Curt Doolittle

Form: Mini Essay

  • The Myth of The Noble Savages vs The the Debts of Ignoble Savages

    (unpleasant)(insensitivity warning) —“Violence is a precious resource. We civilised thewhole world using violence. That’s the history ofcivilisation: the incremental suppression of parasitismthrough the organised application of violence.”–Curt Doolittle —“Thoughts?”– Joel Harvey —“If by “parasitism” you mean “the extermination of indigenous people who had a reciprocal relationship with the world and then the forced conversion of there children, theft of there resources and obliteration of there memories so the could end up fat useless consumers” then yeah brother, We are lovely“— Damien Woodgate Yes, we dragged them out of ignorance, superstition, hard labor, poverty, starvation, disease, suffering, child mortality, early death, and endemic violence – and we did it for profit, and we did it against their will; and they fought us kicking and screaming, all the way; and they are unthankful for it. And other than profiting from it, and having a great european civil war over the profitability of it, and leaving the job unfinished, so rather than continue our work, that we had to fight the communists and now the islamists in their attempts at reversal of our work, while fighting the jews and puritans within our societies undermining our work, it seems to have done us no good – because they make up fantasy stories of the noble savage living peaceful lives in harmony with nature, instead of half domesticated animals at malthusian limits relentlessly preying upon one another in endemic competition, corruption, violence, and warfare. So yes, we failed to complete our program of profiting from the domestication of barely humane humans, and enforcing farming, industry, technology, science, medicine, plenty, literacy, relative peace, charity to women, and long lives upon them, and they are resentful, because they cannot bear the thought of thanking us when we succeeded, or thanking us for exterminating those who were the most primitive, the most work, and who were dedicated out failure. We are not equals as individuals as classes, as groups, polities, nations, civilizations, or “races” if that means anything more than ‘civilizations’. We dragged all of mankind out of barbarism. No man is a hero to his debtors. That said, none of us should expect respect or appreciation from our debtors. Our project was incomplete. However, in retrospect, we could have and perhaps should have treated white man’s burden as Pragmatic Heathen rather than Utopian Christian and instead of converting (educating) them, and improving their condition, simply engaged in organized replacement of them. Because history shows we always ‘lose’ when we are tolerant, ruling, or colonizing, and we have always ‘won’ and advanced ourselves and mankind rapidly whenever we conduct replacement. And that is the lesson that our ungrateful ‘Debtors’ have taught us (yet again). The evidence is rather glaringly obvious: Replacement of less domesticated (evolved) peoples is the dominant force in developmental history, and produces the optimum results for not only us, but for all mankind. Hence the necessity of separatism. That is the lesson of history.

  • THE MYTH OF THE NOBLE SAVAGES VS THE THE DEBTS OF IGNOBLE SAVAGES (unpleasant)(i

    THE MYTH OF THE NOBLE SAVAGES VS THE THE DEBTS OF IGNOBLE SAVAGES

    (unpleasant)(insensitivity warning)

    —“Violence is a precious resource. We civilised the

    whole world using violence. That’s the history of

    civilisation: the incremental suppression of parasitism

    through the organised application of violence.”–Curt Doolittle

    —“Thoughts?”– Joel Harvey

    —“If by “parasitism” you mean “the extermination of indigenous people who had a reciprocal relationship with the world and then the forced conversion of there children, theft of there resources and obliteration of there memories so the could end up fat useless consumers” then yeah brother, We are lovely”— Damien Woodgate

    Yes, we dragged them out of ignorance, superstition, hard labor, poverty, starvation, disease, suffering, child mortality, early death, and endemic violence – and we did it for profit, and we did it against their will; and they fought us kicking and screaming, all the way; and they are unthankful for it.

    And other than profiting from it, and having a great european civil war over the profitability of it, and leaving the job unfinished, so rather than continue our work, that we had to fight the communists and now the islamists in their attempts at reversal of our work, while fighting the jews and puritans within our societies undermining our work, it seems to have done us no good – because they make up fantasy stories of the noble savage living peaceful lives in harmony with nature, instead of half domesticated animals at malthusian limits relentlessly preying upon one another in endemic competition, corruption, violence, and warfare.

    So yes, we failed to complete our program of profiting from the domestication of barely humane humans, and enforcing farming, industry, technology, science, medicine, plenty, literacy, relative peace, charity to women, and long lives upon them, and they are resentful, because they cannot bear the thought of thanking us when we succeeded, or thanking us for exterminating those who were the most primitive, the most work, and who were dedicated out failure. We are not equals as individuals as classes, as groups, polities, nations, civilizations, or “races” if that means anything more than ‘civilizations’.

    We dragged all of mankind out of barbarism. No man is a hero to his debtors. That said, none of us should expect respect or appreciation from our debtors. Our project was incomplete. However, in retrospect, we could have and perhaps should have treated white man’s burden as Pragmatic Heathen rather than Utopian Christian and instead of converting (educating) them, and improving their condition, simply engaged in organized replacement of them. Because history shows we always ‘lose’ when we are tolerant, ruling, or colonizing, and we have always ‘won’ and advanced ourselves and mankind rapidly whenever we conduct replacement.

    And that is the lesson that our ungrateful ‘Debtors’ have taught us (yet again). The evidence is rather glaringly obvious: Replacement of less domesticated (evolved) peoples is the dominant force in developmental history, and produces the optimum results for not only us, but for all mankind. Hence the necessity of separatism.

    That is the lesson of history.

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-27 08:16:00 UTC

  • The the Debts of Ignoble Savages

    October 27th, 2018 8:16 AM THE MYTH OF THE NOBLE SAVAGES VS THE THE DEBTS OF IGNOBLE SAVAGES (unpleasant)(insensitivity warning)

    —“Violence is a precious resource. We civilised the whole world using violence. That’s the history of civilisation: the incremental suppression of parasitism through the organised application of violence.”–Curt Doolittle —“Thoughts?”– Joel Harvey —“If by “parasitism” you mean “the extermination of indigenous people who had a reciprocal relationship with the world and then the forced conversion of there children, theft of there resources and obliteration of there memories so the could end up fat useless consumers” then yeah brother, We are lovely”— Damien Woodgate

    Yes, we dragged them out of ignorance, superstition, hard labor, poverty, starvation, disease, suffering, child mortality, early death, and endemic violence – and we did it for profit, and we did it against their will; and they fought us kicking and screaming, all the way; and they are unthankful for it. And other than profiting from it, and having a great european civil war over the profitability of it, and leaving the job unfinished, so rather than continue our work, that we had to fight the communists and now the islamists in their attempts at reversal of our work, while fighting the jews and puritans within our societies undermining our work, it seems to have done us no good – because they make up fantasy stories of the noble savage living peaceful lives in harmony with nature, instead of half domesticated animals at malthusian limits relentlessly preying upon one another in endemic competition, corruption, violence, and warfare. So yes, we failed to complete our program of profiting from the domestication of barely humane humans, and enforcing farming, industry, technology, science, medicine, plenty, literacy, relative peace, charity to women, and long lives upon them, and they are resentful, because they cannot bear the thought of thanking us when we succeeded, or thanking us for exterminating those who were the most primitive, the most work, and who were dedicated out failure. We are not equals as individuals as classes, as groups, polities, nations, civilizations, or “races” if that means anything more than ‘civilizations’. We dragged all of mankind out of barbarism. No man is a hero to his debtors. That said, none of us should expect respect or appreciation from our debtors. Our project was incomplete. However, in retrospect, we could have and perhaps should have treated white man’s burden as Pragmatic Heathen rather than Utopian Christian and instead of converting (educating) them, and improving their condition, simply engaged in organized replacement of them. Because history shows we always ‘lose’ when we are tolerant, ruling, or colonizing, and we have always ‘won’ and advanced ourselves and mankind rapidly whenever we conduct replacement. And that is the lesson that our ungrateful ‘Debtors’ have taught us (yet again). The evidence is rather glaringly obvious: Replacement of less domesticated (evolved) peoples is the dominant force in developmental history, and produces the optimum results for not only us, but for all mankind. Hence the necessity of separatism. That is the lesson of history.

  • The the Debts of Ignoble Savages

    October 27th, 2018 8:16 AM THE MYTH OF THE NOBLE SAVAGES VS THE THE DEBTS OF IGNOBLE SAVAGES (unpleasant)(insensitivity warning)

    —“Violence is a precious resource. We civilised the whole world using violence. That’s the history of civilisation: the incremental suppression of parasitism through the organised application of violence.”–Curt Doolittle —“Thoughts?”– Joel Harvey —“If by “parasitism” you mean “the extermination of indigenous people who had a reciprocal relationship with the world and then the forced conversion of there children, theft of there resources and obliteration of there memories so the could end up fat useless consumers” then yeah brother, We are lovely”— Damien Woodgate

    Yes, we dragged them out of ignorance, superstition, hard labor, poverty, starvation, disease, suffering, child mortality, early death, and endemic violence – and we did it for profit, and we did it against their will; and they fought us kicking and screaming, all the way; and they are unthankful for it. And other than profiting from it, and having a great european civil war over the profitability of it, and leaving the job unfinished, so rather than continue our work, that we had to fight the communists and now the islamists in their attempts at reversal of our work, while fighting the jews and puritans within our societies undermining our work, it seems to have done us no good – because they make up fantasy stories of the noble savage living peaceful lives in harmony with nature, instead of half domesticated animals at malthusian limits relentlessly preying upon one another in endemic competition, corruption, violence, and warfare. So yes, we failed to complete our program of profiting from the domestication of barely humane humans, and enforcing farming, industry, technology, science, medicine, plenty, literacy, relative peace, charity to women, and long lives upon them, and they are resentful, because they cannot bear the thought of thanking us when we succeeded, or thanking us for exterminating those who were the most primitive, the most work, and who were dedicated out failure. We are not equals as individuals as classes, as groups, polities, nations, civilizations, or “races” if that means anything more than ‘civilizations’. We dragged all of mankind out of barbarism. No man is a hero to his debtors. That said, none of us should expect respect or appreciation from our debtors. Our project was incomplete. However, in retrospect, we could have and perhaps should have treated white man’s burden as Pragmatic Heathen rather than Utopian Christian and instead of converting (educating) them, and improving their condition, simply engaged in organized replacement of them. Because history shows we always ‘lose’ when we are tolerant, ruling, or colonizing, and we have always ‘won’ and advanced ourselves and mankind rapidly whenever we conduct replacement. And that is the lesson that our ungrateful ‘Debtors’ have taught us (yet again). The evidence is rather glaringly obvious: Replacement of less domesticated (evolved) peoples is the dominant force in developmental history, and produces the optimum results for not only us, but for all mankind. Hence the necessity of separatism. That is the lesson of history.

  • The Grave of Postmodernism

    October 25th, 2018 10:01 AM THE LAST FEW SHOVEL-FULLS IN THE GRAVE OF POSTMODERNISM 1) I’m happy to go into depth on this subject but the argument is quite simple, and was put forward by a commenter:

    –“Postmodernists: question who controls knowledge and where it comes from”–

    Yes, that is a postmodernist (sophist). 2) A Scientist: Truth (coherent, consistent, correspondent, rational, reciprocal, limited, and complete) is power independent. Either you are engaging in full reciprocity correspondent with reality or you are not. 3) Pomo is an attempt to circumvent (conduct a fraud) by casting power as arbitrary, truth as arbitrary, reciprocity as arbitrary when they are necessary, and a presumption of an arbitrary good (equality rather than evolutionary survival) as justification for the fraud. 4) Hicks‘ argument, which you did not understand, is that POMO is an evolution of the (Marxist) means by which to circumvent reciprocity (science, economics, and law) by claiming power (science/truth, law/power, economics/necessity) is sentimental and psychological (arbitrary). 5) My argument, a bit more articulate that Hicks’, is that this attempt at fraud is not only from Marxism to Postmodernism, but from the long history of Pilpul/Critique, Abrahamic Law, Platonism, Abrahamic Monotheism, Abrahamic Theology, and Continental Philosophy (Rousseau/Kant) 6) And that under Pilpul(Justificationism) and Critique (Straw Manning, disapproval, shaming, ridicule, gossiping, rallying) any internal consistency (constant relations) can be argued (story or fraud constructed) to violate correspondence, reciprocity, limits, and completeness. 7) And that under Falsificationism (Survival) from tests of coherence, consistency, correspondence, existential possibility, rationality, reciprocity, limits and completeness (what we test in court) such Frauds (Lies to cover Thefts) are exposed. Leaving only truth candidates. 8) So while you merely made a list of STATED INTENTIONS, as scientists (and jurists) we measure the form of argument (lying) and the changes in state (thefts), and the means, motives and opportunity used (criminal liability) not the STATED INTENTION (lies) of the actor. 9) One is not liable for his intentions but for his consequences. One acts given the resources available(means), the institutions available (opportunity) to produce reciprocity (meritocracy) and therefore continuous eugenic evolution (survival from competition) or the opposite. 10) Ergo, Marx (econ/history), Boas (Anthro/Soc.), Freud(Psych), Cantor (math platonism), Frankfurt (Norms,Traditions,Habits,Institutions), the French Postmodernists (Reason Itself) sought to use the ancient techniques of overloading (lying) by pseudoscience (marx et al) and …. 11) … sophism (Derrida, Foucault, Rorty, Heidegger) to construct a disinformation campaign w/Critique: poisoning the well with a straw man criticism) in order to perpetuate a fraud(theft) by attacking Poincare, Maxwell,Darwin,Menger, Spencer, Nietzsche, and the Eugenicists … 12) … who were seeking to restate the successful group evolutionary strategy of western civilization (transcendence: by adaptive velocity ) using Sovereignty, Reciprocity, Truth and Duty, Jury and Tort Law, and Markets (empirical evidence of reciprocity) in everything … 13) … including association, cooperation, reproduction, production, production of commons, polities, and defense(war), in scientific terms (The One Language of Truthful Speech, under the One Law of Reciprocity). 14) Because it was this group strategy (today called “OODA Loops” in military, and “innovation” in economics, technology, and science), that allowed western civ in the ancient and modern worlds, to drag mankind kicking and screaming out of superstition, ignorance, poverty, starvation, hard labor, disease, suffering, child mortality, early death, brutality, arbitrary rule, tyranny, and the vicissitudes of nature, in a universe hostile to life. 15) So your ‘list of excuses-of-intent’ by stating ‘quotes of intent’ are just attempts to perpetuate the dysgenic, defeatist, destructive, fraud, of using sophisticated lies (sophisms, supernaturalisms, pseudosciences) to appeal to sentiments as a means of obtaining power. 16) When your use of that power, as we have seen, is to destroy the modern world as the abrahamists (jews, christians, and muslims) destroyed the great civilizations of the ancient world, costing us more than a thousand years of dark age, and a billion deaths … 17) … for no other purpose than pursuing dysgenia, destruction of capital, the manufacture of ignorance, in the 3500 year struggle of the primitive peoples (equalitarian poverty and ignorance) against the advancing peoples (meritocratic wealth and knowledge). 18) So I am not only calling you and other POMO’s Frauds, Sophists, and Thieves, but the Enemy of Mankind and the bringers of destruction, ignorance, poverty, dysgenia, and suffering. The only equality is poverty. The only wealth is differences (hierarchy). Because it is by hierarchy (Pareto, or Power Laws) that we can construct the voluntary organization of research, invention, investment, production, distribution, and trade, using the selfish incentives of man with the limited knowledge at his disposal, to seize the optimum opportunity at his disposal, such that together we defeat the dark forces of time and ignorance – despite none of us knowing more than a fraction of the existential knowledge we all possess. 19) And like I said, if you studied Physics, Genetic and Cultural Differences, Political Economy, and Law (the complete scientific method), then you would understand such things – instead of reading Sophomoric Political Fantasy Fiction. 20) Transcendence (Evolution), by Sovereignty, Reciprocity, Truth, Duty, The Natural Law of Tort, An Independent Judiciary (Nomocracy), and the only option remaining under all of the above: Markets for voluntary cooperation in all aspects of life. — closing — It is a well researched bit of knowledge that we claim a lie is performed by intent, but that we judge whether we lie by our preferences and cognitive biases. So we lie on behalf of our intuitions, not on behalf of the truth or falsehood of our statements. Ergo, we lie not just by intention, but by failing to perform due diligence against lying by intuition in the absence of intention. We are not only liable for our intended actions, but failures of due diligence before taking actions. We all self insure ourselves against falsehood. Some of us specialize in the fraud of escaping self insurance, by escaping due diligence against ignorance, error, bias, and deceit. — differences — Doolittle (law), Taleb (statistics), Hicks (Intellectual history)

  • REMOVE THE SILLY SPIRITUALITY NONSENSE AND THE POINT IS SOLID. If you read the r

    REMOVE THE SILLY SPIRITUALITY NONSENSE AND THE POINT IS SOLID.

    If you read the research on the success of the alt/hard right, it is very clear: “the key people put together text and video that explains the subject matter and this education is the reason for their success.”

    In this post, the author is reiterating Mao’s message that ‘education’ is necessary for guerrilla warfare, and the western proposition that it is unnecessary and undesirable in a standing army is a reflection of our dependence upon rule of law and markets rather than authority and managed economy.

    ===

    by Elders of the Black Sun 3 (some kid i don’t knw who)

    “In the United States, we go to considerable trouble to keep soldiers out of politics, and even more to keep politics out of soldiers.

    Guerrillas do exactly the opposite.

    They go to great lengths to make sure that their men are politically educated and thoroughly aware of the issues at stake.

    A trained and disciplined guerrilla is much more than a patriotic peasant, workman, or student armed with an antiquated fowling-piece and a home-made bomb.

    His indoctrination begins even before he is taught to shoot accurately, and it is unceasing.

    The end product is an intensely loyal and politically alert fighting man.

    Guerrilla leaders spend a great deal more time in organization, instruction, agitation, and propaganda work than they do fighting, for their most important job is to win over the people.

    “We must patiently explain,” says Mao Tse-tung.

    “Explain”, “persuade”, “discuss”, “convince”—these words recur with monotonous regularity in many of the early Chinese essays on guerrilla war.

    Mao has aptly compared guerrillas to fish, and the people to the water in which they swim.

    If the political temperature is right, the fish, however few in number, will thrive and proliferate.

    It is therefore the principal concern of all guerrilla leaders to get the water to the right temperature and to keep it there.”

    Brigadier General Samuel B. Griffith, USMC

    —

    “The political goal must be clearly and precisely indicated to inhabitants of guerrilla zones and their national consciousness awakened.” – Mao tse-Tung

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 18:09:00 UTC

  • THAT’S 500% MORE THAN NECESSARY USA: 6% HARD RIGHT, 8% HARD LEFT? Well, that mea

    http://fortune.com/2018/10/22/far-right-americans-just-six-person-study-saysUM. THAT’S 500% MORE THAN NECESSARY

    USA: 6% HARD RIGHT, 8% HARD LEFT? Well, that means that 10% of the ethnically european population is hard right. That’s more than either the christianization of rome 9%, or the nazis in germany 7% or the Bolsheviks in Russia ~3%.

    I always thought that the “Democratic” ideal confused people. A society survives by the smallest number of men willing and able to engage in civil war to end it.Usually takes only 1-3% of the male population. There are 500% more than necessary. (And they have 80% of the weapons.)

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 13:51:00 UTC

  • SO, ARAB (AND BY PROX MUSLIM) ‘DIGNITY’ (SELF) VS WESTERN ‘REPUTATION’ (OTHERS)

    SO, ARAB (AND BY PROX MUSLIM) ‘DIGNITY’ (SELF) VS WESTERN ‘REPUTATION’ (OTHERS)

    For those of you who have read this:

    “FACE AMONG THE ARABS”

    https://www.facebook.com/curt.doolittle/posts/10156731036117264

    This means ‘dignity’ as ‘given’ rather than ‘respect’ as “earned’ is not unique to Arab (semitic in general) civilizations. But most common there. And it is encoded in the Muslim Religion as all men are due dignity rather than all men must earn respect by their words and deeds.

    This ‘face’ is different from east asian face (harmony) and different from western face (truth regardless of consequences). I am not sure how to categorize Indian civilization yet within this context, but it appears closer to western and asian than semitic.

    And for those of you who understand this:

    —“The west differs from the rest in that we must demonstrate honor by speaking the truth no matter the consequences to the dominance dominance hierarchy, including our own.”—

    This statement is in fact the uniqueness of western civilization from which all our reason, law, science, technology, and economic superiority evolved. This ONE BEHAVIOR is the secret to western civilization.

    So, these two systems (western and semitic) are why our civilizations, especially given that most muslims are relatively poor and underclass, and most christians are relatively wealthy by comparison and middle class – are signal-and-norm incompatible.

    In this sense the muslim INTOLERANCE is greater (and more successful) than the western level of intolerance, even though the OUTCOME of western intolerance (reinforced by our law demanding truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, regardless of consequences to our reputations and those of others) is far superior to the muslim demand for ‘respect unearned’ (dignity).

    Because we domesticate the lower classes of man (the animal man so to speak) by signals (status signals) including demonstrations of ridicule, shame, ignoring them, disapproval, removal of opportunity, and punishment, by CONSTANT TRUTH AND MERIT TESTING, that is a threat do the Semitic and by extension Muslim sense of self worth.

    Hence why we are incompatible and we must suppress the primitive law (competitor to law) and suppress the primitive norms (competitors to our norms) in order to preserve the economic velocity that both the underclasses and the middle classes and (the extortive) upper classes depend upon.

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 12:10:00 UTC

  • —“How Can I Understand Stoicism?”—

    October 24th, 2018 2:29 PM —“CURT: HOW CAN I UNDERSTAND STOICISM?”— Well there are a number of implied questions in there. 1) Do you mean so that you understand why I say it is superior to religion for the purpose of building mindfulness? 2) Do you want to learn how and why it functions scientifically? 3) Do you want to improve your own view of life (very hard to imagine anyone who follows me has that kind of issue, but maybe) 4) Do you want to solve a problem in your life or others? So, here is a series that takes you through the ‘Adult Version” from scientific through literary, to statistical. BOOK LISTSCIENTIFIC VIEW “Stoic Philosophy as Rational and Cognitive Psychotherapy ” This is the closest book to the science of stoicism that I know of: https://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Cognitive-Behavioural-Therapy-Psychotherapy/dp/1855757567 CURATIVE (NEGATIVE) VIEW “Build Your Resistance” This takes the idea and puts it into practice: https://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Resilience-Survive-Situation/dp/1444168711/ AMPLYFYING (POSITIVE) VIEW “A Guide to the Good Life” https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Good-Life-Ancient-Stoic/dp/0195374614 BIOGRAPHICAL (EXAMPLE) VIEW: Everyone recommends reading The Meditations of Aurelius as EVIDENCE that a great and powerful man used the practice every day in his diary. The alternative to (or supplement to) reading his book is THINK LIKE A ROMAN EMPEROR: https://www.amazon.com/How-Think-Like-Roman-Emperor/dp/1250196620 which walks you thru the great man’s life and puts context to his writings. For me it was actually The Letters of Michel de Montaigne (a christianized jew) that gave me an intellectual role model. So I recommend that as well. POLITICAL VIEW: Same for Machiavelli’s “The Prince” which i consider the first book on political science precisely because it is a work of stoic mindfulness. STATISTICAL VIEW: While it isn’t positioned this way, both BLACK SWAN (Unpredictable Outliers are Far More Important Than Daily Noise) and ANTI-FRAGILE (“That which doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, and stronger, and stronger”) are effectively works on Stoicism for smart people. ==== COMMENTARY === So, if you’re a high-iq aspie you’re a stoic by nature. Why? Um. We don’t have all those social fears because we frankly can’t feel any of them. lol. And we kind of think they’re silly. However, we are often ‘ostracized’ when young and have to find out how to fit in. So we have the opposite problem. My family – at least on my mother’s side (french) is just naturally stoic. So my interest in stoicism is political, and because of that scientific. So, I can recommend books to normies, but for geeks who need the scientific approach (who are naturally predisposed to resist suggestion) it’s actually pretty hard find a book to recommend – because most stoic reading is framed as self help. Stoicism isn’t framed as “Hey, between stoicism and nature, hero, deity worship (‘thanks’), and public ritual and festival (safety in the pack or herd), this set of practices was the collective constitution of our ancient religion”. It’s just that we didn’t IMPOSE that religion as did the monotheists, and didn’t write it down as a LAW. Same for our entire philosophy of western civilization (which is what I have tried to do.) We didn’t say: “Military service, particularly in formations, requires you develop stoicism in order to survive and thrive under the stresses of it all”. So between the necessity of military mindfulness, and the utility of applying that mindfulness to the even more chaotic social order our aristocratic ancestors converted the techniques into a standard method of education. They didn’t call it religion but philosophy. So there are people who want self-help so that they can self author (Develop Mindfulness). And there are people who want to understand WHY self help (self authoring) serves the function of rational self training vs the rituals and myths of the supernatural in GROUP form. Stoicism consists of cognitive behavioral therapy in the negative sense, and simply education and training in the positive sense. I consider it ‘self authoring’. but that is because it is taught as an individual discipline rather than a ‘we’ as is religion. I find stoicism to be reducible to ‘don/t’ take it personally, Do your best, Tell the Truth. Keep your word’. The problem is that there are bigger human questions that we need mental defense against. Some people need a guide. Some people are self guided. Some people need to follow the herd as their guide. one way or the other CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) to discipline the mind (Train) works.

  • —“How Can I Understand Stoicism?”—

    October 24th, 2018 2:29 PM —“CURT: HOW CAN I UNDERSTAND STOICISM?”— Well there are a number of implied questions in there. 1) Do you mean so that you understand why I say it is superior to religion for the purpose of building mindfulness? 2) Do you want to learn how and why it functions scientifically? 3) Do you want to improve your own view of life (very hard to imagine anyone who follows me has that kind of issue, but maybe) 4) Do you want to solve a problem in your life or others? So, here is a series that takes you through the ‘Adult Version” from scientific through literary, to statistical. BOOK LISTSCIENTIFIC VIEW “Stoic Philosophy as Rational and Cognitive Psychotherapy ” This is the closest book to the science of stoicism that I know of: https://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Cognitive-Behavioural-Therapy-Psychotherapy/dp/1855757567 CURATIVE (NEGATIVE) VIEW “Build Your Resistance” This takes the idea and puts it into practice: https://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Resilience-Survive-Situation/dp/1444168711/ AMPLYFYING (POSITIVE) VIEW “A Guide to the Good Life” https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Good-Life-Ancient-Stoic/dp/0195374614 BIOGRAPHICAL (EXAMPLE) VIEW: Everyone recommends reading The Meditations of Aurelius as EVIDENCE that a great and powerful man used the practice every day in his diary. The alternative to (or supplement to) reading his book is THINK LIKE A ROMAN EMPEROR: https://www.amazon.com/How-Think-Like-Roman-Emperor/dp/1250196620 which walks you thru the great man’s life and puts context to his writings. For me it was actually The Letters of Michel de Montaigne (a christianized jew) that gave me an intellectual role model. So I recommend that as well. POLITICAL VIEW: Same for Machiavelli’s “The Prince” which i consider the first book on political science precisely because it is a work of stoic mindfulness. STATISTICAL VIEW: While it isn’t positioned this way, both BLACK SWAN (Unpredictable Outliers are Far More Important Than Daily Noise) and ANTI-FRAGILE (“That which doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, and stronger, and stronger”) are effectively works on Stoicism for smart people. ==== COMMENTARY === So, if you’re a high-iq aspie you’re a stoic by nature. Why? Um. We don’t have all those social fears because we frankly can’t feel any of them. lol. And we kind of think they’re silly. However, we are often ‘ostracized’ when young and have to find out how to fit in. So we have the opposite problem. My family – at least on my mother’s side (french) is just naturally stoic. So my interest in stoicism is political, and because of that scientific. So, I can recommend books to normies, but for geeks who need the scientific approach (who are naturally predisposed to resist suggestion) it’s actually pretty hard find a book to recommend – because most stoic reading is framed as self help. Stoicism isn’t framed as “Hey, between stoicism and nature, hero, deity worship (‘thanks’), and public ritual and festival (safety in the pack or herd), this set of practices was the collective constitution of our ancient religion”. It’s just that we didn’t IMPOSE that religion as did the monotheists, and didn’t write it down as a LAW. Same for our entire philosophy of western civilization (which is what I have tried to do.) We didn’t say: “Military service, particularly in formations, requires you develop stoicism in order to survive and thrive under the stresses of it all”. So between the necessity of military mindfulness, and the utility of applying that mindfulness to the even more chaotic social order our aristocratic ancestors converted the techniques into a standard method of education. They didn’t call it religion but philosophy. So there are people who want self-help so that they can self author (Develop Mindfulness). And there are people who want to understand WHY self help (self authoring) serves the function of rational self training vs the rituals and myths of the supernatural in GROUP form. Stoicism consists of cognitive behavioral therapy in the negative sense, and simply education and training in the positive sense. I consider it ‘self authoring’. but that is because it is taught as an individual discipline rather than a ‘we’ as is religion. I find stoicism to be reducible to ‘don/t’ take it personally, Do your best, Tell the Truth. Keep your word’. The problem is that there are bigger human questions that we need mental defense against. Some people need a guide. Some people are self guided. Some people need to follow the herd as their guide. one way or the other CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) to discipline the mind (Train) works.