’ of synthesis (collapsing all disciplines into one language) has been reduced to zero. But in all previous generations, people like me didn’t have the internet so they couldn’t experiment with working in public. I’ve run the experiment. John is running the experiment with whether it’s possible to break these ideas down and communicate them to ordinary people. So far he does better than I imagined was possible. That said, he’s not trying to teach you how to define something like testimonial Parsimony as a supply-demand curve, or as we’re working on now, the economics expression of reciprocity and forbearance vs tolerance. I understand religion just fine. I understand that the church shut down Stoicism for one simple reason: it makes religion unnecessary. I understand why the left is shutting down rule of law: it makes politics unnecessary. I understand why the left – and the faithful – will try to shut down testimonialism: because it makes propaganda unnecessary. And without religion, politics, and propaganda necessary what use remains for lying. So please explain to me what I do not understand. Because so far, I have found very little in the mind of man that I cannot understand, and increasingly less I cannot convert into a formula. Perhaps you should find time to investigate what you do not understand – because there is something to be learned there. Instead of searching for what you do understand, in case an opportunity may be found there. If anything could be found in what has failed, men would have. There is a lot to be found in P.

  • “We Are the Only People with Guilt”

    Nov 19, 2019, 7:32 PM by Greg Hamilton Westerners project when we think about others and religion. We are basically the only people with guilt. (Internal pre-policing of behavior based on it being “wrong”) Everyone else is only concerned with the shame of being discovered. Any study of religion or morals that only studies the west or only sees or through a western lens is seriously flawed


    CD: This one is so true it scared me.

  • “We Are the Only People with Guilt”

    Nov 19, 2019, 7:32 PM by Greg Hamilton Westerners project when we think about others and religion. We are basically the only people with guilt. (Internal pre-policing of behavior based on it being “wrong”) Everyone else is only concerned with the shame of being discovered. Any study of religion or morals that only studies the west or only sees or through a western lens is seriously flawed


    CD: This one is so true it scared me.

  • To Destroy Our Natural Religion

    To Destroy Our Natural Religion https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/27/to-destroy-our-natural-religion/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-27 04:47:31 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265504885316993032

  • To Destroy Our Natural Religion

    Nov 21, 2019, 8:54 AM We evolved technology(magic) and found ourselves with dominion over man (others) and nature (gods), so our natural religion is and always was philosophy(dominion over mind), with sacrifice and ritual (debt payment) to gods (archetypal forces) our ‘literature’. The problem we faced is that the church – like judaism and islam – closed down our stoic schools and epicurean communes (monasteries), and killed or outcast our philosophers, to DESTROY OUR NATURAL RELIGION of philosophy (vs theology), and archetypes (vs monotheism). There is no evil in this wold remaining other than abrahamism – I am not sure there ever has been

  • To Destroy Our Natural Religion

    Nov 21, 2019, 8:54 AM We evolved technology(magic) and found ourselves with dominion over man (others) and nature (gods), so our natural religion is and always was philosophy(dominion over mind), with sacrifice and ritual (debt payment) to gods (archetypal forces) our ‘literature’. The problem we faced is that the church – like judaism and islam – closed down our stoic schools and epicurean communes (monasteries), and killed or outcast our philosophers, to DESTROY OUR NATURAL RELIGION of philosophy (vs theology), and archetypes (vs monotheism). There is no evil in this wold remaining other than abrahamism – I am not sure there ever has been

  • Another Christian Understands

    Another Christian Understands. https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/27/another-christian-understands/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-27 04:43:55 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265503978923732992

  • Another Christian Understands.

    Nov 22, 2019, 8:38 AM by Stephen Phillips (this is a masculine christian speaking of the natural law in christian prose) Hello Curt, I understand what you’re driving at here. I’m a Christian, member of a Calvinist church. I am trying to convince people around me of the same things you were mentioning here. The bible conforms to natural law, as a Christian I would say natural law is God’s will. The heirarchy of God, men, women, children, animals and the environment. Men are the head of the house snd collectively we are the head of our nation/ethnicity. The bible speaks quite plainly about most of these things. Some are not as explicit throughout because I believe it was assumed in both the Greek and Hebrew speaking ancient world. Specifically nationalism but the themes and verses supporting that are there and the rejection of multiracialism is quite evident. The problem I have at this point is not Christianity or anything the bible says. I’m including the OT politics here because Jesus quotes the prophets all the time, I’m not a Marcionist and believe the OT and NT shares the same spirit of the same triune God. My problem is effeminate and cowardly white men. Both characteristics are condemned in the bible, men behaving this way go to hell. My thought on this is the ‘meek shall inherit the earth’ combined with Jewish word magic, the phrase meek and mild. When you read the Greek definition of the word meek, it has nothing to do with weakness. Rather it is what you do to a horse, a big beast but under control, being tempered. Not tyrannical, not soft but patient and not slow to use force. It is a good and proper balance which has been lost on modern white men. In any case, I’m working on it in my small way. I believe more people are going to listen as time goes on so I have hope for the future. Take care and God’s blessings to you and yours.

  • Another Christian Understands.

    Nov 22, 2019, 8:38 AM by Stephen Phillips (this is a masculine christian speaking of the natural law in christian prose) Hello Curt, I understand what you’re driving at here. I’m a Christian, member of a Calvinist church. I am trying to convince people around me of the same things you were mentioning here. The bible conforms to natural law, as a Christian I would say natural law is God’s will. The heirarchy of God, men, women, children, animals and the environment. Men are the head of the house snd collectively we are the head of our nation/ethnicity. The bible speaks quite plainly about most of these things. Some are not as explicit throughout because I believe it was assumed in both the Greek and Hebrew speaking ancient world. Specifically nationalism but the themes and verses supporting that are there and the rejection of multiracialism is quite evident. The problem I have at this point is not Christianity or anything the bible says. I’m including the OT politics here because Jesus quotes the prophets all the time, I’m not a Marcionist and believe the OT and NT shares the same spirit of the same triune God. My problem is effeminate and cowardly white men. Both characteristics are condemned in the bible, men behaving this way go to hell. My thought on this is the ‘meek shall inherit the earth’ combined with Jewish word magic, the phrase meek and mild. When you read the Greek definition of the word meek, it has nothing to do with weakness. Rather it is what you do to a horse, a big beast but under control, being tempered. Not tyrannical, not soft but patient and not slow to use force. It is a good and proper balance which has been lost on modern white men. In any case, I’m working on it in my small way. I believe more people are going to listen as time goes on so I have hope for the future. Take care and God’s blessings to you and yours.