ON DEMAND FOR THE SACRED: EUROPEAN MARKET OR SEMITIC MONOPOLY? 1 – Heidegger=german, which is the point of the discussion. Whether the Truth (knowledge, science, history, heroes, evolution) or Wisdom Literature (parables, fictions, myths) are the basis for civic contract (Monopoly). Or whether a hierarchy of graceful failure from the scientific to the religious is the basis of our civic contract (Market) 2 – The sacred can consist of us, ourselves, can be something else (creatures, anthropomorphic, or formless), can be of things (idols), can be of ideas (of books and words), or of anything that we owe a debt. Although, ideas, things, symbols-proxies for leaders, and ourselves is a very close to complete list of the possibilities. 3 – The sacred serves as a proxy between those who are not good enough to submit to one another. 4 – Religion consists of training (education) the intuition (emotions) so that people ‘feel like’ you do by taking advantage of our pre-cognitive biases. 6 – We can measure increase and decrease demand for ‘the sacred’ (proxies) and I am fairly sure the science of it (like that of status) is simply one that generates denialism. That is to to say that such therapeutic measures are unnecessary, but that they are not explicable.In other words, exposing the content and drive behind the ‘sacred’ makes the sacred impossible, thereby removing which is why it is denied. I 7 – So , to some people the scientific truth is sacred, to some of us (american constitutionalists) the constitution and by proxy ‘we, us, our-way’ is sacred. To some religious tradition is sacred. To some of us a monarchy or leader is sacred. To some of us family, tribe, and nation is sacred. To some of us mankind is sacred. To some of us the transcendence of mankind into the gods we imagine is sacred (that would include me). And to some of us we spread, combine, include, or exclude as suits our interests. 8 – Since debts of submission can be created along those and other axis, the behaviors we want to develop in a polity need only be expressible in all those paradigms – or at least, be sufficiently compatible that group persistence survives competition and shocks. 9 – So the question is, (a) what are those rules of group strategy obscured within and created by some sacred debt, (b) what paradigms within each grammar (system of thought) each system of thought which corresponds to a degree of agency and interests, given our age, class, and accumulated relationships and assets. 10 – it is not … challenging … to understand that the occult is an expression of vulnerability or powerlessness, that ritual an expression of mindfulness, that gatherings are an expression of inclusion, and that festival an expression of trust creation is rather simple. That the narrative content of a mythos allows us categories, relations, and values that can be taught to children (or idiots) which allows graceful (simple) calculation and coordination of cooperation is rather simple. 11 – I don’t do via positiva (religion, philosophy, and literature). I do via negativa law. While we differ in what is preferable and good, and we differ in demand for proportionality, and we differ in demand for liberty (opportunity), we do not differ in demand for reciprocity. Instead, we all seek to preserve our advantageous means of parasitism, predation, deception, and self deception. 12 – philosophy religion and literature (via positiva ) is for others (and frankly, for those who need them). I don’t do either. 13 – It is possible that the clash of civilizations between the german continental and the anglo scandinavian (naval) is simply that the british were smarter, better educated, and more evolved, and the germans, who were the “rednecks” of europe for all of her history, were, and remain a more sentimental people. I just don’t know if that’s an advantage or not. What it appears, is that it’s economically and militarily superior to follow the german model of TRUTH, DUTY, PIETY, AND RECIPROCITY.
Theme: Truth
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METAPHYSICS: WE SENSE THE WORLD FINE. WE FILL IN THE BLANKS LESS SO —“Curt, ho
METAPHYSICS: WE SENSE THE WORLD FINE. WE FILL IN THE BLANKS LESS SO
—“Curt, how do you deal with the “we can’t trust our senses so we have no idea what reality consists of” argument? I.e. how can we determine if sensory information is false?”—
There is no evidence that we can’t trust our senses at human scale.
So we perceive the world as it exists but at the scale and velocity of our perception.
We have to defend against our cognitive biases that evolved at human scale . Or more simply, we SENSE the world just fine. We often PERCEIVE the world with error.
We improve our perception with more information. we improve it further with falsification (tests of our cognitive biases). And we use instrumentation to EXTEND those perceptions.
So it’s not true that we sense the world incorrectly. We appear to sense it (at human scale) quite accurately, and we tend to perceive it (at human scale) fairly accurately.
But we ‘fill in the blanks’ with lots of error.
So we have to make sure we aren’t filling in the blanks with error.
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-01 05:47:00 UTC
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ON DEMAND FOR THE SACRED: EUROPEAN MARKET OR SEMITIC MONOPOLY? 1 – Heidegger=ger
ON DEMAND FOR THE SACRED: EUROPEAN MARKET OR SEMITIC MONOPOLY?
1 – Heidegger=german, which is the point of the discussion. Whether the Truth (knowledge, science, history, heroes, evolution) or Wisdom Literature (parables, fictions, myths) are the basis for civic contract (Monopoly). Or whether a hierarchy of graceful failure from the scientific to the religious is the basis of our civic contract (Market)
2 – The sacred can consist of us, ourselves, can be something else (creatures, anthropomorphic, or formless), can be of things (idols), can be of ideas (of books and words), or of anything that we owe a debt. Although, ideas, things, symbols-proxies for leaders, and ourselves is a very close to complete list of the possibilities.
3 – The sacred serves as a proxy between those who are not good enough to submit to one another.
4 – Religion consists of training (education) the intuition (emotions) so that people ‘feel like’ you do by taking advantage of our pre-cognitive biases.
6 – We can measure increase and decrease demand for ‘the sacred’ (proxies) and I am fairly sure the science of it (like that of status) is simply one that generates denialism. That is to to say that such therapeutic measures are unnecessary, but that they are not explicable.In other words, exposing the content and drive behind the ‘sacred’ makes the sacred impossible, thereby removing which is why it is denied. I
7 – So , to some people the scientific truth is sacred, to some of us (american constitutionalists) the constitution and by proxy ‘we, us, our-way’ is sacred. To some religious tradition is sacred. To some of us a monarchy or leader is sacred. To some of us family, tribe, and nation is sacred. To some of us mankind is sacred. To some of us the transcendence of mankind into the gods we imagine is sacred (that would include me). And to some of us we spread, combine, include, or exclude as suits our interests.
8 – Since debts of submission can be created along those and other axis, the behaviors we want to develop in a polity need only be expressible in all those paradigms – or at least, be sufficiently compatible that group persistence survives competition and shocks.
9 – So the question is, (a) what are those rules of group strategy obscured within and created by some sacred debt, (b) what paradigms within each grammar (system of thought) each system of thought which corresponds to a degree of agency and interests, given our age, class, and accumulated relationships and assets.
10 – it is not … challenging … to understand that the occult is an expression of vulnerability or powerlessness, that ritual an expression of mindfulness, that gatherings are an expression of inclusion, and that festival an expression of trust creation is rather simple. That the narrative content of a mythos allows us categories, relations, and values that can be taught to children (or idiots) which allows graceful (simple) calculation and coordination of cooperation is rather simple.
11 – I don’t do via positiva (religion, philosophy, and literature). I do via negativa law. While we differ in what is preferable and good, and we differ in demand for proportionality, and we differ in demand for liberty (opportunity), we do not differ in demand for reciprocity. Instead, we all seek to preserve our advantageous means of parasitism, predation, deception, and self deception.
12 – philosophy religion and literature (via positiva ) is for others (and frankly, for those who need them). I don’t do either.
13 – It is possible that the clash of civilizations between the german continental and the anglo scandinavian (naval) is simply that the british were smarter, better educated, and more evolved, and the germans, who were the “rednecks” of europe for all of her history, were, and remain a more sentimental people. I just don’t know if that’s an advantage or not. What it appears, is that it’s economically and militarily superior to follow the german model of TRUTH, DUTY, PIETY, AND RECIPROCITY.
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-01 05:15:00 UTC
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Everyone wants to preserve their way of deceit in the current era. Just as peopl
Everyone wants to preserve their way of deceit in the current era.
Just as people wanted to preserve their way of fraud in the recent era.
Just as people wanted to preserve their way of violence in the prior era.
Just as people wanted to preserve their way of theft in the previous era.
Just as people wanted to preserve their way of murder in the previous era.
Incremental Suppression.
Source date (UTC): 2018-10-31 12:49:00 UTC
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The media is the Enemy of the People, the “Fifth Column”, from the bottom 1/5 of
The media is the Enemy of the People, the “Fifth Column”, from the bottom 1/5 of their graduating classes. If the were liable for the truthfulness of their speech as are members of every other industry (except the academy and state) they would evaporate. Media=Gossip.
@getongab
Source date (UTC): 2018-10-31 00:51:15 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1057434792269172737
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THEM (MIDDLE EAST) VS US (WEST) Face ………………………vs Truth Reasona
THEM (MIDDLE EAST) VS US (WEST)
Face ………………………vs Truth
Reasonableness ……..vs Decidability
Pilpul ……………………..vs Construction
Critique ………………….vs Falsification
Authority ………………..vs Market
Equality ………………….vs Hierarchy
Proportionality ………..vs Reciprocity
Herd ………………………vs Pack.
Feminine ………………..vs Masculine
Source date (UTC): 2018-10-30 20:15:00 UTC
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How Propertarianism “Ties the World of Knowledge Together”
October 30th, 2018 8:44 AM BRANDON HAYES – UNDERSTANDING HOW PROPERTARIANISM “TIES THE WORLD OF KNOWLEDGE TOGETHER” [T]his is gold:
—“Many in my generation have a wealth of information (bits of data) but it’s like the leaves on a tree; nothing connects the lot of them so many are obscured or lost. Some have branches; let’s call them knowledge. Propertarianism serves well as a trunk. (Roots are grounded action; they effect the system as a whole). {I’ve added many branches and have been gifted a trunk (thank you); I keep track of my property} 😉 Since being introduced to these topics that bridge disciplines my retrieval of information has improved drastically as well as explanatory power. “— Brandon Hayes
Because that was my original purpose: a universal language of social, political, legal, science.
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How Propertarianism “Ties the World of Knowledge Together”
October 30th, 2018 8:44 AM BRANDON HAYES – UNDERSTANDING HOW PROPERTARIANISM “TIES THE WORLD OF KNOWLEDGE TOGETHER” [T]his is gold:
—“Many in my generation have a wealth of information (bits of data) but it’s like the leaves on a tree; nothing connects the lot of them so many are obscured or lost. Some have branches; let’s call them knowledge. Propertarianism serves well as a trunk. (Roots are grounded action; they effect the system as a whole). {I’ve added many branches and have been gifted a trunk (thank you); I keep track of my property} 😉 Since being introduced to these topics that bridge disciplines my retrieval of information has improved drastically as well as explanatory power. “— Brandon Hayes
Because that was my original purpose: a universal language of social, political, legal, science.
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Joslin Demonstrates The Argument
October 30th, 2018 12:24 PM by Bill Joslin [T]ruth, as a semantic axiom, with limitless constellations of interpretive frames. Correspondence presumes an existential frame. An existential frame provides a means of checking and vetting outside of the presumptions of the context one might bring to an assertion – that being testability of its existence. This testability then defines the methodology. The methodology then presumes the existential frame and uses said method to update the interpretive frame. By doing so a feedback between interpretation, methodology occurs and is measured by existence (what can be measured or observed – and how) this allows both the interpretive frame and methodology to be updated (both are provisional). This affords the most robust means of coherence to truth (small ‘t’ truth) in the context of truth as a semantic axiom i.e truthful and honest reporting. (CD: when you can understand and make that argument on your own, ” you are there “.
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Everything is simple
October 30th, 2018 10:48 AM “JUSTIFY VS RATIONALIZE” (vocabulary) [W]e justify by rational (internally consistent) means using reason (our ability to compare and decide) due to our logical (biological) facility, which we try to study in that discipline we call ‘logic’, which is nothing more than the grammar of constant relations between terms (references). The thing is that ‘rational’ is a heavily conflated term. So for clarity I avoid rationalize (which is value neutral) and use justify (which is not). |LOGIC| Logical Facility > Reason(Comparison) > Rationalism (Internal Consistency) > Calculation (Transformation) > Computation (Construction). Everything is simple. – Vitruvianism makes metaphysics simple. – The grammars make ‘thinking’ (reason) simple. – Acquisitionism makes psychology simple. – Compatibilism makes sociology simple – Propertarianism makes ethics and law simple. – Group Competitive Strategy makes Government Simple. – All of the above make Aesthetics simple. Everything is simple. A continuous, consistent, grammar of comprehension from the physical to the social to the personal to the mental.