Theme: Religion

  • Grokking a Frame of Argument.

    October 26th, 2018 10:31 AM GROKKING “ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN” FRAME OF ARGUMENT.

    —“( When we say ‘Tradition’ we are using it as a noun, a synonym to ‘Perennial Wisdom’) – a metaphysical claim to Truth. See: Perennial philosophy – Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy Specifically of the Traditionalist School (which purges the New Agey bs) See: Traditionalist School – Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_School )”— Elders of the Black Sun 3

    [S]o you mean Wisdom (evidence of survival in use of prolongation of a group evolutionary strategy: ie Peterson’s ‘Darwinian Truth’ ) as an equivalent to Truth (testimony that is consistent, correspondent, coherent, operational, existentially possible, complete), independent of preference or good. And you mean Wisdom Literature rather than Scientific (Correspondent) Description. And which Tradition are you referring to? French, Authoritarian, Supernatural, or Anglo, Contractual, Real? I think you mean French, Authoritarian, Universal, and Supernatural, or the German restatement of Authoritarian, National, and Ideal(imaginary). But you don’t mean Anglo, Contractual, and Real (Science). Ok… so yes, you are speaking in Postmodern (anti-scientific, anti-real, anti-darwinian) school of the French and Italian catholic reformists: Traditionalist School. And, yes, you are relying on Perennialism (universalism, and eternalism of the content of the wisdom literature developed under agrarianism and pastoralism, but abandoned under industrialism.) So, Continental (Secular Catholic), Postmodern (anti-realist, anti-scientific), literature and intutionism (anti-calculation). And yes, this is the secularization of catholic authoritarian conformity of the laboring classes who cannot afford to learn, or are unable to learn, and then make use of calculation and computation for the purpose of competitive evolution, and so rely on sentimental stagnation as a resistance movement. Ok. I think I get it. Well, what I really like is the depth you’re going into. Good work.

  • Occult: It’s cool, it’s hip, and it’s accessible.

    October 26th, 2018 4:17 PM

    —“Can someone please explain to me why this occult shit is so attractive? I mean, it’s like reading fantasy fiction for the politically frustrated?”— Curt Doolittle

    by Goran Dahl It’s cool, it’s hip, and it’s accessible. You read something like Metaphysics of War, and it’s not that different from The Fellowship of the Ring. Same beautifully constructed sentences, full of poetic words, riddled with lofty nouns that are inevitably capitalized like the philosophical texts of old. One of my favourites is when they capitalize Truth (whatever the fuck that’s supposed to mean). Who the fuck wants to read this “operational”, “via negativa” garbage, whatever that is? It all looks like computer code to me and that stuff is for nerds, right? These kids grew up with this stuff, this poison from Arktos and Counter-Currents. And what’s more, they will never, for the life of them, consider that maybe – just maybe – they shouldn’t trust these jesters and their sources, all of which are rooted in religious texts. You see, atheism or even agnosticism, those aren’t options; those are the tools of the Left. Surely, we cannot espouse the opinions of the Left, so instead, we will regress further and further and become ever more backward until this vile, leftist materialism and its child, despicable Science, are utterly obliterated and replaced with a spiritually transcendent society, which will be guided by religious texts, “perennial truths”, that were totally not written by fools and deceptive human beings, but instead written by people possessed by powerful, metaphysical forces, the names of which are once again capitalized for effect and this perverted stack of lies continues getting higher and higher and higher..

    —“That is the best explanation anyone has ever given me: Fantasy Fiction. Thank you.”— Curt Doolittle

  • Grokking a Frame of Argument.

    October 26th, 2018 10:31 AM GROKKING “ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN” FRAME OF ARGUMENT.

    —“( When we say ‘Tradition’ we are using it as a noun, a synonym to ‘Perennial Wisdom’) – a metaphysical claim to Truth. See: Perennial philosophy – Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy Specifically of the Traditionalist School (which purges the New Agey bs) See: Traditionalist School – Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_School )”— Elders of the Black Sun 3

    [S]o you mean Wisdom (evidence of survival in use of prolongation of a group evolutionary strategy: ie Peterson’s ‘Darwinian Truth’ ) as an equivalent to Truth (testimony that is consistent, correspondent, coherent, operational, existentially possible, complete), independent of preference or good. And you mean Wisdom Literature rather than Scientific (Correspondent) Description. And which Tradition are you referring to? French, Authoritarian, Supernatural, or Anglo, Contractual, Real? I think you mean French, Authoritarian, Universal, and Supernatural, or the German restatement of Authoritarian, National, and Ideal(imaginary). But you don’t mean Anglo, Contractual, and Real (Science). Ok… so yes, you are speaking in Postmodern (anti-scientific, anti-real, anti-darwinian) school of the French and Italian catholic reformists: Traditionalist School. And, yes, you are relying on Perennialism (universalism, and eternalism of the content of the wisdom literature developed under agrarianism and pastoralism, but abandoned under industrialism.) So, Continental (Secular Catholic), Postmodern (anti-realist, anti-scientific), literature and intutionism (anti-calculation). And yes, this is the secularization of catholic authoritarian conformity of the laboring classes who cannot afford to learn, or are unable to learn, and then make use of calculation and computation for the purpose of competitive evolution, and so rely on sentimental stagnation as a resistance movement. Ok. I think I get it. Well, what I really like is the depth you’re going into. Good work.

  • “Can someone please explain to me why this occult shit is so attractive? I mean,

    —“Can someone please explain to me why this occult shit is so attractive? I mean, it’s like reading fantasy fiction for the politically frustrated?”— Curt Doolittle

    by Göran Dahl

    It’s cool, it’s hip, and it’s accessible. You read something like Metaphysics of War, and it’s not that different from The Fellowship of the Ring. Same beautifully constructed sentences, full of poetic words, riddled with lofty nouns that are inevitably capitalized like the philosophical texts of old.

    One of my favourites is when they capitalize Truth (whatever the fuck that’s supposed to mean). Who the fuck wants to read this “operational”, “via negativa” garbage, whatever that is? It all looks like computer code to me and that stuff is for nerds, right?

    These kids grew up with this stuff, this poison from Arktos and Counter-Currents. And what’s more, they will never, for the life of them, consider that maybe – just maybe – they shouldn’t trust these jesters and their sources, all of which are rooted in religious texts.

    You see, atheism or even agnosticism, those aren’t options; those are the tools of the Left. Surely, we cannot espouse the opinions of the Left, so instead, we will regress further and further and become ever more backward until this vile, leftist materialism and its child, despicable Science, are utterly obliterated and replaced with a spiritually transcendent society, which will be guided by religious texts, “perennial truths”, that were totally not written by fools and deceptive human beings, but instead written by people possessed by powerful, metaphysical forces, the names of which are once again capitalized for effect and this perverted stack of lies continues getting higher and higher and higher..

    —“That is the best explanation anyone has ever given me: Fantasy Fiction. Thank you.”— Curt Doolittle


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-26 16:17:00 UTC

  • GROKKING “ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN” FRAME OF ARGUMENT. —“( When we say ‘Traditi

    GROKKING “ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN” FRAME OF ARGUMENT.

    —“(

    When we say ‘Tradition’ we are using it as a noun, a synonym to ‘Perennial Wisdom’) – a metaphysical claim to Truth.

    See: Perennial philosophy – Wikipedia

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy

    Specifically of the Traditionalist School (which purges the New Agey bs)

    See: Traditionalist School – Wikipedia

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_School

    )”— Elders of the Black Sun 3

    So you mean Wisdom (evidence of survival in use of prolongation of a group evolutionary strategy: ie Peterson’s ‘Darwinian Truth’ ) as an equivalent to Truth (testimony that is consistent, correspondent, coherent, operational, existentially possible, complete), independent of preference or good. And you mean Wisdom Literature rather than Scientific (Correspondent) Description.

    And which Tradition are you referring to? French, Authoritarian, Supernatural, or Anglo, Contractual, Real?

    I think you mean French, Authoritarian, Universal, and Supernatural, or the German restatement of Authoritarian, National, and Ideal(imaginary). But you don’t mean Anglo, Contractual, and Real (Science).

    Ok… so yes, you are speaking in Postmodern (anti-scientific, anti-real, anti-darwinian) school of the French and Italian catholic reformists: Traditionalist School.

    And, yes, you are relying on Perennialism (universalism, and eternalism of the content of the wisdom literature developed under agrarianism and pastoralism, but abandoned under industrialism.)

    So, Continental (Secular Catholic), Postmodern (anti-realist, anti-scientific), literature and intutionism (anti-calculation).

    And yes, this is the secularization of catholic authoritarian conformity of the laboring classes who cannot afford to learn, or are unable to learn, and then make use of calculation and computation for the purpose of competitive evolution, and so rely on sentimental stagnation as a resistance movement.

    Ok. I think I get it.

    Well, what I really like is the depth you’re going into. Good work.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-26 10:31:00 UTC

  • (e) There is no other reason to do so – which is why Abrahamic Theology, Platoni

    (e) There is no other reason to do so – which is why Abrahamic Theology, Platonic(literary) philosophy, their conflation in the medieval era, and continental reconstruction after anglo empirical falsification of it, was constructed.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 22:21:54 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055585269964029953

    Reply addressees: @PhilosophyCuck @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055565599517167618


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Jonas_Ceika

    @curtdoolittle @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN So are you saying that rigorously interpreting a text is by definition pilpul and therefore bad? How do you read philosophy then?

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055565599517167618

  • (d) the reason to write philosophy and theology is precisely to avoid math, logi

    (d) the reason to write philosophy and theology is precisely to avoid math, logic, science, economics, law, biography, and history. …


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 22:20:42 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055584967760187392

    Reply addressees: @PhilosophyCuck @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055565599517167618


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Jonas_Ceika

    @curtdoolittle @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN So are you saying that rigorously interpreting a text is by definition pilpul and therefore bad? How do you read philosophy then?

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055565599517167618

  • (a) Is that what I am saying? And (b) Why would anyone read either theology or p

    (a) Is that what I am saying? And (b) Why would anyone read either theology or philosophy in the age of math, logic, sciences, economics, law, history, and literature – each of which is less vulnerable to fraud and confirmation bias, than sophism (philosophy) and magic(theology)?


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 22:16:22 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055583878067482624

    Reply addressees: @PhilosophyCuck @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055565599517167618


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Jonas_Ceika

    @curtdoolittle @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN So are you saying that rigorously interpreting a text is by definition pilpul and therefore bad? How do you read philosophy then?

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055565599517167618

  • Cont. 2) And that just as Semitic Theology was a counter-enlightenment against A

    Cont. 2) And that just as Semitic Theology was a counter-enlightenment against Aristotelian thought, Continental was against Anglo, and Marxist,Postmodernist,Feminist a counter-enlightenment against Poincare, Maxwell, Darwin, Menger, Spencer and Nietzsche’s scientific revolution.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 21:08:51 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055566885062877185

    Reply addressees: @PhilosophyCuck @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055556675585875968


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Jonas_Ceika

    @MrKennan1948 @curtdoolittle @WorMartiN The language is very familiar to me. What confuses me is the fact that it’s completely detached from any of my criticisms on the topic.

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055556675585875968

  • “Face Among the Arabs”

    October 25th, 2018 12:10 PM SO, ARAB (AND BY PROX MUSLIM) ‘DIGNITY’ (SELF) VS WESTERN ‘REPUTATION’ (OTHERS) For those of you who have read this: “FACE AMONG THE ARABS” https://www.facebook.com/curt.doolittle/posts/10156731036117264 [T]his means ‘dignity’ as ‘given’ rather than ‘respect’ as “earned’ is not unique to Arab (semitic in general) civilizations. But most common there. And it is encoded in the Muslim Religion as all men are due dignity rather than all men must earn respect by their words and deeds. This ‘face’ is different from east asian face (harmony) and different from western face (truth regardless of consequences). I am not sure how to categorize Indian civilization yet within this context, but it appears closer to western and asian than semitic. And for those of you who understand this: —“The west differs from the rest in that we must demonstrate honor by speaking the truth no matter the consequences to the dominance dominance hierarchy, including our own.”— This statement is in fact the uniqueness of western civilization from which all our reason, law, science, technology, and economic superiority evolved. This ONE BEHAVIOR is the secret to western civilization. So, these two systems (western and semitic) are why our civilizations, especially given that most muslims are relatively poor and underclass, and most christians are relatively wealthy by comparison and middle class – are signal-and-norm incompatible. In this sense the muslim INTOLERANCE is greater (and more successful) than the western level of intolerance, even though the OUTCOME of western intolerance (reinforced by our law demanding truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, regardless of consequences to our reputations and those of others) is far superior to the muslim demand for ‘respect unearned’ (dignity). Because we domesticate the lower classes of man (the animal man so to speak) by signals (status signals) including demonstrations of ridicule, shame, ignoring them, disapproval, removal of opportunity, and punishment, by CONSTANT TRUTH AND MERIT TESTING, that is a threat do the Semitic and by extension Muslim sense of self worth. Hence why we are incompatible and we must suppress the primitive law (competitor to law) and suppress the primitive norms (competitors to our norms) in order to preserve the economic velocity that both the underclasses and the middle classes and (the extortive) upper classes depend upon.