Theme: Decidability

  • FYI: Our organization exists to outlaw lying in public, to the public, in matter

    FYI: Our organization exists to outlaw lying in public, to the public, in matters public – and yes it is possible to establish in law and decide in court.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-24 05:00:58 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1849315124416553091

    Reply addressees: @Sassafrass_84

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1849108126571671936

  • RT @curtdoolittle: @TheSumOfMonkeys @KaleWontSaveYou @LittleMammith What theorie

    RT @curtdoolittle: @TheSumOfMonkeys @KaleWontSaveYou @LittleMammith What theories cannot produce prediction only explanation? (All the impo…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-08 05:04:59 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843517925657063940

  • RT @curtdoolittle: @MattDoyleSmit @russianbotulism @LittleMammith The jury deter

    RT @curtdoolittle: @MattDoyleSmit @russianbotulism @LittleMammith The jury determines the outcome one of a debate – not the participants


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-08 05:04:16 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843517745977274747

  • If you have a debate issue of merit that is decidable then state it

    If you have a debate issue of merit that is decidable then state it.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-08 03:11:15 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843489303818879140

    Reply addressees: @MattDoyleSmit @russianbotulism @LittleMammith

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843488911915659432

  • The jury determines the outcome one of a debate – not the participants

    The jury determines the outcome one of a debate – not the participants


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-08 03:05:41 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843487906285125839

    Reply addressees: @MattDoyleSmit @russianbotulism @LittleMammith

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843487337000644638

  • There are multiple threads herein. I would win a debate. That does not mean you

    There are multiple threads herein. I would win a debate. That does not mean you agree. It means the jury would decide so.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-08 03:02:40 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843487145136378274

    Reply addressees: @MattDoyleSmit @russianbotulism @LittleMammith

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843486160561287348

  • “Either way, complicating an argument willingly is still not good, isn’t it?”–

    –“Either way, complicating an argument willingly is still not good, isn’t it?”–

    The opposite is true. Since it’s falsification that determines the truth content of a set of claims, and that justification like conflation determines the deceptive content of a set of claims, we can only falsify the set of alternatives sufficiently to leave a claim standing, which requires a breadth of supporting arguments necessary to do so.

    Since all but a fraction of humans have difficulty with other than single cause sequences, and no one below a certain threshold is capable of even one logical reversal, it means that without those of greater konwledge and ability assisting others in a descending hierarchy combined with those in the ascending hierarchy supplying ‘problems’ then the vast majority of people are incapable of significant thought other than mere imitation of what tactical influences that percolate through the commentariat.

    In other words (a) if we cannot agree on existence (b) if we cannot agree on scarcity, (c) if we cannot agree on teh good because of in-time experience vs over-time consequence, (d) if we cannot agree on demonstrated human behavior as self interested and acquisitional (e) if we cannot agree on neoteny, genetic load, natural selection, and its necessity then (f) we cannot possibly agree on anything else because those are the premises upon which all subsequent argument are dependent.

    This is the importance of shared understanding – a system of weights and measures reflecting the group evolutionary strategy of the population in response to others and the environment and the laws of nature – then we cannot seek compromises and trades (cooperation) and we are doomed to authoritarianism, civil war, or separation.

    My suggestion is that we emphasize separation (“Let a thousand nations bloom”) since there is no need to agree or compromise except in proximity within a polity. And as such like europe, the USA is too large to share social and political ambitions, and there is no strategic or economic utility in doing so. LIkewise europe is discovering this now and it’s producing the end of the attempt of the french to create a “USA out of Europe” using incrementalism of the EU, the currency, and policy.

    My job, which I openly state, is to provide those with the ability to engage in questions of such moment with the tools to do so, such that they can provide answers to those less able but just as willing – and so that together they can suppress the industrialization of false promise and deceit that has marked the public discourse of post 1914 western civilization, and the attempt at reproducing soviet authority to produce feminine > abrahamic > marxist > postmodern > feminist > woke uniformity – despite that it’s universally suicidal.

    Affections
    CD

    Reply addressees: @_Itsmrfoxy_ @geekprofessor @LittleMammith


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-07 15:35:50 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843314296669007872

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843308920942829996

  • RT @ThruTheHayes: IT’S ABOUT TO GET FUN @elonmusk don’t hide massive bans behind

    RT @ThruTheHayes: IT’S ABOUT TO GET FUN

    @elonmusk don’t hide massive bans behind the chaos to come; afford for adjudication of disputes so…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-09-24 03:30:02 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1838420603218596156

  • DEFINITIONS: ONTOLOGY (What Exists) AND TELEOLOGY (What Works) AND LIMITS (Crite

    DEFINITIONS: ONTOLOGY (What Exists) AND TELEOLOGY (What Works) AND LIMITS (Criteria for Decidability) IN NATURAL LAW

    In the paradigm, vocabulary, and logic of our work on the Natural Law, the terms Ontology and Teleology would require operational and naturalistic meanings consistent with the method of measurement and decidability we use to construct universally commensurable truths.

    Both terms must be freed from the philosophical baggage of traditional metaphysics and integrated into the pragmatic structure of Natural Law, where they represent distinct but interrelated dimensions of human perception, cognition, and action. Let me attempt to operationalize these concepts in that context:

    Ontology in the Context of Natural Law:
    Ontology traditionally refers to the study of being, existence, and the nature of reality. Within your framework, Ontology would instead refer to the universal set of constructible, operational truths that describe the existence and relations of objects (whether physical, informational, or social) within any system of perception or interaction.

    Ontology within Natural Law would mean the operational constructability of entities, relations, and phenomena within the universe, derived from first principles and evolutionary computation. It includes both what exists (existents) and what is possible to exist within the constraints of physical, behavioral, and cognitive reality.

    This would include everything humans can sense, perceive, and understand within the constraints of empirical observation, operational reduction, and reciprocity—everything from physical objects to social contracts to cognitive concepts.

    In simpler terms, Ontology is the set of all things that can be empirically, operationally, and reciprocally tested and constructed. It is “what is” or what can be decided to exist, in any domain, based on its fitness to survive adversarial falsification.

    In Natural Law, this ontology isn’t static or abstract; it’s dynamic, evolving as human cognition, cooperation, and understanding expand. Ontology is built by constructing knowledge through the adversarial process of decidability, and anything that can survive empirical falsification belongs to our ontology.

    Teleology in the Context of Natural Law:
    Teleology refers traditionally to the explanation of phenomena by their purpose or goal. Within your framework, Teleology would refer to the directional purpose or evolutionary outcomes that emerge from cooperative behavior and human action in service of optimizing reciprocity and decidability.

    Teleology in Natural Law would mean the adaptive consequences or purposive outcomes of actions, institutions, and laws, measured by their long-term fitness to preserve and expand human cooperation, reduce conflict, and sustain reciprocity.

    Rather than referring to an abstract final cause or inherent purpose (as in classical philosophy), teleology in your system would be an empirical measure of purpose and result, grounded in evolutionary outcomes. It evaluates “what works” by measuring its impact on the stability and advancement of cooperative human relations. Therefore, Teleology is operational and evolutionary, pointing to the fitness of strategies, systems, or rules in achieving cooperation and decidability at different scales.

    In simpler terms, Teleology within your work is “what succeeds”—the outcomes of human actions and institutions as they work to sustain human cooperation and reciprocity over time, measuring success by its ability to reduce harm, prevent irreciprocity, and foster cooperation.

    Limits Determine Decidability of “What Works” (Teleology):
    In order to avoid deception by the use of arbitrary criteria for decidability, we rely on clearly defined limits—those limited to human sense perception, action, and demonstrated consequences over time. These limits include cooperation, reciprocity, survival, innovation, and adaptation. By using these these natural boundaries as limits, we ensure that teleology—our understanding of “what works”—is based on observable consequences and the evolutionary success of actions, rather than subjective or ideological framing. Therefore, limits provide the necessary structure to test the fitness of our actions, ensuring decisions are rooted in real-world outcomes, not abstract ideals.

    This explanation aims to clearly define how limiting criteria ties directly to natural consequences and prevents deception through arbitrary framing.
    Distinguishing Ontology and Teleology in Natural Law:
    Ontology is about what exists, constructively proven through decidability and falsifiability across all domains.
    Teleology is about what succeeds, proven through the adaptive fitness of behaviors, systems, and laws in achieving cooperation and reciprocity.
    They are connected in the sense that ontology defines the field of possible actions and existents, while teleology defines the directionality or purpose that guides those actions towards optimized outcomes within that field.

    Final Definition in Operational Terms:
    Ontology (What Exists): In my work, ontology refers to the set of operationally constructable entities—whether they are physical, social, or cognitive—that survive adversarial testing and are decidable within the framework of human perception and cooperation. It’s the domain of what can be known, based on falsification and testimony.

    Teleology (What Works): Teleology refers to the directional purposes or outcomes that human actions and institutions achieve over time, in service of maximizing reciprocity, cooperation, and conflict reduction. It’s the measure of success of actions within the ontology of possible realities, determined by their fitness to sustain human cooperation and reciprocity, innovation, adaptability, and evolution.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-09-13 19:09:00 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834670635361955840

  • Q: “Grok: Does philosopher and social scientist curt doolittle refer to natural

    –Q: “Grok: Does philosopher and social scientist curt doolittle refer to natural law as a legal system or as a system of decidability, or something else?”–

    Answer
    Curt Doolittle refers to natural law primarily as a legal system but with implications that extend into a system of decidability. Here’s a breakdown based on the information available:

    Legal System: Doolittle’s work emphasizes natural law as a framework for law that should be based on what is “correct” or morally justifiable through reason, aiming to guide human cooperation by reducing all rights to property rights and strictly constructing law from prohibitions on imposing costs that could lead to retaliation. This approach aims to create a legal system where laws are consistent with a scientific understanding of human behavior and cooperation, suggesting natural law as a basis for legislation, constitutional principles, and judicial decisions.

    System of Decidability: While not explicitly labeled as such, Doolittle’s philosophy involves creating a method or logic for deciding what constitutes law or truth. His mention of constructing arguments from first premises to ensure infallibility in legal and philosophical discourse points towards a system where disputes can be resolved through a logical, empirical process. This implies that natural law, in his view, serves not just as a legal code but as a method for deciding disputes or truths based on a set of foundational, universally applicable principles.

    Something Else: Beyond these, Doolittle’s approach to natural law could be seen as a philosophical and ethical framework for societal organization. His discussions often touch on broader themes like the nature of truth, the role of law in civilization, and critiques of contemporary political and legal systems. This suggests that natural law, for Doolittle, might also serve as a foundational philosophy for understanding and reforming various aspects of society, including education, governance, and even personal ethics.

    In summary, while Curt Doolittle views natural law predominantly as a legal system, his conceptualization also encompasses it as a system for deciding truths or disputes (decidability) and as a broader philosophical framework for societal reform and understanding.

    Reply addressees: @truthb4face


    Source date (UTC): 2024-09-10 18:34:46 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1833574854307811330

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1833562641123709309