Theme: Property

  • LIBER-TARDIANS … USEFUL IDIOTS OF THE ENEMY —“I’ll bet I used [Propertariani

    LIBER-TARDIANS … USEFUL IDIOTS OF THE ENEMY

    —“I’ll bet I used [Propertarianism] before you ever did. It is amusing that you think”–

    Well if you’ll bet, then how much, and what evidence can you present to back your case?

    —“2. You would suppress the imposition of costs by inventing counterfeit property, such as a property in things like social trust, average IQ, and feelings of safety.”—

    1. Demonstrated interest is existential: “demonstrated” – a truth. It’s not a choice, opinion, or preference. Any OTHER definition is a choice, preference or opinion. In other words any other choice is arbitrary.

    2. You have to arbitrarily choose something other than demonstrated interest. (This is how Abrahamic Pilpul is used to create an internally consistent set of justificationary lies – and of course you fell for it.)

    3. Humans can’t know scarcity, only demonstrated interest. Look up the origin of the concept of scarcity.

    4. Humans only know objective demonstration of interest and subjective value. Humans could only have evolved identification of value, demonstrated interest, and subjective value. We can’t know scarcity only ignorance.

    5. Any attempt to refute my position is an attempt to refute subjective value, and you would have a very hard time doing that. 😉

    6. Humans can’t avoid conflict by simply being ignorant of the resources necessary to demonstrate an interest something, we can only avoid conflict by knoweldge that others have used resources to demonstrate an interest, and continue to demonstrate that interest.

    7. What you are missing is (a) scarcity of a good is a circular reasoning. (b) that demonstrated interest is the scarcity, (b) that cooperation is the ultimate scarcity, (c) that reciprocity (non imposition against demonstrated interest) is the only means of preserving that cooperation. (d) that those who impose costs upon demonstrated intersets are the only source of conflict over the POTENTIAL to obtain returns on one’s demonstrated interests.

    8. Your opinion on what imposition of costs upon their demonstrated interests does not matter to others or the headman, counsel, court that must resolve conflicts when demonstrated interest is always and everywhere the means of decidability. In other words, you can try to advocate for leaving open the possibility of parasitism upon and harm against others, but it doesn’t mean anything to others, it’s just a lie you and yours tell yourselves to try to justify parasitism upon others and harm against others intersets. Morality is what other people won’t harm or kill you for, and the only reason not to harm or kill you is the value of your cooperation versus non-cooperation, uncooperative-competition, free riding, parasitism, predation upon anything that the use whatsoever to create and preserve their returns on cooperation. In other words, it doesn’t matter what you think – it matters what others do and you can negotiate for survival with them. (This is why I use science not justificationary pilpul like jewish rothbard and jewish-trained Hoppe.

    Hoppe is trying to restore free cities but to do so by free riding on on other’s states. Rothbard is trying to restore jewish separatism by free riding on the same states. They’re both trying to justify free riding. There is only one source of determining your rights: the use of organized violence at personal risk to deny others the alternative. The problem is that the only way to hold territory and population is with economic production hence the universal creation of increasingly suppressive laws against parasitism in every empire so that economic velocity is highest, and returns highest, and therefore military capacity highest. )

    9. I do science. Y’all do pilpul (sophistry). Jewish sophistry (pilpul and critique, GSRRM, false promise, baiting into hazard) is the most sophisticated form of deception yet invented by man, just as science is the most sophisticated form of truthful testimony invented by man. There are many means of lying by sophistry, including numerology, astrology, pseudoscience, theology, but the means of lying without appeal to anything external to language is Sophism. The reason it’s effective – weaving internal consistently out of self referentiality – is because it does not, like science, appeal to reality for closure (decidability). Instead the technique seeks to overwhelm (overload) reason (modeling) causing an appeal to moral intuition. Once you understand it’s just a technique of deception that like any other technique that can be mastered, it’s relatively easy to identify. The problem is untangling the self-referentiality rather than modeling the consequences in reality – which is what it seeks to undermine.

    Anyway. I don’t err. We all make mistakes. I very rarely err. And since this is my primary line of research I certainly don’t err in this case. I can’t. The science says so.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-01-21 16:11:00 UTC

  • RESTORING MARITAL INCENTIVES The reason men don’t want to get married is common

    RESTORING MARITAL INCENTIVES
    The reason men don’t want to get married is common property, alimony, child support – all of which are ‘rent-seeking’ (forms of corruption) – and lack of standing to suit for interference in the marriage: But All’s fixable.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-01-17 13:38:20 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1218165659730923521

  • A Detailed Explanation of Rothbard’s Sophistry

    –“I define anarchist society as one where there is no legal possibility for coercive aggression against the person or property of any individual.” —  Murray N. Rothbard

    —“There needs to be a detailed explanation as to how this statement is sophistry Curt Doolittle.”— Χρόνος @HliosX, Murray Rothbard @MurraySuggests [E]asily done. The Jewish method of deceit by sophism (pilpul), and Rothbard’s application of the Jewish method of deceit by suggestion: “I define a perfect object as one that has four dimensions” The fact that it’s possible to imagine but impossible to construct any object in four dimensions isn’t stated. Mathematical axioms are declarative (we make them up), literary consistencies (pseudo-axioms) are declarative (they are only analogies), and physical laws are existential (we merely discover them, and can’t make them up). It doesn’t matter what you define (axioms) it matters only what exists and can be constructed by actions (laws). Once we know the Jewish method of deceit by pilpul (sophism) the technique is obvious: false promise, baiting into hazard, advocated by pilpul (sophism, overloading, suggestion), defended by critique(undermining), via pretense of plausible deniability, and absent warranty. We then compare this to the Western test of Operational Construction: How can a thing be brought into being by a sequence of actions, and persist if it is? An example of idealism (sophism) vs realism (operationalism). The Greeks innovated in truth and the jews in lying. So, false promise of possibility or survival by suggestion (freedom from conformity, integration, paying costs of normative, institutional, territorial commons), false promise of ethics by non-coercion (psychological and personally controlled), rather than non-imposition (empirical, and controlled by those affected by your actions, and whether they retaliate). False promise (insinuation) of the nature of man, false promise of the function of state(assets), rule(conflict), government(cooperation in the production of commons). Real purpose? Undermining western civilization’s competition, cooperation, cohesion, by militarization, duty, and production of commons for high returns on those commons. Create the oppression myth in order to obscure free riding on the production of commons by others. Marx to undermine tripartism (cost of cooperation between the classes using markets under rule of law of tort), Rothbard to undermine the production of commons (cost). Friedan to undermine the family as an institution(cost) between men and women. Derrida undermine truth itself. Cultural Marxists (Frankfurt School) to undermine heroism, duty, honor, excellence, beauty, all of which are methods of paying costs of contribution to the commons. They work to create the myth (false promise) that physical law and natural law are oppressions by man. (In effect they’re calling our people ‘gods’.) And that western aristocracy oppresses man, rather than that western man has discovered optimums: work in concert with physical and natural law. Their strategy is to hide under myth of persecution and oppression rather than being prohibited from free riding, baiting into hazard, and undermining, while they profit from undermining societies by sowing discord. And while there is little shame in it, because this technique of deceit is very advanced, you my friend are just as much a useful idiot of the enemy of our people and our civilization as are the useful idiots of the marxists. So my unsolicited advice is that you learn their technique of lying, and my techniques of how to articulate, expose, and defeat their lies, and how to produce a constitution and body of law, that creates rule of law of tort preventing imposition on our demonstrated intersets. So that we can prevent not only the misuse of rule of law, state, court, and government to produced imposition of costs on us by well intentioned and unaccountable fools, and malicious groups whose sole group strategy for survival is the undermining more advanced peoples. And repeating a dark age in the modern world with Marxism, Libertarianism, Neoconservatism, Feminism, and Postmodernism by combining the Jewish method of deceit by sophism with pseudoscience as they did in the dark age of judaism, christianity and islam in the ancient with theology. We look at history and see the great achievements of western and eastern civilizations, vs the destruction of every other civlization that arose under agrarianism – without cognizance that technology of both Truth (western, eastern) and Deceit (middle eastern) evolved apace. And that the battle for the future is between another semitic dark age under another era of lies, poverty, and destruction, or another european renaissance and enlightenment under another era of truth, prosperity, and innovation. The enemy (purveyors of abrahamism), is just as sophisticated in deceit, undermining, ignorance, and dysgenia, as we are in truth, cooperation, innovation, and eugenia. So stop being a useful idiot, undermining the miracle of western civilization’s heroism, excellence, beauty, truth, duty, sovereignty, reciprocity, rule of law, jury, and markets in all aspects of life – that dragged mankind out of ignorance, poverty, hard labor, and disease. And instead, work to produce western, empirical, evidentiary, operational, logical, rational, and cooperative optimum and the commons that result, from the direction of dominance to the production of commons including truth, trust, property, and sovereignty. And be upfront and honest that eugenics has been our strategy, and that markets are softly and empirically eugenic, if we limit reproduction to those who can afford their reproduction by participation in those markets. But that we do not abandon those who by accident of birth or circumstance require extra-market organization – not possible to organize in the production of commons under the pricing systems incentives. We merely limit their reproduction to one child – and time cures all. Peoples who never developed agrarian norms, traditions, institutions and genetics,and remained migratory thieves(gypsies) or shepherds(arabs) on one end, or traders(jews) on the other, never developed the bias for commons and the returns on commons, and hence despotic empires. We did develop those traditions (Market Hierarchy), Hindustanis did(Caste hierarchy) less so, and the Chinese(Monopoly hierarchy) did. The persians were ruined by three waves of muslim raiders. The arabs, jews, gypsies never did. And the pacific and africans were behind. The world has only one enemy: the lies of the abrahamic peoples. The world has only one hero: the truth of natural law (aristotelian) peoples. Between is a spectrum.

  • A Detailed Explanation of Rothbard’s Sophistry

    –“I define anarchist society as one where there is no legal possibility for coercive aggression against the person or property of any individual.” —  Murray N. Rothbard

    —“There needs to be a detailed explanation as to how this statement is sophistry Curt Doolittle.”— Χρόνος @HliosX, Murray Rothbard @MurraySuggests [E]asily done. The Jewish method of deceit by sophism (pilpul), and Rothbard’s application of the Jewish method of deceit by suggestion: “I define a perfect object as one that has four dimensions” The fact that it’s possible to imagine but impossible to construct any object in four dimensions isn’t stated. Mathematical axioms are declarative (we make them up), literary consistencies (pseudo-axioms) are declarative (they are only analogies), and physical laws are existential (we merely discover them, and can’t make them up). It doesn’t matter what you define (axioms) it matters only what exists and can be constructed by actions (laws). Once we know the Jewish method of deceit by pilpul (sophism) the technique is obvious: false promise, baiting into hazard, advocated by pilpul (sophism, overloading, suggestion), defended by critique(undermining), via pretense of plausible deniability, and absent warranty. We then compare this to the Western test of Operational Construction: How can a thing be brought into being by a sequence of actions, and persist if it is? An example of idealism (sophism) vs realism (operationalism). The Greeks innovated in truth and the jews in lying. So, false promise of possibility or survival by suggestion (freedom from conformity, integration, paying costs of normative, institutional, territorial commons), false promise of ethics by non-coercion (psychological and personally controlled), rather than non-imposition (empirical, and controlled by those affected by your actions, and whether they retaliate). False promise (insinuation) of the nature of man, false promise of the function of state(assets), rule(conflict), government(cooperation in the production of commons). Real purpose? Undermining western civilization’s competition, cooperation, cohesion, by militarization, duty, and production of commons for high returns on those commons. Create the oppression myth in order to obscure free riding on the production of commons by others. Marx to undermine tripartism (cost of cooperation between the classes using markets under rule of law of tort), Rothbard to undermine the production of commons (cost). Friedan to undermine the family as an institution(cost) between men and women. Derrida undermine truth itself. Cultural Marxists (Frankfurt School) to undermine heroism, duty, honor, excellence, beauty, all of which are methods of paying costs of contribution to the commons. They work to create the myth (false promise) that physical law and natural law are oppressions by man. (In effect they’re calling our people ‘gods’.) And that western aristocracy oppresses man, rather than that western man has discovered optimums: work in concert with physical and natural law. Their strategy is to hide under myth of persecution and oppression rather than being prohibited from free riding, baiting into hazard, and undermining, while they profit from undermining societies by sowing discord. And while there is little shame in it, because this technique of deceit is very advanced, you my friend are just as much a useful idiot of the enemy of our people and our civilization as are the useful idiots of the marxists. So my unsolicited advice is that you learn their technique of lying, and my techniques of how to articulate, expose, and defeat their lies, and how to produce a constitution and body of law, that creates rule of law of tort preventing imposition on our demonstrated intersets. So that we can prevent not only the misuse of rule of law, state, court, and government to produced imposition of costs on us by well intentioned and unaccountable fools, and malicious groups whose sole group strategy for survival is the undermining more advanced peoples. And repeating a dark age in the modern world with Marxism, Libertarianism, Neoconservatism, Feminism, and Postmodernism by combining the Jewish method of deceit by sophism with pseudoscience as they did in the dark age of judaism, christianity and islam in the ancient with theology. We look at history and see the great achievements of western and eastern civilizations, vs the destruction of every other civlization that arose under agrarianism – without cognizance that technology of both Truth (western, eastern) and Deceit (middle eastern) evolved apace. And that the battle for the future is between another semitic dark age under another era of lies, poverty, and destruction, or another european renaissance and enlightenment under another era of truth, prosperity, and innovation. The enemy (purveyors of abrahamism), is just as sophisticated in deceit, undermining, ignorance, and dysgenia, as we are in truth, cooperation, innovation, and eugenia. So stop being a useful idiot, undermining the miracle of western civilization’s heroism, excellence, beauty, truth, duty, sovereignty, reciprocity, rule of law, jury, and markets in all aspects of life – that dragged mankind out of ignorance, poverty, hard labor, and disease. And instead, work to produce western, empirical, evidentiary, operational, logical, rational, and cooperative optimum and the commons that result, from the direction of dominance to the production of commons including truth, trust, property, and sovereignty. And be upfront and honest that eugenics has been our strategy, and that markets are softly and empirically eugenic, if we limit reproduction to those who can afford their reproduction by participation in those markets. But that we do not abandon those who by accident of birth or circumstance require extra-market organization – not possible to organize in the production of commons under the pricing systems incentives. We merely limit their reproduction to one child – and time cures all. Peoples who never developed agrarian norms, traditions, institutions and genetics,and remained migratory thieves(gypsies) or shepherds(arabs) on one end, or traders(jews) on the other, never developed the bias for commons and the returns on commons, and hence despotic empires. We did develop those traditions (Market Hierarchy), Hindustanis did(Caste hierarchy) less so, and the Chinese(Monopoly hierarchy) did. The persians were ruined by three waves of muslim raiders. The arabs, jews, gypsies never did. And the pacific and africans were behind. The world has only one enemy: the lies of the abrahamic peoples. The world has only one hero: the truth of natural law (aristotelian) peoples. Between is a spectrum.

  • As such private property evolves slowly from commons. That’s the evidence everyw

    As such private property evolves slowly from commons. That’s the evidence everywhere and always. Property itself is a commons. Not an ideal, not theological, but real.

    Why did property evolve? Division of labor – demonstrated interests, inheritance of tools, animals, land.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-01-15 21:43:48 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1217563057049755652

    Reply addressees: @HliosX @Ozpin_88

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1217562749338890240


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    @HliosX @Ozpin_88 2) reality is that ethics are MADE by necessity within a political context. They aren’t ideals (imaginary). The scope of property is discovered and normalized. Rights are made by creating courts to adjudicate them. You have to produce a polity that can survive opposition.

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    @curtdoolittle

    @HliosX @Ozpin_88 2) reality is that ethics are MADE by necessity within a political context. They aren’t ideals (imaginary). The scope of property is discovered and normalized. Rights are made by creating courts to adjudicate them. You have to produce a polity that can survive opposition.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1217562749338890240

  • 2) reality is that ethics are MADE by necessity within a political context. They

    2) reality is that ethics are MADE by necessity within a political context. They aren’t ideals (imaginary). The scope of property is discovered and normalized. Rights are made by creating courts to adjudicate them. You have to produce a polity that can survive opposition.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-01-15 21:42:35 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1217562749338890240

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    @HliosX @Ozpin_88 1) So you’re avoiding the test right? Ethics exist only within what is possible in the context.Ethics of hunter gatherers, early farmers,subsistence farmers, agrarian revolution farmers, industrialists, and technologists are different for a reason. You are FIRST bound by reality.

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    @curtdoolittle

    @HliosX @Ozpin_88 1) So you’re avoiding the test right? Ethics exist only within what is possible in the context.Ethics of hunter gatherers, early farmers,subsistence farmers, agrarian revolution farmers, industrialists, and technologists are different for a reason. You are FIRST bound by reality.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1217562446942081024

  • 1) So you’re avoiding the test right? Ethics exist only within what is possible

    1) So you’re avoiding the test right? Ethics exist only within what is possible in the context.Ethics of hunter gatherers, early farmers,subsistence farmers, agrarian revolution farmers, industrialists, and technologists are different for a reason. You are FIRST bound by reality.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-01-15 21:41:23 UTC

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  • We’re trying to figure out how to outlaw this kind of behavior in the sense that

    We’re trying to figure out how to outlaw this kind of behavior in the sense that it’s a misdemeanor by defamation, b/c AFAIK it’s privatizing others attention (theft), slander (theft-fraud), and obscurantism (fraud), as is all undermining (reputation destruction). All GSRRM. https://t.co/FDuVgnZhZB


    Source date (UTC): 2020-01-15 19:26:22 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1217528471016083460

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    If only he had the resolve to say to these critics “I’m sorry, how many comets have you landed things on?” https://t.co/M9gX26ibiF

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1217519712592154624

  • THE 20TH CENTURY ECONOMIES IN CONTEXT – AND HOW TO FIX THEM WITH PROPERTARIANISM

    THE 20TH CENTURY ECONOMIES IN CONTEXT – AND HOW TO FIX THEM WITH PROPERTARIANISM

    You know, they called what we do today “Jewish economics” in the pre-war period because it favored investors at the expense of the middle classes (which in those days just meant ‘families’). Keynes was reading MARX, and just removed all references from his book (the general theory) before publishing. Keynes used mathematics (he was first and foremost a mathematician specializing in probability) to give us his elegant simplification of the economy, but he put no measures in place to control it’s abuse – and of course, and Hayek didn’t refute him, and no one produced a limit, so the government just took ‘presumption of growth from presumption of consumption’ as license to convert Keynes’ explanation of how to get out of postwar crisis with how to maximize spending by pushing risk downstream and consuming all institutional, behavioral, normative, physical, and human capital.

    That limit was a balance sheet, and full accounting of investments and returns. In other words, to maintain the MEASUREMENT that both the GOLD STANDARD and RULE OF LAW had made possible at the cost of inability to react to shocks.

    This isn’t to dismiss his aggregate theory which is, like all economics, hydraulic. And it isn’t to defend the classical theory, which presumes rational actors, rather than bounded rationality within the limits of our frustration budgets. (We used commercial consumption to sedate ourselves during what has been a long period of social disintegration all of which decrease mindfulness and increase stress, create dysfunctional infantilized ‘woke’ children, reduce our commons into barbarism, loneliness and horrors in old age.)

    We spent thousands of years incrementally building rule of law leaving only a markets, and in a century we have destroyed rule of law, markets, and our social, institutional, and worst of all, genetic capital.

    You can’t imagine how much advertising and that evil box in your living room has contributed to destruction of our civilization. But THOUSANDS of thinkers predicted it. The British were right with their BBC – which horrifies the libertarian remnant in me.. But it’s because the left (cognitively female) always and everywhere seeks to create consensus to undermine because it cannot produce and innovate itself. As such the parasite pursues ‘the pulpit’ from whence it conducts it’s false promise, baiting into hazard, as a means of undermining the order and the capital structure of the people who DO produce.

    Now, I have no problem with censorship in the Russian and Chinese and Turkish models, if it’s censorship of GSRRM, baiting into hazard, and advocacy of capital consumption or underclass reproduction or limiting upper class reproduction – all things that affect the balance sheet (capital). But the court must be there to defend the truth, and the law has to tolerate truth regardless of cost. In other words, it has to be ILLEGAL to suppress truthful statements if it’s Illegal to undermine.

    This kind of test wasn’t possible until Propertarianism.

    But it’s possible now.

    And you can’t imagine (I can and it overwhelms me) how different a world would be if we ended all the f—king lying – including the lying of false promise baiting into hazard, and advocacy of consuming capital.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-01-15 15:42:00 UTC

  • today are 19th century Russian serfs, in a gig economy – they don’t own anything

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm5xxlajTW0—“Millennials today are 19th century Russian serfs, in a gig economy – they don’t own anything, or have any kids … because the public is intentionally economically ignorant … they’ve destroyed the middle class.”— Steve Bannon (today)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm5xxlajTW0Updated Jan 14, 2020, 7:20 PM


    Source date (UTC): 2020-01-14 19:18:00 UTC