(from elsewhere)(archive) (or “wealth is a middle class occupation”)
I think Molyneux did a pretty good job.
Here is what I said in response to Taleb:
—(a) g measures what we attempt to measure (b) chance of success corresponds to a distribution of traits, (c) plus the utility of those traits, in service of the population under the bell curve within 1 SD.—
Which is the only answer that matters, and is something we have known for decades – it’s covered in the Millionaire Mind books and related research.
But to an economists it’s fairly obvious. Smart folk don’t amass money that often because we already HAVE an asset. Smart people don’t need anything else to compete. They don’t need anything else to signal with. (I mean, ask andy how easy it is to intimidate, humiliate, or shut down the average person (idiot)) In fact, if you are very intelligent the skill we must learn is now NOT to make people feel stupid, humiliated, or shut down.
So a little more color on the subject:
People most likely to gain wealth are in the middle and upper middle classes. People least likely to gain wealth are in the lower classes. Our ‘aristocracy’ today tends to consist of relatively invisible academic financial and political families, rather than wealth for this reason. We live in a middle class VISIBLE world but with an INVISIBLE aristocracy.
Why? Because you need to (a) be interested in (and not bored by) something (b) there are some number of people interested in, and (c) most people that you can serve are in the middle 2/3 of the curve. So knowing those OPERATIONAL RULES we would expect shortage at the bottom, a steep climb to 2/3, and shortage at the top. Which is what Taleb’s chart shows us. I mean, smart people have MANY, MANY Possible ways of being ‘successful’ (subjectively).
For example: I can tell fairly easily that Andy Curzon and Noam Chomsky, or that category of people who can read anything and speak nine or ten languages – all have higher IQ’s than I do. And I can enumerate what each can do that is superior.
My particular thing is that I don’t make mistakes, at the cost of limited lateral associations. I remember pretty much everything at the cost of short term memory. And I have trouble with more than one project at a time. But I will absolutely figure out any problem period, … given time to figure it out on my terms. These are not positive academic traits (rate of learning unrelated things, making one an exceptional manager, executive in every field), they are very positive lifetime traits (getting comparative advantage ‘right’ in high risk propositions.)
So, for example, as Higgs (Higgs boson) said “I would never get hired by a university today because I work slowly”. And we are creating a large number of ‘sufficiently successful’ college graduates that find safety in jobs that are extra market (which is why you used to go to college – to find income outside of market forces – particularly government, law, medicine, and teaching).
***So Taleb’s observation is statistically truth and operationally false.***
Which is pretty much what I try to teach people: any claim that cannot be stated in operational language, is an act of fraud.
So for example, no matter what I did,assuming we both invested in it, Andy would defeat me at chess (permutations of states), and Chomsky can give a long running detailed explanation of phenomenon without hesitation in search of words or phrasing (depth (or durability of short term memory) of ‘narrator, observer, searcher’ abilities – which is something that fascinates me).
Because while I can undrestand it and imagine doing it I can’t do it – at least for any length of time – long enough time to complete with people like Andy, Chomsky, and say Stephen Fry is someone who comes to mind because of his lateral thinking ability.
But here is the thing. Smart people (and I know very many of them) EXIT THE MARKET and live ‘normie lives’ because everything they can possibly want is obtainable under ‘normie’ conditions, an they can devote their spare time to their interests.
The only thing I’d clarify about this is that there are a couple areas where the Left has been operating in reality better than the Right. So:
1. Copy the Left’s tactic of gossip rally ridicule shame? No. Maybe to help win an election as a short-term play to buy us time, but not as a long-term solution. (The solution is outlaw pollution of the informational commons with lies.)
2. Copy the Left’s understanding that identity politics wins, and that racial identity is a more powerful petsuasive force for most people (especially nonwhites) than any political ideology or set of ideas? Yes. The Right has tried to be race-blind with disastrous consequences. The Left’s reality-based success with this (colonize us with nonwhites & play identity politics with them) fools many right-wingers, because the Left lies about race, but their *actions* & strategy are more in line with reality in this area than the Right’s have been. We must learn from them in this area. (Race matters in political persuasion for nonwhites, more than anything else. We must deal with this reality.)
3. The Left understands that it is all about holding the reins of power, not about “principle” or teaching people. Whoever makes the rules, rules. Whoever makes the rules, gets what they want. They go straight for the jugular: power. Without regard for anything else. Meanwhile, the Right has been trying to “be principled” and teach people (to explain/educate our way to victory). This is a mistake – truth matters not unless truth-enforcers have power and make the rules. Principles mean nothing without the power to enforce them. The Right must learn from the Left in this area.
4. The Left knows how to be intolerant, to punish its enemies swiftly and harshly. Certain parts of the Right have tried to embrace tolerance (libertarians, classical liberals), with the predictable result that classical liberals and libertarians have zero power. The Right must learn from the Left in this area.
What confuses the Right is that everything that comes out of the Left’s mouth is a lie. Their communication is all gossip rally ridicule shame (feminine). And we rightly say, “That is not us.” But then we look around and say, “Why do they have all the institutional power?” Well, because their *actions* (strategy/tactics) have been more in line with reality than the Right’s.
So yes, the alt-right’s “let’s do ridicule better than the Left” is not our long-term answer. But we must recognize the areas where the Left has operated in reality better than we have, and course correct. Without losing our essence (truth).
—“Searching for a fancier refutation, but I’ll just cop out and say you’re just too Anglo in your thinking.”—
Thank you for the compliment. Not that it affects the argument. 😉
Evidence of all language is that it competes in markets and as such was only slightly weakened by (a)the standardization of spelling during printing, and (b)the development of science as universal language of truth.
It is true that we are often limited in ‘meaning’ to methods of reasoning, calculation, and computation by the grammar and vocabulary available to use, but that free association prevails regardless. Language markets continue unabated.
Remove power and data reduces a polity to cash economy, and a cash economy drains the cash reserves, causes bank runs and in the end reduction to a barter economy. This time of year, ninety days without continuous data, power, cash is unsurvivable for many tens of millions. The fourth meal is all it takes. Bring about demand for the fourth meal.
—“Once we remove the involuntary/parasitic subsidy of r from the environment (something “No more lies” accomplishes), K will out-compete and out-reproduce r. The only subsidy then available to r will be charity or trade (for example – in return for not reproducing)”—Luke Weinhagen
—“The argument that the right hasnt been doing it right and needs to learn from the Enemy because they evolve rapidly is outright wrong. The right has known for hundreds of years how to remove enemies. The issue isnt the application of force or the tactics involved. Its the balls to act [in concert at scale]. We suffer from either inaction or over action. People who want to sit around all day and hash and rehash and do nothing, or people who lash out in all directions and only accomplish getting their name on a federal watchlist and local police radars. Utilizing left wing tactics doesn’t give us any ground, it only dilutes any attempts at meaningful change.”—Dylan Knowles
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/historic-shift-more-hispanic-than-black-voters-in-2020-whites-decline-to-66Jayant Bhandari”Now” to end democracy? Unfortunately, non-White millennial are 45% of the US population already. This will indeed become 51% within 10 years. In my view the only solution is for Trump to remove democracy, or disenfranchise 94% of the population from voting, reverting back to the post-independence days’ situation.Jan 30, 2019, 6:41 PMBryan Nova BreyRace Realism.Jan 30, 2019, 6:43 PMVik LiCanada was 73% white in 2016…Jan 30, 2019, 6:43 PMEdmund BlackadderI’m surprised it’s over 60% tbhJan 30, 2019, 6:53 PMNick DahlheimTrump will never be able to do thatJan 30, 2019, 6:59 PMBrandon Cheshire64% nowJan 30, 2019, 7:07 PMEthan Tricethere’s no way to disenfranchise a share of the population. you either go full Empire or you stay Republic. middle roads just would lead to impeachment and the policy being overturnedJan 30, 2019, 7:09 PMCurt DoolittleACT NOWJan 30, 2019, 7:11 PMDominic Leyva2 years wtf?Jan 30, 2019, 7:12 PMBrandon Cheshireit wasnt 73% in 2016, maybe 70% in 2011Jan 30, 2019, 7:14 PMJon JonathanThere is always ethnic cleansingJan 30, 2019, 7:16 PMEthan TriceJon Jonathan whether Spencer’s “peaceful ethnic cleansing” or a more violent one, neither one could be done while America is a republic, unless of course, it were done against the once majority population.Jan 30, 2019, 7:22 PMJon JonathanNot with that attitudeJan 30, 2019, 7:24 PMEthan Triceaccording to wiki, it’s pretty lowJan 30, 2019, 7:33 PMVik Lihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#Visible_minority_populationJan 30, 2019, 7:51 PMWilliam BlackHow you gonna vote from Ukraine, Curt?Jan 30, 2019, 7:51 PMZach MattoEthan Trice “Once majority” is the scenario to prepare for. Hoping it won’t happen won’t cut it. Be ready for the crucial opening moves. 1000 rounds, 3 months of MRE, water purification (Lifestraw is a good start) and some shelter building knowledge.
Long term, we all need to seek proximity to each other. Community is survival, we will all need each other.Jan 30, 2019, 8:00 PMCurt DoolittleWho says i’ll be in Ukraine? I’m in the states NOW. That said, it’s quite easy to vote from abroad. And failing that, we have these modern inventions called airplanes.
(f-k head.)Jan 30, 2019, 8:10 PMWilliam BlackIf you’re in the US then why wont you debate Aldi? There’s no excusesJan 30, 2019, 8:12 PMColin HigginsWilliam Black who is Aldi?Jan 30, 2019, 8:32 PMWilliam BlackDavid Aldi is a renowned philosopher. He is philosophically egoist, sociopolitically/economically mutualist, geopolitically Eurasianist.Jan 30, 2019, 8:35 PMEric GroseRuth Bader’s death might trigger the left, but the election certainly will. They hate us. And we are looking at tremendous violence no matter what.Jan 30, 2019, 8:36 PMNick DahlheimWe need and probably will get more Covington type incidents, hopefully that will wake up the normiesJan 30, 2019, 8:38 PMZachary BertCurt Doolittle I wanna visit Eastern Europe hella bad. You down for being an air bnb?Jan 30, 2019, 8:55 PMDoug Hollandthose numbers do not include illegals .. we are 55% tops right now.Jan 30, 2019, 9:06 PMDoug HollandAmerica was always destined to be ruled by mud people .. I just never predicted we would not have Europe to fall back to..
not the millennium to be white .. you can count on thatJan 30, 2019, 9:12 PMAlex MacleodWiki’s data on such things changes suspiciously.Jan 30, 2019, 9:17 PMEric GroseFuck that. This will be the meaningful struggle we’ve always craved in our hearts. Time for greatness!Jan 30, 2019, 9:25 PMCurt Doolittlewhen i get back there…. lolJan 30, 2019, 9:35 PMSteven GantCount me in for Trump this time around. So that 12.5 is slightly lower.Jan 30, 2019, 11:16 PMSteven GantDemographics affect all other issues. I’m with you white man.Jan 30, 2019, 11:17 PMNick DahlheimWow. I’m probably significantly more sympathetic to black Americans than maybe many on the more Hard Right are….but, I do like it when I meet blacks who aren’t anti-white (indeed the entire media and educational establishment is anti-white, so some hostility is just part of the propaganda).Jan 30, 2019, 11:19 PMSteven GantNick Dahlheim I’m not stupid enough to ignore the fact that white men keep the lights on. Call it parasitism if you want but white men and prosperity are related for a reason.Jan 30, 2019, 11:22 PMNick DahlheimSteven Gant I’m not sure it’s parasitism in your case….indeed, far too many white men have been intentionally pussified and it’s disgusting. Fewer and fewer white men do the kind of tough but skilled physical labor that keeps the lights on and sadly, even fewer blacks do that work. And that is by designJan 30, 2019, 11:24 PMNick DahlheimSteven Gant The question is: can white ppl and black ppl find any common cause? I probably (am I a cuck?) hold out small hope we can get along and get some of our disagreements tamped downJan 30, 2019, 11:31 PMSteven GantNick Dahlheim Black people are toxic. White people are better off without us. I’m an actual black person saying this. I have 200 black FB friends(that I actually know) who all have 200 black FB Friends, etc.
You’re better off with illegal Central Americans.Jan 30, 2019, 11:33 PMNick DahlheimSteven Gant What made you come to that conclusion? I mean stats do show that crime rates and welfare use among black as compared to whites are vastly disproportionate on a per capita basis…but, couldn’t that be fixed to some degree if we could be honest about that? “White privilege” simply cannot account for these disparitiesJan 30, 2019, 11:43 PMSteven GantNick Dahlheim
“What made you come to that conclusion?”
First hand experience.Jan 30, 2019, 11:44 PMEric GroseNick Dahlheim black people are toast. Most of them live in cities so those perish. They can’t outcompete other groups (Mexicans are driving them out of California). And they will be in whites’ way in the Mississippi valley.Jan 30, 2019, 11:47 PMNick DahlheimEric Grose Sadly, you may be right….Jan 30, 2019, 11:52 PMEric GroseNick Dahlheim why are you so concerned about another species of hominid?Jan 30, 2019, 11:55 PMDoug HollandSteven Gant as long as getting an education, working hard and buying in are considered acting white and selling out .. there will be problems in the black community.
people like Eric Grose aside.. most white people on the right think that black culture is a problem, not black people.Jan 31, 2019, 12:02 AMEric GroseDoug Holland sounds like you haven’t heard of race realism.Jan 31, 2019, 12:08 AMNick DahlheimEric Grose I have had and continue to have lots of good relations with black people in my life…I’m not in denial about raceJan 31, 2019, 1:22 AMOsman Kuğudağyou know there will be loads of europeans coming over to fight on the right side in the war.Jan 31, 2019, 7:00 AMRob EllermanJan 31, 2019, 2:56 PMRob EllermanJan 31, 2019, 2:58 PMRob EllermanEmpiricism – lol 😎Jan 31, 2019, 2:59 PMPaul TrippIf you’re ever in Omaha hit me and Randall up, we’d love to meet you.Jan 31, 2019, 7:54 PMNOW OR NEVER
