Theme: Truth

  • “Most think tanks don’t do much thinking. It’s just bias promotion and propagand

    –“Most think tanks don’t do much thinking. It’s just bias promotion and propaganda. Instead, we work as a ‘decision’ tank so to speak. We seek decidability – truth. And then we suggestion options from there.”–


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-25 14:40:47 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1816483741411528809

  • “Most criticisms of objectivity fail to realize that it’s the most communal conc

    –“Most criticisms of objectivity fail to realize that it’s the most communal concept humanity has yet articulated.”– @MattPirkowski

    Well done. With elegant prose.

    Further Clarification of the Value of Objectivity:
    (a) commensurable (consistent and correspondent)
    (b) testifiable (truth, trust)
    (c) advantageous (utility)
    (d) evolutionary (adaptive)
    (e) communal (asset of the commons).

    These are the most expensive commons that any group can invest in and preserve, because human beings evolved to negotiate pragmatically not speak truthfully. And the psychological and emotional burden (cost) of truthful speech regardless of cost to one’s opportunities, self image, status, and group selfish advantage is the costly investment into the commons (assets) of a population that is possible – particularly because it is so hard to develop, and requires so few defectors to undermine.

    Cheers
    CD

    Reply addressees: @MattPirkowski


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-24 16:34:10 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1816149890243702784

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1816013572696334466

  • “[Using Big Words?] Is this what you’re saying?”– As someone who is daily accus

    –“[Using Big Words?] Is this what you’re saying?”–
    As someone who is daily accused of using “big words”, “word salad”, and “incomprehensibility”, that would hardly be the case.
    What I’m saying is that in the spectrum of precision of means of communication, argument, and persuasion, adults who are intellectually honest favor those paradigms that limit loading, framing, obscuring and fictionalism as means of suggestion deceit or fraud. In other words The theological (Abrahamic), the literary (Plato) vs the Empirical (Aristotle).
    Because the capacity for deception increases with the decrease in precision and the increase of the capacity to appeal to intuition instead of reason.

    Repeating from a post a few minutes ago:

    |Scale of Precision|: Embodiment <> (Narrative: Anthropomorphism <> Mythology <> Literature )<>( Systematizing: Theology <> Philosophy <> History )<> (Measuring: Empiricism <> Science <> Operationalism (causality)).

    In that sequence “< Easier to vs Harder to >” lie, deceive, suggest, conflate, load, frame, obscure, and fictionalize.

    It is conversely easier to communicate to those with less knowledge and ability as we move downward on the scale.

    Cheers
    CD

    Reply addressees: @ccllaazz


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-22 22:25:09 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815513439650865152

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815488774161526896

  • RE: Peterson’s Ongoing Decline 1) –“[His distractions are] esoteric but not irr

    RE: Peterson’s Ongoing Decline
    1) –“[His distractions are] esoteric but not irrelevant”–
    It’s worse than irrelevant. I assume your interpretation is due to not having experience in discussions with public intellectuals. But bringing up analogies that force the discussion partner to ignore as unworthy of adult conversation is extremely rude, because it’s asking others to descend into equally childish analogy that opens the field to inflation conflation suggestion deception and nonsense thus discrediting them. In other words, it’s baiting the opponent into hazard.
    So watch debates, and observe how others respond to Peterson’s ‘eccentricity’ (childishness) by not responding and you’ll understand. They always try to restore the framework of discourse to adult conversation. They ignore that he’s rude and childish.
    At present he’s riding entirely on his political activism and not on anything meaningful he contributes to these conversations. In other words people only talk to him for publicity purposes, not for serious discourse.
    The opportunity for suggestion and deception increases with every decine from empiricism, and decreases with every increase from empiricism.

    SCALE: Embodiment <> (Narrative: Anthropomorphism <> Mythology <> Literature )<>( Systematizing: Theology <> Philosophy <> History )<> (Measuring: Empiricism <> Science <> Operationalism (causality)).

    In that sequence “< Easier to vs Harder to >” lie, deceive, suggest, conflate, load, frame, and obscure. It is conversely easier to communicate to those with less knowledge and ability as we move downward on the scale.

    2) –“decline into his own trauma”–
    People who experience trauma sedate their capacity for stress from activation by auto-association by reframing everything into some safe narrative, limiting their need for understanding the framework of others, and decreasing the need for new learning and adaptation. Some others will attempt to push others into their frame for coercive purposes. Peterson’s experience with trauma as well as his exit from the university and his subsequent greater association with those with religious proclivities, has tilted his cognitive framework out of that of someone who merely uses the literary and experiential as a means of explaining the cognition of others to adopting it as his own means of cognition, communication, and argument – in part because of the positive feedback from crowds despite the negative feedback from intellectuals.

    Thanks
    CD

    Reply addressees: @ccllaazz


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-22 22:01:54 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815507587950948352

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815485910806675712

  • I’m sure this live event will be on peterson’s stream. Why does peterson need to

    I’m sure this live event will be on peterson’s stream.
    Why does peterson need to drag every rational adult conversation into some reference to literature, mythology, or philosophy, when he’s talking to someone like musk who is speaking in adult language about practical matters, and forcing Musk to “humor” Peterson’s distractions. In other words, he may not realize it but he’s making all conversations about himself and his decline into his own trauma instead of addressing the issue at hand. Over and over again. It’s embarassing.

    Reply addressees: @ccllaazz


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-22 20:25:37 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815483358421422080

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815479571816525972

  • Peterson is embarrassing himself in a live interview with Musk. 🙁 Peterson has

    Peterson is embarrassing himself in a live interview with Musk. 🙁

    Peterson has gone over to the spiritual and literary side so far that he has lost his previous ability to use the spiritual and literary for the purpose of therapy in material reality, and become yet another…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-22 19:44:21 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815472973274595771

  • RT @NoahRevoy: Many so-called “think tanks” do very little thinking and a lot of

    RT @NoahRevoy: Many so-called “think tanks” do very little thinking and a lot of emoting and story-telling. They are not focused on finding…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-22 16:22:31 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815422180940718544

  • “It’s necessary for those to act by sovereignty, reciprocity, duty, truth, and b

    –“It’s necessary for those to act by sovereignty, reciprocity, duty, truth, and beauty, to eliminate those from the polity who are unwilling and unable to do so.”–


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-20 17:48:24 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814719020219711730

  • RT @WalterIII: @EricRWeinstein “The entire purpose of the postmodern movement wi

    RT @WalterIII: @EricRWeinstein “The entire purpose of the postmodern movement within the marxist-to-woke spectrum was to generate relativis…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-19 16:04:44 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814330542252302571

  • I don’t recognize his name. I don’t see an analytic argument from either of you.

    I don’t recognize his name. I don’t see an analytic argument from either of you. I do see you said “Every society that was overrun by totalitarians has always voiced classical liberal principles as its call.” which is overwhelmingly false.

    I think I might help you both with a bit of history and a problem man encounters:
    1. the early agrarian civilizations produced sedentary life and reduced dependence upon one another that had been necessary as hunter gatherers. 2. The bronze age civilizations that first formed cities produced divisions of labor, class hierarchies, elites, and authoritarianism for the first time 3. Those caused the need for religious order to create standards by which people cooperated. 4. Those early civs rose and fell a wave after wave of barbarians tried to conquer those cities and civilizations to capture control of the government because the government controlled the means of production. The bonze age collapse was the result of one of those sets of barbarians (europeans). 5. When trade was reestablished after the bronze age collapse, and the greeks established their empire to insure that trade, they invented money. Money further eradicated interpersonal dependency, interpersonal relationships. 6. In response we found the age of gransformation, meaning the age of new religions creating a standard of behavior for cooperation between many divergent groups, so that the scale of our prosperity from trade, and the accumulated alienation of 1-5, could be moderated. This is why most of those religions are a form of sedation against alienation (they create mindfulness). 7. While we should have hit the industrial revolution about the year 300 to 600, the great migrations and the cancer of the abrahamic religions, by suppression of alienation, in turn, suppressed the spread of reason, empiricism, technology, and political order, creating a dark age. 8. Once again, it was europeans who caused the reformation, when they recovered classical knowledge and gradually created the empirical, commercial, financial, trade, scientific, and finally industrial revolutions. Yet this resulted in another episode of alienation. And yet again the marxist attempt to modernize the abrahamic religions from supernatural into pseudoscientific form nearly created another dark age, that thankfully europeans and sciences have begun to resist despite it’s popularity with women, immigrants, lower classes, and the academic cum political priesthoods. 9. Immigration – which is as bad as conquest when it creates diviersity especially diversity between groups with different genetic, religious, political, economic, and cultural differences. It destroys the capacity for a high trust polity that most produces mindfulness.

    The Lesson: the problem we face in our evolutionary process is creating deliberate institutions of cultural formation to train ourselves into adapting to every increase in the scale of energy capture and conversion. Thus it is a problem of institutions and knowledge and not a problem of institutions and anti-knowledge. So innovation and creativity in institutional development are the solution to the problem of ever expanding alienation. We must move from natural forces causing us to work together in bands and tribes, to deliberate engineering our incentives to work together in the absence of those natural incentives.

    Simple folk try regression. Not so simple folk try innovation. Because the result of regression. whether supernatural religion, pseudoscientific economics and politics, the result is the same: dark ages of ignorance, poverty, hard labor, starvation, disease, suffering, child mortality, and early death.

    There have been only a few great periods in human history and they are the Pax Romana, The Pax Britannia, and the Pax Americana.

    That’s the lesson we must learn from history.

    End the left’s lies forever whether sophistic, pseudoscientific, or supernatural, BUT heavily invest in mindfulness, fitness, education, and socialization in order to make each leap in our standard of living possible.

    The uncomfortable lesson is that of the Greeks’ and Taleb’s: you teach people to harden, not to soften. In other words supportive competition is the means of mindfulness – it is not withdrawal, escapism, and illusion.

    Cheers

    Reply addressees: @ooana


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-19 01:26:45 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814109590419873792

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814093332647199222