MOTIVE: “SOCIAL SCIENCE BY KING OF THE HILL GAMES”
–“you don’t respond with evidence”–
Let me correct you: I only respond with explanation and evidence to arguments.
(a) Reciprocity = morality (and ethics, manners)
(b) I responded to each disapproval reciprocally. See?
(c) to falsify a proposition, one must propose a counter argument, demonstrating one has the knowledge to disagree – not accuse without demonstrating the knowledge to disagree. Emotional appeals and accusations are not counter-arguments. They’re admissions of ignorance.
(d) These accusations are based on disapproval (emotion) not reason and argument. There is no counter to argue against. One need not seek to prove one’s point without a counter-point to demonstrate it’s possible to educate.
(e) Responding in kind, explaining that it’s not an argument, only animal instinct, and test for how long it takes for the accuser to make a case (argument) that *isn’t* disapproval but contradiction.
(f) Even your complaint is disapproval, not contradiction to the argument stated (which I an easily defend). I never needed to defend the argument.
(g) Find a ‘challenge’ and respond. (First one I’ve seen was just moments ago, when someone gave examples of idividuals prewar rather than the set off women postwar. It’s not logical, but it’s at least a ‘challenge’.
(h) What’s demonstrated by this process is what I want to demonstrate.
(i) And I (we) do manage to ‘filter’ through and discover a few sentient humans along the way.
(j) So, I’m not (we are not) trying to convince ‘bots’ (children) to mature into rational competent adults sufficient for particpation in participatory governance. We are demonstrating that only a tiny fraction are capable of participatory government, and only then after the education that their ancestors recieved as members of the upper middle and upper classes, who daily suffered the emotionalism, magical thinking, and amorality, immorality, and deceit of the common people.
(k) In participatory government, you get the government you deserve, because it wil, it must, eventually reflect you – individually and collectively. And at present. As always. It does. I’m just doing basic research and development and working on reformation of the law, constitution, policy, and education to compensate for it – and make adulthood a litte more common for us all.
Quite a few lessons in debate in there.
Cheers
cc: @expectnotmuch and @FrailSkeleton
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A POSITIVE MESSAGE FOR WOMEN?
–“Almost no one on the right has a positive message for women.”– @FrailSkeleton
Hmmm. Well, is that true?
We’re running an experiment.
One of the most dangerous in history.
– We have learned that women in their evolutionary roles are priceless. We have learned that women in the economy is a false return on rate of reproduction.
– We have learned that the inclusion of women into economy and polity, at the cost of reproduction, ends in genetic decline. And our IQ is heading to second-world threshold within the next few years.
– We have learned that women do not net contribute to the labor pool as much as displace men out of the labor pool (labor participation rates) in those fields that are least damaging to our bodies.
– We have learned that the totality of the contribution of women to the economy is absorbed by taxation. And because of it we require two income households.
– We have learned that even by participating in the economy the only net taxpayers are white men over 35, yet 70% of government services are consumed by women. But men are not taken care of by the state as are women and suicide in vast numbers in late middle age.
– We have learned women in a polity are, as expected, biased to empathizing at interpersonal scale, and naturally incompetent to, and resistant to, systematizing at political scale.
– We have learned that it destroyed the intersexual cooperation between the sexes, the family as the fist institution of reproductive, social, economic, and political organization.
– We have learned that nearly everything we were warned about women in politics was true.
– We have learned that suicide is increasing in both sexes at different ages, that everyone is de-socialized, that society means children, that the production of families is the only thing that makes us relatively equal with equal incentives.
– We have learned that the consequences are horrific.
So when you say the right has nothing positive to say about women. What I think you mean is, we have nothing positive to say about women acting as if they are men, and failing at it. And we have plenty of positive things to say about women when they act as women, and succeed at it. So we’d prefer they didn’t fail at being men AND fail at being women too. And instead succeeded at being women. So we can succeed at being men. And together we can succeed as families. And as families produce the next generation as good or better than the last.
(That’s the quotable bit there at the end.)
Curt Doolittle
The Natural Law Institute
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