Theme: Governance

  • Disambiguation of Government (Bankruptcy)

    [D]isambiguation:

    1. Military > State > Government > Commons > institutions-organization
    2. Rule of Law > Law > Courts > Contracts > Biz-trade
    3. Strategy+Tradition > Religion+Education+Academy+Media > Families/Consumers > People-consumption

    State (corporation holding assets) 1. Federal State -> Federal Government 2. … Regional State -> Regional Government 3. … … Territorial: County Corporation -> County Government 4. … … Market: Local Corporation -> Local Government If a state declares bankruptcy the creditors get screwed all or partly. The state has demonstrated incompetence in the management of state affairs, and then the creditors will seek higher interest rates in the future, and after a cycle or two governments ‘learn’ partly because they have evidence of the consequences after bankruptcy and no evidence prior to bankruptcy – just as we now have evidence of immigration, diversity, monetary policy, and democracy – evidence of failure seems to be necessary to prevent repetition of human hubris. The state as a monopoly on violence is evidently false because it was a construct of the westphalian peace. At present it’s falsified, just as it was prior to the westphalian peace. In other words it was always false. The state is a corporation. The institutions organize the use of assets. The owners of that corporation consist of a small number of people willing to use sufficient violence to prevent alternative organizations of institutions and assets. The people who govern may or may not constitute sufficient violence to do so. Usually they don’t. In china they do. In russia they do. Because the fear of chaos in those countries is the opposite of the love of opportunity in NE European civilizations. – something the rest of the world cannot comprehend – because they never developed trust or commons … as we did.

  • Where Does the Propertarian Party Fit Into the Propertarian Movement?

    Where Does the Propertarian Party Fit Into the Propertarian Movement? https://propertarianism.com/2020/04/24/where-does-the-propertarian-party-fit-into-the-propertarian-movement/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-24 18:16:21 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1253749637221154817

  • Where Does the Propertarian Party Fit Into the Propertarian Movement?

    By Nathen I have been thinking about where this political party fits into the movement as a whole quote a bit recently. P is fundamentally an intellectual, not political movement, but it has profound political ramifications. I consider myself a Newb so take this for what it’s worth, but my observation is that Curt Doolittle is focusing primarily on developing leaders and teachers who can spread and grow this next intellectual revolution. While leaders like John Mark (who provided my introduction to P through his Youtube videos), ITV, Brandon Hayes, Bill Joslin and Noah Revoy are sharing the intellectual and political ideas of P with many people, there is not, as far as I know, a grassroots, boots-on-the-ground organization yet. In my opinion, this is the purpose of the Propertarian Party. While the internet is an incredible tool for sharing information and connecting people, we are hardwired for face-to-face interaction. If our goal is to enact real change, it must happen in meatspace, not in the electronic ether. While display and word can happen electronically, these must eventually be translated into deed. Deeds require hands and muscles and sweat and blood. If we talk but do not act, we are useless and have no place in the Pack. The effectiveness of political parties is in being able to look your neighbor in the eye and speak to him about how your political ideas can improve his life. Face-to-face communication is visceral, not just intellectual. People can experience your conviction, or lack thereof, much more completely. Consider the possibilities of setting up a table at a gun show (once we start having them again). Having the opportunity to meet dozens, if not hundreds of like-minded people from your area and talk to them about the solutions that P offers. People are familiar and comfortable with political parties. This may make us more approachable. The Party may also be a good vehicle for fund-raising. Another consideration is what happens after we achieve victory (we will) and the Propertarian Constitution, or as I think of it, the Revitalized US Constitution is enacted? How will these 1000 Aristocracies bloom? Having multiple local Propertarian Party organizations already in place will make the transition quicker and more focused. It all comes down to Boots On The Ground. This Group is a great way to start the process, but ultimately it is each of our responsibility to begin talking to people in our communities and introducing them to Propertarianism. The Propertarian Party is a vehicle to make it easier to start that conversation, but WE must be it’s advocates. We must each be willing to speak the difficult and uncomfortable truths directly to another person knowing we may anger or offend them and that we may get yelled at or even physically assaulted. Are you ready and willing to stand in front of another man and speak the truth he needs to hear even if it upsets him? Are you ready to deal with GSRRM right in your face? I am. Do you have the courage to stand up in front of a group of strangers and tell the truth regardless of cost?

  • Where Does the Propertarian Party Fit Into the Propertarian Movement?

    By Nathen I have been thinking about where this political party fits into the movement as a whole quote a bit recently. P is fundamentally an intellectual, not political movement, but it has profound political ramifications. I consider myself a Newb so take this for what it’s worth, but my observation is that Curt Doolittle is focusing primarily on developing leaders and teachers who can spread and grow this next intellectual revolution. While leaders like John Mark (who provided my introduction to P through his Youtube videos), ITV, Brandon Hayes, Bill Joslin and Noah Revoy are sharing the intellectual and political ideas of P with many people, there is not, as far as I know, a grassroots, boots-on-the-ground organization yet. In my opinion, this is the purpose of the Propertarian Party. While the internet is an incredible tool for sharing information and connecting people, we are hardwired for face-to-face interaction. If our goal is to enact real change, it must happen in meatspace, not in the electronic ether. While display and word can happen electronically, these must eventually be translated into deed. Deeds require hands and muscles and sweat and blood. If we talk but do not act, we are useless and have no place in the Pack. The effectiveness of political parties is in being able to look your neighbor in the eye and speak to him about how your political ideas can improve his life. Face-to-face communication is visceral, not just intellectual. People can experience your conviction, or lack thereof, much more completely. Consider the possibilities of setting up a table at a gun show (once we start having them again). Having the opportunity to meet dozens, if not hundreds of like-minded people from your area and talk to them about the solutions that P offers. People are familiar and comfortable with political parties. This may make us more approachable. The Party may also be a good vehicle for fund-raising. Another consideration is what happens after we achieve victory (we will) and the Propertarian Constitution, or as I think of it, the Revitalized US Constitution is enacted? How will these 1000 Aristocracies bloom? Having multiple local Propertarian Party organizations already in place will make the transition quicker and more focused. It all comes down to Boots On The Ground. This Group is a great way to start the process, but ultimately it is each of our responsibility to begin talking to people in our communities and introducing them to Propertarianism. The Propertarian Party is a vehicle to make it easier to start that conversation, but WE must be it’s advocates. We must each be willing to speak the difficult and uncomfortable truths directly to another person knowing we may anger or offend them and that we may get yelled at or even physically assaulted. Are you ready and willing to stand in front of another man and speak the truth he needs to hear even if it upsets him? Are you ready to deal with GSRRM right in your face? I am. Do you have the courage to stand up in front of a group of strangers and tell the truth regardless of cost?

  • RT @ThruTheHayes: A body of policy changes & law, a project plan, shareholder ag

    RT @ThruTheHayes: A body of policy changes & law, a project plan, shareholder agreements, & a constitution for function; or it’s shit-talk.…


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-24 17:18:09 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1253734990996819969

  • RT @ThruTheHayes: The ONLY reason we needed representatives in the past: communi

    RT @ThruTheHayes: The ONLY reason we needed representatives in the past: communication and distance problems.
    -@curtdoolittle
    (but not any…


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-24 17:18:04 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1253734970444648449

  • THE STATE AS A MONOPOLY ON VIOLENCE IS EVIDENTLY FALSE. The westphalian peace re

    THE STATE AS A MONOPOLY ON VIOLENCE IS EVIDENTLY FALSE.

    The westphalian peace resulted in the demand between states that the state maintain a monopoly on violence. The muslims do the opposite and ended the westphalian peace.

    The state cannot in fact and never has had, a monopoly on violence. It still doesn’t. It just tries. What defines a state is not it’s monopoly on violence but it’s capacity to produce the incentives that produce order with violence among those incentives.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-24 14:11:00 UTC

  • Harsh Words on Conspiracy

      Let me tell you how the world works. People who need organizations are not those with power. People who need ‘societies’ are not those with power. People who heed religions are not those with power. People who need ideologies or philosophies are not those with power. People with power have LOTS OF PEOPLE around them giving them power and asking them for power. And everyone giving, getting and distributing power, is working in his or her self interest. And the business, financial, government sector is just trying to make make money by keeping people consuming, while academic sector is sucking their dicks, and the military is seeking opportunity to scare people into giving them money. Here is what people in power do: They maintain the power economy that keeps them in power. When they meet outside their power economy, they talk on three levels at once. – Trivial niceties to signal fitness for cooperation – Sharing information about opportunities and risks using subtleties, in order to obtain information that they can use or gain favor on future opportunities by giving what can be used by another. – identifying opportunities for minor – cost neutral – changes by each that together would increase the gains of each. Average people can’t imagine how simple the world is nor how tediously, boringly, EMPIRICAL the people who run the world are, nor how much the grownups DUMB SH-T DOWN so the morons keep working and buying. You live in a world of trivial posturing because you and everyone around you has no power or meaning. People with power have the opposite condition. They are soaking in power meaning and opportunity and can only afford the mental time to invest in the best opportunities for their limited attention. The don’t have to signal or posture like people who have no power or meaning. Do you know why? because resources to maintain power economies are always scarce. Because power economies are always in competition keeping the price of power high. The world is full of grownups with power They have power becuase people gave it to them. They maintain power becuase people keep giving it to them. People in power are funnels for concentrating power in places where int can have impact – just like the military concentrates forces to win a battle, or just lke a hundred people pass the bucket to concentrate their efforts in a division of labor. And those grownups are tediously boring. Because by and large they’re engaged in accounting. And using accounting as a nervous system. And occasionally investing in opportunities that take a long time to bring to fruition. And you can tell yourselves all sorts of paranoid lies to convince yourself that you understand the world. But that is all you’re doing. Conversely,there are people in activism, media, academy, politics, religion, and the state, and those that seek privileges from the state to VIOLATE reciprocity for one excuse or another. That is the left. The left has no power so it conspires to obtain power. That’s what LEFTIST MEANS: conspire to obtain power by non meritocratic irreciprocal means. What’s wrong with the world: 1. The only thing wrong with the world at any given time is the organization of incentives in relation to human capital – knowledge, norms, culture, and demographics. 2. Money is how we incentivize people. 3. Law is how we engineer the organization of incentives. 4. War (violence) is how we engineer the opportunity to use law to organize incentives. Everything else is some sort of kindergarten game. And you conspiracy kiddies don’t get anywhere near the ridicule you deserve. (((They))) are following instincts and programming, which we know because women use exactly the same technique via the state as (((They))) use in usury. Instincts are not conspiracies. That doesn’t mean there aren’t conspirators. It means that our idiocy at spreading capitalism democracy and rule of law is just as idiotic as their spreading globalism and socialism, pseudoscience, boating into hazard, and parasitic financialism. The animal follows its instincts until trained otherwise by his betters. In general, every person with any power in this world is following obvious rational incentives. All the bad “conspiracy stuff” happens at the bottom and middle where people don’t have power but want to use some stupid cheat in order to get it. Most of us feel the need to join organizations of all kinds, whether in our minds, in social, in charity, in business, or in political, in order to obtain some sense of agency control and therefore meaning in our lives – but that is all it is. The search for meaning because POWER DISTANCE IS TOO GREAT FOR US TO HAVE REAL MEANING. And that is what I”m out to change. Power distance restores meaning and eliminates the opportunity for evil. Reducing Power distance it puts the civil society back to work in its self defense. Scale is always bad.

  • Harsh Words on Conspiracy

      Let me tell you how the world works. People who need organizations are not those with power. People who need ‘societies’ are not those with power. People who heed religions are not those with power. People who need ideologies or philosophies are not those with power. People with power have LOTS OF PEOPLE around them giving them power and asking them for power. And everyone giving, getting and distributing power, is working in his or her self interest. And the business, financial, government sector is just trying to make make money by keeping people consuming, while academic sector is sucking their dicks, and the military is seeking opportunity to scare people into giving them money. Here is what people in power do: They maintain the power economy that keeps them in power. When they meet outside their power economy, they talk on three levels at once. – Trivial niceties to signal fitness for cooperation – Sharing information about opportunities and risks using subtleties, in order to obtain information that they can use or gain favor on future opportunities by giving what can be used by another. – identifying opportunities for minor – cost neutral – changes by each that together would increase the gains of each. Average people can’t imagine how simple the world is nor how tediously, boringly, EMPIRICAL the people who run the world are, nor how much the grownups DUMB SH-T DOWN so the morons keep working and buying. You live in a world of trivial posturing because you and everyone around you has no power or meaning. People with power have the opposite condition. They are soaking in power meaning and opportunity and can only afford the mental time to invest in the best opportunities for their limited attention. The don’t have to signal or posture like people who have no power or meaning. Do you know why? because resources to maintain power economies are always scarce. Because power economies are always in competition keeping the price of power high. The world is full of grownups with power They have power becuase people gave it to them. They maintain power becuase people keep giving it to them. People in power are funnels for concentrating power in places where int can have impact – just like the military concentrates forces to win a battle, or just lke a hundred people pass the bucket to concentrate their efforts in a division of labor. And those grownups are tediously boring. Because by and large they’re engaged in accounting. And using accounting as a nervous system. And occasionally investing in opportunities that take a long time to bring to fruition. And you can tell yourselves all sorts of paranoid lies to convince yourself that you understand the world. But that is all you’re doing. Conversely,there are people in activism, media, academy, politics, religion, and the state, and those that seek privileges from the state to VIOLATE reciprocity for one excuse or another. That is the left. The left has no power so it conspires to obtain power. That’s what LEFTIST MEANS: conspire to obtain power by non meritocratic irreciprocal means. What’s wrong with the world: 1. The only thing wrong with the world at any given time is the organization of incentives in relation to human capital – knowledge, norms, culture, and demographics. 2. Money is how we incentivize people. 3. Law is how we engineer the organization of incentives. 4. War (violence) is how we engineer the opportunity to use law to organize incentives. Everything else is some sort of kindergarten game. And you conspiracy kiddies don’t get anywhere near the ridicule you deserve. (((They))) are following instincts and programming, which we know because women use exactly the same technique via the state as (((They))) use in usury. Instincts are not conspiracies. That doesn’t mean there aren’t conspirators. It means that our idiocy at spreading capitalism democracy and rule of law is just as idiotic as their spreading globalism and socialism, pseudoscience, boating into hazard, and parasitic financialism. The animal follows its instincts until trained otherwise by his betters. In general, every person with any power in this world is following obvious rational incentives. All the bad “conspiracy stuff” happens at the bottom and middle where people don’t have power but want to use some stupid cheat in order to get it. Most of us feel the need to join organizations of all kinds, whether in our minds, in social, in charity, in business, or in political, in order to obtain some sense of agency control and therefore meaning in our lives – but that is all it is. The search for meaning because POWER DISTANCE IS TOO GREAT FOR US TO HAVE REAL MEANING. And that is what I”m out to change. Power distance restores meaning and eliminates the opportunity for evil. Reducing Power distance it puts the civil society back to work in its self defense. Scale is always bad.

  • On “Playing The Game”

    Questions from Francis Zhou

    —“Curt Doolittle, thank you for explaining the way of the world in such simplicity and clarity. As a young man, I was enamored with the power game, and shaped myself to climb the corporate ladder.” —

    Hugs. I find it cathartic to think I can add value to others. πŸ˜‰

    —“However once I achieve some success in the game, I realized how trite and boring it all appeared to me. At every re-org, the people “in power” strive to hold onto what little power they have by appeasing to those at higher positions. I detested such game and decided to quit playing this power game and focus on my own game instead (to become best at what I do), which probably explains my relatively low position on the corporate ladder. …. And here within lies my confusion: was I wrong to pursue what I thought of as the “righteous path”, and should have continued to play the power game instead? Since even though I detest that game, it does conform to natural law, and thus exist for a good reason. And being in a position of power will allow me to make positive changes, instead of the current state where I am powerless to make those changes?”—

    Wrong? Wrong is the wrong word. πŸ˜‰ There is nothing wrong with the game once you figure out running a biz is always a team sport. You were unwilling to pay the cost of submission (loyalty, fealty etc) necessary to ladder climb in the team sport – AND – i’m guessing you weren’t able to add sufficient value in your career or position for others to cater to you (my strategy btw). So we all get what we purchase, and you purchased what you did. I don’t see a problem here other than all men should be educated when young so that they make the choice they prefer. So it’s not that you were wrong so much as you didn’t know that used to be traditional knowledge and was not taught you.

    —“I have another question wrt what you said at the end. If I understood you correctly, by “scale is bad” and “reducing power distance restores meaning and eliminates the opportunity for evil,” you meant by “flatten the organization”, therefore making every individual accountable for their contributions, we eliminate the parasitic elite/middle man whose only incentive is to maintain the power economy and extract rent from the system.”—

    Business vs government. I didn’t mean maximize flattening the organization – although that’s always what I do. The point is that as in any other system, to prevent the development of a bureaucracy (middle management) that seeks steady state and efficiency under the presumption of low rates of adaptation, rather than a project business with a general staff (military organization), under the presumption of continuous change. Similar to my recent complaints about education, cdc, who, and government – if an organization isn’t designed to produce projects, and to conduct war games – even such groups as accounting – and if you don’t have a general staff planning war games (scenarios) then you are running your organization whether business, industry, or government incorrectly – under the presumption of regularity and stasis, which does nothing except create opportunity for rent seeking, corruption, and filling all available time with nonsense OTHER than how to adapt to crises. We discovered this in software and manufacturing but it is still taking time working up through through the large industries, the financial sector, and government – which is what we’d expect really. So power distance requires an equilibrium state, as do markets and the law, between too little power distance so that there are no efficiencies of scale, and to much power distance so that rents seeking arises. in government, too small goernment is petty and too large government is corrupt. It’s been common sense for over two thousand years that small governments – probably on the scale of 5 million-10m are about optimum. I mean, Tokyo is a state in and of itself. So is NYC. So we should treat them as such.

    —“Yet as I understood it, humans invented bureaucracy (hence the power economy) as a necessary tool to organize society beyond Dunbar’s number. How will a society filled with millions of short power distance, flat organizations effectively compete with empires organized around huge bureaucracies marshalling overbearing resources within its borders? E.g., collection of states post Blue/Red separation vs single nation state like China; collection of smaller companies with flat org tree vs goliath like Microsoft and Amazon, etc. I have not found the answer after reading all the resources I came into contact with in the Propertarian community. If I missed anything, please point out the gaps.”—

    first, as I said low power distance is not no power distance, and high power distance creates corruption and rent seeking and fragility. So competing is – as in all things – choosing the optimum point of equilibrium between the two extremes of failure.