Category: Commentary, Critique, and Response

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  • To Elders of The Black Sun 3 : Evola

    October 17th, 2018 9:49 AM TO ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN 3 : EVOLA [E]vola, like Nietzsche was trying to create a new mythos of criticism. The problem is, that all cults are likewise, cultural warfare against something (others), but provide a positive corpus. The reason we have not solidified an alternative is the lack of a positive corpus (mythos).

  • To Elders of The Black Sun 3 : Possible Orders

    October 17th, 2018 9:46 AM TO ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN 3 : POSSIBLE ORDERS [O]K, so you are producing sufficient depth of thought so that if you work at it enough you can produce a canon. Organizational charts (prescriptions) are open to implementation the way simple sentimental resonance (Evola) is not. However, all civilizations are organized by law (or more precisely, rules). Islam is ‘easy’ because the rules are so complete, and an imbecile can memorize the myth, and principles through repetition. Christianity was imposed by coercion (literacy), as a market competition between church (nobility) and military (aristocracy). Judaism is used to preserve separatism. Hindu ‘law’ is limited but the mythos vast. Buddhism always and everywhere coexists with a martial or bureaucratic state. Hinduism and Shintoism do not need so much ‘authority’ because of genetic and cultural homogeneity. Christianity was germanicized for the same reason. Orthodoxy and islam exist across less developed (market) peoples (orthodoxy), and islam across both less developed and tribal peoples (constant hostility). We do not succeed with ideal religions. We succeed with religions that solve a problem. What religion will solve the problem of modernity AND ethnocentrism, since ethnocentrism is the optimum organizing method as long as it’s not regressive. Jews survived by parasitism on existing civilizations through profit from moral hazard, accumulating capital, and then using it for more moral hazard, until they were cast out. During that entire time they contributed nothing to humanity (competitiveness) until converted to aristotelianism. In general, either (a) produce a fiction that people want to run to for economic or political reasons (marxism, postmodernism, feminism); (b) produce an economic order that people want to run to for economic reasons; (c) Produce a Myth of Conquest by which a small group of men can take advantage of a weakness in a current order; (d) produce an improvement in a mythos over a homogenous polity that provides greater explanatory power, and greater utility, and greater methods of cooperation in new (current) conditions. There are only three possible incentives in the production of order: Law/Violence, Commerce/Wealth, Cult/Cooperation

  • To Elders of The Black Sun 3 : Evola

    October 17th, 2018 9:49 AM TO ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN 3 : EVOLA [E]vola, like Nietzsche was trying to create a new mythos of criticism. The problem is, that all cults are likewise, cultural warfare against something (others), but provide a positive corpus. The reason we have not solidified an alternative is the lack of a positive corpus (mythos).

  • To Elders of The Black Sun 3 : Possible Orders

    October 17th, 2018 9:46 AM TO ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN 3 : POSSIBLE ORDERS [O]K, so you are producing sufficient depth of thought so that if you work at it enough you can produce a canon. Organizational charts (prescriptions) are open to implementation the way simple sentimental resonance (Evola) is not. However, all civilizations are organized by law (or more precisely, rules). Islam is ‘easy’ because the rules are so complete, and an imbecile can memorize the myth, and principles through repetition. Christianity was imposed by coercion (literacy), as a market competition between church (nobility) and military (aristocracy). Judaism is used to preserve separatism. Hindu ‘law’ is limited but the mythos vast. Buddhism always and everywhere coexists with a martial or bureaucratic state. Hinduism and Shintoism do not need so much ‘authority’ because of genetic and cultural homogeneity. Christianity was germanicized for the same reason. Orthodoxy and islam exist across less developed (market) peoples (orthodoxy), and islam across both less developed and tribal peoples (constant hostility). We do not succeed with ideal religions. We succeed with religions that solve a problem. What religion will solve the problem of modernity AND ethnocentrism, since ethnocentrism is the optimum organizing method as long as it’s not regressive. Jews survived by parasitism on existing civilizations through profit from moral hazard, accumulating capital, and then using it for more moral hazard, until they were cast out. During that entire time they contributed nothing to humanity (competitiveness) until converted to aristotelianism. In general, either (a) produce a fiction that people want to run to for economic or political reasons (marxism, postmodernism, feminism); (b) produce an economic order that people want to run to for economic reasons; (c) Produce a Myth of Conquest by which a small group of men can take advantage of a weakness in a current order; (d) produce an improvement in a mythos over a homogenous polity that provides greater explanatory power, and greater utility, and greater methods of cooperation in new (current) conditions. There are only three possible incentives in the production of order: Law/Violence, Commerce/Wealth, Cult/Cooperation

  • “Are You Done Yet?”

    October 17th, 2018 3:08 PM [Y]ou don’t understand. Propertarianism is the most complete system of thought to date – more so than Marxism. It completes the Darwinian-Nietzchean (spencer, maxwell, mengerian, poincare) revolution. No I’m not kidding. That’s why you can’t grok it so easily. It addresses every aspect of human knowledge from what we call metaphysics through ethics, politics, and aesthetics. So, when you ask me “are you done yet?” I’m still “Getting close but do you understand what I’m doin’ here? I wouldn’t be necessary if it wasn’t for the second world war. We went off the rails. I’m putting us back on them. Really. It only took the majority of my adult life…

  • Answering Misunderstandings and The Folly of Cults.

    October 17th, 2018 3:04 PM ANSWERING MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND THE FOLLY OF CULTS. With Giego Caleiro ( @Giego : I think your pm put out your objection pretty clearly, so hopefully this is a good start to working through the details. -Curt)

    —“There are fewer influx of defectors in islands, in isthmuses with mountains on the other side etc….”—

    Yes. Geography provides a discount in defense against competition by war, trade capture, immigration, conversion, defection, and malinformation.

    –“Religion is a unifying force for systems with constant influx and outflux, it is a process, and adaptive process.”—

    Religion is a form of education that in the past used storytelling (suggestion) and ritual (suggestibility) to train the intuition (pre-rational brain), to conform to general rules of conduct that advanced the group’s market (evolutionary) strategy in a period of near zero change, among people who lacked ability and experience to reason, calculate, and compute. And where our knowledge of physical forces and properties of the universe was profoundly limited, and our concept of time was an imitation of the seasons: repeating. We are no longer in those conditions.

    —“The truth is not a process, it’s just a bunch of facts. “—

    Truth is a process of due diligence that maintains continuous relations between reality, perception, cognition, memory, forecasting, description, negotiation, and advocacy: perception, frame, > display + word + deed. Truth always was, and always will be a test of one’s testimony consisting of consistency, correspondence, and coherence with reality: “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth”. “That which is laundered and warranted against imaginary content.” We use the word “True/False” like “yes/no” or “agree/disagree” as consent/disagreement in the context of Truth independent of all else, Good by both our standards of measure, Preference by one’s own measure, Utility and actionability as whether possible or not. The fact that we conflate all those different conditions is a matter of colloquial illiteracy and habit, not because we are conscious of the difference between terms. (The same way we use reasonable, rational, logical as appeals to authority by exaggerating our claims.)

    —“When you’re 95%Han or 95% Jap and your frontiers are negligible, you can do without God. “—

    When you are strong enough you can do without frauds. You resort to lies when you are weak. Fraud is a cheap means of governing ignorant people. Law is the cheapest means of governing skilled people. Violence is an expensive means of governing internal and external peoples as a means of replacing the order (status quo). The romans used law and violence, and oath to the emperor. The egyptians, mesopotamians, and syrians used cults because they conquered inferior people lacking ability and knowledge. The Jews used it to cause defection in women, and slaves (the underclasses) and then in a period of weakness, an emperor with a jewish (christian) mother from the lower classes, imposed it on the western empire, insuring it’s submission, by exiting its aristocracy from rule. You can rule imbeciles, the weak, and the unskilled with religion, but they are a dead weight. They were not a dead weight in antiquity since nearly all wealth was agrarian production. How do you rule the current working, middle, professional, and financial classes with superstitious nonsense?

    —“But the mythology and ritualistic training of religion are filters for those who come in with a smaller proportion of, say, white genes, but who can still be fixed, as well as a creator of a transcendental morale that invites men to go to war to defend their land (Crusades). “—

    One needs the power to enforce such a thing. How does one get that power? It’s not like the arabs,the turkics, the europeans, or even the africans are sufficientlly ignorant that the lies of the monotheistic era can persist. Islam offers the lowest of the low a pretty complete network of decidabilty. What will you offer those people instead, and why would they choose it over a god that gives them whatever they ask for in exchange for obedience?

    —“You can do your propertarianism in Australia, Japan, China, India, Denmark, and if you kick or kill sufficiently many, and bomb the tunnel, in England (start by nuking london)”—

    No one has to understand propertarianism at all except for a few elites. The entire process boils down to expansion of the law such that false speech is prosecutiable as theft from or damage to the commons just as we currently do with products and services. All this does is use the existing system to suppress abrahamism in the old and current forms, so that alternative non-false ‘mythologies’ can emerge (reach the stars, transcendence, etc).

    —“But you cannot do it in contiguous eurasian land with easy access, north africa, middle east, Brazil, south america (except Chile). “—

    That’s the thing. It’s trivial. Because the incentives I’ve proposed are purely economic and political and effectively pays people to end what they see is oppression by extraction and deception. There is nothing to ‘believe’. Only whether the proposed constitutional changes will produce a superior order for all. And the rewards are so substantial that it’s very difficult for people to argue against them other than to justify theft and fraud – which simply licenses violence against them.

    —“It just doesn’t work.”—

    You mean, your presumption that propertarianism is a philosophy or religion (Positiva) rather than a science and logic of social science and the law (negativa).

    —“Jesus saves foreigners sometimes, trains their kids. Makes european women output 2.1+ babies. “—

    So does eliminating interest, eliminating the cost of education, eliminating financialization, redistributing central government and spending authority to the states, and creating the greatest reallocation of opportunity capital in human history. This means that people will bear children earlier, pay less for their production, be more dependent upon them in retirement again, and exit their child-rearing years without debt and as homeowners with 20+ years to consume, save, or invest. People don’t need to ‘believe’. They just need to undrestand the material solution to their problems was science not cults.

    —“And it makes men go to arms for the land, for the country, for the race, for the family, and, above all, for God.”–

    Men go to arms for profit opportunity, exit of boredom, seeing the world, and the opportunity to steal, plunder, rape, pillage, obtains laves, and murder in vast numbers. The decoration is just an excuse to do so for the common good. Any illusion otherwise is a product of the success of the nation state in ritualizing the Peace of Westphalia which ended with Isis, Iran, and Putin. The european era is over, and we are back to guerrilla warfare and a war of all against all which states can no longer contain. Cheers.

  • The Social Order

    October 17th, 2018 2:19 PM THE SOCIAL ORDER by Brandon Hayes [M]arkets are the solution for cooperation and they form BETWEEN THE CLASSES! When we begin to dissolve the classes or they become intertwined/intermingled with-in a democratic system; cooperation ceases and compromise becomes the ethic. And the way we compromise in democracy is voting. And people simple vote their temperamental bias. Our economic landscape favors an emotionally laden bias (feminine, dysgenic, short term), because we have created short term pleasure seekers as citizens. It’s a downward spiral to chaos. I follow a group of people who have (what I consider) the only cogent, evolutionarily stable, ready to roll out strategy to end what ails humanity. My aim is to advocate for every plan that is feasible; every pathway available; and every lifestyle commensurate with a peaceful and flourishing future for planet earth and the HUMANS that reside here. RELATIVE inequality causes violence [mostly among men](not being poorer than your relatives {joke} but being poor among people who aren’t). Losses in property en toto (this includes abstract items like ego bruises; and loses to agency) are the cause of negative emotion. It isn’t poverty nor lack of education that brings about violence; it’s despair. Not seeing a way out of your own suffering; which can be exacerbated by having those around you lack any sort of suffering (from what you can tell; NOTE: we all suffer). The internet and its primed and primed stories don’t help. Technology has sped up trends that were already dangerous. In order to reverse dangerous trends we must visit and take stock of the behaviors and feedback loops that cause them; and luckily or unluckily enough those behaviors are trained into most humans by use of incentive tooling (agents lacking the adequate serotonin levels to feel worthwhile; being supplemented by dopamine kicks through hedonistic pleasure seeking) [whether the tooling was purposeful or not is irrelevant; the new PROPER tooling can be purposeful and adaptive]. We have an economic pleasure (happiness) trap, that just so happens to devolve into something that takes more and more effort to obtain “happiness.” It’s really quite brilliant to see. As you age you become more financially stable (usually) and capable of buying bigger ticket items that are supposed to bring you the appropriate amount of elation… they don’t. The underclass (or lower class) needs domesticating; this can’t be gained or trained if we assume and grant them full personhood. The reason is simple; those that lack agency will push for incentives they simply CAN’T gain on their own (someone else must PAY). The same can be said but to a much lesser extent of the working class. They will vote their way into uselessness (dysgenic). Knowing that agency must be trained AND that granted power (voting, judging, etc) will corrupt those moving through the world intuitively because they will use their power to justify their intuitions. We must teach (foster, train) an ethic of tolerance. THIS is where Jesus fits in: Tolerance must be the defining characteristic of the under/lower/working classes because they lack the ability for forbearance {for now}. What Jesus did (the core metaphor of the new testament) was make a tolerable (perhaps even desirable) ethic for the (a) lower class (underclass). It’s a submissive ethic. It’s wise to adopt for those without agency (which most in the past we’re without agency [technology has released more capable agents than biological progress {possibly}). It’s wise to adopt when lacking agency because it purports safe long-term strategies devoid of tactics that require agency to unfurl; like violence, judgment, and punishment. [They leave that up to the flaming sword bearer; God; (reality en toto)] Additionally, the Christian ethic is a route to agency; to adopt the mantra “you are that which dies and is reborn anew,” is essentially what one must do in order to author one’s own life. Add to this; the idea that God is “hands on” is eradicated in the new testament! Look, we tortured then murdered the instantiation of Himself (Jesus) and He rises again as the holy spirit; i.e. God distributed among the living; hence each human represented as a single transcendent unit in the “eyes of the lord” (humanity as such). At least, that’s what I get from the book (the Theology people and their historic readings will murder me for that butchery of Christian Theology; but quite frankly they don’t have a good enough version of their own shit! If they did they world would be in an objectively better spot). It just seems profound enough of a story (myth); WITHOUT the attached meta-physical or historical claims. It’s a shortcut to understand “you gotta do it for yourself; and it’ll be painful as hell.” Peterson says he acts as God exists; “The beginning of wisdom is the fear of God.” I disagree; I believe you ought to act as though God has left it to you (He resides INSIDE) to create paradise here on your own (with other humans; it’s up to us) AND like a great coach (or trainer), He won’t lift a meta-physical pinky finger to help you (He is confident you can pull through on your own). This ethic; devoid of historical and attempted power grabbing lies is a ready-to-roll-out a behavioral set that allows for much more (movement in the world) than it stifles. It peaches tolerance. What lives on today; The Abrahamism; the cult of Abraham; feminism and post-modernism (the SJW phenomena) the argumentative realm of pilpul and critique; the feminine means of coercion (gossip shame rally moralize etc); Isn’t the proper lesson to be learned (obviously). It just so happens to be the evolutionary hardwiring (the training) that was encoded through orthodoxy. Weaponizing the texts as a means to gain power as opposed to a means to bring about peace. A catastrophic perversion of what should be lives currently. [God {reality as such} is angry! This is why we have chaos; you’ve collectively sinned (aimed improperly) and misused works for millennia]. Christianity (perhaps there are better forms than others; h/t Giego Caleiro… Mormonism?) is stable ethic for those still needing domestication (development of agency) and it doesn’t hinder their ability to obtain agency and can keep them docile and helpful if it never develops. It’s individualistic insistence; it’s push for individualism; to be a sovereign (one with agency) is VERY good. It’s an intuition training short cut to capable agents if pursued correctly (that’s with agency as the aim; of course). However, this is the real world and individualism fails. It leaves you alone. The sovereign in the stories mentioned was tortured and murdered brutally; this is what attempting to be an individual sovereign will get you in this world. We just haven’t evolved that much. (That’s a warning; you can’t just be what you FEEL like you ought to be; not without suffering and sacrifice!) Humans need collectives [families are PARAMOUNT]; some collectivism is needed because we need each other. It doesn’t matter how much technology and the state powers attempt to convince us otherwise [the issue is they have encoded “not needing each other” into people’s actions and destroyed families]. Nation states with stratified (but permeable) classes with their own cultural norms being followed are by far the best landscape for creating individuals with agency. And the best chance for humans to remain evolutionarily viable on planet earth. An amalgam of all the races, nations, and creeds; will leave human as ONE thing; unable to adjust for sudden changes in environment [say unable to deal with catastrophic climate shifts]. Collectives of people will wipe out individuals not playing by their rules if given enough power. Only groups are sovereign, and that sovereignty is purchased at the highest of costs; an armed collective [a militia willing to kill those who may threaten it]. We need stable collectives in the same manner we need stable people (they feed into each other). Bringing them about by top down dictum {rule of Law, NOT the current rule of lawyers} (because we know how; via-Negativa) as well as bottom-up evolution (stoicism; via self-authoring) is the only strategy we have; we must do this done by any means necessary. The propertarian ethic can be overlaid onto an agency developing under and working class. The zero tolerance for free-riding and parasitism can be applied without a hitch. And for what it’s worth it’s those at the tippy-top acting as parasites and value extractors causing the greatest harm. We get to have zero tolerance for THEM; they KNOW what their doing! Those that lack agency do what they are steered to do (either by the elephant or by the environment; they are the herd), we can only blame them if they choose to forgo the offer we make (an offer they can’t refuse). This also requires LESS work to begin to roll-out societal changes because the ethic (in-part) simply needs a re-tooling as opposed to a complete culling and rebuilding. I am for using the current infrastructure (building and roadways; but also, stories and behavioral patterns) to our advantage (in pursuit of our aim). We are far down the spiral towards violence but given the superhuman technology and infrastructure we have developed we can back-track up this slippery slope and avoid bloodshed [something those far right and left don’t want to hear; they are antagonistic forces begging for a battle arena]. What we have brewing is a perfect storm of chaos; the flood is very real and fast approaching. Pick an arena: all bubbles and TV shows; all smoke and mirrors; all bark no bite. No follow through, no competence, no gratitude; all attitude and feelings. I came the through idealistic meta-physical left; I was never for social justice; but I am for justice. The intellectual operational right has a roll-out ready solution to tensions that requires only the whiners and do-nothings to be stripped of authority; sign-me-up! {NOTE: many of the humans currently alive lack agency; BUT the proper framework can simply “gift” it (agency) to those capable. It’s only their “training” that keeps them draining on the economy and on others; it’s only the affordance granted by our systems and institutions that keeps them dragging the rest of us down.} Curt likes to proclaim that the West dragged humanity kicking a screaming out of ignorance and superstition [that’s right]; but quite frankly, it’s easier to drag corpses (or leave them to rot). This being said; I’m for releasing the ropes and chains used for dragging and simply asking y’all to walk alongside us towards something better; for everyone’s sake!