Things are shaping up like a perfect storm…
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-24 10:29:00 UTC
Things are shaping up like a perfect storm…
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-24 10:29:00 UTC
YOU DON”T HAVE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. π
Great questions.
—1) From where does a polity gain more rights or powers under Natural Law than the individual has in the first place?—
a) a right is a demand upon others. one does not intrinsically possess rights, one intrinsically requires them. Just as one does not intrinsically possess property he acquires it.
You can REQUIRE, and DEMAND others not impose costs upon your possessions, but you cannot possess property in fact, or property rights in fact, without a contract for those rights in some form, and a polity or institution to insure them on your behalf, and you on theirs. Else we would not have this discussion.
b) natural law provides decidability in matters of conflict regardless of the difference in opinions of the individuals in that conflict.
c) using decidability one can judicially discover and outlaw the new means of parasitism, and the new forms of property, that we consistently invent.
d) so regardless of initial presumptions the scope of our property rights can increase indefinitely under natural law regardless of the opinions of others (or ourselves). Ergo, under natural law, no matter what we expend our efforts and resources upon, we are able to convert it into property (exclusion of others from its use, taking, or consumption), as long as we do so without violating the exclusion others ask of us via reciprocity.
—“2) How is productivity quantified in your system of validation for voluntary agreements and their externalities?”—
a) preamble: i) possessions provide us with agency. ii) cooperation provides us with multipliers upon our agency. iii) it appears that we cannot compete (survive) without the agency provided by the transformation of personally insured possessions into cooperatively insured property. iv) And it is difficult to compete and survive without the agency provided by external cooperation (cooperation at scale via markets). v) ergo we must cooperate to produce property rights that provide us with agency, multipliers, and greater multipliers of the market. vi) and we must possess a means of decidability upon the scope of property to be insured (a property right), before we can cooperatively insure property.
b) conversely, i) humans retaliate against impositions of costs upon the investments they have made, in order to obtain an interest in some good, service, information, or association. ii) humans retaliate more severely than the original cost imposed upon them as a means of dissuading future such violations. iii) we evolved these behaviors precisely because of the necessity of cooperation in our survival, competition, and prospering, in relation to nature and the competition of other groups. iv) and we evolved the institutions of property, property rights, and law, to prevent cycles of retaliation (feuds) that were endemic to human groups prior to the invention of the prevention of retaliation by the institutions of property, property rights, and law. The law – our first ‘commons’ – evolved to preserve cooperation and the benefits of cooperation. v) and humans organize to embrace familial generosity, in-group reciprocity, and out group cooperation, competition, or war, by the importance of cooperation in each of those domains of action.
c) one cannot quantify changes in state only qualify changes in state – or we cannot yet do so with the instrumentation we have available to us today. And while we can qualify changes in state, we do not need to qualify, positive changes in state. We need only know if there have been negative changes in state – whether someone will retaliate. And those changes in state are limited to property in toto (demonstrated property – property in fact). That which we have obtained through homesteading, transformation of possessions, or exchange. And to prevent retaliation, we must limit ourselves to productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary exchanges limited to productive externalities.
d) because when we limit ourselves as such, no possible retaliation can be instigated. cooperation is preserved. the fruits of cooperation are preserved: possessions, property, property rights, and markets.
e) we do not choose the scope of property – others choose to invest their energies in obtaining interests by bringing changes in state of the universe into being through their actions. This interest serves to exclude you from imposition of costs upon that interest. And they choose to retaliate against impositions of costs upon them. So while we express via-positiva our necessity of a commons of property rights, the via negativa restatement of that demand, is that we seek to preserve cooperation and its fruits, by violating the terms of cooperation: the imposition of costs.
Cheers
Curt Doolittle
The Propertarian Institute
Kiev, Ukraine
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-24 10:22:00 UTC
—“If we view liberal humanism as a political religion, leftists are Anglicans and libertarians are a Quakerish sect, defending the beliefs of the majority but in a purer form, and only dangerous to the status quo in that they are not willing to actually defend it, or expand its dominion except through peaceful conversion.”—Waylon Hill
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-24 09:38:00 UTC
—“Libertarians both demand the creation of a highly virtuous population as a prelude to their preferred government and strenuously oppose any measure to actually create that virtuous population.”—Waylon Hill
that is because rothbard did not bring ethics of sovereignty to the table but license for parasitism
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-24 09:32:00 UTC
—“The only people who would be interested in living in a private law society are those people who follow the NAP, i.e., libertarians. So there won’t be any vigilantes, criminal in general, or left- or right-wingers living in a private law society, period.”–David
The opposite will occur david. Because ‘arbitrary law’ societies cannot compete against highly redistributive polities where one loses a greater percentage of his income to taxation but gains disproportionately higher income and consumption. This is why anarchism fails: commons are necessary to compete for lower opportunity and transaction costs. Libertarians (rothbard) could not figure out how to solve the problem of voluntary commons and by consequence, free riding, and the ostraciziation of free riders. But that is just an admission of failure, not a success. It is a choice of a political LUDDITE. Unable to solve the present problem attempts to destroy the source of his ability to make the choice.
We know this through demonstrated preference. People do NOT go join ‘libertarian’ outposts. Because the total cost is far higher than the total gain.
‘Arbitrary law’ societies attract people for whom the cost of parasitism upon the productivity of others is less than they can obtain from parasitism upon the productivity of others.
And they only last as long as some group doesn’t choose to destroy them.
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-24 09:18:00 UTC
CULTURAL COMMENTARY: AMERICAN TRASH – TALKING
Living with my brother in law and re-learning the fine art of american repartee. Americans evolved to add ‘macho’ and ‘hyperbole’ to British wit – creating absurd exaggerations as harmless insults.
And it is like a comfort food if you’ve been away for a long time – especially amongst the eastern slavs.
Americans also have a physicality that we share with our Russian Cousins, unlike our continental relations – whom always seem a touch effeminate to us. And this combination of macho insult, and traditional british intellectual insult, is a verbal sport that binds us.
Ukrainans and Russians not only don’t find it funny, but think it is stupid. Hyperbole – another american trait – self effacing humor, self ridicule, and reciprocal humiliation, about one’s intelligence, character and masculinity, is alien to them. And I found myself constantly ‘corrected’ by the women in my life.
However, this kind of humor can be used to form bonds of trust across vast differences in experience – and that is what was needed by americans whether in the military, the working class labor pool, or in our social and family groups.
And for all my effeteness I love every ridiculous bit of it.
Would I rather live as far as possible from one of america’s ‘immigrant cities’ (plantations)? Absolutely. Would I prefer to live in europe where the state is more protective of consumers? Yes I would. Would I rather live among the slavs? Yes. I would.
I would sacrifice institutional veracity for a land where family is more important than individual and government; where men are free to act as men, and women as women; and where entertainment is provided by friends and travel instead of purchases. Because the future for a person in the east is family amidst limited consumption of non-familial goods. And the future of a person in the west is a little box of an apartment waiting to die – alone.
Government in america, ad the hands of jewish socialists and New England puritans has destroyed the family, the culture, and nearly, the civilization.
The price one pay’s is one’s comfort foods: institutional, cultural, and material.
And it is a fair trade.
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-24 09:02:00 UTC
Damn it. Agency. That’s the last piece of the puzzle.
Aristocracy (Aryans) were the first to rise above the animal, by the use of technology, such that increasing numbers could possess agency.
First fire, then copper, then bronze, then iron, then steel.
The pursuit of truth is merely a necessity in of the pursuit of agency.
Truth is not a good in and of itself, it is agency that is the end good.
Because when possessed of agency we are in fact the gods at whatever scale we possess that agency.
That is the story I was looking for: of truth, action, transcendence, and the domestication of others to increase the numbers of those with agency.
Conversely, anything that limits agency is therefore ‘bad’ and counter to transcendence. (Hence stoicism for mindfulness.)
We do not ONLY eliminate the lies of the semites, egyptians, and persians becasue they are false and cause harm, but because they deny agency, and to deny agency is to deny the transcendence from animal into human and human into gods.
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-24 08:39:00 UTC
(from elsewhere)
—“Aristocracy, in a propertarian social order, would be (in very general lines) established by the acquisition of property rights under the condition of defending othersβ property rights with violence.”—
There you go. π
Suggestion. I do not see aristocracy as providing positive direction (politics), but negative judgement (law). As those who have earned and held wealth over generations, the upper aristocracy forms a market for ideas that will improve the entire polity. I do not make the mistake that aristocracy leads by command except in war. Only that aristocracy creates markets wherein only those with merit rise from undomesticated animal to peer: sovereign human.
–“Hierarchy is the only organized way a people can coexist.”–
um. I say that hierarchy is the way we exist because of the demonstrated differences in our abilities and value to one another, and therefore the way we organize; and the only way we can organize; and if possessed of property rights, do organize; but do so voluntarily, meritocratically, and in one another’s interests; under rule of natural law, not rule of command.
This is a more subtle method of describing natural processes when our natural abilities are freed by property rights.
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-24 08:30:00 UTC
“Trump was not hired to do the job of a president, he was hired to be a wrecking ball to destroy the Washington establishment.” #Trump
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-24 08:14:00 UTC
Interesting analysis
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-24 07:47:00 UTC