Theme: Civilization

  • DIFFERENCES BETWEEN EUROPEANS AND AMERICANS Ok. Do I have this right, that ameri

    DIFFERENCES BETWEEN EUROPEANS AND AMERICANS

    Ok. Do I have this right, that americans practice the cults of protestantism and constitution, and so our ‘religiosity’ is overstated, while europeans, who practice the cults of secular democratic secular humanism, marxism and christianity are in fact more *superstitious* or *mystical* than americans? Because that is what I think divides the old world and the new world?


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-07 12:47:00 UTC

  • Presumes all societies are not accumulative, whereas all societies demonstrate b

    Presumes all societies are not accumulative, whereas all societies demonstrate biases to accumulate. All that differs is what’s accumulated.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-07 05:17:50 UTC

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  • “Pythagoras was a mystic who took his cues from Egypt and Heraclitus was a dissa

    —“Pythagoras was a mystic who took his cues from Egypt and Heraclitus was a dissatisfied Aristocrat who worshiped fire, just like Zoroastrian priesthood. I guess we can consider them odd ducks in this development.”—Domagoj Vaci

    (worth repeating)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-06 14:11:00 UTC

  • by Domagoj Vaci I suspect the evil behind Jehova (back then, the insignificant l

    by Domagoj Vaci

    I suspect the evil behind Jehova (back then, the insignificant local deity of insignificant Hebrews) is in fact the Persian devil Ahura Mazda.

    The entire naturalist pre-socratic philosophy came to be as an expression of a Ionian Greek resistance to this dualistic religionism of Persian imperial project.

    Alexander was a simple hick who was only good at breaking the military power of East while polluting the culture of Greek city-states under his yoke with eastern piety, petrifying Greek reason.

    Although, the “pre-Socratic” is a bit too wide definition. I should say Ionians, precisely Milesian school (Thales, Anaximander, Anaximenes) who invented philosophy to begin with and subjected their reasoning to crude empiricism.

    This development culminates with the Atomists Leucippus and Democritus who were also Ionian Greeks. Pythagoras was a mystic who took his cues from Egypt and Heraclitus was a dissatisfied Aristocrat who worshiped fire, just like Zoroastrian priesthood. I guess we can consider them odd ducks in this development.



    (Curt: I would say that alexander was not a simple hick, especially from his letters to Aristotle. But that yes, in search of ending the persian menace, he sought power not just rule, and yes he infected the west with the persian disease.)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-06 11:02:00 UTC

  • TO END ISLAM AND JUDAISM WE MUST END CHRISTIANITY Everything good in Christianit

    TO END ISLAM AND JUDAISM WE MUST END CHRISTIANITY

    Everything good in Christianity was there before Jesus was.

    The argument that the christians adopted the cult of the emperor and applied it to jesus is just as true as they adopted the cult of mithras and sol invictus.

    There is a big difference between the imperial cult, the cult of mithras, and the cult of sol invictus, and the cult of jesus. The others were martial and good, and the jesus cult was destructive as hell. Not as destructive as islam but nearly.

    There is no superior social technology than cult of the monarchy as embodiment of the people, cult of ancestors and heroes(masculine) and saints(feminine), cult of the militia, cult of the law as justice, cult of stoicism, cult of truth.

    Lies are not necessary. They are cheap. And they are effective. But their consequences are worse than their benefits.

    The old world lies of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, as well as the new world lies of Islamism, Postmodernism, and Marxism, must be extinguished. They are semitic, babylonian inventions. They are the evolution of the Persian heresy of Zoroastrianism, turned against the circumpolar peoples in order to undermine our ancient military, technical, and civic social orders by the seduction of our women, our weak, and our ignorant.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-06 10:57:00 UTC

  • ON RUSSIAN CURSES The word “Dolboeb” Russian(“долбаеб”) is a (very) rude curse w

    ON RUSSIAN CURSES

    The word “Dolboeb” Russian(“долбаеб”) is a (very) rude curse word for reckless “idiot” or “crazy idiot”. Russian curses are hard to translate because they are more poetic. But the closest is possibly ‘f-ckhead’ and ‘f-ckwit’.

    But, just as English curses include the intimation of irony, stupidity, incompetence, foolishness, and folly-pride, to understand the Russian versions, you have to add the sense of ‘drunkenness’ to the anglo conception of any insult: a sort of overconfidence, or certainty in your stupidity – plus something else… it’s … that Russians are strong people and curses very often imply someone is strong but stupid – so they don’t have the connotation many of our english words do of feebleness of one kind or another. They don’t think farce or folly, or childishness is funny – just stupid. Humor has to include this overconfidence and pride attribution in order for something to be funny.

    I mean, I remember an early morning, watching a drunk moron try to steal a piece of fruit from the back of a delivery truck, while they men working in the market and the various trucks just laughed and teased him, let him get away with it, then take it from him, and repeat this process for a good half an hour. I mean, there must have been thirty people watching this comedy and everyone was rolling with it. And all with an undercurrent of sympathy. We don’t do that kind of thing in protestant christianity. Which is unfortunate. It’s more civil.

    Russian culture isn’t so much legal as *reasonable*. There is more of the latin ‘reasonableness’, than the absolutism of protestant law. And I prefer our government but their civility.

    It’s why I love them so much.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-06 10:42:00 UTC

  • Urbanization has led to decivilization. A market is different from a plantation.

    Urbanization has led to decivilization.

    A market is different from a plantation.

    The cities were markets.

    Now they are plantations.

    They’re dysgenic ovary sinks.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-05 16:26:00 UTC

  • Daniel Gurpide Could you help me with the dates in the Rise/Collapse section bel

    Daniel Gurpide Could you help me with the dates in the Rise/Collapse section below? -thanks

    THE RULERS SPEAK IN LAW (limitations) – those who do.

    THE MERCHANTS SPEAK IN IDEALS (ambitions) – those who wish.

    THE SLAVES SPEAK IN RELIGION (resistance) – those who resist.

    LAW(MARKETS) : Rome: Real-Deflation (Everyone) SCIENCE / TRUTH

    WISDOM (FAMILIES): China: Real (Confucius) WISDOM LIT. / REASONABLE

    PHILOSOPHY: Athens: Ideal (Plato) PHILOSOPHY / REASON (RATIONALISM)

    THEOSOPHY: Phoenicia: Literary (Augustine) MYTH / ANALOGY (STORY)

    THEOLOGY: Babylon: Theology (Zoroaster) MYSTICISM / SUGGESTION

    MONOPOLY: Arabia: Unreal-Conflation (Abraham ) LIES / DECEPTION

    FOOLS talk about CONSPIRACIES

    SIMPLE people talk about PEOPLE, (No Collars – Tunics )

    COMMON people talk about EVENTS, (Blue Collars – Pants )

    EDUCATED people talk about IDEAS. (White Collars – Suits )

    WISE people talk about LAWS. (Black collars – Robes)

    THE RISE OF EUROPEAN ROME & COLLAPSE UNDER PERSIAN BYZANTIUM

    Roman Monarchy … 753 -> 510bc (243 yrs)

    Roman Republic ….. 510 -> 134 bc (376 yrs)

    Roman Empire……… 134bc -> 69 ad (

    Roman Federation .. 285 -> (East and west split)

    Roman Church Forms. 306 ->

    Roman Tolerance …. 313 (Edict of Milan)

    Forcible Conversion..380 (Edict of Thessalonica)

    Roman Fall …………… 476ad

    EVAN ANDREWS ON THE FALL OF ROMAN CIVILIZATION

    1) Invasions by Barbarian tribes

    The most straightforward theory for Western Rome’s collapse pins the fall on a string of military losses sustained against outside forces. Rome had tangled with Germanic tribes for centuries, but by the 300s “barbarian” groups like the Goths had encroached beyond the Empire’s borders. The Romans weathered a Germanic uprising in the late fourth century, but in 410 the Visigoth King Alaric successfully sacked the city of Rome. The Empire spent the next several decades under constant threat before “the Eternal City” was raided again in 455, this time by the Vandals. Finally, in 476, the Germanic leader Odoacer staged a revolt and deposed the Emperor Romulus Augustulus. From then on, no Roman emperor would ever again rule from a post in Italy, leading many to cite 476 as the year the Western Empire suffered its deathblow.

    2) Economic troubles and overreliance on slave labor

    Even as Rome was under attack from outside forces, it was also crumbling from within thanks to a severe financial crisis. Constant wars and overspending had significantly lightened imperial coffers, and oppressive taxation and inflation had widened the gap between rich and poor. In the hope of avoiding the taxman, many members of the wealthy classes had even fled to the countryside and set up independent fiefdoms. At the same time, the empire was rocked by a labor deficit. Rome’s economy depended on slaves to till its fields and work as craftsmen, and its military might had traditionally provided a fresh influx of conquered peoples to put to work. But when expansion ground to a halt in the second century, Rome’s supply of slaves and other war treasures began to dry up. A further blow came in the fifth century, when the Vandals claimed North Africa and began disrupting the empire’s trade by prowling the Mediterranean as pirates. With its economy faltering and its commercial and agricultural production in decline, the Empire began to lose its grip on Europe.

    3) The rise of the Eastern Empire

    The fate of Western Rome was partially sealed in the late third century, when the Emperor Diocletian divided the Empire into two halves—the Western Empire seated in the city of Milan, and the Eastern Empire in Byzantium, later known as Constantinople. The division made the empire more easily governable in the short term, but over time the two halves drifted apart. East and West failed to adequately work together to combat outside threats, and the two often squabbled over resources and military aid. As the gulf widened, the largely Greek-speaking Eastern Empire grew in wealth while the Latin-speaking West descended into economic crisis. Most importantly, the strength of the Eastern Empire served to divert Barbarian invasions to the West. Emperors like Constantine ensured that the city of Constantinople was fortified and well guarded, but Italy and the city of Rome—which only had symbolic value for many in the East—were left vulnerable. The Western political structure would finally disintegrate in the fifth century, but the Eastern Empire endured in some form for another thousand years before being overwhelmed by the Ottoman Empire in the 1400s.

    4) Overexpansion and military overspending

    At its height, the Roman Empire stretched from the Atlantic Ocean all the way to the Euphrates River in the Middle East, but its grandeur may have also been its downfall. With such a vast territory to govern, the empire faced an administrative and logistical nightmare. Even with their excellent road systems, the Romans were unable to communicate quickly or effectively enough to manage their holdings. Rome struggled to marshal enough troops and resources to defend its frontiers from local rebellions and outside attacks, and by the second century the Emperor Hadrian was forced to build his famous wall in Britain just to keep the enemy at bay. As more and more funds were funneled into the military upkeep of the empire, technological advancement slowed and Rome’s civil infrastructure fell into disrepair.

    5) Government corruption and political instability

    If Rome’s sheer size made it difficult to govern, ineffective and inconsistent leadership only served to magnify the problem. Being the Roman emperor had always been a particularly dangerous job, but during the tumultuous second and third centuries it nearly became a death sentence. Civil war thrust the empire into chaos, and more than 20 men took the throne in the span of only 75 years, usually after the murder of their predecessor. The Praetorian Guard—the emperor’s personal bodyguards—assassinated and installed new sovereigns at will, and once even auctioned the spot off to the highest bidder. The political rot also extended to the Roman Senate, which failed to temper the excesses of the emperors due to its own widespread corruption and incompetence. As the situation worsened, civic pride waned and many Roman citizens lost trust in their leadership.

    6) The arrival of the Huns and the migration of the Barbarian tribes

    The Barbarian attacks on Rome partially stemmed from a mass migration caused by the Huns’ invasion of Europe in the late fourth century. When these Eurasian warriors rampaged through northern Europe, they drove many Germanic tribes to the borders of the Roman Empire. The Romans grudgingly allowed members of the Visigoth tribe to cross south of the Danube and into the safety of Roman territory, but they treated them with extreme cruelty. According to the historian Ammianus Marcellinus, Roman officials even forced the starving Goths to trade their children into slavery in exchange for dog meat. In brutalizing the Goths, the Romans created a dangerous enemy within their own borders. When the oppression became too much to bear, the Goths rose up in revolt and eventually routed a Roman army and killed the Eastern Emperor Valens during the Battle of Adrianople in A.D. 378. The shocked Romans negotiated a flimsy peace with the barbarians, but the truce unraveled in 410, when the Goth King Alaric moved west and sacked Rome. With the Western Empire weakened, Germanic tribes like the Vandals and the Saxons were able to surge across its borders and occupy Britain, Spain and North Africa.

    7) Christianity and the loss of traditional values

    The decline of Rome dovetailed with the spread of Christianity, and some have argued that the rise of a new faith helped contribute to the empire’s fall. The Edict of Milan legalized Christianity in 313, and it later became the state religion in 380. These decrees ended centuries of persecution, but they may have also eroded the traditional Roman values system. Christianity displaced the polytheistic Roman religion, which viewed the emperor as having a divine status, and also shifted focus away from the glory of the state and onto a sole deity. Meanwhile, popes and other church leaders took an increased role in political affairs, further complicating governance. The 18th-century historian Edward Gibbon was the most famous proponent of this theory, but his take has since been widely criticized. While the spread of Christianity may have played a small role in curbing Roman civic virtue, most scholars now argue that its influence paled in comparison to military, economic and administrative factors.

    8) Weakening of the Roman legions

    For most of its history, Rome’s military was the envy of the ancient world. But during the decline, the makeup of the once mighty legions began to change. Unable to recruit enough soldiers from the Roman citizenry, emperors like Diocletian and Constantine began hiring foreign mercenaries to prop up their armies. The ranks of the legions eventually swelled with Germanic Goths and other barbarians, so much so that Romans began using the Latin word “barbarus” in place of “soldier.” While these Germanic soldiers of fortune proved to be fierce warriors, they also had little or no loyalty to the empire, and their power-hungry officers often turned against their Roman employers. In fact, many of the barbarians who sacked the city of Rome and brought down the Western Empire had earned their military stripes while serving in the Roman legions.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-04 15:29:00 UTC

  • SUNIC, JORJANI, DOOLITTLE ROUNDTABLE “Western Civilization: Circumventing the Fr

    https://www.eventbrite.com/e/western-civilization-circumventing-the-frankfurt-and-postmodern-schools-tickets-36272906239DUCHESNE, SUNIC, JORJANI, DOOLITTLE ROUNDTABLE

    “Western Civilization: Circumventing the Frankfurt and Postmodern Schools”

    September 26th, NY, NY.

    Our intent: to hold a rational and scientific discourse on the circumvention and defeat of the pseudoscientific and pseudo historic (marxist and feminist ), and pseudo-rational (postmodern and globalist) schools of deception.

    Our goal is to produce a video with a non trivial half-life that will give authors a venue for expressing how their work can assist in the falsification of pseudoscience, pseudo-historicism, and pseudo-rationalism, and what areas of society can be effected by our efforts, and what other efforts might be necessary to do so.

    Because of this goal, we are able to provide a small audience direct access to presenters and produce all of the beneficial consequences of a bit of personal interaction.

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    A personal gathering, with dinner afterward.

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    Early bird tickets start at $50 (12 only), and the rest at $65. Dinner is separate at $50.

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    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-04 11:29:00 UTC

  • “How can we most effectively and probabilistically get as much of our civilizati

    —“How can we most effectively and probabilistically get as much of our civilization to actually conform to Natural Law as much as is necessary to prevent the collapse inevitable on its current trajectory as quickly as possible?I think answering this question in practice rather than theory will very likely to require us to be pragmatic, not idealistic. Having said all of that, what do you offer the average man to motivate him to discipline himself sufficiently to take the responsibility required to fight the war you propose and win? Intellectuals alone does not a revolution make.”—Joel

    (CD: Actually, as far as I know, intellectuals providing solutions for a small number of angry and frustrated young men, always a revolution makes.)

    Curt Doolittle An interestingly phrased question.

    1) i think you are applying the following biases:

    – false consensus bias

    – group attribution error

    – illusion of transparency

    2) There already are more than sufficient numbers to revolt. they only need a plan they think can succeed and leadership.

    3) The question isn’t how many can we get to revolt, but how many can we encourage not resist the revolt.

    4) I don’t put forth belief systems, but institutional recipes that are *easily* operationalized. I put forth criticisms of anything that does not survive deflation into the grammar of incentives which all cognition, emotion, and langauge exists to justify. In other words, I have the direction of causality correct.

    5) What I am offering to the people who might resist revolt is de-financialization, and de-deception, and a rough redistribution of the 20th century’s malappropriation by the upper 1% to the middle and working classes. The full consequences of this redistribution will make it almost impossible for them middle and working classes to dismiss it.

    6) The cost of this is the loss of ability for the media, the public intellectuals, the activists and the politicians both right and left to engage in lying; and the ‘cost’ is that they must take action to prosecute ‘liars’ (for compensation); and then, the other ‘cost’ is the market demand that they gradually learn how to express their middle and working class ethics in rational and reciprocal terms. (which will evolve normally as did rational, statistical, and scientific speech).

    7) Voluntary disassociation as well as association, which will allow people with lower incomes to live near their kin instead of pushing our kin down into mixed neighborhoods where they obtain bad behavior and create class conflict. Right now people associate by tribe (neighborhood) by the cost of homes and the cost of local education. This creates a caste system and low trust rather than a kinship system and high trust.

    The optional costs with extraordinary benefits are:

    1) withdraw copyright protection and replace it with creative commons protection alone (profiting from use). This will destroy the hollywood sector’s ability to produce propaganda.

    2) replace the patent process with whether the produce required extra-market R&D subsidy or whether the patent is purely defensive at the expense of consumers.

    3) vast restructuring of the academy but most importantly, that the academy must carry the student loan debt (direct from the treasury), and can only be paid out of future earnings over ten years.

    (This set of optional changes is quite long. I wont’ go into them.)

    The radical changes are more important:

    10) the devolution of federal (central) powers to the resolution of conflict over property between the states, and repeal of the civil war amendments.

    The preservation of the military, treasury, and insurer of last resort functions. In other words, reducing the federal system to a utility shared by the states or regions.

    11) voluntary secession of any region at the neighborhood level in exchange for assuming their portion of debt in the original currency, including any territorial assets.

    Etc.

    CLOSING

    This is a pretty libertarian solution to the problem. It says ‘you may go your way as long as I may go mine’, while preserving the ONLY value of scale: insurance via military, treasury, ‘insurance’, and judiciary.

    What it does not do is recommend anarchism, but micro-nationalism.

    AFTERWARD

    Markets are the only way to defeat all other method of order – because the higher the velocity of trial and error the greater the retained advantage.

    You can catch up to markets by authoritarianism – that’s evidence.

    Because you can use existing information discovered by trial and error.

    You can spend down accumulated advantage with social democracy – until no more advantage remains to be spent.

    But you cannot defeat markets. Particularly INSURED markets.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-03 10:46:00 UTC