Theme: Religion

  • HOW DOES JESUS EXTEND (COMPLETE) NATURAL LAW? —“Can you elaborate on how you s

    HOW DOES JESUS EXTEND (COMPLETE) NATURAL LAW?

    —“Can you elaborate on how you see Jesus as having extended natural law into a via-positiva? I’ve seen you describe Jesus’ contribution as providing the underclass access to virtue by way of excessive forgiveness. If the forgiveness is admittedly excessive, isn’t this a violation of reciprocity?”—James Hargraves

    The natural law of reciprocity tells us what’s negative – what not to do. Christian charity tells us what positive – what to do: forgive until baiting into cooperation doesn’t work. So Christian forgiveness provides the via Positiva for natural law.

    Do not unto others, what they would not have done unto them. Do unto others only as you would have done unto you; Forgive what others do unto you – until you know better. This third charge is the uniqueness of Christianity. The first two which Christians claim are universal in all cultures, ad always have been.

    The prisoner’s dilemma is the thought experiment (and the computer model we use) for testing game theories of cooperation and the incentive to trust (or cheat).

    Exhaustive forgiveness (tit-for-tat) solves the prisoner’s dilemma game. In other words, it is the optimum strategy fo identifying and sorting the pervasively immoral from the potentially moral. In almost all cases, including the most addicted and criminal, people who are not otherwise mentally ill, will eventually fall to ‘seduction’ into cooperation.

    Christianity produced both i) this trust between people, and ii) limited tribal and familial retaliation cycles that plagued the ancient world, and iii) made more complex polities, then iv) more complex trade, and business possible because people just stopped cheating one another first and cooperated trustfully first – at least in northern Europe (not southern). Even in the middle east if it didn’t increase trust it cut retaliation cycles – hence old Lebanon’s advantage in the area.

    This is why Protestant Christianity produces commons-based wealth: it makes everyone forgiving and brings into being what we think of as commercial ethics. And why Catholic and Orthodox Christianity create peaceful reasonably trusting commons (not governments). Both Catholic and Orthodox fail at the problem of politics. Protestant hasn’t although it appears to be a function of germanic military tradition not differences in Christian teaching.

    Christianity does not do its work without the military and militia (germanic north). Catholic Christianity was profoundly corrupt – and no different from Marxist-pomo schools and universities today. This isn’t true of Protestantism which because of local funding makes corruption very difficult, or orthodoxy, which assisted rather than fought with and competed with the state and the people.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-24 22:53:00 UTC

  • I AM AND P IS NOT ANTI-CHRISTIAN – BUT ANTI-ABRAHAMIC. 1. I am not anti christia

    I AM AND P IS NOT ANTI-CHRISTIAN – BUT ANTI-ABRAHAMIC.

    1. I am not anti christian, I’m a jeffersonian Christian. Meaning jesus was a philosopher speaking in the language of parables that his people could understand. So jesus spoke in their wisdom literature: Abrahamism (false promise to obtain obedience). It may have been all he knew. But his lesson can be disentangled from the Abrahamic Deceit he preached with, just like it can be translated from Aramaic into Greek, Roman, Latins, Germanic, and English.

    As for God, I may intuit deism, but in my job as a judge I cannot testify to it, and all evidence continues the trend of a universe lacking any agent.

    As for My god, it’s definitely the god of my people: tiwaz, tyr, odin/thor, zeus, jupiter, an I ‘worship’ a lot of ‘gods’.

    Why? Because our civilization has always been trifunctional: War, Law, and Faith. And My priority is War, Law, Faith. Because that is the hierarchy of dependency. Others don’t have this priority – because THEY CAN”T DO IT. I understand. But all of us have this set of priorities. We just don’t sit down and educate ourselves on our priorities and the moral intuitions that result from them.

    2. Nor is P anti-Christian. In P, Jesus extended natural law into a via-positiva. That’s SCIENCE. This means Jesus is in the pantheon of European heroes – as a Philosopher. And philosophers are worthy of worship (respect). Because all gods of all sorts that we worship consist of information and they produce behaviors in us just as if they were still among us.

    3. I am and P is, anti-Abrahamic, which to a Christian means anti-theological, anti-supernatural. To supernatural Christians, this is a contradiction. To those of us who seek only wisdom, it’s not the supernaturalists who practice contradictions. This is the conflict between Law and Faith. When faith claims theology, reason, and argument, and intrudes on truth and the law rather than faith.

    4. I have contempt for Christians but my contempt isn’t for Jesus. It’s for cowards hiding behind his skirts while claiming virtue. Jesus didn’t hide. Jesus showed up. And he took the hit. I don’t see (many) xians showing up. I see them undermining – like leftists.

    5. I have contempt for cowardice and most of Christianity that is visible to me is cowardly. Now I don’t care if you believe in magic if it doesn’t affect business, economics, politics, or war. I don’t really care of you abandon reality and live in a primitive fictional drama world – if you still show up for work and get the job done. And I don’t care what reason you choose to show up and fight for your people.

    6. But so far, all I see from Christians is “I wanna play by magic rules or I’m gonna go home and help Rome Fall Again.” So instead I challenge Christians to prove historians wrong: prove that Christians weren’t responsible for the fall and failure to restore Rome. Weren’t responsible for the dark ages of ignorance and superstition. And instead man up, shut up, and show up.

    7. I’m contemptuous of those who seek refuge on the right among men who put action in reality and joy of life before doing nothing, and worship of death. You hide behind Christian skirts, hide behind better men’s bravery, hide behind better men’s achievements, and do nothing except demand coddling like women.

    8. I’m contemptuous of deniers, liars and sophists that were responsible for undermining the ancient world, and responsible aiding our enemies in our current condition. Christians have been communists for all of history. The only reason they bend Right is Marxism-Postmodernism a more influential cult. They shifted from supernatural false promise after death, to pseudoscientific false promise after revolution in the present world.

    9. I’m contemptuous of pretense that the Christian alliance with the right hasn’t been a disaster – Christians aren’t Right – they oppose the right. They always have. Church-Christianity (Churchanity) is the counter-revolution against the martial aristocracy. They’re historically and presently leftists. They use the female means of disapproval. They use the female means of argument. They put approval before truth. they put conformity before adaptability. They put safety and security before achievement. They don’t show for defense of the polity, don’t show for counter-protests.

    10. Islamism is a better historical supernatural religion of undermining host peoples, and Marxism is a better present pseudoscientific version of Judaism. Postmodernism and political correctness are just a better present version of Christianity. But fundamentally, whether you practice Islam or Islamism, Judaism or marxism, Christianity or postmodernism, you are still practicing the female method of undermining, and the Abrahamic method of deceit to do it.

    11. The weak will turn on us no matter what we do. and as we have seen the majority of those that turn on us are Christians, because Christianity uses the same values and techniques as the left.

    12. There is nothing that will bring Christians other than the cover of men who don’t put religion first but people and results first. If the dominance of faith must be greater than the dominance of people first, the dominance of law second, and faith third, then these people are merely walking hand mental grenades (I was just in a revolution. You know who fights? Men who like fighting. You know who those men hide among for cover? Christians chanting.)

    13. I must break the concept that I am P. I am not, any more than darwin was evolution, einstein relativity. I just discovered it. I am not someone the grunts will follow. worse, I can be destroyed like every other ‘leader’. P cannot be a heroic leader cult no matter how badly people want it. It has to be an idea. That idea is pretty simple and concrete now.

    14. We must attract men who will act for the policies, and let the others fill in if we have the numbers. A popular movement is impossible. A ‘loyalty’ (elite) movement is possible, and the grunts will follow the elites if there are numbers.

    15. We need to recruit ‘a few good men’ and say what that means. That few good men needs to be ‘enough’.

    Truth is enough. And I cannot compromise on the truth.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-24 22:03:00 UTC

  • You seek refuge on the right among men who put action in reality and joy of life

    You seek refuge on the right among men who put action in reality and joy of life before doing nothing, and worship of death. You hide behind Christian skirts,hide behind better men’s bravery, hide behind better men’s achievements, and do nothing except demand coddling like women.

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  • You seek refuge on the right among men who put action in reality and joy of life

    You seek refuge on the right among men who put action in reality and joy of life before doing nothing, and worship of death. You hide behind Christian skirts,hide behind better men’s bravery, hide behind better men’s achievements, and do nothing except demand coddling like women.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-24 20:15:08 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1286756826307072001

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    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1286755866201513986


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    @victorkfranco @Ozpin_88 @Nationalist7346 @TruthQuest11 Yes I’m contemptuous of deniers, liars and sophists that were responsible for undermining the ancient world, and responsible aiding our enemies in our current condition. Christians have been communists for all of history. The only reason you bend Right is Marxism’s a better cult.

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  • (Correct: P Is not anti-christian. It’s anti-abrahamism. How can you practice je

    (Correct: P Is not anti-christian. It’s anti-abrahamism. How can you practice jesus’ teaching without abrahamic deceits?)

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  • (Correct: P Is not anti-christian. It’s anti-abrahamism. How can you practice je

    (Correct: P Is not anti-christian. It’s anti-abrahamism. How can you practice jesus’ teaching without abrahamic deceits?)


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-24 20:12:13 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1286756089699196930

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    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1286750355221557248

  • Yes I’m contemptuous of deniers, liars and sophists that were responsible for un

    Yes I’m contemptuous of deniers, liars and sophists that were responsible for undermining the ancient world, and responsible aiding our enemies in our current condition. Christians have been communists for all of history. The only reason you bend Right is Marxism’s a better cult.

    Reply addressees: @victorkfranco @Ozpin_88 @Nationalist7346 @TruthQuest11

  • Yes I’m contemptuous of deniers, liars and sophists that were responsible for un

    Yes I’m contemptuous of deniers, liars and sophists that were responsible for undermining the ancient world, and responsible aiding our enemies in our current condition. Christians have been communists for all of history. The only reason you bend Right is Marxism’s a better cult.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-24 20:11:19 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1286755866201513986

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    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1286749810238713856

  • CONTEMPT? IT’S DUE. —“Someone who is so contemptuous and anti-Christian can on

    CONTEMPT? IT’S DUE.

    —“Someone who is so contemptuous and anti-Christian can only be lovingly ridiculed about how they’ve created even more ludicrous things to underpin their worldview. Like this figment called “Natural Law” that you capitalize.”—@victorkfranco

    Yes I’m contemptuous of deniers, liars and sophists that were responsible for undermining the ancient world, and responsible aiding our enemies in our current condition. Christians have been communists for all of history. The only reason you bend Right is Marxism’s a better cult.

    You seek refuge on the right among men who put action in reality and joy of life before doing nothing, and worship of death. You hide behind Christian skirts,hide behind better men’s bravery, hide behind better men’s achievements, and do nothing except demand coddling like women.

    Christian’s aren’t Right – they’re historically and presently leftists. They use the female means of disapproval. They use the female means of argument. They put approval before truth. they put conformity before adaptability. They put safety and security before achievement. They don’t show for defense of the polity, don’t show for counter-protests.

    Islamism is a better historical supernatural religion of undermining host peoples, and Marxism is a better present pseudoscientific version of Judaism. Postmodernism and political correctness are just a better present version of Christianity. But fundamentally, whether you practice Islam or Islamism, Judaism or marxism, Christianity or postmodernism, you are still practicing the female method of undermining, and the Abrahamic method of deceit to do it.

    Now I don’t care if you believe in magic men and magic acts and magic places if it doesn’t affect business, economics, politics, or war. I don’t really care of you abandon reality and live in a primitive fictional dram world if you still show up for work and get the job done. And I don’t care what reason you choose to show up and fight for your people.

    But so far, all I see from Christians is “I wanna play by magic man rules or I’m gonna go home ad help Rome Fall Again.”

    So prove historians wrong, and man up, shut up, and show up. Because so far Christianity is the girl band of politics.

    Because my contempt isn’t for jesus. It’s for cowards hiding behind his skirts while claiming virtue.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-24 16:29:00 UTC

  • It’s how adults rule the world in business, finance, politics, and war and Vikto

    It’s how adults rule the world in business, finance, politics, and war and Viktor is why they lie when doing it (demand for emotional, religious or secular-religious). The smart, capable, influential people are purely empirical. That’s why they don’t talk to the public.

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