Gods need no gods.
Source date (UTC): 2019-01-14 17:32:27 UTC
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Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology
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Gods need no gods
Gods need no gods.
Source date (UTC): 2019-01-14 12:32:00 UTC
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photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/49948394_10156916627572264_5888674864629284864_n_10156916627567264.jpg Steve PenderAppeal to truth seekers to empower priests who pose as intermediates for the source of truth.Jan 14, 2019, 12:07 PMCurt DoolittleTruth or utility?Jan 14, 2019, 12:13 PMSteven JacksonReligion offers truth in the same way snake oil salesmen offers a cure.
The customer is still looking for a cure but the snake oil salesman doesn’t deliver the cure but a hope of one.
I stand by thisJan 14, 2019, 12:47 PMCurt DoolittletrueJan 14, 2019, 12:47 PMCurt Doolittleheroin dealer offers heroin.Jan 14, 2019, 12:47 PMLisa OuthwaiteSome pretty broad strokes being applied here. I’m assuming you don’t mean that there are no universal truths embedded within religion?Jan 14, 2019, 1:15 PMLisa OuthwaiteWho doesn’t love a double negative? 🤪Jan 14, 2019, 1:16 PMSteven JacksonCurt Doolittle rat experiments show that drug addiction correlates with social ostracism.
The hormones stimulated by social acceptance can also be stimulated through the use of narcotics.
Marx was literally correct when he described religion as being the opiate of the masses.
The difference between the drug peddler and the priest is that the unifying narrative of religion can be put to use to build trust and social cohesion. The priest builds social capital by writing a common hymn book so everyone sings the same song.
The drug dealer creates a demand for drugs and nothing else. He preys on low trust societies with low social cohesion and makes it worse, he is a parasite because he drains the society of social capital.
Religion falls apart when it’s lies are exposed, but many are willing to overlook the lies because of the benefit provided by living among those singing off the same sheet.Jan 14, 2019, 1:17 PMNick HeywoodNo! It ain’t!
Religion is observed, but un-scientifically explained, framework of behavioral decidability.
And usually reduces to group evolutionary reciprocity strategy.
“If you want to be a member of this group”?… “you’ll behave thus” “and decide crap according to these rules”!
“We know these principles, that govern limits, of behaviour and decisions work”! “We’ve seen ‘them’ work” “and our ancestors were successful because they adhered to them”.
Another question becomes… “what’s the goal, aim, proposed outcome”? That’s a different question, though. 🙂
Nothing at all wrong with religion. It’s natural!
As long as ya don’t wanna colonise the universe or f around with capital development, resource distribution, engineering, biology, chemistry, maths, physics’n’quantum shit etc.😁
Once you’ve developed that capability?
Religion’s no good to ya! You’ll just hurt ya’self and melt shit. 🙂Jan 14, 2019, 1:44 PMNick HeywoodUtility for the hierarchy! 🙂😉😎Jan 14, 2019, 2:00 PMSteven JacksonNick Heywood religion has always been a factor in every advanced society. The industrial revolution occurred under puritanical Protestantism and Presbyterianism. The medieval Christian monks preserved literature and science (albeit after destroying it in the early years of Christianity.) The Greek philosophers flourished under their pagan ancestor worship etc etc.
When we have dispensed with religion (a unifying narrative) we have ended up with relativism and pseudoscience. The USSR is a prime example of this, the communist narrative was destructive and couldn’t capture a second generation. The initial cohesion, gained through genocide, produced the space race and Kalashnikov. A generation later it produced only civil war, Mafia and rusting public utilities.
Similar forces destroyed the narrative in the west and we have trannys and feminism.
Religion as a means of social cohesion seems to be necessary, as knowledge has progressed, religion has evolved. We just need to evolve it to agree with what we now understand to be true. The modernists threw the baby out with the bath water when they misunderstood “God is dead”Jan 14, 2019, 2:27 PMSteven J. WoronLike the new profile pic btw…Jan 14, 2019, 3:02 PMNick HeywoodThe unifying narrative became a tyranny in and of itself. Which really f’d things up.Jan 14, 2019, 6:10 PMDylan KnowlesModern religion is not worshipping a faith, it is the worship of mammon. Reject the modern world, reject degeneracy.Jan 14, 2019, 9:27 PM
Source date (UTC): 2019-01-14 11:52:00 UTC
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Source date (UTC): 2019-01-14 09:36:00 UTC
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I had to do the catholic school thing. Saturday morning catechism. All that stuf
I had to do the catholic school thing. Saturday morning catechism. All that stuff.
The problem was i read encyclopedias. That’s wisdom. There is very little wisdom that cannot be found by reading the Encyclopedia Britannica and the OED. 😉
Source date (UTC): 2019-01-12 18:00:41 UTC
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@curtdoolittle My first glimpse of wisdom was from my catechism Bible, I remember reading Proverbs and talking notes, rewriting them for a 10 year in the 80’s.
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THE BIOLOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR RELIGIOSITY? NOPE. by Bill Joslin The biological arg
THE BIOLOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR RELIGIOSITY? NOPE.
by Bill Joslin
The biological argument for religiosity I find is flawed. Aaron Hill presented this to me a week or two ago. The mutual exclusion of reason and commitment which is often presented as the result of selection pressures due to religion.
I’d offer an alternative hypothesis. we’ve evolved to err on the side of false positives and projected intention because this affords better risk management in regards to predation pressure. Whereas reason/investigation to ferret out a false positive would increase risk of predation.
example to illuminate what I mean. An ape in the savanah hears a rustling in the grass beside them. Assuming the rustling is a predator (projected intention) opposed to the wind and fleeing would offer, on the aggregate, a better chance of surviving than investigating to verify the initial assumption wasn’t a false positive.
This provides a selection pressure toward “faith” over reason and why reason does not come easily to us. (in other words the biology behind faith is not due to religion but rather predation pressure)
Now, to take the biological responses we’ve inherited toward projected intention and false positives as justification for religiousity et al is to jump the is-ought gap. Just because we have these predilections (the “is”) doesn’t mean we “ought” to embrace them.
The evidence is in – the incremental extrapolation of social and formal functions away from the church, religiosity and intuition allowed humans to break out of the Malthusian trap, move out from under discretionary rule and begin cultivating markets for agency across scale (individual – organizational, middle class).
In short, the placebo effect and predilection for faith doesn’t warrant embracing obfuscation of causal relations when human progress has resulted from disambiguation across multiple domains.
Source date (UTC): 2019-01-12 13:07:00 UTC
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“…Yet if cattle or horses or lions had hands and could draw, And could sculpt
—-“…Yet if cattle or horses or lions had hands and could draw, And could sculpt like men, then the horses would draw their gods, Like horses, and cattle like cattle; and each they would shape. Bodies of gods in the likeness, each kind, of their own.” — Xenophanes
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Source date (UTC): 2019-01-12 00:52:00 UTC
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People lacking knowledge, power, achievement, and capital like the priests of th
People lacking knowledge, power, achievement, and capital like the priests of the middle east attempting to destroy the empire with christianity judaism and islam. Lies are a competitive strategy. The entire abrahamic artifice is based upon the competitive utility of lying.
Source date (UTC): 2019-01-11 22:41:31 UTC
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@MatthausAnsatz @Imperius__13 @DataDistribute @torinmccabe @JohnMarkSays @MahmoudZaini @TrueDilTom @Dick71224996 All I see is a series of publications using hand waving as an attempt to provide a pseudoscientific defense of Derrida, in that ‘well’ everything evolved from language therefore we can evolve anything with language. In other words, postmodernism.
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@MatthausAnsatz @Imperius__13 @DataDistribute @torinmccabe @JohnMarkSays @MahmoudZaini @TrueDilTom @Dick71224996 All I see is a series of publications using hand waving as an attempt to provide a pseudoscientific defense of Derrida, in that ‘well’ everything evolved from language therefore we can evolve anything with language. In other words, postmodernism.
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10) with the right legal, constitutional, and economic incentives, a church can
10) with the right legal, constitutional, and economic incentives, a church can be restored that will evolve away from current addictions and to future health out of institutional self interest, and return to its position as a competitor to the state and the market.
Source date (UTC): 2019-01-10 00:35:12 UTC
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8) I can go on for quite a while, but in the end result, a church (institution)
8) I can go on for quite a while, but in the end result, a church (institution) and religion (means of providing mindfulness under a spectrum of conditions) and a restoration of this ‘education’ as a central competitor to markets and governments is an advantage.
Source date (UTC): 2019-01-10 00:29:30 UTC
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