Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • WHY WE ARGUE AGAINST CHRISTIANITY (ALL OF ABRAHAMISM) –“… you dismiss religio

    WHY WE ARGUE AGAINST CHRISTIANITY (ALL OF ABRAHAMISM)

    –“… you dismiss religion and marxism as a time saver…”—Parker Salingers

    Smart, and close. But…We don’t brush it off, we can answer it, but as you say, it’s a time sink, and it takes an intellectually honest opponent. And both time, energy, and intellectually honest opponents are scarce. So we weigh our investments in argument carefully.

    ABRAHAMISM AND DECEPTION VS LITERATURE AND TRUTH

    So, because monotheistic religions make use of the techniques of abrahamism (conflation, lies, falsehoods, denialism), And because prior to monotheism, law (truth) which is a literature of limits, was separated from mythical ‘religions’ (parables) – which are simply literature of pedagogy (opportunities) – we see no reason why people must be taught lies and superstition, rather than truth and literature, other than that they are not human – only half-domesticated animals, who, like our livestock and our pets, therefore cannot possible have a place in law and politics.

    SEEDING LETS US CHEAPLY SEARCH FOR HONEST OPPONENTS

    So we settle for repeating the ‘seeds’ of “if it’s good then why must you lie about it?’ And conversely, why has christianity failed to defend us? Why is christianity universalist? Why did vatican II double-down on universalism and conversion rather than personal acts of charity to neighbors? Why did protestant evangelicalism double down on fundamentalism and conversion rather than truth?

    THE CONSEQUENCES OF ABRAHAMISM

    It’s not that imitating the jesus myth if stated without supernatural connotations is a bad thing. It’s that the consequences of judaism were the loss of a homeland the adoption of parasitism and near extermination; the consequences of christianity were a dark age, our near conquest by arabs, mongols, and turks – and our rescue by our own ‘northern european pagans’ and our inability to resist them like we could not resist arabs, mongols, and turks; and the consequences of islam and the loss of all the great civilizations of the ancient world – byzantium, persia, phoenicia, egypt, and their decent into ignorance, mysticism, poverty – and worse of all: dysgenia.

    JESUS’ IDEA DEFLATED INTO TRUTH

    When I analyze (deflate) christianity into operational terms it is nothing more than *assuming the incentive to cooperate exists, overinvestment in cooperation will develop sufficient rewards and trust that cooperation without investment, and the high returns of cooperation can be produced*. This strategy is *counter to instinct*, so it must be trained into us. It can be trained into us by superstition (lies), storytelling (analogy), description(science), or discipline (training). So if the *wrapper* around christianity consists of lies, especially those leading to fundamentalism (use of religion in argument and politics) and therefore producing denialism and ignorance, and therefore damaging, then why perpetuate the the lies, and not simply teach the science as we have in every other discipline.

    THE RESTORATION OF THE WEST

    The restoration of western civilization will not be complete until abrahamism(lying) in all its supernatural forms: jewish, christian, islam, and abrahamism in its modern forms marxism(jewish-pseudoscientific), postmodernism(catholic-pseudorational), and anglo-keynesian (pseudoscientific) and judaism, christianity and Islam (supernatural fundamentalism) have all been extinguished from our lands, our institutions, our laws, our norms, and the people who inhabit them.

    THE RESTORATION OF OUR SUCCESS: TRUTH

    Because then we will return to our ancient strategy: truth above all else, and truth as the preferred means of climbing the dominance hierarchy.

    THE EXISTENTIAL (REAL) TRANSCENDENCE OF MAN

    Because truth is power over the falsehoods of man, the vicissitudes of nature, and the brutality of the physical universe.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-08 09:39:00 UTC

  • i figured out how to do it. hmmm. signals. religion

    i figured out how to do it. hmmm. signals. religion.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-07 23:10:00 UTC

  • by Eli Harman The two biggest lies of Christianity are monotheism (one God, one

    by Eli Harman

    The two biggest lies of Christianity are monotheism (one God, one truth, one law, one way, one life) and universalism (for EVERYONE.)

    This is a recipe for limitless mischief and most of it has actually come to pass.

    It’s a justification for centralization of power, authority, and everything else. And while it may have produced gains for a time from economies of scale, it’s long since passed the point where diseconomies come to the fore.

    Add to this the conflation of myth and superstition with ACTUAL history and science and you have an enfeebling, stultifying, regressive, backwards, mind-hobbling, faith rather than an ennobling, empowering, enlightening, one.

    It’s a retreat into fictionalism, NOT archetypes, metaphors, or analogies that serve as useful heuristics for navigating the real world (although it still has an aspect of that.)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-07 16:36:00 UTC

  • by Domagoj Vaci I suspect the evil behind Jehova (back then, the insignificant l

    by Domagoj Vaci

    I suspect the evil behind Jehova (back then, the insignificant local deity of insignificant Hebrews) is in fact the Persian devil Ahura Mazda.

    The entire naturalist pre-socratic philosophy came to be as an expression of a Ionian Greek resistance to this dualistic religionism of Persian imperial project.

    Alexander was a simple hick who was only good at breaking the military power of East while polluting the culture of Greek city-states under his yoke with eastern piety, petrifying Greek reason.

    Although, the “pre-Socratic” is a bit too wide definition. I should say Ionians, precisely Milesian school (Thales, Anaximander, Anaximenes) who invented philosophy to begin with and subjected their reasoning to crude empiricism.

    This development culminates with the Atomists Leucippus and Democritus who were also Ionian Greeks. Pythagoras was a mystic who took his cues from Egypt and Heraclitus was a dissatisfied Aristocrat who worshiped fire, just like Zoroastrian priesthood. I guess we can consider them odd ducks in this development.



    (Curt: I would say that alexander was not a simple hick, especially from his letters to Aristotle. But that yes, in search of ending the persian menace, he sought power not just rule, and yes he infected the west with the persian disease.)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-06 11:02:00 UTC

  • TO END ISLAM AND JUDAISM WE MUST END CHRISTIANITY Everything good in Christianit

    TO END ISLAM AND JUDAISM WE MUST END CHRISTIANITY

    Everything good in Christianity was there before Jesus was.

    The argument that the christians adopted the cult of the emperor and applied it to jesus is just as true as they adopted the cult of mithras and sol invictus.

    There is a big difference between the imperial cult, the cult of mithras, and the cult of sol invictus, and the cult of jesus. The others were martial and good, and the jesus cult was destructive as hell. Not as destructive as islam but nearly.

    There is no superior social technology than cult of the monarchy as embodiment of the people, cult of ancestors and heroes(masculine) and saints(feminine), cult of the militia, cult of the law as justice, cult of stoicism, cult of truth.

    Lies are not necessary. They are cheap. And they are effective. But their consequences are worse than their benefits.

    The old world lies of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, as well as the new world lies of Islamism, Postmodernism, and Marxism, must be extinguished. They are semitic, babylonian inventions. They are the evolution of the Persian heresy of Zoroastrianism, turned against the circumpolar peoples in order to undermine our ancient military, technical, and civic social orders by the seduction of our women, our weak, and our ignorant.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-06 10:57:00 UTC

  • (response to a ‘jesus message’) I am not a follower of Jehova, Abraham, and Saul

    (response to a ‘jesus message’)

    I am not a follower of Jehova, Abraham, and Saul, but of Alexander, Aristotle, and Zeno, and Hume, Darwin, and Locke . My god says that Jehova is the Devil, Abraham is his prophet, and Paul and Muhammed are his disciples.

    And the evidence tells me my god speaks the truth.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-05 21:26:00 UTC

  • God-> Universalism Gods-> Imperialism Ancestors-> Nationalism That’s The Answer

    God-> Universalism

    Gods-> Imperialism

    Ancestors-> Nationalism

    That’s The Answer.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-03 13:09:00 UTC

  • There are no gods. Jesus was a man. He had a simple message: stop fighting among

    There are no gods. Jesus was a man. He had a simple message: stop fighting amongst yourselves over trivial things and take care of each other. Instead of trigger happy intolerance of the pastoral and slave peoples who lacked property and ability, take the opposite approach which is the extension of kinship love to non kin. That’s all he says. That’s all that matters. And it’s *a purely scientific statement*.

    The ancient world had freed men from desperate dependence upon land, and allowed them to migrate to cultural capital and material capital so that their *human capital* could be put to use.

    However, this transition required that people abandon the trigger sensitivity of pastoralists living on the margins and instead, ENTER THE MARKET for simple labor, and cooperate with many others that had come from different backgrounds.

    So where the tower of babel presented the problem of language and the need for a common language, when craftsmen were pulled from around the new empire to create a new palace, the single, simple lesson of jesus was to provide a common *moral test* for people.

    This is a primitive attempt to achieve the same effect as natural law.

    The problem was not in this message. It was in EVERYTHING ELSE in christianity: which was weaponized to destroy the empire, and all of western civilization.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-03 12:52:00 UTC

  • CURT, WHY DO YOU ATTACK CHRISTIANITY? (OR ALL RELIGION) This is a great question

    CURT, WHY DO YOU ATTACK CHRISTIANITY? (OR ALL RELIGION)

    This is a great question but the answer is pretty simple.

    1) I want to know if it is possible to prohibit all forms of deception in public speech, so that my high trust people can continue to practice and improve their high trust civilization.

    2) There are multiple sources of ‘deception’ in history, but very few of those sources of deception are successful at political scale. The primary sources of deception can be identified by examples during the age of the invention of communication in the ancient world: (a) abrahamism(deception by bait and suggestion), (b) augustinian( accommodation / pragmatism), (c) platonism (ideal / utopianism); and their attempts at truth (d) education(stoicism/virtues) or propaganda(good/should), and (e) aristotelianism(description of what exists and works).

    3) In my work I rely on deflation: survival from competition; or what prior generations of philosophers called ‘analysis’, or what you would consider the scientific method: falsification. I attack every definition, every causal proposition, every value attribution, under the presumption that they are all false, biased, wishful thinking, or deceptions, until all I have left are possible (true) statements, that are categorically, logically, empirically, rationally consistent. So I have to break ideas down into their basic parts as ‘what do people want to acquire by saying this?’, and ‘what kinds of lies are they telling themselves and others to justify acquiring it?’ In other words, I attack everything completely until all loading, framing, obscurantism and suggestion, and bias, are eliminated.

    THE ANSWER?

    Because what prevented the completion of the enlightenment and our return to Aristotelianism, Roman Law, and Stoic Education, (or the escape from the lies of abrahamic deception , augustinian pragmatism, platonic idealism ), was our failure to demand total reformation of our church – abandoning Abrahamic deception, abandoning Augustinian accommodation. But preservation of the feminine: the individual service of others. In other words, abandoning everything other than the very, very, simple message of jesus: the extension of infinite love to one another. (Unfortunately, this message was universalist rather than nationalist. As suited the ancient empires. As suits the underclasses rebellion against the various aristocracies.)

    During the mid 20th century, the the American Protestant churches, and the catholic church under Vatican II abandoned defense of europe and doubled-down on the *individual* christ-as-servant strategy, and individual *evangelism*. And while this was the proper use of church teaching, the church retained it’s nonsense abrahamic and augustinian and platonist nonsense.

    So we might say that the churches failed to reform. Or we might say that they lacked knowledge of HOW to reform into secular hero worship of jesus and the saints who ACTED to serve others rather than *god*. As far as I know, The only persons in my lifetime I have can judge as having succeeded in achieving the christian ideals are Mother Theresa, and Pope John Paul. But if we remove the abrahamic spiritualists from the list of saints, and the political propagandists, and political activists, and instead, lionize the servants of the poor that remain then we have in fact, the remains of the christian church. All else is lies.

    So if you want to, and I want to, save western civilization, it is by eliminating the false gods, and lionizing the heroes that really existed. To do so requires at least four archetypes: Alexander and Leonidas(Martial), Aristotle and Zeno(Truth and Reason), The Templars and Explorers(Entrepreneurs and Financiers), and Jesus and (Theresa?) (love and caretakers). And the many thousands of other characters who existed.

    If you want to save your people it is not achieved by lies, but by the knowledge and use of the origins of western civilization: Truth and Reason, Heroism and Excellence, Law and judge and jury, and the markets in everything that result from those institutions.

    Truth is enough. And it is quite possible to extend the involuntary warranty of due diligence against fraud from product(property), and service(action), to information (public speech.)

    *Categorical, logical, empirical, operational, rational, reciprocal consistency with defined limits and full a full accounting of internal scope and external consequences.*

    It is trivial to put this into law.

    And the market for non-parasitism via the courts will end by self interest that which we cannot achieve through demand for virtue against self interest.

    And within a generation the west will be restored.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev Ukraine.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-03 08:56:00 UTC

  • God -> Universalism. Ancestor Worship -> Nationalism. That’s Your Answer

    God -> Universalism.

    Ancestor Worship -> Nationalism.

    That’s Your Answer.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-08-03 06:19:00 UTC