Theme: Truth

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544287916 Timestamp) IT DEPENDS UPON HOW YOU DEFINE CHRISTIANITY —“I’m confused about something. If you don’t think biblical Christianity is actually true, e.g.you think it is based on elaborate deception, then how is it allowable? How is it beneficial? I believe you’ve made a point of calling out intentional deception as unallowable in society. What reason is there to assume that you can take away non-deceptive parts and dump the rest, and still have a workable system? My impression is that the Jefferson Bible is in no sense Christianity. (my apologies if this is already addressed in the video or elsewhere; I haven’t watched yet)”— Matt Evans Well, that depends upon what you call ‘christianity’ and whether you think it’s good. Christianity can be the scientific content, and the consequences of that scientific content, which while very limited we can demonstrate are in fact good. Or whether you think Christianity is all the nonsense that is wrapped around it (lies). As a scientist I have to acknowledge that the optimum game theory humans can play is the christian command for love of others. I can’t escape that. As a scientist I have to acknowledge that everything else about christianity is catastrophically bad, even if not as evil as judaism or islam. Now, once we distill christianity down to those few rules (rules of optimum prisoner’s dilemma), the question is whether it is still ‘christianity’ in any meaningful way. I would argue that it is still christianity, because religions constitute our means of intuitionistically training members of the polity, nation, and civilization, to pursue the same strategy – hopefully one in their interest – that allows different groups to cooperate at large scale. I think (well I’m certain) that the short list of rules in christianity are optimums. But I do not think the jesus story is good. I am certain the god story is bad. And I think as do many that the christian god is a semitic tyrant over the semitic slaves – and completely against the interests of our people – which is why our people have incrementally escaped christianity, turned it to our own, while the jews and muslims have only become more obsessed with theirs. So, in attempting to solve the problem of the future, how can we provide the same psychological, social, and political functions as did christianity, and suppress, defeat, or eliminate competitors to those rules – competitors that would return us to the semitic darkness that we have saved ourselves from. Now, we have tools of: Naturalism(reality) < Logic and Mathematics (Measurement) < Science(Due DIligence, Naturalism) < Law+Economics(Decidability) < History (Evidence) < Literature (Analogy, Pedagogy, Theorizing), Philosophy (Removing Science), and Theology(Removing Reason) to work with. And I can find no reason to gracefully fail across the spectrum of Measurements, Due Diligence, Decidability < Evidence < Pedagogy, if we supply mindfulness (what we consider spirituality) through equally scientific means (training). And if we have to teach people SOMETHING, why teach them a falsehood when we can teach the same content truthfully (scientifically)? And the only answer is to preserve the psychological malinvestment of preceding generations at the expense of all past and future generations. I think moral education – and a uniform one – is necessary, just as is fitness, daily survival knowledge, calculation ability, and job skills. I think personal, interpersonal, and civic mindfulness is a natural demand of conscious creatures. I think the civic ritual of church: the oath, the historical lessons, and the balance between the heroic tragic warrior and the loving tragic saint (jesus) are important. One can look at the great religions and traditions and observe relatively easily how each tries to, and succeeds in, providing those goods in satisfaction of those demands. It is very difficult to look at judaism, and islam and say that they are other than a destructive force in the world compared to the other religions and traditions – particularly the hindu, chinese and japanese traditions. When we look at christianity it was designed as and used as a destructive force in the world. And the three abrahamic religions are responsible for more evil than all but the great plagues. Our ancestors succeeded in germanizing christianity by keeping it’s good parts and eliminating its bad parts. I see my function, and our function as the living generation encountering this remaining problem, as continuing to modernize that “sick, twisted, desert anti-civilizational blood cult’, into an institution like the catholic church once provided as a competitor to the state, and restoring its role in education, but to deprive it of semitic deceits, and use our own far superior history. I might fail, but it is my job to remove as much lying from our civilization in order to defend our high-trust people against further decline. And if that means the church must further reform then that’s what it means. The alternative is not restoration, but that the church, within a generation or so, will die off. Numbers are numbers. The church doesn’t have any. IF we are to have a church so to speak, and a civic religion that is more than just legalism, that includes the personal mindfulness, socialization and festival that legalism doesn’t provide – making us all invested in one another – then we need a church that provides future benefits to people not past. And while I haven’t discussed much of this in public yet, I think I know at least MOST of the answer. We never ceased being polytheistic. Ever. Just as we are poly grammatical (Frames, Paradigms). Many heroes are always better than one, as long as they are compatible. We are too different in our abilities, social roles, occupations and responsibilities. There is a basis upon which the heroic family in all her grammars and stories, rests, and that is Individual Sovereignty, the natural law of reciprocity, truth and duty and, yes, charity. And it is christian charity: exhaustive optimism and investment in others – rather than donations or mental fantasies that forms that basis.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544283381 Timestamp) THERE IS NO APOLOGY THAT STANDS SCRUTINY I just don’t use the christian (semitic) model of thought at all. zero. I use the western (european) model of thought: Literature, History, War, Economics, Law, Science, Logic, and Mathematics. (LHWELSLM). I can’t read apologist literature. It’s all Abrahamism. It’s no different from marxism, postmodernism, and feminism, and was and always will be, something forced upon us, that which we struggled to escape, that which we nearly escaped, and that which we are still trying to escape. I do science. I don’t really do philosophy except to undrestand it’s failures. I don’t do theology except to understand its failure. There is no apology for sophism and supernaturalism or pseudoscience that stands scrutiny.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544392745 Timestamp) —“For me Testimonialism is one of the easier concepts in Propertarianism. Much of what you speak about requires a lot more reading, whereas Testimonialism is easy to get if you work with automation, have experience with programming, have read a bit of philosophy of science, have an IQ above two SDs, and has a touch of aspieness.”— Singular Speech lol 😉

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544392745 Timestamp) —“For me Testimonialism is one of the easier concepts in Propertarianism. Much of what you speak about requires a lot more reading, whereas Testimonialism is easy to get if you work with automation, have experience with programming, have read a bit of philosophy of science, have an IQ above two SDs, and has a touch of aspieness.”— Singular Speech lol 😉

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544710123 Timestamp) A LITTLE INCREASED PRECISION ON MY USE OF ‘AGENCY’ I preserve both real and ideal definitions of truth, and so the source of confusion is my deflation of truth into real and ideal terms (truthfulness, and truth proper/ideal truth) and not doing so with agency (agency in fact, and ideal agency) and assuming the reader understands. Second, part of the reason i use the term is to reverse its emphasis on the blame of others(structure) vs the self (mindfulness). And that is because I include reciprocity which includes markets in everything. Which is perfect ‘structure’. So perfect knowledge, perfect action, within limits of reciprocity (perfect structure) is commensurable with perfect testimony (truth proper/ideal truth). So I don’t have a term for agency as you most it (possible range of production), instead of the limit of production. Whereas with truthful and truth i have a term for both the possible range of production, and the limit of production. Agency —————————————————> Good —————————————————–> Honest->Truthful(real)->True(Ideal)->True(Analytic)->Taut.-> Agency(limit) = Omniscience(knowledge), +Omnicognizance(Reason), +Omnipotence(Action), within +Reciprocity(Condition) |Agency| Knowledge->Reason->Action->Condition. Thanks Bill Joslin for helping me with this oversight.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544652110 Timestamp) —“Curt; What are your views on propaganda?”—Gabriel Y. Truth spoken elegantly and succinctly is the best advertising.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544710123 Timestamp) A LITTLE INCREASED PRECISION ON MY USE OF ‘AGENCY’ I preserve both real and ideal definitions of truth, and so the source of confusion is my deflation of truth into real and ideal terms (truthfulness, and truth proper/ideal truth) and not doing so with agency (agency in fact, and ideal agency) and assuming the reader understands. Second, part of the reason i use the term is to reverse its emphasis on the blame of others(structure) vs the self (mindfulness). And that is because I include reciprocity which includes markets in everything. Which is perfect ‘structure’. So perfect knowledge, perfect action, within limits of reciprocity (perfect structure) is commensurable with perfect testimony (truth proper/ideal truth). So I don’t have a term for agency as you most it (possible range of production), instead of the limit of production. Whereas with truthful and truth i have a term for both the possible range of production, and the limit of production. Agency —————————————————> Good —————————————————–> Honest->Truthful(real)->True(Ideal)->True(Analytic)->Taut.-> Agency(limit) = Omniscience(knowledge), +Omnicognizance(Reason), +Omnipotence(Action), within +Reciprocity(Condition) |Agency| Knowledge->Reason->Action->Condition. Thanks Bill Joslin for helping me with this oversight.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544652110 Timestamp) —“Curt; What are your views on propaganda?”—Gabriel Y. Truth spoken elegantly and succinctly is the best advertising.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544803329 Timestamp) THE NATURAL LAW FUNCTION OF RELIGION —“…error…”— I don’t make errors. It’s my job. I run tests. I try to remove all falsehood from all statements. To leave only the truth standing. Because that other than sovereignty, it is western man’s uniqueness: Truth Regardless of the Impact to the self-image(personal), status(social), competence(economic), and dominance(political) hierarchy. Now, back to your criticism. —“Religion is nothing but education.”–CD There is nothing [in your comment] that you have stated that counters this proposition. Religion is education. It provides (educates with) narratives of intergenerational transference of mindfulness, codes of conduct(ethics and morals), signaling(social order ), tradition (strategy), and law (property rights and obligations). Some religions do this by the abrahamic method of deceit, some do it by the buddhist method, some by the hindu method(s), and some by the ancestor-worship methods. Some by simple folk rituals. Some emphasize a way of life (hinduism), some emphasize a way of thought (buddhism and stoicism), and some a ritual (shintoism), and some a cognitive fantasy (abrahamism). —“…curt…”— Psychologism is always and everywhere false. So the straw man is pointless. I am advocating for stoicism (mindfulness by self authoring), ancestor worship (thanks – we have ancestors worthy of it), and nature ‘worship'(celebration), with the ambition of transcendence of man into the gods we have designed (omnipotent, omniscient, omnirational). Not as individuals but as a collective. This provides the spectrum of personal, interpersonal, social, political, and group strategies that all of us appear to need. There is nothing in that list that is not both scientifically achievable, fulfilling of behavioral demand, and free of deceits and frauds. We know so because all of these have and do exist. So if you are invested in a lie – the answer is why? Are you human and capable of choice between truth and lie, or are you still animal and incapable of choice between truth and lie? Religion is simply education. Education in the personal, interpersonal, social, political, and strategic by ritual(repetition) practice – like every OTHER thing we learn through repetition. Like how to move our bodies, how to speak, how to socialize, how to read, do math, operate a machine, or compose works of innovative thought. I am not anti-religion. Just anti-lies. My religion is Transcendence of man into gods, by the use of Sovereignty, Truth, Duty, Charity, the Natural Law of Reciprocity and the Jury, Markets in everything, producing the most rapid calculation of, and achievement of godhood that is possible for man to perform. This religion requires training in mindfulness in the personal, interpersonal, social, political, international realms. In the physical (fitness), mental (mindfulness), social (manners, ethics, morals), calculative (3R’s), economic (job skills), political (laws), strategic (strategy). And under my method we return dominance of daily life from the State to the Church, ending the academy, and ending the Cathedral Complex. Creating a single ‘intolerante’ religion (education system). And with it, ending Abrahamism in jewish, christian, and muslim form, as well as Marxist, Postmodern, Feminist form. And with that, end this scam we call democracy which is an excuse to intermediate us from the courts as the means of resolving conflicts both private and common. And restoring rule of law, including houses for the classes to negotiate, and monarchy as judge of last resort, and a universal militia to guarantee all of the above. Period. There are a few arguments you might raise against me, but you are not able. your life consists of malinvestment in lies that produce ignorance, poverty, and dark ages, and have cost a billion lives. There is no better service we can do the world than eliminate abrahamism, for aside from the great plagues there is nothing more horrible in the experience of man. Curt Doolittle

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544796934 Timestamp) Within the subject of Face vs Truth, what is the difference between Loyalty and Duty?