(I know I shouldn’t do this, but sometimes I just can’t help myself.)
Curt Doolittle
I am not interested in should, I am interested in shall. Not in persuasion but compliance. Not in compromise but in defeat. Not in tolerance but in deportation.
REPLIES
Vedek
Wow you sound just like Hitler.
Marilee
Superb. Thank you.
Ricky
heil mein fuhrer
Curt Doolittle
Men conduct arguments.
Men act on those arguments
Men pay the costs of their action
Little girls gossip, rally and shame. Infantilized boys imitate the gossip, rallying and shaming of little girls.
Vedek
Wow what a coward you are you lack the courage of your convictions.
Curt Doolittle
Perhaps – or it could be that I find irony in illustrative and amusing taunt to the infantilized male. wink emoticon
We either use our wealth of violence to prevent conquest, or we prefer present consumption to our perpetuation.
wink emoticon
Karen
What the hell are you talking about? are you drunk?
Ricky
No, he’s just stupid. You can fix ignorance, you cannot fix stupid
Curt Doolittle
It is a veritable certainty that I am both more intelligent and better read than you are. Which aside from statistical probability, requires no other evidence than ad hominem attempts at shaming rather than rational or empirical argument.
Karen
No your an idiot!
Ted
Curt Doolittle: Keep it up Curt!!! Wish I had your vocabulary, grammar, etc.
Curt Doolittle
^one grain of sand at a time. You will get there if you wish to. Just take all the time you need. smile emoticon -hugs
(I know I shouldn’t do this, but sometimes I just can’t help myself.)
Curt Doolittle
I am not interested in should, I am interested in shall. Not in persuasion but compliance. Not in compromise but in defeat. Not in tolerance but in deportation.
REPLIES
Vedek
Wow you sound just like Hitler.
Marilee
Superb. Thank you.
Ricky
heil mein fuhrer
Curt Doolittle
Men conduct arguments.
Men act on those arguments
Men pay the costs of their action
Little girls gossip, rally and shame. Infantilized boys imitate the gossip, rallying and shaming of little girls.
Vedek
Wow what a coward you are you lack the courage of your convictions.
Curt Doolittle
Perhaps – or it could be that I find irony in illustrative and amusing taunt to the infantilized male. wink emoticon
We either use our wealth of violence to prevent conquest, or we prefer present consumption to our perpetuation.
wink emoticon
Karen
What the hell are you talking about? are you drunk?
Ricky
No, he’s just stupid. You can fix ignorance, you cannot fix stupid
Curt Doolittle
It is a veritable certainty that I am both more intelligent and better read than you are. Which aside from statistical probability, requires no other evidence than ad hominem attempts at shaming rather than rational or empirical argument.
Karen
No your an idiot!
Ted
Curt Doolittle: Keep it up Curt!!! Wish I had your vocabulary, grammar, etc.
Curt Doolittle
^one grain of sand at a time. You will get there if you wish to. Just take all the time you need. smile emoticon -hugs
—I am not concerned with should, I am concerned with shall. Not in persuasion but compliance. Not in tolerance but in expurgation. Not in compromise but in defeat. Not in accommodation but deportation. And should deportation fail, not conciliation, but in hanging, impaling, crucifixion and pyres. There is a vast difference between convenience and conviction, between discount and premium. Between excuse for inaction and bearing costly action. And those empty verbal “should’s, requests, pleas, and demands”, are a deceit by which to obscure taking an unearned discount, by justifying inaction, and by inaction, creating a theft from one’s ancestors, ones peers and all generations that might follow. And so there is plenty rope, pole, lumber, and pyre for such lairs, cheaters, and thieves as well as those they pretend to defend, but merely seek to escape the costs of defending against. And we shall hang, impale, crucify and burn those that fail to act, as well as those who commit violence, lie, cheat and steal in the name of their invasion.—
Violence is a virtue when put to virtuous ends.
—I am not concerned with should, I am concerned with shall. Not in persuasion but compliance. Not in tolerance but in expurgation. Not in compromise but in defeat. Not in accommodation but deportation. And should deportation fail, not conciliation, but in hanging, impaling, crucifixion and pyres. There is a vast difference between convenience and conviction, between discount and premium. Between excuse for inaction and bearing costly action. And those empty verbal “should’s, requests, pleas, and demands”, are a deceit by which to obscure taking an unearned discount, by justifying inaction, and by inaction, creating a theft from one’s ancestors, ones peers and all generations that might follow. And so there is plenty rope, pole, lumber, and pyre for such lairs, cheaters, and thieves as well as those they pretend to defend, but merely seek to escape the costs of defending against. And we shall hang, impale, crucify and burn those that fail to act, as well as those who commit violence, lie, cheat and steal in the name of their invasion.—
Violence is a virtue when put to virtuous ends.
[I]n propertarianism I refer to three coercive technologies, and three classes that master them.
I am perfectly happy mastering my class’s technology (violence: law and war, and to a lesser degree remuneration: production distribution and trade, and to a lesser degree gossip/morality.). But if I had my ‘druthers’ I would master only law and war, and let better men master remuneration and gossip.
We ask too much of men under equality. It is hard enough to specialize in one thing. Why must we master three? If we cooperate we need not. And that would make most of us much happier. Men love to be in their role and respected for it. The common man care less about our position than success in that position.
[I]n propertarianism I refer to three coercive technologies, and three classes that master them.
I am perfectly happy mastering my class’s technology (violence: law and war, and to a lesser degree remuneration: production distribution and trade, and to a lesser degree gossip/morality.). But if I had my ‘druthers’ I would master only law and war, and let better men master remuneration and gossip.
We ask too much of men under equality. It is hard enough to specialize in one thing. Why must we master three? If we cooperate we need not. And that would make most of us much happier. Men love to be in their role and respected for it. The common man care less about our position than success in that position.
(very important piece) (this will ruffle some feathers)
[T]he three means of coercion can be used for good or ill.
1) Violence can be used to create property rights and prosperity or it can be used to conduct parasitism predation and destruction.
2) Gossip can be used to reward contributors to the commons with opportunity for cooperation and mates, or it can be used to lie, cheat, deceive, rally, shame, and justify parasitism, or instill violence.
3) Trade can be used to increase prosperity for all by accumulating genetic, knowledge, physical and institutional capital, or to destroy the either the producer’s or the consumer’s economy by causing the depreciation of genetic, knowledge, physical, and institutional capital.
Trade is no more an INTRINSIC good, than is violence or gossip.
That is the end of it. Trade is nor more a good than violence or gossip. The only determinant of the morality or immorality of trade is whether capital is accumulated or destroyed in the process of production, distribution, trade and consumption, and whether the transfers were voluntary.
***This is what I call the requirement for “full accounting” in any truthful (moral) argument. Without full accounting someone is undoubtably lying. General rules expressed without limits are used as means of suggestion by which to deceive the altruistic mind. Free Trade is as much a folly as Autarky. Free Trade is yet another cosmopolitanism by which to rely on suggestion in order to conduct parasitism.***
This argument is finished. Cosmopolitan Libertarian absolutism is finished. Libertine libertarianism is finished. It is a dead ideology. I have killed it – forever. And I have demonstrated as thoroughly as any man can, that the only possible liberty from which we obtain our prosperity is TRUTHFUL COOPERATION: The productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary exchange of property-en-toto, free of imposition of costs by externality, wherein our statements survive tests of identity (non conflation), internal, consistency, external correspondence, existential possibility, parsimony, limits, full accounting, and voluntary exchange.
Children require virtue ethics, because they can but imitate. The young require rule ethics because they lack experience. The adult requires outcome ethics because otherwise he can use rules to obscure his frauds. Any ethical claim must hold to all THREE forms of ethic:
a) virtue: should every man do this, the outcome would be moral
b) rule: should every man obey this rule, the outcome would be moral.
c) outcome: should every man do this, the outcome would be moral.
It is not that one ethical method supersedes any other. It is that we can only expect the child to imitate, the young to obey rules, and the old to obey experience. As such we tolerate greater error from the child, than the young, and least from the experienced. It is not that any ethical method produces greater results. It is that each method requires making full use of the knowledge that each actor possesses, and that as long as he acts according to those principles, that we forgive him for his failures.
Curt Doolittle
The Philosophy of Aristocracy
The Propertarian Institute
Kyiv, Ukraine
(very important piece) (this will ruffle some feathers)
[T]he three means of coercion can be used for good or ill.
1) Violence can be used to create property rights and prosperity or it can be used to conduct parasitism predation and destruction.
2) Gossip can be used to reward contributors to the commons with opportunity for cooperation and mates, or it can be used to lie, cheat, deceive, rally, shame, and justify parasitism, or instill violence.
3) Trade can be used to increase prosperity for all by accumulating genetic, knowledge, physical and institutional capital, or to destroy the either the producer’s or the consumer’s economy by causing the depreciation of genetic, knowledge, physical, and institutional capital.
Trade is no more an INTRINSIC good, than is violence or gossip.
That is the end of it. Trade is nor more a good than violence or gossip. The only determinant of the morality or immorality of trade is whether capital is accumulated or destroyed in the process of production, distribution, trade and consumption, and whether the transfers were voluntary.
***This is what I call the requirement for “full accounting” in any truthful (moral) argument. Without full accounting someone is undoubtably lying. General rules expressed without limits are used as means of suggestion by which to deceive the altruistic mind. Free Trade is as much a folly as Autarky. Free Trade is yet another cosmopolitanism by which to rely on suggestion in order to conduct parasitism.***
This argument is finished. Cosmopolitan Libertarian absolutism is finished. Libertine libertarianism is finished. It is a dead ideology. I have killed it – forever. And I have demonstrated as thoroughly as any man can, that the only possible liberty from which we obtain our prosperity is TRUTHFUL COOPERATION: The productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary exchange of property-en-toto, free of imposition of costs by externality, wherein our statements survive tests of identity (non conflation), internal, consistency, external correspondence, existential possibility, parsimony, limits, full accounting, and voluntary exchange.
Children require virtue ethics, because they can but imitate. The young require rule ethics because they lack experience. The adult requires outcome ethics because otherwise he can use rules to obscure his frauds. Any ethical claim must hold to all THREE forms of ethic:
a) virtue: should every man do this, the outcome would be moral
b) rule: should every man obey this rule, the outcome would be moral.
c) outcome: should every man do this, the outcome would be moral.
It is not that one ethical method supersedes any other. It is that we can only expect the child to imitate, the young to obey rules, and the old to obey experience. As such we tolerate greater error from the child, than the young, and least from the experienced. It is not that any ethical method produces greater results. It is that each method requires making full use of the knowledge that each actor possesses, and that as long as he acts according to those principles, that we forgive him for his failures.
Curt Doolittle
The Philosophy of Aristocracy
The Propertarian Institute
Kyiv, Ukraine
[C]apitalism exists for the bourgeoise class only because liberty was constructed by the martial class. Period. Violence creates property. Property creates prosperity. Prosperity makes charity possible.
WE ARE THE FOUNDATION. ALL OF CONSEQUENCE FOLLOWS
We either form a wall and do not break, or there is not capitalism, prosperity and charity.
ORDER: VIOLENCE IS THE FIRST WEALTH WE INVEST.
PRODUCTION: CAPITALISM IS ONE OF THE INVESTMENTS WE CAN MAKE.
CHARITY: REDISTRIBUTION IS A LUXURY WE CAN CHOOSE TO AFFORD.
It’s time to water the tree of liberty with a little blood.
[C]apitalism exists for the bourgeoise class only because liberty was constructed by the martial class. Period. Violence creates property. Property creates prosperity. Prosperity makes charity possible.
WE ARE THE FOUNDATION. ALL OF CONSEQUENCE FOLLOWS
We either form a wall and do not break, or there is not capitalism, prosperity and charity.
ORDER: VIOLENCE IS THE FIRST WEALTH WE INVEST.
PRODUCTION: CAPITALISM IS ONE OF THE INVESTMENTS WE CAN MAKE.
CHARITY: REDISTRIBUTION IS A LUXURY WE CAN CHOOSE TO AFFORD.
It’s time to water the tree of liberty with a little blood.
