Theme: Grammar

  • “Operational logic requires demonstrated knowledge and everyone relies on their

    —“Operational logic requires demonstrated knowledge and everyone relies on their own available vocabulary. Which reveals something about the speaker, but is why it’s so hard for people without a whole lot of REAL knowledge or the precise means measurements to use (their vocabulary). But once it clicks…you can do it. Just a matter of differing speeds of success. It’s really hard for me. Takes me a while to produce.”— Adam

    It’s hard for everyone. But that’s why it’s such a good test.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-22 11:17:00 UTC

  • AWESOME P-HUMOR 😉 by Stephen Wells To be or not to be. That is the question. Wh

    AWESOME P-HUMOR 😉

    by Stephen Wells

    To be or not to be.

    That is the question.

    Whether tis nobler in the mind

    to suffer the slings and arrows of Leftist false grammar

    or take arms against a sea of operational struggles

    and by opposing, end them?

    Actor: Lawrence Olivier, Object grammar of P in Hamlet setting Subject: nerdy levity


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-22 11:03:00 UTC

  • IN OPERATIONAL GRAMMAR, SUBJECT = SUBJECT OF TESTIMONY —“I think “subject” ref

    IN OPERATIONAL GRAMMAR, SUBJECT = SUBJECT OF TESTIMONY

    —“I think “subject” refers to the concept in which the whole of the testimony describes, but through the description of operations by an actor or group of actors.”— Adam Jacob Robert Walker

    Well done!!!!!


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-22 10:43:00 UTC

  • MORE ON LEARNING OPERATIONAL GRAMMAR by What is the difference between an actor

    MORE ON LEARNING OPERATIONAL GRAMMAR

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    What is the difference between an actor and subject? My understanding of traditional grammar is that:

    “John threw the ball”

    Subject-verb-object

    Which you describe as

    Actor-operation-subject

    John is an actor in this case, and the “subject” (as I was taught in school, anyway).

    Another example:

    “The fruit fell from the tree”

    Subject-verb-object

    In this sentence, one might think the actor is gravity, or the wind. Since that is what caused the change in state.

    From a testimonial or vitruvian measurement, though, it would be more like:

    “I saw the fruit fall from the tree.”

    The actor is myself as an observer? And the subject is the fruit?

    Any clarification on terms “actor” and “subject”?

    by Adam Jacob Robert Walker

    You could consider the tree as an actor as well.

    The tree produces fruit.

    But a tree isn’t necessarily following incentives. But rather it’s “act” is a result of nature adaptations or mechanisms of survival.

    I think you are correct that you’d have to switch it to the orientation of the observer.

    I saw the fruit fall from the tree (actor-action), after I went outside to get my mail (incentive to go outside and observe), and the fruit splattered on my driveway (state change on the ground).

    I think “subject” refers to the concept in which the whole of the testimony describes, but through the description of operations by an actor or group of actors.

    by Bill Joslin

    In english grammar the subject is the agent subject-verb-object. the subject “acts upon” the object (side note: this distinction subject “that which acts upon”and object “that which is acted upon” lay the foundation for the initial use of the terms subjective, objective. prior to the 19th century of so, religion was considered the pursuit of “objective trusth” in that one would he changed by the truth (truth acts upon the seeker) and subjective truth was what one did when they sought truth to a specific ends (such as science investigates a particular phenomenon to eventually be able to do something with it). the rise of science (seeking truth to a specific ends) “killed” objective truth – this was the assertion in Horkhiemer and Adorno’ Dialectic of enlightenment.

    by Adam Jacob Robert Walker

    Nice. That puts it in a philosophical context for me. I wasn’t aware of all that.

    by Curt Doolittle

    [I promise I saw] [gravity cause] the fruit [fall/fell] [from the tree] [to the ground.]

    Promise, Testimony, Actor, Subject of testimony, Transaction.

    Use subject or object if you want, but my point is that we need to use “actor, and in the OP that I started this discourse with, I was making the point that we habitually start sentences with the subject being acted upon to provide context, and the cost of ‘thinking’ in operational terms is the extra step required to start with actor instead – which eliminates the problem of the verb to be from the sentence structure.

    If you have a difficulty with eliminating the verb to be, start with the actor not the object( or as I prefer, subject).

    ADAM IS CORRECT:

    Actor, Subject.

    —“I think “subject” refers to the concept in which the whole of the testimony describes, but through the description of operations by an actor or group of actors.”—

    Well done!!!!!


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-22 09:51:00 UTC

  • SIMPLE DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF OPERATIONAL LANGUAGE (or, why you don’t get it at f

    SIMPLE DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF OPERATIONAL LANGUAGE

    (or, why you don’t get it at first)

    Jason asks, “is this sentence correct ePrime?”

    We probably need to stop using the ePrime reference and simply teach people the steps to transforming fuzzy intuitive language to very clear operational language.

    The first step is eliminating the Copula (the connector): the verb to-be. This connector says “imply the connection” it does not state the connection. This is how ‘suggestion’ (deceit) is inserted into our otherwise very precise, english language. It’s the basis of all sophism.

    The second step, which may be necessary to complete the first step requires starting sentences with the subject rather than the actor – and this is what’s probably causing your struggle.

    P and ePrime ask you to think in terms of actor rather than subject. To put the actor before the subject in composing your “episode”. Thinking in, writing in, speaking in actors, adds a computational cycle, because the more advanced our thinking the more we’re thinking about subjects rather than actors. And the more ‘generalized’ our statement – which means the more masculine and analytic – the more the subject is the basis for context and the less the actor is the basis for content. So yes, operational language is slightly more burdensome, because it is more precise – at least until you habituate it.

    The Example:

    –“With the ability to protect it with violent defense, exercised at will, on an individual and group level, “—

    Change to:

    —At an individual or group level, [we / they] [can / develop the ability to] protect [it / or restate subject] with violent defense, exercised at will.”—

    Phrase:

    1 – actor

    2 – acted upon

    3 – consequence

    So:

    1 – Repeat with Collection of Phrases.

    2- Producing a Complete sentence.

    3- That explicitly states the COMPLETE transformation (Transaction)

    In other worlds:

    – Actor, Operation, Subject: “John threw the ball (to mark who caught it).”

    and not:

    – Subject, Actor, Operation: “The ball john threw (to mark who caught it.)”

    Language in operational terms is an accounting system

    That’s the secret of operational language “full accounting of changes in state”.

    Phrase (debit) Journal Entry , Phrase (credit) Journal Entry

    Sentence = Ledger Entry.

    Paragraph = Income Statement

    Story = Balance Sheet

    If you begin to see ‘the grammars’ in everything you will finally understand why P is so powerful … and it will, at some point, horrify you with wonder at it all.

    Language is a means of measurement.

    Arithmetic is a very precise language

    Accounting is just a very precise language.

    Geometry is another precise language

    Programming is another precise language

    P-Law is another precise language

    P-Testimony is the most precise language possible

    All language functions as a system of measurement using measurements provided by the human body. and accounting of changes in state in that measurement system. Why? Because the brain does nothing other than detect and predict, changes in state.

    We can either account well(operational language), or account poorly(ordinary language), or account deceptively (postmodern/feminist language)

    I hope this helps because it is the summary of the meaning of operational prose.

    ====

    attn: Bill Joslin


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-21 09:00:00 UTC

  • SIMPLIFIED MAP OF THE GRAMMARS How do we demarcate math, science, law, economics

    SIMPLIFIED MAP OF THE GRAMMARS

    How do we demarcate math, science, law, economics, history, philosophy, literature, mythology, and theology?

    (Best diagram I can do with unformatted text)

    ANALOGY AND CONFLATION

    ^

    | … INFLATION

    |

    … … Literature …-> Mythology …-> [Theology]

    .

    … Essay … Philosophy … [Sophistry]

    .

    Law ->Economics ->History ->[Deceit] |->[FICTIONALISMS|

    .

    … Science …-> Technology …-> [Pseudoscience]

    .

    … … Mathematics …-> Logic …-> [illogical]

    |

    | … DEFLATION

    v

    MEASUREMENT AND DISAMBIGUATION

    As far as I know this diagram cannot be false.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-18 13:14:00 UTC

  • CRITICIZING AND REFORMING “LOGOS” I disagree with every use of Logos I’ve ever s

    CRITICIZING AND REFORMING “LOGOS”

    I disagree with every use of Logos I’ve ever seen.

    As far as I know it’s original use meant ‘order identifiable and explicable through reason’. Which doesn’t tell us anything, unless we have some claim on the truth or falsehood of it.

    Instead, civilizations evolve strategies (group competitive strategies), and persist them through metaphysical (unstated, presumed, unconscious) premises(laws of nature), and paradigms (plots), advanced by archetypes (characters) that anthropomorphize (mirror and amplify psychological or behavioral traits), which recursively reinforce the group strategy as if it is a law of nature.

    For this reason I argue that metaphysics as a discipline ‘doesn’t exist’ so to speak and that there is only one testifiable answer to existence (realism, naturalism, operationalism, empiricism, rational choice, reciprocity, transcendence) and that all else is fiction(parable, myth, literature) or fictionalism (theology, sophistry, pseudoscience) that either mirrors or does not mirror that most parsimonious testimony and strategy.

    Man must act. To act he must remember. With memory he must predict futures to choose from to act upon. To choose from those futures he must reason. To continuously improve his choices continuously reducing costs, he must improve his reason. To reason at any scale other than the trivial requires forms of categorizing, organizing, predicting, and calculating. Language allows us to calculate increasing complexity. Cooperation lets us produce disproportionate returns on our actions. Cooperation on increasingly complex production requires collective ends within which to discover cooperative means. Narratives allow us to calculate collective means of cooperation within complex social groups. Complex social groups using the same narratives make the majority of tie-breaking decisions in favor of the group strategy. It is the countless decisions we make in favor of the group strategy when it costs little or nothing to do so, or at least the not-prohibitive to do so, that produce our group strategy more than does any organized and intentional production of commons.

    So I don’t use “logos” because of it’s nonsense connotations. Instead I create an operational description of the world and therefore continue my war on nonsense terms from history that were invented to wow nonsensical ignorant people into the pretense that some presumed good was in fact true as well as presumed good.

    See what I did there?

    😉


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-18 09:11:00 UTC

  • Russell’s Paradox Isn’t

    Russell’s Paradox Isn’t. https://propertarianism.com/2020/02/17/russells-paradox-isnt/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-17 22:11:54 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1229528929360392195

  • Russell’s Paradox Isn’t.

    [R]ussell’s Paradox (a version of the liar’s paradox), is not a paradox, it’s an ill formed statement (Grammatical error) because it failed the test of continuously recursive ambiguity – which is what ‘grammar’ means: rules of continuous recursive disambiguation. Nearly all seemingly challenging philosophical questions play on some variation of the verb to be. In the case of the liar’s paradox in all its forms, it’s not a paradox it’s constructed ambiguity. Words don’t mean things. People mean things. They use language well or not well to state their meaning – or their deceit. A number is the name of a position, and beyond the base (glyphs) we use ‘Positional Naming’. We can name anything we choose with a position in an order just like we can name anything else. All that matters is that we all rely on the same names in the same order. Numbers exist as names. That’s it. Nothing else. Mathematics is ill-grounded (vulnerable to grammatical errors) because of sets (platonic, ideal, verbal) rather than operations (gears and geometry). If you explain all mathematics using positional names, gears, and geometry (as it was invented) you do not expose yourself to grammatical errors. The same is true of philosophical (verbal) statements. If you state all statements as promises, in operational prose, in complete sentences, without the ‘cheat’ (or lie) of the verb to be, you will have a very difficult time make grammatical errors. So the entire analytic program (sets) was a failure. So was the attempt to discover a via-positiva scientific method. This is because all epistemology is falsificationary and adversarial, with surviving truth propositions competing in networks of paradigms themselves in falsificationary and adversarial competition. Most of philosophy is little more than sophistry. (really) Everything that isn’t sophistry is in the domain of science including that science we call ‘grammar’.   === COMMENTS ===

    —“Not quite, as Godel presented a mathematical model of this phenomenon. You cannot reduce this to mere positivistic linguistics. On which point, are you not assuming Chomsky’s universal grammar with your definition of grammar? If so, this has been shown to be unempirical.”—Rik Storey

    I didn’t say anything like that. I’m saying that he’s correct. I haven’t met anyone other than the author of the best book on the subject that understands the limit of Godel’s argument: (a) we identify new constant relations (experiences) (b) we invent new references (c) we invent new paradigms (d) we require grammars to talk about them (e) we can make ungrammatical statements. Godel said it. Turing said it. Kripke said it. So there is no closure to logic without appeal to the operational, empirical, limits and completeness, and even then there is only closure on falsification not justification. There is nothing positivistic in P. It’s purely falsificationary. Either it survives adverstarial competition by the terms stated in testimonialism or it doesn’t. If more than one does, then we just don’t know and nothing else can be said.

    —“Oh very well. In that case, we must still follow Godel’s Platonism because of the assumptions we make in a purely sceptical and empirical worldview. That or nihilism are our two consistent options.”—Rik Storey

    I can’t translate that into operational language. I don’t know what you mean. “…we must still follow Godel’s Platonism…” (Godel’s argument was operational, by applying the technique of pairing off (the foundation of mathematics in positional names) producing unique names for operations. Not all statements available in all grammar and vocabulary will be decidable within that grammar and vocabulary. And he did this for the special case of addition as an example, under the presumption the model would hold. But all he is saying is that no language is closed (other than first order logics maybe. Same is true even for math. We can write formulae that are descriptive but not deducible (we can’t write a proof)). and how does that relate to: “purely skeptical and empirical” (Permanently contingent, uncertain, cannot abandon continuous learning and adaptation?) and what do you mean by: “worldview” (means of understanding, predicting, decision making? paradigm?)

    —“I made a similar argument on a Philosophy page. Russell’s paradox is just a domain error. A barber in a set of barbers or a tree in a forest. In the objective empirical world, it’s just a grammatical error. In the abstract world of numbers, a set of all sets must contain itself. “All” being transcendent can break the normal rules.”—Andrew M Gilmour

    yep

  • Russell’s Paradox Isn’t.

    [R]ussell’s Paradox (a version of the liar’s paradox), is not a paradox, it’s an ill formed statement (Grammatical error) because it failed the test of continuously recursive ambiguity – which is what ‘grammar’ means: rules of continuous recursive disambiguation. Nearly all seemingly challenging philosophical questions play on some variation of the verb to be. In the case of the liar’s paradox in all its forms, it’s not a paradox it’s constructed ambiguity. Words don’t mean things. People mean things. They use language well or not well to state their meaning – or their deceit. A number is the name of a position, and beyond the base (glyphs) we use ‘Positional Naming’. We can name anything we choose with a position in an order just like we can name anything else. All that matters is that we all rely on the same names in the same order. Numbers exist as names. That’s it. Nothing else. Mathematics is ill-grounded (vulnerable to grammatical errors) because of sets (platonic, ideal, verbal) rather than operations (gears and geometry). If you explain all mathematics using positional names, gears, and geometry (as it was invented) you do not expose yourself to grammatical errors. The same is true of philosophical (verbal) statements. If you state all statements as promises, in operational prose, in complete sentences, without the ‘cheat’ (or lie) of the verb to be, you will have a very difficult time make grammatical errors. So the entire analytic program (sets) was a failure. So was the attempt to discover a via-positiva scientific method. This is because all epistemology is falsificationary and adversarial, with surviving truth propositions competing in networks of paradigms themselves in falsificationary and adversarial competition. Most of philosophy is little more than sophistry. (really) Everything that isn’t sophistry is in the domain of science including that science we call ‘grammar’.   === COMMENTS ===

    —“Not quite, as Godel presented a mathematical model of this phenomenon. You cannot reduce this to mere positivistic linguistics. On which point, are you not assuming Chomsky’s universal grammar with your definition of grammar? If so, this has been shown to be unempirical.”—Rik Storey

    I didn’t say anything like that. I’m saying that he’s correct. I haven’t met anyone other than the author of the best book on the subject that understands the limit of Godel’s argument: (a) we identify new constant relations (experiences) (b) we invent new references (c) we invent new paradigms (d) we require grammars to talk about them (e) we can make ungrammatical statements. Godel said it. Turing said it. Kripke said it. So there is no closure to logic without appeal to the operational, empirical, limits and completeness, and even then there is only closure on falsification not justification. There is nothing positivistic in P. It’s purely falsificationary. Either it survives adverstarial competition by the terms stated in testimonialism or it doesn’t. If more than one does, then we just don’t know and nothing else can be said.

    —“Oh very well. In that case, we must still follow Godel’s Platonism because of the assumptions we make in a purely sceptical and empirical worldview. That or nihilism are our two consistent options.”—Rik Storey

    I can’t translate that into operational language. I don’t know what you mean. “…we must still follow Godel’s Platonism…” (Godel’s argument was operational, by applying the technique of pairing off (the foundation of mathematics in positional names) producing unique names for operations. Not all statements available in all grammar and vocabulary will be decidable within that grammar and vocabulary. And he did this for the special case of addition as an example, under the presumption the model would hold. But all he is saying is that no language is closed (other than first order logics maybe. Same is true even for math. We can write formulae that are descriptive but not deducible (we can’t write a proof)). and how does that relate to: “purely skeptical and empirical” (Permanently contingent, uncertain, cannot abandon continuous learning and adaptation?) and what do you mean by: “worldview” (means of understanding, predicting, decision making? paradigm?)

    —“I made a similar argument on a Philosophy page. Russell’s paradox is just a domain error. A barber in a set of barbers or a tree in a forest. In the objective empirical world, it’s just a grammatical error. In the abstract world of numbers, a set of all sets must contain itself. “All” being transcendent can break the normal rules.”—Andrew M Gilmour

    yep