Category: Evolutionary Computation and Systems

  • You can’t. Any equilibrium requires all three parties

    You can’t. Any equilibrium requires all three parties.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-14 15:25:19 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1250082715673731072

    Reply addressees: @jim_rutt

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  • THE G-MUST-RISE AXIS (AND ITS ERROR) by Giego Caleiro So the problem I see in Sl

    THE G-MUST-RISE AXIS (AND ITS ERROR)

    by Giego Caleiro

    So the problem I see in Sloan Wilson and Schmatenberger mostly concerns missing The G Must Rise axis of the discussion. If indeed we are experiencing cognitive decline masked by the Flynn effect and genetic engineering will continue to be prohibitively costly as a large fraction of how new minds are created, and we don’t make an AGI deus ex machina, THEN we must keep the basal genetic and hereditary structure generators that provide us intelligence and safe tech design above some water level. There needs to be at least X people above Y Intelligence for the continual prevention of X-risk and catastrophic risks.

    The G Must Rise people seem to strongly mired into politics, and sometimes I suppose that prevents their memes from becoming widespread among people who want to save the world, EAs etc… the focus on differential reproduction, and keeping intelligence afloat is insufficient if we don’t also consider the risks and damages of loss of autonomy and individual intelligence and offloading that intelligence to higher levels, hive minds etc… Forming superorganisms has trade offs, and isn’t a panacea, as the G must rise people sometimes seem to advocate.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-04 14:59:00 UTC

  • THREE CUTTING EDGE THINKING CLUSTERS by Giego Caleiro There are three cutting ed

    THREE CUTTING EDGE THINKING CLUSTERS

    by Giego Caleiro

    There are three cutting edge thinking clusters I believe we should unite

    1) The Incentive Tensors:

    Bostrom, Daniel Schmachtenberger (closer to the blade), David Sloan Wilson, Brett Weinstein, Joon Yun, Thiel, Eric Weinstein (trailing).

    Trying to find the basins and attractors that might stabilize future evolution (cultural, technological and memetic) away from Moloch (bad incentive structures), Azhathoth (evolutionary constraints).

    Related keywords: X-risks, Catastrophic Risks, incentive alignment, basins of attraction, exponential tech, differential progress, Singleton, transhumanism, multipolar equelibriae.

    2) The G Must Rise Clan:

    Michael Anthony Woodley of Menia, @Edward Dutton, Curt Doolittlele, Emil O. W. Kirkegaard, Alexander Kruel, etc…

    They caught up with the research on correlations between intelligence and genes to the point where they can use the genome of ancient populations to calculate their G, and the mechanisms that produce intelligence in populations, and see we are falling 1 point per decade and want to make G rise.

    Keywords: Social Epistasis Models, Intelligence decline, Woodley Effect, Anti-Flynn effect, Differential reproduction.

    3) The Individual x Group Differentiators:

    Ellen Clarke, Sloan David Sloan Wilson again, Price equation, Coase’s theory of the firm, Stuart Armstrong Anthropic Decision Theory, Eros Szathmary, Deacon, Tononi

    They try in different disciplines, from economics, to corporations, to biological organisms to artificial agents differentiatiate what is an individual versus what is a group. When do many individuals become a group through loss of autonomy and degeneration for instance, or to what extent is functional identity or similarity sufficient for something to be one versus a member of a group, or a copy etc….

    Keywords: Major Evolutionary Transition, Type 1 Type 2 object (in Clarke’s), Autonomy loss, degeneration, differentiation, autopoiesis, autocatalysis, synergy, merger.

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    The reason I think these people should try to think together and understand each other’s fields is basically that we lack the appropriate tools to steer the future if any foot of this triad is ignored.

    We can only design the right incentive structures and alignment by recognizing the on the ground reality of reproduction, the fall in G in the last century and a half, and the expected continuation of this process in the current biogeographical and mating dynamics – both due to the dynamics themselves but also due to the astronomical and thus prohibitive cost of transition to a system where selection bypasses sex, sexual selection etc… e.g. genetic engineering is a dead end.

    Incentive structures and tensoring them on directions also requires understanding to what extent an agent is one or many, and how hard it will protect or help (Steve Omohundro comes to mind) its own survival and reproduction and what it considers part of itself or a larger group or different entity.

    Uniting these three paradigms was, and is, the bulk of my PhD thesis but seeing the stellar conversation between Schmachtenberger and Eric made me realize we’re probably closer to a point where that debate is legible to a wider audience than 5 years ago when I began writing.

    So I’d urge people who understand one of foot of the triad well to teach their foot to those in the other two, and everyone to try to learn the ones they are less familiar with.

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    In comments I’ll try to outlay examples of the problems of not grasping one foot in those working on a different one.Updated Apr 4, 2020, 2:47 PM


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-04 14:47:00 UTC

  • “I love KOTH games, really”— Ryan Drumond It’s the most fun way to learn, espe

    —“I love KOTH games, really”— Ryan Drumond

    It’s the most fun way to learn, especially if you re-run the game differently over and over again. That way you can make it up the hill a little bit each time until you can reach the top.

    it eliminates the time pressure and allows you to learn at your own rate. and to do so competitively. And where there is no cost of failure.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-25 11:30:00 UTC

  • You keep imagining what ideally could, and I work on engineering what CAN. What

    You keep imagining what ideally could, and I work on engineering what CAN. What can survive competition over years, decades centuries.

    That’s why.

    Engineering means process, procedure, rules, institutions, means of measurement.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-01-15 21:47:09 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1217563901405138945

  • Yes. It’s hubris extending a curve rather than equilibration. We have been diseq

    Yes. It’s hubris extending a curve rather than equilibration. We have been disequilibrating technologically, economically, socially, and as always, most slowly, politically. This is why contrarians profit. Hubris. (Flocking,s schooling)


    Source date (UTC): 2019-12-24 22:04:37 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1209595762570649600

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  • All systems require negotiating a protocol to increase throughput Nothing wrong

    All systems require negotiating a protocol to increase throughput Nothing wrong with the system. You assumed your handshake was more unambiguous that it was. That’s what protocols and languages consist of: grammars of disambiguation. 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2019-12-24 22:02:38 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1209595262697689088

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    @ivanlawhg You’re beautiful. 😉
    Color me enthused.

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    @ivanlawhg You’re beautiful. 😉
    Color me enthused.

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  • As in Selection Intent is irrelevant Outcome Decides — Julian le Roux

    As in Selection
    Intent is irrelevant
    Outcome Decides
    — Julian le Roux


    Source date (UTC): 2019-12-17 17:55:00 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1206996227704930304

  • Evolution by natural selection. Kind of a dumb question right? What’s the differ

    Evolution by natural selection. Kind of a dumb question right? What’s the difference between natural selection whether it’s animals that can’t think or us that can? Nothing.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-12-04 19:02:07 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1202302075297763332

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  • P-LOGIC 1) Everyone acts to acquire. Life is an expensive means of defeating ent

    P-LOGIC
    1) Everyone acts to acquire. Life is an expensive means of defeating entropy. Acting improves acquisition – at additional cost. Memory improves acquisition – at additional cost…. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=511270382803190&id=100017606988153


    Source date (UTC): 2019-11-20 20:42:03 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1197253797031993344