The Spiritual Experience https://t.co/Dr3xqyfMsU
Theme: Religion
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The Spiritual Experience
The Spiritual Experience https://propertarianinstitute.com/2020/07/23/the-spiritual-experience/
Source date (UTC): 2020-07-23 20:32:25 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1286398788563808257
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Gods Are Just Information
—“Believing in gods as information is tantamount to atheism, because it asserts gods aren’t supernatural realities. Or have I misunderstood?’—Paul Bard
Or believing in gods are supernatural realities is tantamount to lying because it asserts that gods aren’t just information. Atheism is denial of any such thing. the dispute is over supernatural or natural existence of gods. Only the natural is testifiable.
yes—“Okay. So “praying to god” is directly connecting with the evolved civilisational strategy as an overall archetype?”—Paul Bard
Well done.—“Got it. So atheism falsely presumes certainty over an undecideable. Thank you.”—Paul Bard
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Gods Are Just Information
—“Believing in gods as information is tantamount to atheism, because it asserts gods aren’t supernatural realities. Or have I misunderstood?’—Paul Bard
Or believing in gods are supernatural realities is tantamount to lying because it asserts that gods aren’t just information. Atheism is denial of any such thing. the dispute is over supernatural or natural existence of gods. Only the natural is testifiable.
yes—“Okay. So “praying to god” is directly connecting with the evolved civilisational strategy as an overall archetype?”—Paul Bard
Well done.—“Got it. So atheism falsely presumes certainty over an undecideable. Thank you.”—Paul Bard
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Auto-Association and The Bridge to Religion
—“Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle are a kind of break away Indo-European Gothar. In the same light of Zoroaster and Buddha. But I don’t believe you can have “science” as religion as pure logic.”—Bjorn Asbrandsson
You can, you just choose different heroes of history, and understand how the brain makes auto-associations. God: tiwaz/tyr, spiritual leaders: odin-mind/thor-body, lawgiver: aristotle, statesman: aurelius, general: caesar, hero: alexander, warrior: Achilles; and debts to ancestors (spirits), nature (spirits), the universe(spirits) itself. That’s my pantheon. And my religion is painfully scientific (realism, naturalism, operationalism, auto-association) Its the auto-association that bridges science with what we call religion or faith. Took me a lot of work to figure that out.
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Auto-Association and The Bridge to Religion
—“Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle are a kind of break away Indo-European Gothar. In the same light of Zoroaster and Buddha. But I don’t believe you can have “science” as religion as pure logic.”—Bjorn Asbrandsson
You can, you just choose different heroes of history, and understand how the brain makes auto-associations. God: tiwaz/tyr, spiritual leaders: odin-mind/thor-body, lawgiver: aristotle, statesman: aurelius, general: caesar, hero: alexander, warrior: Achilles; and debts to ancestors (spirits), nature (spirits), the universe(spirits) itself. That’s my pantheon. And my religion is painfully scientific (realism, naturalism, operationalism, auto-association) Its the auto-association that bridges science with what we call religion or faith. Took me a lot of work to figure that out.
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The Spiritual Experience
THE SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE Cognitive Process: Sensation(Senses) -> … Model-Formation(perception) -> … … auto association(memory) -> … … … auto prediction (imagination) -> … … … … auto-response (emotion) -> … … … … … TRUST, SUBMISSION, PACK RESPONSE: … … … … … … 1. TO DOMINANCE (High) … … … … … … … 2. TO COOPERATION … … … … … … … … 3. TO CARE … … … … … … … … … 4. TO PACK, BE WITH PACK (Low) … … (continuous feedback loop to auto-association(memory).) Moreover, language requires suggestion. Langauge consists of storytelling. Storytellingproduces model formation. So… mix language, storytelling, model formation and … boom. So you can train yourself to habituate this submission response and to revel in the calm of it just as surely as you can train yourself to habituate the dominance response in business, sport, or war. All religions are designed to train you into this submission response. Stoicism-Epicureanism is not. It teaches you insulation from signal pressures. It is the only non-submissive, non-avoidance religion. With buddhism ‘avoidance’ rather than submission. But stoicism-epicureanism lack political aspect. They requires paganism (a portfolio of heroes to imitate depending upon one’s talents and preferences)
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The Spiritual Experience
THE SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE Cognitive Process: Sensation(Senses) -> … Model-Formation(perception) -> … … auto association(memory) -> … … … auto prediction (imagination) -> … … … … auto-response (emotion) -> … … … … … TRUST, SUBMISSION, PACK RESPONSE: … … … … … … 1. TO DOMINANCE (High) … … … … … … … 2. TO COOPERATION … … … … … … … … 3. TO CARE … … … … … … … … … 4. TO PACK, BE WITH PACK (Low) … … (continuous feedback loop to auto-association(memory).) Moreover, language requires suggestion. Langauge consists of storytelling. Storytellingproduces model formation. So… mix language, storytelling, model formation and … boom. So you can train yourself to habituate this submission response and to revel in the calm of it just as surely as you can train yourself to habituate the dominance response in business, sport, or war. All religions are designed to train you into this submission response. Stoicism-Epicureanism is not. It teaches you insulation from signal pressures. It is the only non-submissive, non-avoidance religion. With buddhism ‘avoidance’ rather than submission. But stoicism-epicureanism lack political aspect. They requires paganism (a portfolio of heroes to imitate depending upon one’s talents and preferences)
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Grammars: Theology, Ideology, Philosophy, Science, Law
GRAMMARS: THEOLOGY, IDEOLOGY, PHILOSOPHY, SCIENCE, LAW
THEOLOGY: a system (paradigm) of organizing populations for the purpose of obtaining their obedience. IDEOLOGY: a system (paradigm) of organizing populations for the purpose of influencing political policy. PHILOSOPHY: a system (paradigm) of organization and decidability for the purpose of satisfying particular preferences. SCIENCE: a system (paradigm) of organization and decidability for the purpose of producing universally coherent descriptions LAW: a system (paradigm) of organization and decidability for the purpose of universally resolving disputes GRAMMAR: Paradigm, Vocabulary, Logic of internal consistency with that vocabulary in that paradigm. For producing references (nouns), states (phrases), transactions (sentences), stories (ledgers) of changes in state (operations), by continuous recursive disambiguation. Langauge = measurement = accounting, and coherence = balancing the scale. All civilizations produce a group strategy, a mythos (archetypes, narratives), rituals (religion) to perpetuate it, a means (grammar) of arguing in favor of it
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Grammars: Theology, Ideology, Philosophy, Science, Law
GRAMMARS: THEOLOGY, IDEOLOGY, PHILOSOPHY, SCIENCE, LAW
THEOLOGY: a system (paradigm) of organizing populations for the purpose of obtaining their obedience. IDEOLOGY: a system (paradigm) of organizing populations for the purpose of influencing political policy. PHILOSOPHY: a system (paradigm) of organization and decidability for the purpose of satisfying particular preferences. SCIENCE: a system (paradigm) of organization and decidability for the purpose of producing universally coherent descriptions LAW: a system (paradigm) of organization and decidability for the purpose of universally resolving disputes GRAMMAR: Paradigm, Vocabulary, Logic of internal consistency with that vocabulary in that paradigm. For producing references (nouns), states (phrases), transactions (sentences), stories (ledgers) of changes in state (operations), by continuous recursive disambiguation. Langauge = measurement = accounting, and coherence = balancing the scale. All civilizations produce a group strategy, a mythos (archetypes, narratives), rituals (religion) to perpetuate it, a means (grammar) of arguing in favor of it