[W]e make the mistake that norms are in fact moral when they may in fact not be. We call norms moral just like we call legislation law. But norms may or may not be decidably moral and legislation and regulation may or may not be decidably law. So positive normative moral pretenses, and negative objective moral prohibitions are very different things. We may not be able to say what is best but we can say what is worst. This is the purpose of all natural law: prohibition. We spend most of our energies trying to rally numbers to different causes, so that we obtain the discounts of may hands making light work for large numbers. But we may rally to any cause one or another. At every given time there is a market for causes to rally in favor of. However, when we say something is moral or immoral, it is not because of the positive ends it achieves, but because it is not a violation of moral limitations. When you say “my portfolio of reproductive interests consists of set X, and your productive portfolio consists of set Y”, that means only that we cannot impose a POSITIVE demand on either person. We can only impose a NEGATIVE limit on both, so that they must trade to obtain what it is that they wish. Evolutionary strategies are not equal but that does not mean that they are not compatible. They are compatible through compromise, not perfection. We seem to evolve toward nash equilibrium in everything we do. This serves evolution as well, since it shuts out the bottom. So it’s true that morality is objective and universal. the problem is that objective and universal morality simply LIMITS what we can demand from each other while preserving cooperation. It does not tell us what is good and we should do, only what is bad and we should not do. That leaves exchange open to choose what is good for all as long as it is bad for none. Curt Doolittle The Propertarian Institute
Theme: Truth
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NO. MORALITY IS OBJECTIVE. IT’S JUST PROSCRIPTIVE(negative) NOT PRESCRIPTIVE(pos
NO. MORALITY IS OBJECTIVE. IT’S JUST PROSCRIPTIVE(negative) NOT PRESCRIPTIVE(positive).
We make the mistake that norms are in fact moral when they may in fact not be. We call norms moral just like we call legislation law. But norms may or may not be decidably moral and legislation and regulation may or may not be decidably law.
So positive normative moral pretenses, and negative objective moral prohibitions are very different things. We may not be able to say what is best but we can say what is worst. This is the purpose of all natural law: prohibition.
We spend most of our energies trying to rally numbers to different causes, so that we obtain the discounts of may hands making light work for large numbers. But we may rally to any cause one or another. At every given time there is a market for causes to rally in favor of.
However, when we say something is moral or immoral, it is not because of the positive ends it achieves, but because it is not a violation of moral limitations.
When you say “my portfolio of reproductive interests consists of set X, and your productive portfolio consists of set Y”, that means only that we cannot impose a POSITIVE demand on either person. We can only impose a NEGATIVE limit on both, so that they must trade to obtain what it is that they wish.
Evolutionary strategies are not equal but that does not mean that they are not compatible. They are compatible through compromise, not perfection. We seem to evolve toward nash equilibrium in everything we do. This serves evolution as well, since it shuts out the bottom.
So it’s true that morality is objective and universal. the problem is that objective and universal morality simply LIMITS what we can demand from each other while preserving cooperation.
It does not tell us what is good and we should do, only what is bad and we should not do.
That leaves exchange open to choose what is good for all as long as it is bad for none.
Curt Doolittle
The Propertarian Institute
Source date (UTC): 2016-09-10 06:20:00 UTC
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error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, obscurantism, pseudoscience, overload
error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, obscurantism, pseudoscience, overloading, propaganda, deception.
murder, harm, damage, theft, fraud, fraud by omission, fraud by indirection, free riding, socialization of losses, privatization of commons, rent seeking, monopoly seeking, conspiracy, statism/corporatism, conversion(religion/pseudoscience), displacement(immigration/overbreeding), conquest (war).
Aryanism > Christianity > Puritan Liberalism > Expansion/Colonialism > Hemispheric Colonialism > Liberalism > Anti-Communism > Social Democratic Consumer Capitalism > Neo-Conservatism
Source date (UTC): 2016-09-08 15:17:00 UTC
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TRUTH SPECTRUM
TRUTH SPECTRUM
Source date (UTC): 2016-09-07 02:26:00 UTC
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As far as I understand a concept refers to a general rule or theory, that consis
As far as I understand a concept refers to a general rule or theory, that consists of a set of properties that together correspond to a set of referents, the properties of which vary from existential, to experiential, to imaginary.
And this definition survives physical correspondence in the brain, verbal description using language, and what we can imagine in real time.
Source date (UTC): 2016-09-06 12:38:00 UTC
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Are you rationalizing? Are you sure it’s not possible? Are you sure it’s to prom
Are you rationalizing? Are you sure it’s not possible? Are you sure it’s to promote a path to truth?
Source date (UTC): 2016-09-06 12:35:26 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/773137532062162944
Reply addressees: @cg_mischling
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/773131643091509248
IN REPLY TO:
@cg_mischling
@curtdoolittle get mass media. Just seems lying is a neutral trait. Lies are used to promote truth or path toward truth. Dialectics I guess.
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/773131643091509248
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with the 20th century we see the industrialization of lying impossible to suppre
with the 20th century we see the industrialization of lying impossible to suppress by peerage.
Source date (UTC): 2016-09-06 11:43:21 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/773124425415856128
Reply addressees: @cg_mischling
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/773122803792961539
IN REPLY TO:
@cg_mischling
@curtdoolittle good point. It seems through that transmutation of lying is the result of some form of transcendental or at least metaphysics
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/773122803792961539
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The reason we have free rather than truthful speech is historical. Martial punis
The reason we have free rather than truthful speech is historical. Martial punishment, Germanic oath, duel, church.
Source date (UTC): 2016-09-06 11:42:42 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/773124262995656705
Reply addressees: @cg_mischling
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/773122803792961539
IN REPLY TO:
@cg_mischling
@curtdoolittle good point. It seems through that transmutation of lying is the result of some form of transcendental or at least metaphysics
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/773122803792961539
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Free riding, fraud, theft, rape, harm, torture, murder, war are also innate. We
Free riding, fraud, theft, rape, harm, torture, murder, war are also innate. We suppress them. Why not error, bias, deceit?
Source date (UTC): 2016-09-06 11:31:47 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/773121512916353026
Reply addressees: @cg_mischling
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/773118101109866496
IN REPLY TO:
@cg_mischling
@curtdoolittle mendacity is ingrained. Try to remove it will result in something worse and probably something unexpectedly so.
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/773118101109866496
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We can domesticate the academy and state by demanding truthfulness. We can resto
We can domesticate the academy and state by demanding truthfulness. We can restore the west to our Oath: Tell the whole truth; do not steal.
Source date (UTC): 2016-09-06 10:05:25 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/773099780801196032