Theme: Decidability

  • PROPERTARIANISM IS FALSIFIABLE BUT VERY DIFFICULT TO FALSIFY —“Since you pride

    PROPERTARIANISM IS FALSIFIABLE BUT VERY DIFFICULT TO FALSIFY

    —“Since you pride yourself in being honest, may I ask what exactly one would have to prove in order to fully refute Propertarianism?”—Josef Kalinin

    —(Quoting Curt): “And my argument is that the west invented Truth coherent with reality and a social order also coherent with reality, and that this is the reason for our military, political, economic, scientific, and intellectual competitiveness.”— Nick Zito

    —“Property En-Toto & Acquisitionism is quite central to the entire Propertarian framework. Provide a substantive refute of these and you may cause a dent. You can find the full scoped definitions of these at Propertarianism.com http://Propertarianism.com “—Nick Zito

    ^ What he said. In addition, add reciprocity and reasonableness(rationality) of choice. both of which i think are nearly impossible to refute.

    The reason it’s falsifiable but difficult to falsify is that it’s not so much a model as a description of constant relations from physics through sentience. Three points test a line so to speak, and the more points the more certain the line.

    1) The Grammars(metaphysics), 2) Acquisitionism + Property in Toto (psychology), 3) Propertarianism (Sociology), and 4) Natural Law of Reciprocity (Cooperation) are falsifiable but extremely difficult to falsify.

    Even if we state how it can be done by stating the premises(dependencies) those premises are extremely difficult to falsify. The reason being that they are continuously consistent, correspondent, possible, and coherent with everything we know to date.

    I mean… that was my objective. A scientific language of cooperation (ethics, morality, law, politics, group strategy)


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-09 13:20:00 UTC

  • Transcendence (Evolution) provides the penultimate decidability

    Transcendence (Evolution) provides the penultimate decidability.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-09 11:54:00 UTC

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status. All groups need the products of cults: strate

    Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    All groups need the products of cults: strategy, decidability, mindfulness, and in-group trust. All groups can achieve these products with Literature, Argument, Oath, Ritual, and Festival.

    But there is no evidence that such cults need falsehoods. And all evidence is that abrahamic monotheisms are nothing but the most destructive lies in history that we have struggled to overcome.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-08 17:40:09 UTC

  • ANSWERING A CRITIC 1) —“Are you saying Truth does not exist?”— Well, I claim

    ANSWERING A CRITIC

    1) —“Are you saying Truth does not exist?”—

    Well, I claim that without perfect knowledge of the universe it is quite difficult to know if we speak the Truth (the most parsimonious description possible). We may in fact speak truthfully and ‘the truth’ but we can never know so other than under reductio (trivial and irrelevant) criterial.

    (See Popper: Critical Rationalism, Critical Preference, and the analytic movement’s discovery that closure all but doesn’t exist.)

    2) —“Discredited”—

    You state that something I’ve said is discredited but not what. As far as I know I *cannot* err by asserting this series of statements above: that testimony can only insure that it’s warrantied against ignorance, error, bias, fraud, and deceit. One can testify truthfully because of due diligence, but one can never know he speaks ‘the truth’ (an ideal).

    Means, motive, opportunity, method of argument.

    3) SPEECH: TRANSACTIONS (Phrases, Sentences) PRODUCING CONTRACTS FOR MEANING (Stories).

    Speech is only consequential in a contract for meaning with others. Speech only evolves as a consequence of the search for contracts of meaning with others.

    4) TRUTH (DECIDABILITY) IS A MATTER OF LAW.

    Truth is a matter of law, and the grammars we call logics, mathematics, science, description, and narrative only assist us in the process of creating associations, followed by the process of disambiguation and deflation so that we can then eliminate ignorance error bias and deceit.

    Religious ‘truth’ and “philosophical truth’ are not in fact ‘truth’ but methods of either asserting a falsehood by justification (philosophical) or by authority (religious). As such they are universally statements of COMMAND FOR CONFORMITY (obedience).

    Or stated more pejoratively: Law asks we warranty our words or face restitution and punishment. Religion and Philosophy make excuses (deceits) such that speakers can AVOID warranty of their words (liability for deceits).

    There are only three means of coercion available to man:

    force, trade, and speech(deception).

    5) TRUTH (DECIDABILITY) SPECTRUM

    [T]AUTOLOGICAL TRUTH: That testimony you give when you promising the equality of two statements using different terms: A circular definition, a statement of equality or a statement of identity.

    [A]NALYTIC TRUTH: The testimony you give promising the internal consistency of one or more statements used in the construction of a proof in an axiomatic(declarative) system. (a Logical Truth).

    [I]DEAL TRUTH: That testimony (description) you would give, if your knowledge (information) was complete, your language was sufficient, stated without error, cleansed of bias, and absent deceit, within the scope of precision limited to the context of the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possessed of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony. (Ideal Truth = Perfect Parsimony.)

    [T]RUTHFULNESS: that testimony (description) you give if your knowledge (information) is incomplete, your language is insufficient, you have performed due diligence in the elimination of error, imaginary content, wishful thinking, bias, and deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and which you warranty to be so; and the promise that another possessed of the knowledge, performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony.

    [H]ONESTY: that testimony (description) you give with full knowledge that knowledge is incomplete, your language is insufficient, but you have not performed due diligence in the elimination of error and bias, but which you warranty is free of deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possess of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony.

    6) DEMAND FOR DECIDABILITY

    True enough to imagine a conceptual relationship

    True enough for me to feel good about myself.

    True enough for me to take actions that produce positive results.

    True enough for me to not cause others to react negatively to me.

    True enough to resolve a conflict without subjective opinion among my fellow people with similar values.

    True enough to resolve a conflict without subjective opinion across different peoples with different values.

    True regardless of all opinions or perspectives.

    Tautologically true: in that the two things are equal.

    7) WHAT DOES TRUTH MEAN? (AND WHAT IS ITS ADJECTIVE FORM?)

    Truth can only mean ‘descriptive testimony free of error, bias, suggestion, obscurantism and deceit’. In other words, speech, the semantic content of which corresponds with reality.

    One speaks truthfully, or untruthfully , or honestly or dishonestly.

    To be precise, one speaks honestly not having done due diligence, nor warrantying one’s speech. One speaks truthfully having done due diligence, and warrantying one’s speech.

    So you might speak honestly – not having done due diligence on your speech. But that is not the same as speaking truthfully – having done due diligence on your speech. So you might give your honest opinion, but that differs from doing diligence that such an opinion survives criticism – meaning correspondence.

    Both the physical sciences and law specialize in the art of due diligence. As an extension of law, anglo analytic philosophy attempts to specialize in the art of due diligence. Strangely, continental philosophy does the opposite.

    But if speaking truthfully requires that we perform due diligence, and warranty our speech, then how does one perform such due diligence? How do we test correspondence? In the most simple of terms, a truth statement must be:

    – categorically consistent (non conflationary)

    – internally consistent (logical),

    – externally correspondent (empirical),

    – operationally possible (existentially possible),

    – coherent categorically, internally, externally, and operationally (consistent across all tests)

    – fully accounted (you haven’t cherry picked cause and/or consequence)

    And if you want to claim it’s ethical and moral (and objectively legal):

    – rational: consisting of nothing but a series of fully rational choices

    – reciprocal: consisting of nothing other than productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary exchanges free of imposition upon others by externality.

    We use the word ‘Truth’ in many, many contexts. Most of them somewhere between a convenience and a dishonesty. True, honest, logical, and good are independent concepts frequently conflated to attribute authority where it is absent.

    8) CLOSING

    And given that I have been doing this for a very long time, I’m more than certain that you would have actually constructed some form of argument by now if you could – because capable people do so.

    I am a scientist (prosecutor) and philosophers and theologians are nothing more than snake oil salesmen selling harmful products that we have not yet outlawed from the market.

    Which is easily fixed.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-08 15:54:00 UTC

  • All groups need the products of cults: strategy, decidability, mindfulness, and

    All groups need the products of cults: strategy, decidability, mindfulness, and in-group trust. All groups can achieve these products with Literature, Argument, Oath, Ritual, and Festival.

    But there is no evidence that such cults need falsehoods. And all evidence is that abrahamic monotheisms are nothing but the most destructive lies in history that we have struggled to overcome.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-08 13:40:00 UTC

  • Demand for Decidability, Mindfulness, Calculability

    Decidability and mindfulness are market goods. We require these goods to compensate for a complex unpredictiable (kaleidic) world. Unfortunately, supernaturals (liars) have produced a MONOPOLY without a market where naturals (the west) produce a competitive market. It’s hard for people who’ve been indoctrinated into supernaturalism to imagine a world where they are regarded as children (as the chinese view christians, muslims, jews, and to some degree hindus) and where decidabilty and mindfulness are supplied by literature, history, science, and law, instead of FIctionalisms, Frauds, pseudoscience, magic, and arbitrary commands. But it is indeed understandable why people want monopolies in thought just as they want monopolies in government, just as they want monopolies themselves. But civilization evolved not by providing monopolies that are comforting but markets that are agitating. Environment > group strategy > norms/traditions/myths/festivals > (+ agrarianism = scale) > Increases in trade > demand for increasingly universal norms/traditions/ myths, /festivals > Polyculturism (polytheism) OR Monoculturaism (monotheism) > (+ development of reason, empiricism, science, empirical law) = Secularism From childhood to adulthood.
  • Demand for Decidability, Mindfulness, Calculability

    Decidability and mindfulness are market goods. We require these goods to compensate for a complex unpredictiable (kaleidic) world. Unfortunately, supernaturals (liars) have produced a MONOPOLY without a market where naturals (the west) produce a competitive market. It’s hard for people who’ve been indoctrinated into supernaturalism to imagine a world where they are regarded as children (as the chinese view christians, muslims, jews, and to some degree hindus) and where decidabilty and mindfulness are supplied by literature, history, science, and law, instead of FIctionalisms, Frauds, pseudoscience, magic, and arbitrary commands. But it is indeed understandable why people want monopolies in thought just as they want monopolies in government, just as they want monopolies themselves. But civilization evolved not by providing monopolies that are comforting but markets that are agitating. Environment > group strategy > norms/traditions/myths/festivals > (+ agrarianism = scale) > Increases in trade > demand for increasingly universal norms/traditions/ myths, /festivals > Polyculturism (polytheism) OR Monoculturaism (monotheism) > (+ development of reason, empiricism, science, empirical law) = Secularism From childhood to adulthood.
  • Curt Doolittle updated his status. DEMAND FOR DECIDABILITY, MINDFULNESS, CALCULA

    Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    DEMAND FOR DECIDABILITY, MINDFULNESS, CALCULABILITY

    Decidability and mindfulness are market goods. We require these goods to compensate for a complex unpredictiable (kaleidic) world.

    Unfortunately, supernaturals (liars) have produced a MONOPOLY without a market where naturals (the west) produce a competitive market.

    It’s hard for people who’ve been indoctrinated into supernaturalism to imagine a world where they are regarded as children (as the chinese view christians, muslims, jews, and to some degree hindus) and where decidabilty and mindfulness are supplied by literature, history, science, and law, instead of FIctionalisms, Frauds, pseudoscience, magic, and arbitrary commands.

    But it is indeed understandable why people want monopolies in thought just as they want monopolies in government, just as they want monopolies themselves.

    But civilization evolved not by providing monopolies that are comforting but markets that are agitating.

    Environment > group strategy > norms/traditions/myths/festivals > (+ agrarianism = scale) > Increases in trade > demand for increasingly universal norms/traditions/ myths, /festivals > Polyculturism (polytheism) OR Monoculturaism (monotheism) > (+ development of reason, empiricism, science, empirical law) = Secularism

    From childhood to adulthood.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-07 16:21:37 UTC

  • DEMAND FOR DECIDABILITY, MINDFULNESS, CALCULABILITY Decidability and mindfulness

    DEMAND FOR DECIDABILITY, MINDFULNESS, CALCULABILITY

    Decidability and mindfulness are market goods. We require these goods to compensate for a complex unpredictiable (kaleidic) world.

    Unfortunately, supernaturals (liars) have produced a MONOPOLY without a market where naturals (the west) produce a competitive market.

    It’s hard for people who’ve been indoctrinated into supernaturalism to imagine a world where they are regarded as children (as the chinese view christians, muslims, jews, and to some degree hindus) and where decidabilty and mindfulness are supplied by literature, history, science, and law, instead of FIctionalisms, Frauds, pseudoscience, magic, and arbitrary commands.

    But it is indeed understandable why people want monopolies in thought just as they want monopolies in government, just as they want monopolies themselves.

    But civilization evolved not by providing monopolies that are comforting but markets that are agitating.

    Environment > group strategy > norms/traditions/myths/festivals > (+ agrarianism = scale) > Increases in trade > demand for increasingly universal norms/traditions/ myths, /festivals > Polyculturism (polytheism) OR Monoculturaism (monotheism) > (+ development of reason, empiricism, science, empirical law) = Secularism

    From childhood to adulthood.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-07 12:21:00 UTC

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status. I ONLY WORK WITH AND I ONLY CONSTRUCT PARADIG

    Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    I ONLY WORK WITH AND I ONLY CONSTRUCT PARADIGMS CONSISTING OF CONSTANT RELATIONS THE REMAIN CONTIGUOUS ACROSS DISCIPLINES

    In other words, Logic > Mathematics > Physics > Chemistry > Biochemistry > Biology > Sentience > Consciousness > Reason > Calculation > Computation.

    So when you ask me “Hey have you hear of X nonsense?” I hear “Hey have you heard of this set of fictional paradigms that are discontiguous with existential, observable, testifiable, reality?”

    No. Fairy stories. I like fairy stories. But only when they are in fact fairy stories, not fairy stories claiming to be something else.

    There is only one most parsimonious paradigm. And that most parsimonious paradigm is that which consists of constant relations contiguous across the disciplines.

    CONTIGUOUS
    1 : being in actual contact : touching along a boundary or at a point – the 48 contiguous states
    2 : touching or connected throughout in an unbroken sequence – contiguous row houses contiguous vineyards
    3 : next or near in time or sequence -The fires were contiguous with the earthquake.

    DISCONTIGUOUS
    1 : not contiguous – intermittent · sporadic · broken · fitful · interrupted · on and off · disrupted · erratic · disconnected

    CONSTANT RELATIONS
    1 : properties shared between two or more referents.
    2 : properties remaining constant between two or more states.

    INCONSTANT RELATIONS
    1 : properties not shared between two or more referents.
    2 : properties not constant between two or more states.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-02 23:20:57 UTC