(yes I edit your quotes for grammar, spelling, sentence structure, terminology, and waffle words.)
(I just wish people would do the same for me. lol)
Source date (UTC): 2017-04-10 13:30:00 UTC
(yes I edit your quotes for grammar, spelling, sentence structure, terminology, and waffle words.)
(I just wish people would do the same for me. lol)
Source date (UTC): 2017-04-10 13:30:00 UTC
MEANS, ENDS ARE YOUR CHOICE
—“As I understand it Curt focuses on building a grammar from the ground up, as it were. Operational grammar staves off assumptions about the ends and emphasises inquiry into the means.”— Nicholas Arthur Catton
(I’m glad smart people follow me ’cause I can’t say some of this stuff as smartly as they do. 😉 )
Source date (UTC): 2017-04-10 12:11:00 UTC
DEFINITIONS OF THE WORD “LAW”
(and lesser things)
So, you want to hold to the definition of ‘involved’ as including the consequences of some action, rather than ongoing action, then I’m going to be forced to ask now someone is no longer involved?
I leave psychologizing, conflation, loading, framing, and overloading (acts of suggestion) to people engaged in deceit.
LETS UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENTATIVE METHOD OF MARXISM
I (correctly) call acts of ridicule, shaming, rallying, psychologizing, conflation, loading, framing, overloading, fictionalism (supernaturalism, pseudo-rationalism, and pseudo-science), straw-manning, straw-manning to avoid exposition, heaping of undue praise on unworthy heroes, slighting of worthy competitors – what they are: the techniques of Marxists and Feminists. What is this technique? There are only three means of coercion: force, cooperation (reciprocity, truthfulness, in argument in this case), and Gossip (attempts to create or eliminate opportunities). Ergo: Marxist/Feminist/postmodern substitution of argument is in fact, nothing more than *gossip*.
NOW FOR THE MEANING OF LAW (‘inescapable’).
1 – Law: a statement of perpetual continuity (determinism), insured by the forces (organizations) of nature or man(polity, or government).
2 – Law (physical): a statement of perpetual continuity (determinism), discovered by a process of testing(prosecuting) an hypothesis against reality,
3 – Law (Natural): a statement of perpetual continuity (reciprocity) insured by the forces of nature (natural law)
4 – Law (Common): a discovery (finding) of a violation of reciprocity, argued by a plaintiff, defendant, or prosecutor (hypothesis) of the findings of an inquiry by a judge (theory), that survives refutation from other judges (law), insured by a third party insurer of last resort (polity, government).
5 – “Law” (Command) A command issued by the insurer of last resort, insured (enforced) by that insurer of last resort.
6 – “Law” (Legislation): A contract on terms between members of ruling organization, issued by that organization, in its capacity of an insurer of last resort (self insurance).
7 – “Law” (Treaty): An agreement between insurers of last resort, under reciprocal promise of adherence and insurance.
Of these seven, command and legislation are not laws, but enforced as if they were laws. Treaties are uninsurable, because compliance is voluntary, unenforcible, and such agreements are, and always have been regularly violated – unless insured by an empire: a larger insurer of last resort.
SUMMARY
I don’t rely on fuzzy terminology to construct a pretense of argument in order to invoke moral indignation because I cannot make my argument by substantive means – in fact, my reputation, justly deserved, is for the exact opposite, usually including the ironic criticism ‘autistic’, because I specialize in the prosecution of deceptions carried out by those who practice elaborate gossip as a pretense for argument.
—“I don’t call that ‘involved’. It means we had an interaction. But to be ‘involved’ requires ‘persistence’. So you’re either ignorant of the terminology, not very bright, or engaging in rhetorical fallacy, or rallying and shaming in the usual neocon (marxist), libertarian(marxist), or socialist(marxist) tradition of conflation, heaping of undue praise, straw manning, and propagandizing.”—
Q.E.D. Criticism stands.
Thus endeth the lesson.
Curt Doolittle
The Propertarian Institute
https://www.facebook.com/MisesUK/photos/a.283608325389931.1073741828.251337711950326/309122929505137/?type=3
Source date (UTC): 2017-04-08 20:57:00 UTC
DOOLITTLE’S CHAINSAW: WHY WE USE OPERATIONAL LANGUAGE
by @Propertarian Frank
(better than I can say it)(this man is an artist)
We use consistent naming with consistent and unique delineation.
And we start constructing our language by naming actions and transformations, rather than using names for ‘ideals’ or ‘essences’ or ‘ontological’ primitives, which are characterized by their inaccessibility to observation (discerning through measurement).
You can tell if a language employs idealist concepts by subjecting them to Curt Doolittle’s Chainsaw (lol) : “what is the particular decision problem this concept solves, and what are the particular actions and transformations we use to achieve decidability?”
For instance, the concept ‘mass’, provides commensurability among physical objects of similar scale, and is used to decide a wide variety of questions from mechanics to pricing groceries.
The specific way in which we construct and use instruments to measure ‘mass’ constitute the particular actions and transformations that are named by the symbol ‘mass’ and its unit of measurement. (Just as standard library functions in programming languages compile to specific machine instructions, so do operational names compile to specific actions and transformations )
Thus, there’s no single concept ‘mass’, but rather a spectrum of it, determined, and limited by tools of measurement at different scales.
You can idealize ‘mass’ by treating it as if it isn’t limited and determined by measurement (action), but that doesn’t mean ‘mass’ in formal operational grammar deploys that idealism.
Doolittle’s Chainsaw lets you know if an idealism is completely devoid of operationalizable content or not. For instance, while ideal ‘mass’ can be salvaged (operationally defined), things like infinity, continuum are not.
This idealist approach to language (also called Platonism), as opposed to operational language, is the single largest source of error in all domains of human knowledge. From mathematics (infinity, uncomputable numbers), to physics, to economics, to law (e.g. property rights as unconstructed ideal attributes, equality), to philosophy (lol almost all of it), across all levels of intellect, thinkers evidently fall for it.
This is why Curt says widespread adoption of operationalism will be at least as large a leap as empiricism over rationalism, and rationalism over mysticism were.
Source date (UTC): 2017-04-07 21:14:00 UTC
—“I’m glad I learnt Latin, I’d never be able to cope with your sentence structure without it Curt LOL”—Claire Rae Randall
Curt Doolittle
lol. my sentence structure is also heavily influenced by the grammar of writing software, and the order of operations in mathematics.
Punctuation evolved to assist us in writing what would later be read aloud, or read as spoken.
Argument needs better punctuation.
I have a horrible desire to write with layers of parenthesis. lol
Claire Rae Randall
Aha! That software grammar is the added layer that often sticks in my mental comprehension processor and where my mind goes blank! But I do agree the grammar of expression is so important and is widely ignored, especially on the left. Why is that no surprise?!
Curt
lol
Source date (UTC): 2017-04-06 09:39:00 UTC
CAN YOU FIND THE LANGUAGE YOU NEED?
At number of people that I am close to, and who understand propertarianism well enough, have intuited, suggested, complained, or passionately argued, that a negative philosophy is not sufficient for them, because they intuit, want, and need ‘more’ than via-negativa on the one hand, and transcendence on the other. These people feel the need for a narrative that they can use to visualize, empathize with, some intuition or ideal.
I’ve seen others attempt to appropriate propertarianism to justify their priors only to realize that it helps explain but does not justify, and may ultimately falsify good portions of those priors. (Libertarians).
I’ve seen others who understand that natural law gives license for us to use violence to overthrow the current order, and restore our aristocratic order – whether or not the understand the epistemology, ethics, or anything else I’ve written.
I’ve seen others with religious conviction thrilled at the possibility of restoring our ancient order, only to be horrified that in restoring the church I would eradicate all semitic fictionalism (lying), and return to hero worship, of not only saints (submissives-reactors), but innovators (thinkers), and Warriors and Statesmen (dominants-actors). In other words, I would complete the reformation of christianity into a restoration of our native religion (Aryanism) that the Germans had tried to make.
A very small number of us just wish to understand, and to take power, and if necessary, to rule. I have produced what I want: a method of reforming the government. I
I’ve tried for the past two years, mostly at Josh’s insistence to solve this problem. And I have remained fairly constant in my intuition that we must supply narratives in multiple languages on top of natural law. And I think this is the challenge for those who understand but must either compose or select which narratives do that for them.
I believe that the only monopoly is the laws: the laws of nature, the laws of the limits of man, the laws of cooperation, and the law of testimony (truth). And that the only form of social order compatible with those laws is sovereignty, natural law, and markets in everything, as I have stated many times before.
I believe that we require a division of narrative as much as we have a division of comprehension. I believe that our ancestors were correct and it was their failure to discover natural law that made them vulnerable to the great lies.
I believe I can suggest a method of reforming the church both financially, institutionally, in doctrine, and in narratives.
I believe the restoration of that church will require the return to poly-heroism instead of a monopoly on submissiveness by the prophets and saints.
I believe it is necessary to restore poly-‘literature’ rather than monotheism, or any kind of theism. Although I can understand the need for theistic (supernatural) fiction, just as I myself understand and appreciate moral supernatural fiction (horror stories, scary legends, and myths).
I believe it is possible (although not by me alone) to select readings that advance narrative solutions that are, aside from their fiction, or fictionalism, compatible with natural law.
And I believe the simple need authoritarian supernatural, the ordinary need moral narrative, the average need philosophical narrative, and those of us above average need scientific narratives provided by the laws.
And I believe that these narratives are compatible if compatible by natural law.
And I believe that I cannot select those narratives by myself. I believe I cannot write them. I believe that in our history others have written all that need be written.
And I believe it is those who seek those narratives and who understand natural law sufficiently to judge those narratives moral or not, ‘coherently true’ or not, and not false by natural law, that must provide those readings.
Because I cannot possibly cover those literatures. In no small part because they fall on deaf ears, deaf empathy, deaf joys, and deaf fears. I have none of them
I will have done my duty to my people by writing the laws in the language that I need and understand. I will have done my duty to my class in providing the rules and method of rule. But I am not able to do serve my people in the survey of occult, supernatural, supernormal, heroic, martial, political, historic, poetic, verse – although I can, and in my age, assuming I live – manage the artistic.
The literature of our restoration exists. I have made the law. If you want to restore your civilization, and you want to provide those like you with a narrative, a via-positiva, then perhaps it is your duty, and your service, to your ambitions and your people, that you provide those parables.
Curt Doolittle
The Philosophy of Aristocracy
Source date (UTC): 2017-04-05 21:20:00 UTC
UNDERSTANDING THE WORDS OF GOD, AND THE MEANING OF THOSE WORDS ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
FWIW: There is a great difference between understanding the words of Men of God as they write and speak them, and understanding the words of God as he wrote them with the universe. Gods words are perfect, they are consistent, they are comprehensible with enough effort. But they are not simple. Once we understand God’s words, we must then understand God’s meaning. Understanding God’s meaning has been the struggle for men. And men have always been poor interpreters and translators of the divine. Today we understand Gods language better than ever before. But we understand God’s meaning perhaps less than before. And there are those who intentionally lie and deceive, precisely because Gods words are so difficult for man to interpret and translate. We live in a world constructed largely of lies on the one hand. And on the other, I am not sure we will like the meaning of the words of God once we understand them better. Why? Because god made man and woman, young and old, weak and strong, beautiful and not, rich and poor, ill and hale, dim and wise, ignorant and educated. He created a word that is only plentiful if we exist in small numbers. He created a universe which is vast, but that is dangerous to man. He gave us the ability to reason, but not wisdom and character. He gave us the ability to cooperate, but to be selfish. He gave us kindness and care, or the ability to punish and kill. So he gave us tools. But he requires that we cooperate in vast numbers, if we are to earn our way to sit beside him. The One Law he gave us to do so is Natural Law. That which we call ‘reciprocity’. But unless we save all of us, we may not save any of us. And it is this uncomfortable truth we must face: God allowed us to fail. And only together can we succeed. And this is the meaning of the existence of Natural Law.
Source date (UTC): 2017-04-04 08:17:00 UTC
“BEING” IN THE SPECTRUM OF EXISTENCE
Grammar.
1 – Existence: Persistence. Existence independent of experience,
2 – Observing: observation of phenomenon in existence.
3 – Acting: taking actions limited by existence.
4 – Imagining: the full set of pre-rational experiences
5 – Feeling: the full set of pre-cognitive experiences.
6 – Being(Experiencing): the full set of human experiences of existence. (including dreaming, daydreaming, fantasizing, free association, reasoning, calculating.)
7 – Reporting: narrating experiences.
Source date (UTC): 2017-04-03 17:19:00 UTC
ON PROPERTARIANISM’S COMMENSURABILITY OF MEANING
—“Curt: Why is linguistic commensurability most pertinent empirically? Is their evidence to suggest so or is this still purely hypothetical?”— Rik
Curt Doolittle
Well, let us take your sentence as an example:
—“Why is linguistic commensurability most pertinent empirically?”—
Translated:
Why do people who desire to communicate and cooperate need the same, and therefore commensurable, definitions if they are to report upon their observations if we are to report without ignorance, error, bias, and deceit?
Do ya see what I did there? I took all the words that LOOKED like you (people) understood what they mean, and I replaced them with what they mean in the consistent grammar of acting. Once I did that then the question answers itself.
The vast majority of our arguments in modernity can be reduced to poetry using pseudoscientific rather than moral, literary, or mythological verse.
I have tried to repair that fact with propertarianism.
Source date (UTC): 2017-04-03 10:35:00 UTC
A lot of language consists of suggestion. Education and literacy teach us a lot of ideas and terms that we use like children do, under the pretense of comprehension of them.
(worth repeating)
Source date (UTC): 2017-04-03 10:31:00 UTC