Curt Doolittle

Theme: Institution

  • by Bill Joslin As far as I know, the difference between guilds and unions is tha

    by Bill Joslin

    As far as I know, the difference between guilds and unions is that guilds worked in both directions (internal-external). they policed the reputation (value) of the guild by training and policing merit within their ranks (the internally facing focus) as well as negotiated with the employers (collective bargaining i.e. external focused activiry)

    where as fraternities looked to insure their own against misfortune (pass the hat to help members in need) as well as policed membership (shine shame those acting immorally). i.e. and two way focus – internal-external. and they didnt seek to provide this insurance beyond their membership (provide what insurance they could by what resources the could collect internally)

    unions only focus externaly. they seek resources from the.employer based on moral justifications for “workers rights” opposed to insuring quality workers. i.e. they don’t bring anything to trade with outside of the threat of state enforced boycott). and don’t ensure quality of work via the merit of their membership but rather replace merit with seniority (disenframchises the most capable of the younger members, who generally then leave to either contract as independents and eventually start their own businesses – i.e. unions incentives the flight of their best and brightest out of their ranks).

    its an imbalance of malincentives offset by moral posturing.

    in other words – guilds and fraternities responded to and use market forces, while unions insulate from market forces.

    think of it this way – a.union which ensures they have the best and brightest within an industry brings to the table something of value to negotiate with employers.

    a union that only brings to the table the option of state enforced boycott equates to extortion.

    ive had many conversations with both owners and tradesmen in the toronto construction market, about establishing a guild, where by membership requires one to maintain a quality of service and skill – if you don’t meet this requirement, or deviate from guild approved best practices, then you’re tossed out.

    by doing so the guild represents quality control of the workforce, in exchange they can then demand better treatment of workers.

    in short, unions do not offer reciprocity.

    guilds as i envision it would be based squarely on reciprocity.

    reciprocity

    reciprocity

    reciprocity.

    Curt Doolittle – might be something of interest here. i.e. how unions would be transformed by reciprocity.

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 20:54:00 UTC

  • MORE ON GUILDS Guilds limited access, all but eliminated competition and preserv

    MORE ON GUILDS

    Guilds limited access, all but eliminated competition and preserved quality, which prevented optimum market pricing in exchange for optimum benefit to workers – because transport costs for goods were higher than local premium prices. So it’s more of an question of eliminating labor arbitrage.

    Now, other issues were important in the era because tools cost quite a bit, and it prevented the privatization of these tools.

    And they were also like guarantees of weights and measures in that Guild members found guilty of cheating on the public would be fined or banned from the guild.

    One of the policies I want to enforce is right-to-repair which will drive out the cheap goods, drive up prices and durability of goods, ending the disposable, and closing our competitive difference with japan and germany.

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 20:18:00 UTC

  • GUILDS AND MANAGERIAL CLASS? by Bill Joslin Guilds acted as a counter balance to

    GUILDS AND MANAGERIAL CLASS?

    by Bill Joslin

    Guilds acted as a counter balance to managerial classes.

    A manager didn’t obtain trade or craft specific knowledge. When asking a craftsman “how long for this?” or “how much material for that?”,the manager stood at the mercy of the craftsman’s knowledge. The manager had no way of calculating if the craftsman lied or not.

    In this relationship, the craftsman and guilds they belonged too, could use this barrier of knowledge to protect their own interests (or to abuse managerial ignorance)

    the introduction of stop-watch managers allowed the managerial class to break down the craftsman skill into menial tasks any 200 pound gorilla could perform with minimal training or knowledge. (mechanization did this too)

    this transferred productivity from skilled workers to unskilled workers and broke down the barrier of knowledge that counter balanced managerial incentives.

    It also transferred productivity from the middle to the lower classes.

    …and the result was a void in protecting worker interests.

    marx then applies lower class preference for sour grapes to inter class negotiation… and underclass, left unable to protect their interests because they had nothing to trade (skill) in negotiation with their uppers, lapped it up.

    The trade unions, armed with marxist sophistry, filled the gap which was left by the destruction of the guilds and traditional craftsman knowledge.

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 20:12:00 UTC

  • THE INQUISITION, THE CHURCH, IN CONTEXT. The purpose of the inquisition was: …

    THE INQUISITION, THE CHURCH, IN CONTEXT.

    The purpose of the inquisition was:

    … 1) to suppress factions (heresy) that would have weakened the church’s income (they were crooks), their political power, and the church’s ambition to take over as the central government of Europe

    … 2) to standardize punishment given the wide variety of punishments coming out of various localities.

    … 3) identify and prosecute muslims and jews that had pretended to convert but not,

    … 4) and finally it evolved serve as a bludgeon to prosecute enemies during the reformation – and we see this in the witch trials which were the end process of that process combined with pre-christian heathen rituals.

    We should note that the reason the french government was so bloodily overthrown was the same reason for the protestant reformation, which was the same reason for the Cathar / Albigensian crusade arose. The corruption because of the church’s attempt to imitate Byzantium, and Byzantium’s attempt to imitate the empires of the pre-muslim world: rule of ignorant illiterate people by superstition, instead of the western model of patriarchal, continuous domestication of man from slave, to freeman, to citizen, to senate.

    The church was at a level of corruption similar to that of late french monarchy, and what we see in present Washington.

    There is little difference today between Washington DC, Versailles, The church in France, and the church in Italy (where it did succeed in rule somewhat).

    My read of the inquisition is a protestant propaganda campaign, and a more modern atheist campaign. In effect the church tried for many centuries to rule Europe as it did Byzantium and it failed. It failed and the many sovereign states succeeded. Because a monopoly calcifies and feeds corruption and a market competes and defeats corruption.

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 19:46:00 UTC

  • Q: “… Unions.” The original purpose of unions was to protect the underclasses.

    Q: “… Unions.”

    The original purpose of unions was to protect the underclasses. The communists worked thru the labor unions. They used unions to drive class warfare. Unions were the largest contributors to the democratic party. Unions drove the democratic party into socialism and communism under marxism like identity politics under postmodernism. The remaining purpose of unions is to attempt to provide labor with above-middle class earnings not sustainable in the world economy. Unions are what drove business offshore (I was involved in that discussion back then). Trump is trying to drive business back on shore. Taxes WERE the the primary reason preventing re-shoring. Trump fixed that. Now unions are the primary reason preventing re-shoring manufacturing. The market and political problem with unions is collective bargaining law, not unions themselves (safety, work distribution). The primary problem with unions today is pensions which cannot ever be paid (and won’t be), not wages. Mandatory fees are the primary complaint by people opposed to the left. Unions are not resisting immigration, which is what is keeping wage down. Unions were advantageous during the brief postwar period where it allowed labor to capture a grater share of windfall profits – that no longer exist. Unions were necessary at least in the private sector to cause legal change in health, safety, and work load, but it was insurance companies and liability law that provided that change not unions. It is not clear what value they serve today in the private sector other than to limit competition for labor and raise wages and possibly lengthen careers preventing constant turnover by age discrimination. The general argument has been for years that any valuable function provided by unions (pensions) must eventually be provided by the state or it will disappear. The only reason collective bargaining still exists is that it’s politically impossible to get it past the government union competition, not the private sector. So unions are responsible for the overpayment of government costs, salaries, benefits, and pensions despite the unproductively of government, and preventing customer service, and preventing and rotation of government workers not providing government service. There is a reason the region around Washington is wealthy.

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 17:20:00 UTC

  • THE LAW CREATES TRUST, AND WE CREATE OBSERVANCE OF IT by Luke Weinhagen “Every m

    THE LAW CREATES TRUST, AND WE CREATE OBSERVANCE OF IT

    by Luke Weinhagen

    “Every man a Sheriff”

    In a high trust group this is not a request, nor a demand, it is a description.

    That is the nuance I’d like to add – that it is our individual willingness to apply the law, and to self-enforce, that is the difference not just the idea (other groups see those very same laws, interpret the same ideas, as weak points to exploit).

    The idea of law, and its individual observance and practice, allows trust to be the prime mover.

    (shifting from passive to active)

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-11 16:20:00 UTC

  • WHY THE AMERICAN MODEL “WORKED” by James Louis LaSalle Law is the glue that hold

    WHY THE AMERICAN MODEL “WORKED”

    by James Louis LaSalle

    Law is the glue that holds American society and culture together; we are not inherently smarter, nor do we have better natural resources than other countries.

    What we do have is an idea, that we’re infused with our entire lives: respect for the rule of law. We go to court, we pay our fines, we show up for jury duty, the vast majority of defendants out on bond turn themselves in for their sentences, rather than flee. And it’s just an idea.

    Kansas City, Missouri has around 500,000 people. It has a police force of 1100 officers, working in three shifts. At any given time, there’s perhaps 300 officers on duty. Policing half a million people. It’s only possible in a society where the citizens respect other citizens’ persons, property, and space.

    The govt’s primary purpose is to provide me infrastructure to enhance my ability to generate income, purchase property, and protect those activities from other citizens, other countries, and the govt itself. It actually does this so well that we dwell on trivial issues, like who has to bake who a cake. Which is actually pretty awesome when you think about it.

    Our system isn’t implemented with force. It’s there, lurking in he background, but it isn’t the prime mover. The IDEA of the rule of law is the prime mover. It’s why Americans find concepts like “sanctuary cities”, where the rule of law is suspended, utterly infuriating.

    I would say it’s one of the single greatest factors in the election of Trump. Nothing offends your regular American more than someone escaping Justice.

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-10 18:03:00 UTC

  • The church never did anything for good reason. Ever. Like any bureaucracy it it

    The church never did anything for good reason. Ever. Like any bureaucracy it it wanted a population of ignorant obedient labor it could rent seek from.

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-10 01:04:33 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1182099567501811713

    Reply addressees: @Protagoris7788 @FaithGoldy

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    @Protagoris7788 @FaithGoldy That’s not really true. Father’s, Brother’s Daughter marriage over generations is so.Repeated reproduction of the underclass is so.The church had no knowledge of genetics, they only wanted to give women property rights so that the church could more easily obtain land. That’s all.

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    @curtdoolittle

    @Protagoris7788 @FaithGoldy That’s not really true. Father’s, Brother’s Daughter marriage over generations is so.Repeated reproduction of the underclass is so.The church had no knowledge of genetics, they only wanted to give women property rights so that the church could more easily obtain land. That’s all.

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  • So no. The church just wanted to force the great families to hand over land so i

    So no. The church just wanted to force the great families to hand over land so it could rent it out. By the late middle ages the church had made 50% of the capital in europe dead. Printing, breaking the church, were as responsible for european recovery as was sail.

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-10 01:03:57 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1182099412962746368

    Reply addressees: @Protagoris7788 @FaithGoldy

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1182098971516395520

    IN REPLY TO:

    Unknown author

    @Protagoris7788 @FaithGoldy That’s not really true. Father’s, Brother’s Daughter marriage over generations is so.Repeated reproduction of the underclass is so.The church had no knowledge of genetics, they only wanted to give women property rights so that the church could more easily obtain land. That’s all.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1182098971516395520

    IN REPLY TO:

    @curtdoolittle

    @Protagoris7788 @FaithGoldy That’s not really true. Father’s, Brother’s Daughter marriage over generations is so.Repeated reproduction of the underclass is so.The church had no knowledge of genetics, they only wanted to give women property rights so that the church could more easily obtain land. That’s all.

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  • DEVELOPING COUNTRIES. It sounds horrible to you but the easiest answer is to hir

    DEVELOPING COUNTRIES.

    It sounds horrible to you but the easiest answer is to hire 10,000 American lawyers to run your courts. This is the same strategy ancient empires used by using people from remote parts of the empires to govern populations they had no knowledge of. It works perfectly in past and present.

    Everyone says they want good government, but they cannot have good government without good courts, and either soldiers or police who enforce the judgement of the court.

    The court constrains the government.

    Your constitutions are probably fine.

    Your government is probably not fine. it is a government.

    What makes the west successful is not our governments.

    IT IS OUR LAW. Law is a ‘Religion’ in for our people.

    Especially in America.

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-09 21:41:00 UTC