Theme: Decidability

  • I have not expressed my preferences as universalism I’ve expressed evolutionary

    I have not expressed my preferences as universalism I’ve expressed evolutionary computation as the standard of comparison against which all decisions can be made by establishing and fully accounting between the lower limit (evocomp) the operation (cooperation) and the consequence (rate of evolutionary computation). It’s just mathmatics of the rate of the development of the conversion of energy per capita. There is no ‘opinion or preference’ there.
    My ‘advice’ is that the process of evolutionary computation, operations, and rate provide the maximum utility possible for a population in and across time, at the cost of market suppression of reproduction of the unfit.
    Again, that’s just math of the rate of development of the conversion of energy per capita into adaptation and evolution.
    It’s just math. sorry.
    You choose what to do with the math.
    I just tell you what the math is.

    Reply addressees: @AutistocratMS


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-15 19:53:15 UTC

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  • If you wish to abandon decidability in matters of conflict and instead embrace r

    If you wish to abandon decidability in matters of conflict and instead embrace relativism such that morality is not decidable but only utilitarian then that’s a choice you man to redefine a term to suit your bias – as does the left. you avoid first principles of decidability to…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-15 19:47:16 UTC

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  • Morality as decidability or moral utility in a polity or moral preference for an

    Morality as decidability or moral utility in a polity or moral preference for an individual in a polity? You like to conflate them. Have you been taking lessons from the left? 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-15 19:41:39 UTC

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  • “Truth transcends all, predates all and will out last all. It’s an aspect of God

    –“Truth transcends all, predates all and will out last all. It’s an aspect of God.”–

    A claim you can’t make and claim you do so truthfully since it is untestifiable without the pretense of knowledge. In other words, you have to lie to make that claim.
    You could, instead, claim that whether god exists or not, the laws of the universe are consistent at all scales of complexity, and we suffer the consequences of deviation from them. This is testifiable.
    In most cases ‘true’ means satisfaction of infallibility in the context in question. It does not mean we are possessed of perfect and complete knowledge from which to testify to the truth of our claims.
    We recommend christians or more fully, the devoted in the abrahamic spectrum of religions, use this justification so that they can’t be accused of lying, and therefore accuse all of the faithful of lying, and their religions as formulations of lies.
    Cheers

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    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-14 01:02:26 UTC

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  • I deal with decidability. Meaning I work in proofs. For me it’s just math and sc

    I deal with decidability. Meaning I work in proofs. For me it’s just math and sciencde. It’s not an opinion.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-09 22:46:25 UTC

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  • DEFINITION: JUSTICE? Q: Curt: –“[I]t has become obvious that the word “justice”

    DEFINITION: JUSTICE?

    Q: Curt: –“[I]t has become obvious that the word “justice” now has a practically unworkably ambiguous definition. It means wildly different things to different people. … What is the NLI definition of “justice”, and would definitions of key terms be part of a new Constitution, as to avoid ambiguity in the judiciary?”– @extra_thousand

    What a great question. And what you’re detecting is the conflation of ‘justice’ with ‘moral’ given that humans naturally determine ‘moral’ on their terms, not on universal terms. Hence why our work seeks to disambiguate these issues. And why we don’t use the term ‘justice’ for the same reason Socrates in Plato’s dialogues demonstrated the people had no idea what it meant.

    The term ‘justice’ is notorious for its ambiguity and relativity. My assumption given my work is that it means ‘restoration of an irreciprocity regardless of scale’ – a statement which I expect would require you to contemplate that scale – meaning that the concept of justice includes a broad spectrum of interpretations, influenced by philosophical, legal, cultural, and practical considerations.

    The point here being that the problem of the law, as a means of producing justice by the restoration of an irreciprocity requires an irreciprocity, encourages a proportionality, but specifically does not suggest equality. In other words goods are produced by eliminating bads sufficiently that there exist only good means remaining – and that goods are produce therefore by externality.

    Here’s an overview of the spectrum of definitions, followed by a discussion on which might be most operational in practice:

    SPECTRUM OF DEFINITIONS:

    Natural Justice (Behavioral Science) – Often referred to in legal contexts, involves principles like fairness, impartiality, and the right to be heard, which are considered inherent or ‘natural’.

    Procedural Justice (Process) – Relates to the fairness of the processes that resolve disputes and allocate resources. It stresses impartiality, transparency, and the right to a fair hearing.

    Corrective Justice (Civil Restitution) – Involves rectifying an imbalance or injury; this can be seen in legal systems where compensation or restitution is ordered to make amends for losses or damages.

    Restorative Justice (Criminal Restitution) – Emphasizes repairing the harm caused by criminal behavior through reconciliation between the offender and victim, and the community. It seeks to restore relationships and heal rather than solely punish.

    Retributive Justice (Punishment and Prevention) – Focuses on punishment for wrongdoing, often encapsulated by the principle of “an eye for an eye”. It aims at retribution, ensuring that wrongdoers face consequences proportional to their actions.

    Marxist – To – Woke Ambitions:

    The central problem: Loyalty to a polity it’s informal and formal institutions is dependent upon the choice of alternative polities versus the incentive to retain loyalty by preservation of reciprocity, meritocracy, and proportionality of returns.
    However, as societies evolve in complexity of means of research, investment, production, distribution, trade, contract and dispute resolution, production of commons, and legislation of rights and obligations, then the Nash Equilibrium, Pareto Rule, and Power Law, always exist and if reciprocity, and meritocracy are in sufficient exercise, then proportionality will exist.
    Meaning that all members of the polity are rewarded in proportion to their contribution to others. But at the high end all capital is at work in the organization of production distribution and trade for the benefit of others – and not capital-in-hand (money).
    As such, the natural differences between people, between sexes, between classes, between ethnicities, between civilizations, and between races will eventually be expressed as a hierarchy of competency in the service of others.
    And as such over time, as sophistication increases, only demographic composition (the size of the bottom classes) will determine who lags behind.
    And as such the only solution to the feminine-marxist-left’s ambition was the US ‘soft’ eugenics program that sought to limit the reproduction of those who were not productive enough to fail to impose costs upon others in their polity.
    This is, and will remain, the only ‘hard problem’ of politics until we restore some version of eugenics, or continue our downward progress in aggregate genetics until progress that provides prosperity ceases (as it has nearly done so in physics).
    As such civilizations, states, polities must deal with the genetic load of the bottom in relation to the comparative advantage of other polities, until one of those two conditions occur.

    Distributive Justice (Economic Theft) – Concerns the allocation of resources, rights, or privileges. It deals with fairness in how benefits and burdens are distributed among members of a society, often linked to concepts like equality, equity, or need.
    Note: This is an effort to couch economic theft from responsible producers to irresponsible non-producers.

    Social Justice (Normative Theft) – A broader concept addressing systemic inequalities in society, advocating for the fair treatment of all people in a society, particularly in terms of wealth, opportunities, and rights.
    Note: This is an effort to couch a claim for evading the necessity and utility of meritocracy in producing our quality of life, economy, institutions, and traditions such that one can obtain the benefits of responsibility despite evading responsibility for paying the behavioral costs of that responsibility.

    Transformative Justice (Systemic Theft) – Aims at not just restoring the status quo but transforming the conditions that lead to harm, focusing on root causes like oppression, violence, and inequality.
    NOTE: This is an effort to reduce responsibility for self regulation, discipline, and conformity to high trust western european norms and traditions from which all our comparative benefits as a civilization result. In other words, it’s just fraud.

    Operational Definition in Practice:

    Our definition of justice as “restoration of an irreciprocity regardless of scale” intersects with both corrective and restorative justice but with an emphasis on addressing any irreciprocity real or perceived at any level.

    Here’s how it might operate:

    Corrective on Small Scale: On an individual level, this could mean legal remedies like financial compensation or apologies for personal wrongs.

    Restorative on Community Scale: In community settings, it might involve mediation, community service, or programs aimed at reconciliation and healing between parties.

    Systemic on Large Scale: On a societal level, this could translate into policy changes, redistributive measures, or institutional reforms to address systemic injustices or historical inequities.

    In practice, the most operational definition often leans towards corrective justice because it’s easily quantifiable and actionable within legal systems.

    However, there’s a growing interest in restorative justice for its potential to heal rather than just punish, especially in community-based resolutions or in alternative dispute resolution mechanisms – despite that such interest only serves to encourage every behavior the law seeks to discourage: evasion of responsibility for self, family, and commons.

    Contemplation on Scale:

    Micro Level: Personal interactions where justice might mean simply acknowledging and correcting a misdeed between individuals.

    Meso Level: Community or organizational contexts where justice involves restoring balance through communal efforts or policies.

    Macro Level: National or global scales where justice might involve addressing historical injustices, economic inequalities, or international law violations, where the act of restoration might require significant systemic change or reparative measures.

    Cheers
    CD

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    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-09 19:21:16 UTC

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  • WHY THE WORLD SEEMS CHAOTIC – BECAUSE YOU’RE WRONG IN UNDERSTANDING IT. Rudyard,

    WHY THE WORLD SEEMS CHAOTIC – BECAUSE YOU’RE WRONG IN UNDERSTANDING IT.
    Rudyard, (all);
    Given I work in first principles, constructive logic, and universal commensurability, of course, I see reality as obvious – and humans operating by bounded rationality, and behavior deterministic under no more than thirty or so general rules.

    The only thing I’m ever surprised by is the degree of human innovation in vanity, magical thinking, folly, ignorance, error, bias, and deceit.
    People are really, really, really good at trying to rationalize reality such that they need not conform to it.

    The human intuition is to adapt as little as possible. But to demand others adapt to us instead. That is the underlying reason for why you, and they, and almost everyone, does not grasp the simplicity of reality.

    We confuse our biases in the moral terms under which we wish to cooperate, with the amoral rules of the universe which cares not whether we do so or not.

    Chaos is the result of incommensurability.
    Incommensurability exists only because we err.
    We err to avoid adapting.
    Our instinct is moral demand to others.
    But the universe will not reciprocate.
    And humans only will when convenient.

    Life: Adapt or die
    Our Lives: Adapt or suffer not doing so.

    Curt Doolittle
    The Natural Law Institute.

    Reply addressees: @whatifalthist


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-01 04:59:46 UTC

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  • Like Hayek, I understood the problem wasn’t economics, it was law. And the probl

    Like Hayek, I understood the problem wasn’t economics, it was law. And the problem of law was epistemology. And the problem of epistemology was the extraordinary sophistication of human deception.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-11-27 19:39:04 UTC

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  • (NLI) Another update: Filled two holes in the prompt. For those who are followin

    (NLI)
    Another update:
    Filled two holes in the prompt.
    For those who are following, we’re trying to determine if we can provide a framework of decidability that any of the third tier AIs can use without the necessity of training an individual instance. The pdf (book) contains…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-11-18 20:56:46 UTC

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  • (NLI) Another update: Filled two holes in the prompt. For those who are followin

    (NLI)
    Another update:
    Filled two holes in the prompt.
    For those who are following, we’re trying to determine if we can provide a framework of decidability that any of the third tier AIs can use without the necessity of training an individual instance. The pdf (book) contains all the rules. This doesn’t mean we won’t continue to train an instance, it does mean that the combination of our volume 1, and a prompt can address common questions. We’re quite certain that at Least Openai’s o1, can be trained to produce strict constructions of these arguments (proofs).

    Here’s the prompt with the modifications to address the epistemic responsibility and liability issues, as well as the externalities issues:

    Writing Prompt

    You are tasked with writing in the style of Curt Doolittle, founder of the Natural Law Institute, known for his causal, operational, and parsimonious prose. Your writing must prioritize precision, avoid redundancy, and focus on explaining concepts through logical causal chains. All arguments should derive from first principles, emphasize testifiability, and expose trade-offs inherent in any decision or claim.

    You must base your analysis on the framework provided in Natural Law Volume 1 – A System of Measurement, which includes:

    First Principles: Sovereignty, Reciprocity, Demonstrated Interests.
    Tests of Truth: Constructive logic, adversarial testing, testimonial truth.
    Methodology: Operationalizing claims into measurable, testable components.
    Purpose: Exposing hidden trade-offs, minimizing ignorance, error, bias, and deceit.

    Your goal is to construct explanations that:

    1. Reveal the causal structure of any moral, legal, or social claim.
    2. Expose trade-offs to clarify the costs and consequences of decisions.
    3. Ensure transparency and decidability, demonstrating how the system of measurement resolves disputes or contradictions.

    Task: Write an analysis or explanation on a complex moral or legal question (e.g., capital punishment, assisted suicide, property rights, environmental regulation, AI ethics) using the principles and methods from Natural Law Volume 1.

    Structure your response as follows:

    State the Problem Clearly: Frame the question or claim in operational terms.

    Use the Reference Source: If additional context or clarification is needed, refer to the PDF of Natural Law Volume 1 – A System of Measurement (if provided).

    Apply First Principles: Analyze the issue through sovereignty, reciprocity, and demonstrated interests.
    Use Operational Prose: Write in operational and parsimonious prose, avoiding ‘weasel words’ that evade responsibility for stating causal relations.
    Use E-Prime: Improve clarity and precision by avoiding the verb to be when stating causal relationships. However, prioritize readability if E-Prime constraints reduce understanding.
    Prioritize Causal Chains: Ensure all explanations follow a clear causal progression, emphasizing parsimony and operational testability.
    Expose Trade-Offs: Clarify the costs, risks, and benefits involved.
    Provide Decidability: Conclude with a testable and operationally sound resolution.
    Maintain Tone: Maintain an objective and dispassionate tone, characteristic of Doolittle’s writing.
    Reduce Constraints: Thoroughness in causal chains and unambiguity take precedence over brevity.
    Favor the Target Audience: Write for graduates, postgraduates, or those deeply interested in resolving political conflict.

    Additional Instructions:

    Analyze the issue of [moral/legal question] considering the full causal chain of consequences, including potential externalities and long-term effects. Address the epistemic limits of predicting future outcomes and how this uncertainty affects the assignment of responsibility and liability for the consequences of the decision.
    Analyze the externalities of both permitting and prohibiting [moral/legal question].
    Consider the potential effects on:
    1. Demographics and family structure
    2. Social norms and attitudes towards women, children, and sex
    3. Economic and political incentives for both men and women
    4. The evolution of moral and ethical standards within the polity

    Examples for Application:
    Capital punishment: Evaluate the infallibility of evidence and the proportionality of punishment.
    AI ethics: Address how AI systems can align with sovereignty and reciprocity in decision-making.
    Cultural relativism: Explore how demonstrated interests vary across civilizations while applying universal principles.
    [Add more specific examples or excerpts as needed.]


    Source date (UTC): 2024-11-18 20:56:45 UTC

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