PROPERTY AS A HUMAN BEHAVIOR by Bill Joslin A demonstrated definition of property doesn’t result in a less precise criteria for deciding property. The demonstrated definition: i.e. the investment to seek a future benefit to the extent one would seek restitution or retaliation if said investment has been imposed upon, damaged or destroyed. This definition has two sides to it – the investment (which is demonstrated) and the willingness protect the investment. Another way to describe property is the term “demonstrated interests”. By this we have a clear means of calculating (not interpreting) property and a measure for imposiition. People would not be able to claim their feelings as a property because there is no demonstrated investment. The demonstrated definition of property closes the door to discretionary interpretation (abuse) and opens the door to calculation. It accomplishes the opposite of what you are concerned about. So think of it this way – the point of a demonstrated definition of property wasn’t to expand property rights beyond material possessions etc. (This isn’t a ploy.) It begins with clarifying the causes for human conflict, i.e. what inspires retaliation and why do we retaliate. By doing this it becomes clear older versions of property definitions (possession i.e. property equates to ownership, exclusive control) and mixed labour theories (material becomes property when we mix our labor with it) are partially correct but highly flawed. Simply put, property exists as a behaviour humans exhibit toward objects. And once the behaviour was discovered then it became clear that humans behave this way toward more than just objects. Our language use exemplifies this. We use the possessive for all sorts of things which we don’t consider property by traditional definitions… my wife, my daughter, my religion, my idea, my friend etc… And in all of these cases we have investment and willingness to maintain (reinvest), protect if threatened, and retaliate if damaged. So this isn’t word games, it runs deeper with thicker foundations than just “changing definitions”. (Much like “health” is an abstract, it is also something we’ve incrementally discovered, a demonstrated definition of property exists as an incremental discovery of a real abstraction.)
Theme: Demonstrated Interests
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Property as A Human Behavior
PROPERTY AS A HUMAN BEHAVIOR by Bill Joslin A demonstrated definition of property doesn’t result in a less precise criteria for deciding property. The demonstrated definition: i.e. the investment to seek a future benefit to the extent one would seek restitution or retaliation if said investment has been imposed upon, damaged or destroyed. This definition has two sides to it – the investment (which is demonstrated) and the willingness protect the investment. Another way to describe property is the term “demonstrated interests”. By this we have a clear means of calculating (not interpreting) property and a measure for imposiition. People would not be able to claim their feelings as a property because there is no demonstrated investment. The demonstrated definition of property closes the door to discretionary interpretation (abuse) and opens the door to calculation. It accomplishes the opposite of what you are concerned about. So think of it this way – the point of a demonstrated definition of property wasn’t to expand property rights beyond material possessions etc. (This isn’t a ploy.) It begins with clarifying the causes for human conflict, i.e. what inspires retaliation and why do we retaliate. By doing this it becomes clear older versions of property definitions (possession i.e. property equates to ownership, exclusive control) and mixed labour theories (material becomes property when we mix our labor with it) are partially correct but highly flawed. Simply put, property exists as a behaviour humans exhibit toward objects. And once the behaviour was discovered then it became clear that humans behave this way toward more than just objects. Our language use exemplifies this. We use the possessive for all sorts of things which we don’t consider property by traditional definitions… my wife, my daughter, my religion, my idea, my friend etc… And in all of these cases we have investment and willingness to maintain (reinvest), protect if threatened, and retaliate if damaged. So this isn’t word games, it runs deeper with thicker foundations than just “changing definitions”. (Much like “health” is an abstract, it is also something we’ve incrementally discovered, a demonstrated definition of property exists as an incremental discovery of a real abstraction.)
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Its completely logical. International shared interests, domestic competing inter
Its completely logical. International shared interests, domestic competing interests.
Source date (UTC): 2019-08-21 01:41:33 UTC
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@WordswithSteph @JohnDWestbrook @PalmerReport I find interesting that the right screams if there is anything said about Israel
But they hate American Jews.Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1163953933297049600
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Meaning they were demonstrably inferior, and those who could compete were demons
Meaning they were demonstrably inferior, and those who could compete were demonstrably superior, and that the central problem is one of self perceived status as inferior.
The solution is separation, separate political, economic and status systems.
Which is how we evolved.
Source date (UTC): 2019-08-19 13:19:24 UTC
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@SignHexa @NoahRevoy @StefanMolyneux The only possible counter proposition is that a given group is of such failure in genetics, ability, habits, culture, religion, and institutions, that it cannot engage in productive, voluntary cooperation with others.
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@SignHexa @NoahRevoy @StefanMolyneux The only possible counter proposition is that a given group is of such failure in genetics, ability, habits, culture, religion, and institutions, that it cannot engage in productive, voluntary cooperation with others.
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YOUR FRAME IS UTILITARIAN AND CORRESPONDS TO YOUR DEGREE OF AGENCY, AND YOUR AGE
YOUR FRAME IS UTILITARIAN AND CORRESPONDS TO YOUR DEGREE OF AGENCY, AND YOUR AGENCY YOUR DEMONSTRATED ABILITY
Points of view don’t matter. Votes do. Money does. Budgets do. Demographic distribution does. “Our” folk are a for profit polity. Eliminate the others, eliminate political competition for power, restore the constitution and natural law so these things must be negotiated, and we’re all good.
The right uses data. They just use HYPERBOLE to illustrate the kantian imperative of ‘what if a lot of people do this”? and that’s why they (we) use hyperbole. Because it changes the MORAL INTERPERSONAL CONTEXT into the POLITICAL CONTEXT.
So I disagree.
Empirical is empirical is empirical.
Period.We frame our world by our agency. Those of us who have had power and responsibility and wealth think at political and economic scale. SImple people don’t.
That’s why we have middle class philosophy and aristocratic class law, and lower class religion: differences in agency and different demands from our peers. simple, market, and political
Source date (UTC): 2019-07-26 14:22:07 UTC
Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/102508195155044727
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It means that the only reality is reciprocity, and that people demonstrate deman
It means that the only reality is reciprocity, and that people demonstrate demand for different paradigms that suit their degrees of agency. You and I can learn anything and do whatever we set our minds to. This is not true of, or possible for, all. Hence markets and law.
Source date (UTC): 2019-07-26 00:38:32 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1154551542575316992
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@curtdoolittle @EPoe187 Well, I guess that means there’s no way to distinguish echo chambers from reality?
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@gaidhealtachd Sorry man. No way to tell. … Ok, so yes I agree we we predict,
@gaidhealtachd Sorry man. No way to tell. … Ok, so yes I agree we we predict, report, and demonstrate preferences both positive and negative, and that predicted, reported, and demonstrated preferences sometimes match.
Source date (UTC): 2019-07-12 22:42:42 UTC
Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/102430891152876263
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In my ‘propertarian’ understanding of the world, people identify and seize oppor
—In my ‘propertarian’ understanding of the world, people identify and seize opportunities that are in their interest. the point at which it becomes, shall we say, ‘conscious’ is determined by just how ‘conscious’ each of us is in our given time preference. 😉 —
Source date (UTC): 2019-07-12 19:24:22 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1149761437465743360
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“We’re in a demographic debt. Paying the debt back right away when we can afford
—“We’re in a demographic debt. Paying the debt back right away when we can afford it always works best.”—Martin Štěpán
(priceless)
Source date (UTC): 2019-06-26 14:14:30 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1143885249283264512
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I don’t think so – no. we don’t use ‘personal property’ but the opposite, imposi
I don’t think so – no. we don’t use ‘personal property’ but the opposite, imposition of costs upon demonstrated investments.
P is very deep. It takes bright people at least six months. It is not very different from Aristotle’s ambitions in scope.
Source date (UTC): 2019-06-25 13:27:00 UTC
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