Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • “What about X dogma?”– There were no christians after Jesus

    –“What about X dogma?”–

    There were no christians after Jesus.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-15 12:43:00 UTC

  • WHY A UNIVERSAL RELIGION? Well, if you (a) ban falsehood, and (b) provide a non-

    WHY A UNIVERSAL RELIGION?

    Well, if you (a) ban falsehood, and (b) provide a non-false ‘religion’, what will occur? Do you need a universal religion?


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-15 11:45:00 UTC

  • CHRISTIAN ETHICS IN FIVE RULES (IN ORDER) 1) Do nothing unto others that you wou

    CHRISTIAN ETHICS IN FIVE RULES (IN ORDER)

    1) Do nothing unto others that you would not have done unto you.

    2) Do unto others, only what they desire done unto them.

    3) Exhaust forgiveness for that which they do unto you, before retaliating.

    4) Retaliate only to the minimum extent necessary to prevent harms to you and others – do not seek revenge.

    5) Extirpate all hatred from your heart.

    This is the optimum strategy humans can adopt in order to construct cooperation despite differences.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-15 10:29:00 UTC

  • PUT A FORK IN IT. RELIGION IS BAKED. I’m gonna call religion ‘baked’ and put a f

    PUT A FORK IN IT. RELIGION IS BAKED.

    I’m gonna call religion ‘baked’ and put a fork in it. It’s fully decidable now. So, that means, it took, from the early spring of 2015 to the late spring of 2017 for me to solve it. And that makes religion the most difficult subject I’ve had to solve among the disciplines and institutions. Truth was nowhere near as hard because mathematicians and computer scientists had done so much work, even if logicians really ended up in nonsense land. Of the three disciplines, only computer science refrained from idealism (platonism). But I was able to combine the work of a century of ‘thinkers’ to make testimonial truth possible.

    OK. So the remaining work is just to finish the constitution (application of propertarianism, testimonialism, … etc) and then the really, really …. unpleasant work, is producing the examples of the more subtle concepts in testimonialism into an algorithm (set of steps) that are sufficient for the courts.

    I don’t think I need to do that to publish. I think getting the ideas together is one job. putting the ‘courses’ together another job. And surrounding it with literary history in the Robert Greene model is last.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-15 10:19:00 UTC

  • PETERSON, HAIDT, AND DOOLITTLE (AND TALEB) AND THE NEED FOR RELIGION AS CONTINUO

    PETERSON, HAIDT, AND DOOLITTLE (AND TALEB) AND THE NEED FOR RELIGION AS CONTINUOUS THERAPY DUE TO OUR LOSS OF STOICISM

    (profound) (read this)

    I’d venture that Peterson’s current with psychology and if you were to read both his work (therapy) and Haidt’s work (morality), haidt does not retreat into the literary (religion). And so you sort of get the same message against postmodernism from both Haidt(Morality) and Peterson(Psychology), and me (Decidability). The difference is between personal, political, and legal.

    Now I agree that appealing to myth and literature is a way of CREATING A DISTANCE BETWEEN THE INDIVIDUAL AND HIS EXPERIENCES SO THAT HE CAN ASSESS THEM.

    Theraputically, that is what myth and literature allow you to do: look at yourself(feelings) and ‘norms’ (via ancient myths still living) in a depersonalized way.

    And having depersonalized YOURSELF and depersonalized SOCIETY AND OTHERS your rational (human) mind can be used to defeat (reprogram) the animal and reptilian mind.

    I mean. But that’s operationally what is going on.

    It’s what talk therapy tries to do through one-on-one safety.

    It’s what exposure therapy tries to do through social (mentor) safety.

    It’s what literary analysis tries to do through social (religious) therapy.

    It’s exactly what anti-depressants allow you to do.

    That’s exactly what hallucinogens allow you to do.

    I mean, all of it it. All of religion is just THERAPY. It’s therapy that’s only necessary because of ignorance, poor teaching, and our lack of continuous reinforcement from the family and tribe in a vast, alienating, impossible-to-calculate division of perception, knowledge, and labor, using an information system increasingly dependent upon nothing except REJECTION and PRICES.

    The problem is achieving enough detachment that you can reprogram (assign new weights) to memories and relations without at the same time reinforcing the weights of existing traumas.

    I mean. It’s not even scientifically difficult.

    What’s difficult is the near universal ignorance among us that this is what we’re doing, why we’re doing it by the different means, and why it works, and why its necessary:

    WE LACK SUFFICIENT TRAINING (STOICISM) SO THAT WE REQUIRE CONTINUOUS THERAPY TO COMPENSATE.

    (this should be one of the most profound things you’ve read in your life)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-15 09:55:00 UTC

  • THE STRUCTURE OF ‘GOOD’ and ‘TRUE’ RELIGION. As far as I know, the optimum relig

    THE STRUCTURE OF ‘GOOD’ and ‘TRUE’ RELIGION.

    As far as I know, the optimum religion (teaching) we currently can know of consists of:

    1) Myths-Fables-Fairy Tales, Biographies, History.

    2) Literary Analysis: Transcendence, thru Virtues

    3) Disciplines that teach the virtues (and provide comforts)

    4) Reward for learning with the joy of submission to the pack (safety)

    5) Rewarding submission to the pack with Holidays and Festivals.

    (The problem is falsifying consumer-status and virtue signaling which is terribly addictive and makes us crazy.)

    This treatment allows the use of and analysis of all of our vast literature across the “Matters Of” Greece, Rome, Germania, Scandinavia, the Isles, and The Slavic Lands. And to rely on muth, biography and history for lessons.

    And to discourse on the virtues. Since man is constant and his struggles identical in each era, this provides an enormous set of choices for us.

    The difference is, (a) love one another, (b) love your people, (c) work as a community, (d) accept reality as inescapable and (e) adapt yourself to succeed in reality.

    What dogmas (favored messages, favored teachings) will emerge from such an order? I have no idea. The market will solve that problem. But as long as they are not false. As long as they are True, Good, And Desirable, then they are in fact ‘good’.

    HIERARCHY OF INSTITUTIONS

    3) Roman Paganism (archetypes) (categories and measures)

    2) Roman Stoicism (virtues) (via positiva) (subcategories and measures)

    1) Roman Law (limits) (via negativa) (further subcategories and measures)

    0) The Laws of Nature (science) further subcategories and measures)

    THE SYNTHESIS OF LITERATURE AND TRUTH

    (read it and weep) (stoicism) (truthful literature)

    1) THE MONOMYTH – Transcendence (Transformation)

    2) THE ARCHETYPES – Characters (Categories)

    3) THE VIRTUES – Comparison Operators (Values)

    4) THE ORDERS – Axioms (Relations: sets of conditions)

    5) THE NARRATIVES – Operations (Methods of change in state)

    6) THE DISCIPLINES – Mindfulness/Stoicism ( Noise Reduction)

    7) THE SCIENCES – Measurement (reduction of ignorance, error, bias, deception reduction)

    8) THE TRUTH – Parsimony (Most Parsimonious Operational Name of a Recipe of Transformation.)

    THE LIMITS

    There exists only one objective – transcendence.

    There exists only one narrative – transcendence

    There exist only a few sub-narratives – methods of transcendence

    There exist only so many non-false virtues – variables of transcendence

    There exist only so many portfolios of virtues – transcendent characters.

    There exist only so many methods of non-false noise reduction – transcendent mind.

    There exist only so many methods of non-false elimination of falsehoods – transcendent reason.

    There exists only so many sets of primary operations – transcendent truths.

    Via-Positiva:

    A myth can employ anthropomorphism in an act of transcendence.

    A myth can employ hyperbole (super-normalism) in an act of transcendence.

    A myth can employ any technique to create an immoral condition against which one employs virtues to transcend.

    A myth can employ virtues in an act of transcendence.

    Via Negativa:

    A myth cannot contradict the virtue of transcendence.

    A myth cannot contradict of a virtue of transcendence in an act of transcendence.

    A myth cannot employ a falsehood in an act of transcendence

    A myth cannot employ luck or miracles in an act of transcendence.

    A myth cannot employ fictionalism (idealism, supernaturalism, pseudoscience/pseudo-rationalism) in an act of transcendence.

    CONCLUSION

    If a myth can survive these tests then it is true, and good.

    If a myth cannot survives these tests then it is false, and evil.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-15 09:02:00 UTC

  • What evidence is there that Abrahamism isn’t anything more than the counter-enli

    What evidence is there that Abrahamism isn’t anything more than the counter-enlightenment against Aryanism (Aristocracy)?


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-14 13:34:00 UTC

  • THE LAYER CAKE OF SOCIAL ORDER RELIGION Religion evolved to provide understandin

    THE LAYER CAKE OF SOCIAL ORDER

    RELIGION

    Religion evolved to provide understanding of the word, virtues to imitate, and general prohibitions, across clans, tribes, and conquered nations, so that people could cooperate more easily and retaliate (feud) less frequently.

    Weapon: ostracization (death sentence)

    Records: memory of locals.

    LAW

    Law evolved to standardize punishments across clans, tribes, and conquered nations, to keep the peace, preserve productivity, preserve taxation, and legitimize (provide value by) rule.

    Weapon: violence, deprivation

    Records: written ledgers of crimes and punishments.

    CREDIT

    Credit rule evolved to increase productivity by the promise of consumption in the present, such that the primary form of social punishment was loss of consumption, status, and signaling.

    Weapon: deprivation of consumption, status, and signaling.

    Records: written and electronic records of creditworthiness.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-14 13:30:00 UTC

  • THE TRANSFORMATION OF CHRISTIANITY. —“How hard is it necessary to counter-sign

    THE TRANSFORMATION OF CHRISTIANITY.

    —“How hard is it necessary to counter-signal Christianity? I hate Christianity as such. But it doesn’t seem terribly productive because most of them are never going to change – at least in this generation.”— A Friend

    I don’t know myself. I’m running the experiment. That’s what I do. I attack ideas to see if they survive or not. Most long time followers know that’s how I work.

    So far I can’t find a reason to hold onto Christianity other than to take over the institutions and to demote the various fables to just ‘another one of the legends’.

    I would prefer to abandon all of the new testament and the majority of the old, other than some of the babylonian myths (the flood etc.). And I would like to cast each of the ‘gods’ of the zoroastrians and the abrahamists as different gods. And to restore sky-father as our ‘pater familia’.

    For the preachers, I can see using all legends to teach (a) transcendence, (b) the monomyth, (c) the various plots within the monomyth, (d) the archetypes that serve those plots, and (e) the virtues each archetype teaches us. Then to apply those lessons to the problems of the day or era. And to apply them to the cycles of life and the ways in which the different classes can handle them.

    For spirtuality, then to teach mindfulness and the virtues via stoicism, the discourse with the gods as reformed prayer, and the use, if necessary of meditation where prayer, and virtues fail.

    As for the ritual, to replace the apostle’s creed with an oath more suitable to our people (truth, duty, etc), and the sacrifice and feast ritual to something more suitable to our people.

    As for funding the church I prefer to merge the spiritual and material disciplines into one institution, by combining church and education, thereby providing a means of funding, and a constant flow of generations. A section of the constitution for the church/school as well as one for the state.

    To defend the church/school and the people, to attach an armory and militia and funding for the militia to any church that can raise one.

    If done so, then the church (family) is restored to its position as a competitor to the state (houses).

    This is the theory I”m working with since it eliminates falsehood, restores the competition between family and state, and provides a method of funding and opposing the state (government).

    This is but one small part of what I’m doing. I’m just working through the theory to see if it survives.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-14 13:17:00 UTC

  • Freedom of religion is even worse than freedom of speech. They both license dece

    Freedom of religion is even worse than freedom of speech. They both license deceit.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-14 11:09:00 UTC