Theme: Truth

  • Justificadtion (pilpul = abrahamic method of lying). We rely on science, logic,

    Justificadtion (pilpul = abrahamic method of lying).
    We rely on science, logic, reason, which rrequires operational argument, which denies deception by conflation, inflation, and obscurantism, to deceive by suggestion. Yet, the abrahamic religions are desiged to use the female method of lying by suggestion using seduction and baiting into hazard of their seduction. Just a mother baits calm and safety in her children to keep them under control, islam baits calm and safety in the failtful to keep them under control. However, this technique is only useful if the next moment the child goes once again into the fray, and eventually overcomes his ‘mindlessness’ but action victory and adaptation rather than submission to feminine sedation.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-03 16:40:50 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1631696141908692992

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  • It doesn’t say how. It’s a false promise. A pretense. Grammar provides rules by

    It doesn’t say how. It’s a false promise. A pretense.
    Grammar provides rules by which we disambiguate sequences of phonemes into words phrases and sentences (transactions) sufficiently to convey unambiguous meaning within the broader context of the discourse.

    So grammar is used for (a) disambiguation (b) model formation (c) predicting testing (falsification) in that order. And Q&A for further recursive disambiguation until sufficiently unambiguous decidability is achieved by determination of possibility(truth) or impossibility (falsehood).

    I’m kind of wondering if you’ve done any computer or AI work yourself because this is pretty basic nonsense there. I’m just adding neurologically what happens and in what sequence.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-02 21:46:26 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1631410659651878912

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  • I can’t figure out what TTM’s trying to argue because he keeps suggesting rather

    I can’t figure out what TTM’s trying to argue because he keeps suggesting rather than explaining his way into it. This might help with people who don’t know better, but we specialize in language, logics, grammars, and especially the grammars of falsehood and lying.

    So we already know what we’re talking about. What we need is a theory to test. And so far all we’ve seen is postmodern neologism to claim differences that don’t exist, novelties that don’t exist, and so far it’s just another language game.

    So, what’s the theory?

    There is absolutely zero chance I won’t understand it. That might sound ostentatious but it’s just a painful truth. I know my domains of ignorance because they are my domains of disinterest. But epistemically, I don’t think there is anyone on the planet even close.
    And that’s a bad thing. ‘Cause it’s one of the reasons we are where we are.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-02 20:45:02 UTC

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  • “Believable outputs are not believable because their contents are true of factua

    -“Believable outputs are not believable because their contents are true of factual. They are believable because they emulate grammar”–

    Trying to science that:

    The contents of speech or written speech is perceived as non-predictive (false) because of not surviving tests of consistency (inconsistency of), or possibly-true because of survival of consistency of: predictions from identity, consistency, possibility, correspondence, rationality, reciprocity, or coherence against existing episodic memory.

    The contents of speech or written speech are perceived as:
    False, because the sequence of phonemes or words produces continuous recursive disambiguation insufficient for survival (as above)
    Or;
    Possibly true, because the sequence of phonemes or words produces continuous recursive disambiguation sufficient for survival (as above).

    The brain predicts consistency. That’s all it does. From the cells at the back of our eyes, to the visual cortex, through disambiguation by the dorsal and lateral cortex, into the hippocampal system of episodic formation, to the auto-association of prior episodes, and the competitive sequences of those episodes, to the most concentrated effort of the frontal cortex to direct recursive searching, stacking the process as open pathways, and then directing attention to competing pathways, until we succeed or fail and start over at some point again.

    So translating (sciencing):

    -“They are believable because they emulate grammar”-

    I can guess, is attempting to mean, that grammar( rules of continuous recursive disambiguation in a language and its paradigms, vocabulary and logic) …. what?

    In the context of LLM’s that MIGHT mean that the marginal difference between sentence compositions will tend toward marginally indifferent framing. Those marginally indifferent framing that tend to converge together function as an adversarial system of competition for identity, consistency, coherence, etc?

    Assuming the majority of marginally indifferent sentence compositions produce a probability distribution, then the marginally DIFFERENT sentence compositions contain associations that provide a domain of relations where we might investigate error (and tune the results).

    This means the human composers of the source speech and text have determined a minimum disambiguation necessary for unambiguous communication at least within a given context.

    This doesn’t tell us that the humans are lying, and often the majority are lying, or otherwise engaged in ignorance, error, bias, and deciet. Which is why the source data is limited.

    So AFAIK, by the ‘gammar’ doesn’t tell us much.

    -FIN-


    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-02 20:27:50 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1631390883181371395

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  • Yes well, we have known each other for years. And we know that very few people a

    Yes well, we have known each other for years. And we know that very few people are not bots that are prisoners of a web of error. So when you hit it out of the park, it isn’t clear that they see the ball, can chase it, can catch it, or can hold it if they catch it, or can use it to pass to a baseman if they could hold it. 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-02 18:20:34 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1631358851566952452

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  • And in every field, we call that innumeracy. And in my field we call fictionalis

    And in every field, we call that innumeracy. And in my field we call fictionalism, and fictionalism as a subcategory of ignorance, error, bias, and deceit. 😉
    Perhaps you should study the limits of mathematics (statistics,), and the necessity of operationalism(computation, cause,…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-02 17:28:45 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1631345815095582746

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  • If you can’t describe a term in operational (computational) terms, you can’t dem

    If you can’t describe a term in operational (computational) terms, you can’t demonstrate you comprehend it, and aren’t engaging in the pretense of knowledge, or inflation, conflation, obscurantism, or deceit.

    You are using ’cause’ which may cause an effect as different from ‘information’ which may not.

    In other words, there is a difference between information and amplitude necessary to change state.

    This applies in digital, analog, operational, set, and linguistic contexts.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-02 17:26:20 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1631345203519922202

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  • THE ERRORS OF PHILOSOPHY AND THEIR CORRECTION (this is far deeper than first imp

    THE ERRORS OF PHILOSOPHY AND THEIR CORRECTION
    (this is far deeper than first impressions might suggest)

    In this conversation, you have a tendency to use analogy as a tool of conflation, to convert from physical to verbal frames to evade causal relations claim relations and dependencies that do not follow.

    This is only possible if you learn set reasoning (verbal, legal, scriptural, mythic) instead of causal (operational, empirical, scientific).

    There are reasons to rely on such associations for the purpose of creating loose analogies so that the audience might grasp an otherwise tenuous pattern.

    But just as justification and induction are useful only for such purposes, and operation and falsification are only useful for truth propositions, when you try to argue a truth proposition from an analogy you are engaging in sophistry, not reasoning, argument, or testimony (truth).

    So in this context, external information can exist. Through sense perception that information can influence internal information. Our brains conduct an adversarial competition for successful prediction recursively across an ever-expanding time horizon to the limit of the individual’s knowledge and intelligence.

    The individual then, choosing from this adversarial competition’s set of opportunities, solutions, and risks, and irrelevancies, may release those actions that were calculated along with them, depending upon their amplitude, will be involuntary and reactive to voluntary and persistent (being burned or hurt, to deeply considering to exhaustively computing).

    So the individual’s sentience, consciousness, agency, rational choice, free will, and are simply categories of states or conditions along that sequential process of continuous recursive perception thru action (where inaction is also an action.)
    … sentience=external awareness,
    … consciousness=self awareness,
    … agency=opportunity awareness,
    … rational choice=valuative awareness,
    … free will=moral awareness.

    The fact that ‘philosophy was the best we could do in an age of ignorance’ does not impose limits on ‘science that is the best that we can do in the absence of prior ignorance’.

    It’s for these reasons I argue to study cog sci, behavioral econ, political econ, law and computation instead of philosophy which is either proto-scientific in the case of natural philosophy, or fantasy moral literature otherwise.

    However I recognize that few of us are capable of the time investment and comprehension of that spectrum of scientific disciplines necessary to explain the ‘science’ and ’cause’ of human experience, so I also accept that until there is a ‘philosophical narrative’ that reduces that scientific complexity to a work of sufficient generalization that it can function via simplicity in the service of that human need for understanding, that people will use the ‘fantasy literature’ version of science we call philosophy, just as people still rely on the ‘supernatural’ literature we call religion and theology for the same reason.

    So we see and require:
    Easy Fairy Tales Myths and Parables > Simple emotional religion > more difficult rational philosophy > more difficult empirical sciences > universal narrative computational explanation.

    Now you don’t know this but my work (our group’s work) is in producing that universal narrative explanation so that it should be possible to teach the ‘science’ of all of human existence, unifying the sciences, in a foundational form, as a constructive falsificationary paradigm, vocabulary, and logic that will be about as difficult as Newtonian physics and can be taught incrementally from childhood just as reading, writing, grammar, and mathematics.

    There is one very simple law and logic to the universe, and we need only understand it’s application in the hierarchy of existential contexts to explain all human existence at all human scales. From there, each discipline can be explored when one’s interests or needs exceed human scale.

    – Cheers


    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-02 14:59:27 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1631308240255320066

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  • How does that differ from ripples on a lake, rolling bones, reading entrails, ta

    How does that differ from ripples on a lake, rolling bones, reading entrails, tarot cards, astrology, scripture, theology, philosophy, pseudoscience, essay, opinion, gossip et al? LLM is just predicting from existing compositions of words, so it’s a sophisticated search engine…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-02 04:01:19 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1631142617521045504

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  • Destiny is quick on his feed, well spoken, but his technique (sophistry), toggli

    Destiny is quick on his feed, well spoken, but his technique (sophistry), toggling between true, preference, opinion, and overtalking make debating him for other than clicks a waste of time. You spend so much time and effort falsifying such people’s arguments, and they just shift and throw more spaghetti at the wall. So all you really do is give them a platform to sperg nonsense from.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-01 23:54:35 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1631080522330849282

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