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  • FACEBOOK IS AUDITING LINKS TO NATIONAL REVIEW

    FACEBOOK IS AUDITING LINKS TO NATIONAL REVIEW


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-10 12:59:03 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1050007806496137216

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    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/43828266_10156696935217264_6846711884582748160_o_10156696935212264.jpg THE TRUTH IS NOT COMPLICATEDDuje DanteL2 master race reporting inOct 10, 2018, 10:35 AMCarl Vandal EdgebroBlue Man Group reportingOct 10, 2018, 10:37 AMCurt DoolittleL2 or I2?Oct 10, 2018, 10:37 AMRoymond Napalm IIGood, I don’t wanna hear shit about “spaghettini🅱️🅱️as” again. 😂Oct 10, 2018, 10:41 AMSean RingGod, I’ve got J-M241. WTF?Oct 10, 2018, 10:41 AMCroib MagaOrangeboiOct 10, 2018, 10:42 AMԴավիդ ՎելլաMine’s a red countryOct 10, 2018, 10:45 AMDuje DanteBig thumbs meant I2Oct 10, 2018, 10:45 AMDoğan Can AktanTruth about ethnic Turks.Oct 10, 2018, 11:07 AMChristian WarwickHang on I’m a Red??? Sling ya hooks you slaggs!!Oct 10, 2018, 11:11 AMLan KenR1bOct 10, 2018, 11:20 AMCurt DoolittleSLAVERYOct 10, 2018, 11:24 AMKareem HajrassiJ1Oct 10, 2018, 11:28 AMColin Higginsthe Y haplogroup doesn’t tell us very much (more research is needed). There will be lots of inconsistencies.

    It’s not R1, it is R-L. For instance, I am in the R-L21 Y haplogroup.

    The maternal haplogroup tells you a lot more. Mine is U4a2c , which is very rare in Europe, and is found primarily among the Mari and Chuvash people in south-central Russia. It is also found in Finno-Urgic people.

    Somehow, my ancestors made it from those regions to Sweden and Ireland, but only 100 years ago or so.Oct 10, 2018, 11:28 AMCurt DoolittleSome ancestor just decided the servant girl was a better piece than the wife, and you carry her memory? Dunno you sure seem like kin to me….. if not, then I’m your brother anyway. ;)Oct 10, 2018, 11:30 AMMaxim V FilimonovThat tiny piece of R1b between the Black and the Caspian seas is Armenia.Oct 10, 2018, 11:59 AMMaxim V FilimonovR1a, of course. What else could I be given my ancestors mostly come from Yaroslavl and Smolensk regions of Russia?Oct 10, 2018, 12:02 PMCurt DoolittleWe can’t all be perfect. lol -hugsOct 10, 2018, 12:04 PMMaxim V FilimonovI could have some Finno-Ugric ancestry, though, given the current region of residence. But the phenotype says otherwise.Oct 10, 2018, 12:04 PMAndy UjkuPerhaps a more accurate map.Oct 10, 2018, 12:46 PMPhilip ChristopherThere is too much information on this map to be useful to a non-autist.Oct 10, 2018, 1:12 PMRoymond Napalm IIThatsa more like itaOct 10, 2018, 1:23 PMMarcel EuteneuerI think it’s usefulOct 10, 2018, 1:24 PMCurt Doolittlemy point is that dominant haplogroups delineate civilizational differences.Oct 10, 2018, 1:25 PMCurt Doolittleas Simon Strom has said, the regions are significantly less heterogeneious than in antiquity. This sounds nice but what it means is that homogeniety produces dysgenia.Oct 10, 2018, 1:34 PMKhairunnisa SimmondsFascinating – Armenia is an enclave all on its own.Oct 10, 2018, 1:38 PMAlex Macleod”homogeniety produces dysgenia” What? Isn’t that contrary to your essential position? Or what does it mean?Oct 10, 2018, 1:40 PMCurt DoolittleIt means empires are bad. I can see how it’s confusing.

    Homogeniety is a good when there are many homogenous countries. creating a monopoly is a bad if there is one homogenous empire.Oct 10, 2018, 1:43 PMCurt DoolittleThe reason being that empires devolve to the lower classOct 10, 2018, 1:43 PMKhairunnisa SimmondsI see I’ve duplicated your comment. I wonder why Armenia is different to its neighbours.Oct 10, 2018, 1:43 PMNicholas RoyL1a rise upOct 10, 2018, 1:44 PMMaxim V FilimonovKhairunnisa Simmonds Idk. All I know they’ve been there for quite a long time: Yerevan is roughly the same age as Rome.Oct 10, 2018, 1:54 PMJC TrottN people are a myth.Oct 10, 2018, 3:14 PMPatryk TusinskiR1a boyz representOct 10, 2018, 3:31 PMAndrew ClaytonAbsolute equality is a malicious lie.

    Hands up R-U152.Oct 10, 2018, 4:15 PMGarioch MacYoostinR1B reigns supreme over all the other groid groupsOct 10, 2018, 5:06 PMSteven Logan Everett-FainI-Z58 masterrace.Oct 10, 2018, 5:09 PMSean Ring😂😂😂. Great lesson for keeping it in one’s pants, brother!Oct 10, 2018, 8:09 PMMaksim SharpeLol us r1a niggas got aryan.

    Ukrainian here and half of us are aryan af. Ice blonde hair blue hair but a more slavic style skin oppose to snow nigga skin.Oct 11, 2018, 2:58 AMAndrei VamenscuI know nothing of this. InterestingOct 11, 2018, 6:11 AMGuillermo A. MartínezR1B hereOct 11, 2018, 6:35 AMJames BoweryAs I1 is the oldest of Euroman Haplogroups, it is no surprise that it is geographically least accessible to civilization. Definitely paleolithic in origin. It would be interesting to see the map just prior to the Indoeuropean expansion.Oct 11, 2018, 8:18 PMJames Boweryhttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/73/df/2c73df040422cd2c77e4e103fd0fa456.pngOct 11, 2018, 8:29 PMTHE TRUTH IS NOT COMPLICATED


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-10 10:30:00 UTC

  • photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/43828266_10156696935217264_684671188

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    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/43828266_10156696935217264_6846711884582748160_o_10156696935212264.jpg THE TRUTH IS NOT COMPLICATEDDuje DanteL2 master race reporting inOct 10, 2018, 10:35 AMCarl Vandal EdgebroBlue Man Group reportingOct 10, 2018, 10:37 AMCurt DoolittleL2 or I2?Oct 10, 2018, 10:37 AMRoymond Napalm IIGood, I don’t wanna hear shit about “spaghettini🅱️🅱️as” again. 😂Oct 10, 2018, 10:41 AMSean RingGod, I’ve got J-M241. WTF?Oct 10, 2018, 10:41 AMCroib MagaOrangeboiOct 10, 2018, 10:42 AMDuje DanteBig thumbs meant I2Oct 10, 2018, 10:45 AMDoğan Can AktanTruth about ethnic Turks.Oct 10, 2018, 11:07 AMChristian WarwickHang on I’m a Red??? Sling ya hooks you slaggs!!Oct 10, 2018, 11:11 AMLance KennedyR1bOct 10, 2018, 11:20 AMCurt DoolittleSLAVERYOct 10, 2018, 11:24 AMKareem HajrassiJ1Oct 10, 2018, 11:28 AMColin Higginsthe Y haplogroup doesn’t tell us very much (more research is needed). There will be lots of inconsistencies.

    It’s not R1, it is R-L. For instance, I am in the R-L21 Y haplogroup.

    The maternal haplogroup tells you a lot more. Mine is U4a2c , which is very rare in Europe, and is found primarily among the Mari and Chuvash people in south-central Russia. It is also found in Finno-Urgic people.

    Somehow, my ancestors made it from those regions to Sweden and Ireland, but only 100 years ago or so.Oct 10, 2018, 11:28 AMCurt DoolittleSome ancestor just decided the servant girl was a better piece than the wife, and you carry her memory? Dunno you sure seem like kin to me….. if not, then I’m your brother anyway. ;)Oct 10, 2018, 11:30 AMMaxim V FilimonovThat tiny piece of R1b between the Black and the Caspian seas is Armenia.Oct 10, 2018, 11:59 AMMaxim V FilimonovR1a, of course. What else could I be given my ancestors mostly come from Yaroslavl and Smolensk regions of Russia?Oct 10, 2018, 12:02 PMCurt DoolittleWe can’t all be perfect. lol -hugsOct 10, 2018, 12:04 PMMaxim V FilimonovI could have some Finno-Ugric ancestry, though, given the current region of residence. But the phenotype says otherwise.Oct 10, 2018, 12:04 PMDenizcan DedeCurt Doolittle many of those haplogroups are very diverse and have different subgroups. Like J1 has Caucasian subclades which are authentic to Dagestan and has nothing to do with Arab one, J2 has Mediterranean, Balkan, Turkic, Caucasian and Semitic subclades. Same goes to R1a(z93 is steppic and common among Kyrgyz people but z283 is mainly Slavic etc.), R1b, G etc.

    I is known as European for example but my subclade of I2c is common among Caspian shores, Dagestan/North Caucasus and Transcaucasus. I assure you, more than half of haplos here are directly connected to Central Asia.

    (N1b and N1c in Turks are directly Turkic)Oct 10, 2018, 12:40 PMAndy UjkuPerhaps a more accurate map.Oct 10, 2018, 12:46 PMPhilip ChristopherThere is too much information on this map to be useful to a non-autist.Oct 10, 2018, 1:12 PMRoymond Napalm IIThatsa more like itaOct 10, 2018, 1:23 PMMarcel EuteneuerI think it’s usefulOct 10, 2018, 1:24 PMCurt Doolittlemy point is that dominant haplogroups delineate civilizational differences.Oct 10, 2018, 1:25 PMDenizcan DedeTrue. Both Oghuz speaking Turkey and Azerbaijan are also J2. Their subclades are also both Caucasian and Central Asian variations.Oct 10, 2018, 1:30 PMCurt Doolittleas Simon Strom has said, the regions are significantly less heterogeneious than in antiquity. This sounds nice but what it means is that homogeniety produces dysgenia.Oct 10, 2018, 1:34 PMKhairunnisa SimmondsFascinating – Armenia is an enclave all on its own.Oct 10, 2018, 1:38 PMAlex Macleod”homogeniety produces dysgenia” What? Isn’t that contrary to your essential position? Or what does it mean?Oct 10, 2018, 1:40 PMCurt DoolittleIt means empires are bad. I can see how it’s confusing.

    Homogeniety is a good when there are many homogenous countries. creating a monopoly is a bad if there is one homogenous empire.Oct 10, 2018, 1:43 PMCurt DoolittleThe reason being that empires devolve to the lower classOct 10, 2018, 1:43 PMKhairunnisa SimmondsI see I’ve duplicated your comment. I wonder why Armenia is different to its neighbours.Oct 10, 2018, 1:43 PMNicholas RoyL1a rise upOct 10, 2018, 1:44 PMMaxim V FilimonovKhairunnisa Simmonds Idk. All I know they’ve been there for quite a long time: Yerevan is roughly the same age as Rome.Oct 10, 2018, 1:54 PMJC TrottN people are a myth.Oct 10, 2018, 3:14 PMPatryk TusinskiR1a boyz representOct 10, 2018, 3:31 PMAndrew ClaytonAbsolute equality is a malicious lie.

    Hands up R-U152.Oct 10, 2018, 4:15 PMGarioch MacYoostinR1B reigns supreme over all the other groid groupsOct 10, 2018, 5:06 PMSteven Logan Everett-FainI-Z58 masterrace.Oct 10, 2018, 5:09 PMSean Ring😂😂😂. Great lesson for keeping it in one’s pants, brother!Oct 10, 2018, 8:09 PMKarl SchmidtWhat happened to Armenia?Oct 10, 2018, 9:13 PMMaksim SharpeLol us r1a niggas got aryan.

    Ukrainian here and half of us are aryan af. Ice blonde hair blue hair but a more slavic style skin oppose to snow nigga skin.Oct 11, 2018, 2:58 AMAndrei VamenscuI know nothing of this. InterestingOct 11, 2018, 6:11 AMGuillermo A. MartínezR1B hereOct 11, 2018, 6:35 AMJames BoweryAs I1 is the oldest of Euroman Haplogroups, it is no surprise that it is geographically least accessible to civilization. Definitely paleolithic in origin. It would be interesting to see the map just prior to the Indoeuropean expansion.Oct 11, 2018, 8:18 PMJames Boweryhttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/73/df/2c73df040422cd2c77e4e103fd0fa456.pngOct 11, 2018, 8:29 PMTHE TRUTH IS NOT COMPLICATED


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-10 10:30:00 UTC

  • photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/43828266_10156696935217264_68467118

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    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/43828266_10156696935217264_6846711884582748160_o_10156696935212264.jpg THE TRUTH IS NOT COMPLICATEDDuje DanteL2 master race reporting inOct 10, 2018 10:35amCarl Vandal EdgebroBlue Man Group reportingOct 10, 2018 10:37amCurt DoolittleL2 or I2?Oct 10, 2018 10:37amRoymond Napalm IIGood, I don’t wanna hear shit about “spaghettini🅱️🅱️as” again. 😂Oct 10, 2018 10:41amSean RingGod, I’ve got J-M241. WTF?Oct 10, 2018 10:41amCroib MagaOrangeboiOct 10, 2018 10:42amDawid WellaMine’s a red countryOct 10, 2018 10:45amDuje DanteBig thumbs meant I2Oct 10, 2018 10:45amDoğan Can AktanTruth about ethnic Turks.Oct 10, 2018 11:07amChristian WarwickHang on I’m a Red??? Sling ya hooks you slaggs!!Oct 10, 2018 11:11amLance KennedyR1bOct 10, 2018 11:20amCurt DoolittleSLAVERYOct 10, 2018 11:24amKareem HajrassiJ1Oct 10, 2018 11:28amColin Higginsthe Y haplogroup doesn’t tell us very much (more research is needed). There will be lots of inconsistencies.

    It’s not R1, it is R-L. For instance, I am in the R-L21 Y haplogroup.

    The maternal haplogroup tells you a lot more. Mine is U4a2c , which is very rare in Europe, and is found primarily among the Mari and Chuvash people in south-central Russia. It is also found in Finno-Urgic people.

    Somehow, my ancestors made it from those regions to Sweden and Ireland, but only 100 years ago or so.Oct 10, 2018 11:28amCurt DoolittleSome ancestor just decided the servant girl was a better piece than the wife, and you carry her memory? Dunno you sure seem like kin to me….. if not, then I’m your brother anyway. ;)Oct 10, 2018 11:30amMaxim V FilimonovThat tiny piece of R1b between the Black and the Caspian seas is Armenia.Oct 10, 2018 11:59amMaxim V FilimonovR1a, of course. What else could I be given my ancestors mostly come from Yaroslavl and Smolensk regions of Russia?Oct 10, 2018 12:02pmCurt DoolittleWe can’t all be perfect. lol -hugsOct 10, 2018 12:04pmMaxim V FilimonovI could have some Finno-Ugric ancestry, though, given the current region of residence. But the phenotype says otherwise.Oct 10, 2018 12:04pmDenizcan Dede@[741197263:2048:Curt Doolittle] many of those haplogroups are very diverse and have different subgroups. Like J1 has Caucasian subclades which are authentic to Dagestan and has nothing to do with Arab one, J2 has Mediterranean, Balkan, Turkic, Caucasian and Semitic subclades. Same goes to R1a(z93 is steppic and common among Kyrgyz people but z283 is mainly Slavic etc.), R1b, G etc.

    I is known as European for example but my subclade of I2c is common among Caspian shores, Dagestan/North Caucasus and Transcaucasus. I assure you, more than half of haplos here are directly connected to Central Asia.

    (N1b and N1c in Turks are directly Turkic)Oct 10, 2018 12:40pmAndy UjkuPerhaps a more accurate map.Oct 10, 2018 12:46pmEthan EthanPasta American, instead?Oct 10, 2018 12:53pmPhilip ChristopherThere is too much information on this map to be useful to a non-autist.Oct 10, 2018 1:12pmRoymond Napalm IIThatsa more like itaOct 10, 2018 1:23pmMarcel EuteneuerI think it’s usefulOct 10, 2018 1:24pmCurt Doolittlemy point is that dominant haplogroups delineate civilizational differences.Oct 10, 2018 1:25pmDenizcan DedeTrue. Both Oghuz speaking Turkey and Azerbaijan are also J2. Their subclades are also both Caucasian and Central Asian variations.Oct 10, 2018 1:30pmCurt Doolittleas Simon Strom has said, the regions are significantly less heterogeneious than in antiquity. This sounds nice but what it means is that homogeniety produces dysgenia.Oct 10, 2018 1:34pmKhairunnisa SimmondsFascinating – Armenia is an enclave all on its own.Oct 10, 2018 1:38pmAlex Macleod”homogeniety produces dysgenia” What? Isn’t that contrary to your essential position? Or what does it mean?Oct 10, 2018 1:40pmCurt DoolittleIt means empires are bad. I can see how it’s confusing.

    Homogeniety is a good when there are many homogenous countries. creating a monopoly is a bad if there is one homogenous empire.Oct 10, 2018 1:43pmCurt DoolittleThe reason being that empires devolve to the lower classOct 10, 2018 1:43pmKhairunnisa SimmondsI see I’ve duplicated your comment. I wonder why Armenia is different to its neighbours.Oct 10, 2018 1:43pmNicholas RoyL1a rise upOct 10, 2018 1:44pmMaxim V Filimonov@[1007387573:2048:Khairunnisa Simmonds] Idk. All I know they’ve been there for quite a long time: Yerevan is roughly the same age as Rome.Oct 10, 2018 1:54pmJC TrottN people are a myth.Oct 10, 2018 3:14pmPatryk TusinskiR1a boyz representOct 10, 2018 3:31pmAndrew ClaytonAbsolute equality is a malicious lie.

    Hands up R-U152.Oct 10, 2018 4:15pmGarioch MacYoostinR1B reigns supreme over all the other groid groupsOct 10, 2018 5:06pmSteven Logan Everett-FainI-Z58 masterrace.Oct 10, 2018 5:09pmSean Ring😂😂😂. Great lesson for keeping it in one’s pants, brother!Oct 10, 2018 8:09pmKarl SchmidtWhat happened to Armenia?Oct 10, 2018 9:13pmFranklin SandersFinland.. the N’s of europeOct 11, 2018 1:57amMaksim SharpeLol us r1a niggas got aryan.

    Ukrainian here and half of us are aryan af. Ice blonde hair blue hair but a more slavic style skin oppose to snow nigga skin.Oct 11, 2018 2:58amAndrei VamenscuI know nothing of this. InterestingOct 11, 2018 6:11amGuillermo A. MartínezR1B hereOct 11, 2018 6:35amJames BoweryAs I1 is the oldest of Euroman Haplogroups, it is no surprise that it is geographically least accessible to civilization. Definitely paleolithic in origin. It would be interesting to see the map just prior to the Indoeuropean expansion.Oct 11, 2018 8:18pmJames Boweryhttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/73/df/2c73df040422cd2c77e4e103fd0fa456.pngOct 11, 2018 8:29pmTHE TRUTH IS NOT COMPLICATED


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  • It was not. It was directed at someone else you know however. 😉

    It was not. It was directed at someone else you know however. 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-09 19:31:57 UTC

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    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/43557764_10156694925527264_1240374980147937280_n_10156694925522264.jpg photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/43271795_10156694925987264_3342498061195673600_o_10156694925982264.jpg Trevor WilsonHorses tamed by steppe peoples. First chariots.Oct 9, 2018, 7:31 PMCurt DoolittleSimon Ström isn’t this the most helpful origin of the ‘races’. I mean, this makes far more sense of the data than the three major races.Oct 9, 2018, 7:53 PMCurt DoolittleSemites, turks, IE’s mongols, europeans. I mean, have we not been looking far enough backward to grasp the origin of our races?Oct 9, 2018, 7:54 PMJohn ScholeyThere were no Turks in the ice-age.Oct 10, 2018, 9:01 AMCurt DoolittleDoes it say that?Oct 10, 2018, 9:03 AMJohn ScholeyYesOct 10, 2018, 9:03 AMCurt DoolittleNO. It says PROTO turks.Oct 10, 2018, 9:04 AMSteven JacksonCurt Doolittle which of these are the Semites?Oct 10, 2018, 9:53 AMSimon StrömCurt Doolittle

    Hypothetical (absolutely off and contrary to archaeological and genetic evidence in the case of PIE) urheimat locations of (vastly differently aged) language families, plotted on top of the extent of glaciers sometime during the Upper Paleolithic, as well as a timeline of extinct hominid species/UP cultures?

    This map is very random, incoherent and amateurish to me, and potentially very wrong since it is not clear at all what it does or does not imply with all those variables in the same image. It’s an F, sorry.Oct 10, 2018, 11:26 AMCurt Doolittlethank you. I’m gonna give the author a break, and assume that he is using PIE rather than west asian, where he should be using west asian.

    Were the ehg’s turkics and mongols and west asians in those locations 15k ybp?Oct 10, 2018, 11:34 AMCurt Doolittle(I love that I have access to you.)Oct 10, 2018, 11:34 AMSimon Ström15 kya the world was a very different place compared to what followed, with the Neolithic revolution commencing at ~12 kya. None of the above were “in those places” at 15 kya.

    Eastern European h-gs (EHG) is a recently coined term in genetic literature referring to a seemingly discrete Mesolithic population emerging in NE Europe around 6-7000 BC along a cline of Mesolithic/Late Paleolithic Western European h-gs (WHG) and Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) admixture. EHGs almost ubiquitously belonged to, and were the first carriers of, R1a and R1b paternal haplogroups in Europe, a marker inherited from mammoth-chasing ANE males penetrating from Siberia. Representatives of the EHG “macro-ethnicity” almost certainly spoke a primitive form of Proto-Indo-European and mixed with females of sedentary Neolithic farming groups expanding from the south in a potentially violent upheaval of the previously immobile lithic ages, involving horse domestication and invention of wheeled vehicles.

    The resultant Yamnaya culture (or an immediately preceding stage thereof) in/around Ukraine was the urheimat of proper Proto-Indo-European.

    The location of “PIE” in the map above is generally accepted as a reasonably accurate location of the *Proto-Indo-Iranian* urheimat, geographically synonymous to the Sintashta-Andronovo culture, millennia after IE branches had already established themselves across Europe and Siberia.

    Linguistic evidence suggest that the Uralic urheimat was contemporary and adjacent to (directly north of) the PII urheimat (Sintashta), so this much is accurate. However, this was during the Bronze Age and not by the last glacial maximum (LGM) as the map seems to suggest.

    Modern West Asians, from Turkey to Pakistan, are largely the same as Neolithic West Asians from a genetic standpoint, descending from the originators of river valley civilizations and Abrahamic religions. Compared to pre-neolithic revolution, say 15 kya, the region has become less genetically heterogeneous over the course of millenia of demographic and technological change.

    I know less about early Turks and Mongols, but they were from thereabouts, geographically, and they emerged during the bronze or even iron ages. They were certainly not there by 15 kya.Oct 10, 2018, 12:58 PM photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/43633733_10156694926002264_6105054251849875456_o_10156694925997264.jpg Trevor WilsonReally useful, thanks.Oct 9, 2018, 7:29 PM photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/43527294_10156694926037264_3710162199629529088_o_10156694926022264.jpg photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/43552516_10156694926787264_1546373219391373312_o_10156694926777264.jpg photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/43586900_10156694926632264_9132343636694925312_o_10156694926627264.jpg photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/43458462_10156694926687264_8515547798542745600_o_10156694926672264.jpg Trevor WilsonMycenaean.Oct 9, 2018, 7:33 PMGOOD MAPS OF EVOLUTION OF EUROPA AND WEST ASIA


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  • photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/43557764_10156694925527264_12403749

    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/43557764_10156694925527264_1240374980147937280_n_10156694925522264.jpg photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/43271795_10156694925987264_3342498061195673600_o_10156694925982264.jpg Trevor WilsonHorses tamed by steppe peoples. First chariots.Oct 09, 2018 7:31pmCurt Doolittle@[100002360673037:2048:Simon Ström] isn’t this the most helpful origin of the ‘races’. I mean, this makes far more sense of the data than the three major races.Oct 09, 2018 7:53pmCurt DoolittleSemites, turks, IE’s mongols, europeans. I mean, have we not been looking far enough backward to grasp the origin of our races?Oct 09, 2018 7:54pmJohn ScholeyThere were no Turks in the ice-age.Oct 10, 2018 9:01amCurt DoolittleDoes it say that?Oct 10, 2018 9:03amJohn ScholeyYesOct 10, 2018 9:03amCurt DoolittleNO. It says PROTO turks.Oct 10, 2018 9:04amSteven Jackson@[741197263:2048:Curt Doolittle] which of these are the Semites?Oct 10, 2018 9:53amSimon Ström@[741197263:2048:Curt Doolittle]

    Hypothetical (absolutely off and contrary to archaeological and genetic evidence in the case of PIE) urheimat locations of (vastly differently aged) language families, plotted on top of the extent of glaciers sometime during the Upper Paleolithic, as well as a timeline of extinct hominid species/UP cultures?

    This map is very random, incoherent and amateurish to me, and potentially very wrong since it is not clear at all what it does or does not imply with all those variables in the same image. It’s an F, sorry.Oct 10, 2018 11:26amCurt Doolittlethank you. I’m gonna give the author a break, and assume that he is using PIE rather than west asian, where he should be using west asian.

    Were the ehg’s turkics and mongols and west asians in those locations 15k ybp?Oct 10, 2018 11:34amCurt Doolittle(I love that I have access to you.)Oct 10, 2018 11:34amSimon Ström15 kya the world was a very different place compared to what followed, with the Neolithic revolution commencing at ~12 kya. None of the above were “in those places” at 15 kya.

    Eastern European h-gs (EHG) is a recently coined term in genetic literature referring to a seemingly discrete Mesolithic population emerging in NE Europe around 6-7000 BC along a cline of Mesolithic/Late Paleolithic Western European h-gs (WHG) and Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) admixture. EHGs almost ubiquitously belonged to, and were the first carriers of, R1a and R1b paternal haplogroups in Europe, a marker inherited from mammoth-chasing ANE males penetrating from Siberia. Representatives of the EHG “macro-ethnicity” almost certainly spoke a primitive form of Proto-Indo-European and mixed with females of sedentary Neolithic farming groups expanding from the south in a potentially violent upheaval of the previously immobile lithic ages, involving horse domestication and invention of wheeled vehicles.

    The resultant Yamnaya culture (or an immediately preceding stage thereof) in/around Ukraine was the urheimat of proper Proto-Indo-European.

    The location of “PIE” in the map above is generally accepted as a reasonably accurate location of the *Proto-Indo-Iranian* urheimat, geographically synonymous to the Sintashta-Andronovo culture, millennia after IE branches had already established themselves across Europe and Siberia.

    Linguistic evidence suggest that the Uralic urheimat was contemporary and adjacent to (directly north of) the PII urheimat (Sintashta), so this much is accurate. However, this was during the Bronze Age and not by the last glacial maximum (LGM) as the map seems to suggest.

    Modern West Asians, from Turkey to Pakistan, are largely the same as Neolithic West Asians from a genetic standpoint, descending from the originators of river valley civilizations and Abrahamic religions. Compared to pre-neolithic revolution, say 15 kya, the region has become less genetically heterogeneous over the course of millenia of demographic and technological change.

    I know less about early Turks and Mongols, but they were from thereabouts, geographically, and they emerged during the bronze or even iron ages. They were certainly not there by 15 kya.Oct 10, 2018 12:58pm photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/43633733_10156694926002264_6105054251849875456_o_10156694925997264.jpg Trevor WilsonReally useful, thanks.Oct 09, 2018 7:29pm photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/43527294_10156694926037264_3710162199629529088_o_10156694926022264.jpg photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/43552516_10156694926787264_1546373219391373312_o_10156694926777264.jpg photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/43586900_10156694926632264_9132343636694925312_o_10156694926627264.jpg photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/43458462_10156694926687264_8515547798542745600_o_10156694926672264.jpg Trevor WilsonMycenaean.Oct 09, 2018 7:33pmGOOD MAPS OF EVOLUTION OF EUROPA AND WEST ASIA


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    This one is from 1871 (does not include north-west Italy):Oct 10, 2018 5:31am


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