Theme: Reciprocity

  • BEING A FASCIST ABOUT RECIPROCITY MEANS YOU CAN BE ANARCHIST ABOUT EVERYTHING EL

    BEING A FASCIST ABOUT RECIPROCITY MEANS YOU CAN BE ANARCHIST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE

    By: Gearóid Walsh (via Michael Hayes)

    Being an absolute fascist about the bare essentials of punishing ir-reciprocity means you can be anarchist about everything else.

    The idealist anarchist alternative is “well I hope that they will respect the Non Aggression Principle”.

    The real world just doesn’t work that way. Liberty is an emergent property of safe and high trust societies (contracts and boundaries are expected to be honoured as a social norm and criminality is against the social norm) much more than it can be defined in the utopian abstract, and in terms of absence of select factors.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-04 12:12:00 UTC

  • Neither do you, I see. And neither to the ex’s I’ve dumped. And neither did your

    Neither do you, I see. And neither to the ex’s I’ve dumped. And neither did your mom – but it was reciprocal. I paid and left.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-04 04:33:09 UTC

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  • But in matters of argument, competition, conflict, or ir-reciprocity(criminal, u

    But in matters of argument, competition, conflict, or ir-reciprocity(criminal, unethical, immoral) your imagination makes no difference. Lying to yourself makes no difference. Lying to preserve a delusion makes no difference. Only action does. And actions demonstrate truth.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-04 00:50:16 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179921646041403397

    Reply addressees: @freedomismoral

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    @freedomismoral Metaphysics must means paradigm and paradigm just means a set of constant relations, but whether those constant relations correspond to reality, your imagination, your imagination of what you might do, is either demonstrable or not. It doesn’t matter when it’s just in your head.

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    @curtdoolittle

    @freedomismoral Metaphysics must means paradigm and paradigm just means a set of constant relations, but whether those constant relations correspond to reality, your imagination, your imagination of what you might do, is either demonstrable or not. It doesn’t matter when it’s just in your head.

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  • Economics of Consumption Is by Definition Leftist

    [S]overeignty demands Reciprocity, where demand for Reciprocity includes all demonstrated interests, whether bodily, family, physical, normative, traditional, informational, or the civic and political institutions that defend them. To reinforce the intuition that productivity isn’t observable with a bit more edge: westerners produce commons that other people cannot produce, and we do by NOT DOING evil: lying, misleading, cheating, stealing, free riding, corruption, as much as what we DO: Sovereignty, Reciprocity, Truth, Duty, Heroism. So economists (all of whom are leftists) only measure individual consumer goods, not the production of commons: truth, honesty, integrity, contract, quality, civility, responsibility – which is what makes western civilization unique. We don’t live in a world where there is a problem of consumption – we have just enabled the world to stampede on a path to hyper-consumption – even of the commons we alone can make, which made their hyper-consumption possible.

  • Economics of Consumption Is by Definition Leftist

    [S]overeignty demands Reciprocity, where demand for Reciprocity includes all demonstrated interests, whether bodily, family, physical, normative, traditional, informational, or the civic and political institutions that defend them. To reinforce the intuition that productivity isn’t observable with a bit more edge: westerners produce commons that other people cannot produce, and we do by NOT DOING evil: lying, misleading, cheating, stealing, free riding, corruption, as much as what we DO: Sovereignty, Reciprocity, Truth, Duty, Heroism. So economists (all of whom are leftists) only measure individual consumer goods, not the production of commons: truth, honesty, integrity, contract, quality, civility, responsibility – which is what makes western civilization unique. We don’t live in a world where there is a problem of consumption – we have just enabled the world to stampede on a path to hyper-consumption – even of the commons we alone can make, which made their hyper-consumption possible.

  • Is the State Moral?

    —“Dear mr Doolittle, How can the state, based on extortion and theft, be reciprocal? Real question. Not some goofy troll. Kind regards”— Sietze Bosman @fryskefilosoof

    [T]he state enforces order (cooperation) sufficient to deny competitors access to the territory, resources, people, their production, and networks of productivity and trade. And to deny internal inhibitors to the income necessary to pay for it. It does this by suppressing local … … rent seeking, corruption, and transaction costs, and centralizing these returns as ‘taxation’, where concentration of that income can be devoted to the production of commons and the multipliers produced by such commons. this creates opportunity for centralized corruption … … and alliance with the state against the people, but without exception, the returns on state vs non-state are obvious: non state’s cannot and do not exist. Even those claimed by ‘libertarians’ are just borderlands defended by states or empires, investing in settlement by … … permissiveness we translate as liberty. Since settlers provide claims to territory which can be defended by arms, because in fact, they are investing in that territory, and reciprocity is the only international natural law that we can observe. We defend what we invest in. The only means of policing the state that we know of is rule of law through the courts of universal standing in matters both private and common.We have had this revoked by the state during the modern period, and we’ve been disintermediated from the courts as our means of defense. Democracy can never control anything other than voting an oligarchy into or out of office. Its insufficient for policy or defense because representatives are not required to state terms of contract before they enter office. So with democracy, disintermediation from the courts … … the only remaining method of insurance of sovereignty, liberty, freedom, and reciprocity is the militia and revolt. So the state must and can collect fees for defense, and the courts. It cannot compete unless it can collect fees for investment in the commons. Paying such people richly if small in number reduces their chances of corruption. But allowing them to buy votes through … … redistribution; and provides finance and internationals (large scale) with access to rents, rather than locals whose rents were suppressed (small scale), merely shifting the problem from many distributed rent seekers to fewer larger centralized rent seekers. This would appear to be a null trade, but it’s not, since suppression of local corruption and rent seeking provides the economic velocity that makes finance and internationals possible. So we must simply repeat the process of using the courts and the law to suppress … … new, larger organizations of rent seekers and corruption. And this process never ends. Man invents. So men will invent new means of rents and corruption, and other men will use the market for the suppression of parasitism that we call the courts and the law to stop them. In this sense the (positive ) market for goods, services, and information is the one we are most aware of. We are somewhat aware of the government (not state) as a market for commons. But of equal import is the (negative) market for the suppression of ir-reciprocity … … whether in the market for consumption (goods services information) or the market for multipliers (commons) we call government. Technically speaking the ‘state’ consists of the assets of the polity and the law its regulator, and the government a means of producing commons. Where commons includes the state and its holdings and the means of defense whether military, judicial or sheriff. Collectively the government and the state also provide the services of an insurer of last resort. The problem is maintaining its role as insurer, investor, … … and resolver of disputes, while not allowing the public to demand redistributions that limit their responsibility rather than insurance that retains it. I hope that is enough of a picture for you. No you can’t live statelessly except in a desert, tundra, or artic waste. That’s why no one has or does. I suppose that like many people who can consume information for entertainment and status you assume man is moral, rather than amoral, and choosing the moral and immoral as incentives provide. We can in fact read others. However history says that reading creates moral behavior … … not that moral behavior is intuitive. As anyone who has raised children finds rather obvious.

  • Is the State Moral?

    —“Dear mr Doolittle, How can the state, based on extortion and theft, be reciprocal? Real question. Not some goofy troll. Kind regards”— Sietze Bosman @fryskefilosoof

    [T]he state enforces order (cooperation) sufficient to deny competitors access to the territory, resources, people, their production, and networks of productivity and trade. And to deny internal inhibitors to the income necessary to pay for it. It does this by suppressing local … … rent seeking, corruption, and transaction costs, and centralizing these returns as ‘taxation’, where concentration of that income can be devoted to the production of commons and the multipliers produced by such commons. this creates opportunity for centralized corruption … … and alliance with the state against the people, but without exception, the returns on state vs non-state are obvious: non state’s cannot and do not exist. Even those claimed by ‘libertarians’ are just borderlands defended by states or empires, investing in settlement by … … permissiveness we translate as liberty. Since settlers provide claims to territory which can be defended by arms, because in fact, they are investing in that territory, and reciprocity is the only international natural law that we can observe. We defend what we invest in. The only means of policing the state that we know of is rule of law through the courts of universal standing in matters both private and common.We have had this revoked by the state during the modern period, and we’ve been disintermediated from the courts as our means of defense. Democracy can never control anything other than voting an oligarchy into or out of office. Its insufficient for policy or defense because representatives are not required to state terms of contract before they enter office. So with democracy, disintermediation from the courts … … the only remaining method of insurance of sovereignty, liberty, freedom, and reciprocity is the militia and revolt. So the state must and can collect fees for defense, and the courts. It cannot compete unless it can collect fees for investment in the commons. Paying such people richly if small in number reduces their chances of corruption. But allowing them to buy votes through … … redistribution; and provides finance and internationals (large scale) with access to rents, rather than locals whose rents were suppressed (small scale), merely shifting the problem from many distributed rent seekers to fewer larger centralized rent seekers. This would appear to be a null trade, but it’s not, since suppression of local corruption and rent seeking provides the economic velocity that makes finance and internationals possible. So we must simply repeat the process of using the courts and the law to suppress … … new, larger organizations of rent seekers and corruption. And this process never ends. Man invents. So men will invent new means of rents and corruption, and other men will use the market for the suppression of parasitism that we call the courts and the law to stop them. In this sense the (positive ) market for goods, services, and information is the one we are most aware of. We are somewhat aware of the government (not state) as a market for commons. But of equal import is the (negative) market for the suppression of ir-reciprocity … … whether in the market for consumption (goods services information) or the market for multipliers (commons) we call government. Technically speaking the ‘state’ consists of the assets of the polity and the law its regulator, and the government a means of producing commons. Where commons includes the state and its holdings and the means of defense whether military, judicial or sheriff. Collectively the government and the state also provide the services of an insurer of last resort. The problem is maintaining its role as insurer, investor, … … and resolver of disputes, while not allowing the public to demand redistributions that limit their responsibility rather than insurance that retains it. I hope that is enough of a picture for you. No you can’t live statelessly except in a desert, tundra, or artic waste. That’s why no one has or does. I suppose that like many people who can consume information for entertainment and status you assume man is moral, rather than amoral, and choosing the moral and immoral as incentives provide. We can in fact read others. However history says that reading creates moral behavior … … not that moral behavior is intuitive. As anyone who has raised children finds rather obvious.

  • Q: How Can Violence Be Reciprocal (moral)?

    Q: How Can Violence Be Reciprocal (moral)? https://propertarianism.com/2019/10/03/q-how-can-violence-be-reciprocal-moral/


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-03 23:28:43 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179901123261583366

  • Q: How Can Violence Be Reciprocal (moral)?

    Q: HOW CAN VIOLENCE BE RECIPROCAL (MORAL)?

    —“How can violence be reciprocal?”—Sietze Bosman @fryskefilosoof

    1. Returning violence is and act of reciprocity.
    2. Forcing Restitution and if necessary punishment (disincentive for repetition), restores reciprocity.
    3. Preemptive violence insures against ir-reciprocity.

    COUNSEL: Always use a series of at least 3 to 5 when analyzing propositions. Using series – which is what I teach – disambiguates and prevents errors of conflation when using ideal types and fallacies of construction such as ‘principles’. Most sophistry in philosophy consists of using ideal rather than serialized (enumerated) definitions; using the verb to be rather than the means of existence; conflating points of view between the observer, actor, and acted upon; and failing to construct complete sentences in testimonial (promissory) grammar, using operational terms. You will find that this is one of the points of demarcation between theology, philosophy, moralizing, and testimony (what we call science): disambiguation and operationalization into complete promissory sentences will rapidly demonstrate that almost all philosophical questions are sophisms. Witticisms. Nonsense. Puzzles. Riddles. But nothing more.

  • Q: How Can Violence Be Reciprocal (moral)?

    Q: HOW CAN VIOLENCE BE RECIPROCAL (MORAL)?

    —“How can violence be reciprocal?”—Sietze Bosman @fryskefilosoof

    1. Returning violence is and act of reciprocity.
    2. Forcing Restitution and if necessary punishment (disincentive for repetition), restores reciprocity.
    3. Preemptive violence insures against ir-reciprocity.

    COUNSEL: Always use a series of at least 3 to 5 when analyzing propositions. Using series – which is what I teach – disambiguates and prevents errors of conflation when using ideal types and fallacies of construction such as ‘principles’. Most sophistry in philosophy consists of using ideal rather than serialized (enumerated) definitions; using the verb to be rather than the means of existence; conflating points of view between the observer, actor, and acted upon; and failing to construct complete sentences in testimonial (promissory) grammar, using operational terms. You will find that this is one of the points of demarcation between theology, philosophy, moralizing, and testimony (what we call science): disambiguation and operationalization into complete promissory sentences will rapidly demonstrate that almost all philosophical questions are sophisms. Witticisms. Nonsense. Puzzles. Riddles. But nothing more.