Theme: Religion

  • FAITH Faith is a fairly easy thing to explain. In other words we know what cause

    FAITH

    Faith is a fairly easy thing to explain. In other words we know what causes the feeling we call ‘spirituality’ and why it’s so influential to some and not at all to others. But we can’t introspect into it. So you can’t introspect into how you raise your arm. And you can’t introspect into the feeling you get from faith, but that doesn’t mean we cant explain how you raise your arm (I certainly can) or that we can’t explain the feeling of faith (I certainly can). It’s that the ‘magic’ is due to our inability to introspectively analyze it. There are some tricks we can use (visual illusions) to experiment with vision. There are similar tricks for spirituality. The feeling is not complicated. The free association we can conduct in that state is not complicated. And mastering the ability to freely associate emotionally by repetitive practice is not complicated. So whether you specialize in pre-rational emotion, pre-rational intuition, physical performance, or rational thought, or rational calculation, is just a matter of your ability and interest. And your developmental arc since that series is simply the developmental hierarchy. And just as there are many fragile points in your sexual development there are many fragile points in your social development there are also many fragile points in your cognitive development, and some of us are biased to the sensory, to the motor, to the social, to the verbal rational, and some to the calculative spatial.

    It’s not that faith isn’t an excellent way of developing mindfulness by supplying your own sedation. It’s not that the buddhist meditation and philosophy isn’t. Or the stoic. It’s that there are consequences (costs) for each of those methods and only the stoic produces your adaptation rather than avoidance.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-14 21:29:00 UTC

  • DISAMBIGUATION OF CAUSALITY IN RELIGIOSITY Three axis of Causality in Religion v

    DISAMBIGUATION OF CAUSALITY IN RELIGIOSITY

    Three axis of Causality in Religion vs Science. 1) Intelligence, 2) Empathizing vs Systematizing. 3) Degree of familial indoctrination in Religion vs Science.

    So The demarcation isn’t just IQ, but IQ and the Competition between Feminine Feeling vs Masculine Thinking. I was raised very catholic it simply ‘lost’ the battle just like religion won the battle for others – and everyone else somewhere in between.

    Yet among they thought leaders here, most of us have a religious background and far more people than you’d think have studied religion, or considered a religious career.

    So I don’t see a difference in our objectives, just means of achieving the masculine or feminine distribution.

    And the Pagan is definitely masculine – extremely and unapologetically, and some of us ‘feel’ the masculine not the feminine. Conversely Atheism is definitely a feminine cognitive expression.

    So as in nearly all our differences in understanding of the world, the question of religiosity is largely genetic and less so environmental, and the genetic difference is explicable as differences in one of the only substantial variables in the human brain: gender dimorphism.

    — Working On This —

    (Female)

    Reactionary Atheism (preference, monopoly)

    -v-

    Resistant Agnosticism (truth, markets)

    (Male)


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-14 09:07:00 UTC

  • UN-IDENTICAL BUT COMPATIBLE: RELIGION AND NATURAL LAW by Martin Štěpán If your f

    UN-IDENTICAL BUT COMPATIBLE: RELIGION AND NATURAL LAW

    by Martin Štěpán

    If your faith helps you behave according to natural law, whether your pantheon is Zeus/Jupiter and his family or Odin/Wodan and the Æsir or the Trinity, Mary and the saints, I will absolutely support it.

    But I’m unable to believe it even if I wanted to. Those of us significantly higher in systematizing than empathizing hardly ever can. But I can believe in natural law in itself because I see evidence of it all around me. That’s what I attribute all the beauty of creation to.

    And we both agree that our actions in this life will have consequences in the next. For believers, it might be the afterlife or reincarnation, for me, it will be the lives of my descendants, whereas I would consider each of my children half myself.

    Whichever you believe, or even if you believe neither, rule of law will incentivize the same behavior even without belief by ensuring that breaking the law won’t have consequences only in the next life but also in this one.

    Even the most extreme nihilists believe in pain. And it is the only way we can prevent ourselves from being the cause our end times and push them to the physical limits of our Universe.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-13 10:34:00 UTC

  • WESTERN MAN’S UNIQUENESS IN PURPOSE: RAISED TO RULE Let me put it in perspective

    WESTERN MAN’S UNIQUENESS IN PURPOSE: RAISED TO RULE

    Let me put it in perspective, white people, our fairy tales, our myths, our religion, our education – we were brought up to rule. Ourselves, our families, our polities, our nations and the world. This is what the rest of the world cannot grasp, and what the underclasses cannot achieve. Our civilization evolved for the continuous production of agency – we were all brought up to be princes and princesses – to rule. An aristocracy of everyone capable of joining the aristocracy. and the paternal rule of those who are not.

    I have been complaining about the anglo seizure of power by the middle class, and the american attempt to create an aristocracy of everyone. But the western man has been trying to create an aristocracy of everyone since we first put horse to wheel.

    The problem is that loosened the requirements for the demonstration of agency – one’s ability to rule one’s self ,one’s family, on’s business, one’s polity, one’s nation.

    And we failed to create additional houses for the classes that did demonstrate ability as they evolved education and limited agency.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 21:02:00 UTC

  • THE INQUISITION, THE CHURCH, IN CONTEXT. The purpose of the inquisition was: …

    THE INQUISITION, THE CHURCH, IN CONTEXT.

    The purpose of the inquisition was:

    … 1) to suppress factions (heresy) that would have weakened the church’s income (they were crooks), their political power, and the church’s ambition to take over as the central government of Europe

    … 2) to standardize punishment given the wide variety of punishments coming out of various localities.

    … 3) identify and prosecute muslims and jews that had pretended to convert but not,

    … 4) and finally it evolved serve as a bludgeon to prosecute enemies during the reformation – and we see this in the witch trials which were the end process of that process combined with pre-christian heathen rituals.

    We should note that the reason the french government was so bloodily overthrown was the same reason for the protestant reformation, which was the same reason for the Cathar / Albigensian crusade arose. The corruption because of the church’s attempt to imitate Byzantium, and Byzantium’s attempt to imitate the empires of the pre-muslim world: rule of ignorant illiterate people by superstition, instead of the western model of patriarchal, continuous domestication of man from slave, to freeman, to citizen, to senate.

    The church was at a level of corruption similar to that of late french monarchy, and what we see in present Washington.

    There is little difference today between Washington DC, Versailles, The church in France, and the church in Italy (where it did succeed in rule somewhat).

    My read of the inquisition is a protestant propaganda campaign, and a more modern atheist campaign. In effect the church tried for many centuries to rule Europe as it did Byzantium and it failed. It failed and the many sovereign states succeeded. Because a monopoly calcifies and feeds corruption and a market competes and defeats corruption.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 19:46:00 UTC

  • EX-PROPERTARIANS ALWAYS SOUND LIKE JILTED EX-GIRLFRIENDS by Predmetsky Rosenborg

    EX-PROPERTARIANS ALWAYS SOUND LIKE JILTED EX-GIRLFRIENDS

    by Predmetsky Rosenborg

    Ex-Propertarians always sound like jilted ex-girlfriends:

    –“and that non-operationalizable “abrahamism” word”–

    Operationalizing abrahamism is easy…high verbal IQ (median about 129) combined with low visual-spatial (there goes the calculating for physical costs and forces…) care-harm fundamentalism produced by high openness to experience (often correlated with high schizotypy) and agreeableness, moral module predisposes to vulnerable rather than grandiose narcissism (or callous-unemotional as a stand-alone construct), and the predictably high dispositional envy that accompanies it, leading to reversal of hierarchy (the good are evil and the bad are good) — Christianity is Jewish hatred’s most delicate flower of ressentiment rather than its repudiation.

    all of these things have been operationalized with as much precision as you can find in good psychometrics anywhere.

    What I’m interested in is in operationalizing sex differences as inherently relative to race (to say nothing of species) rather than considering them as stand-alone constructs. For example, East Asian masculinity and Ashkenazi masculinity and Caucasian masculinity must always be operationalized and studied together and can only ever be separated analytically. sort of like how some lemur species are female-dominant for biological reasons. Most lemur species are female dominant, but only most. So we can speak of mouse lemur (microcebus)-femininity, dwarf lemur (cheirogaleidaes)-femininity, mongoose lemur (lemuridae)-femininity as female dominant instances whereas brown lemur-femininity is more submissive.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 13:50:00 UTC

  • JOHN MARK EXPLAINS MY POSITION ON CHRISTIANITY (core)(important) To John’s Thoug

    JOHN MARK EXPLAINS MY POSITION ON CHRISTIANITY

    (core)(important)

    To John’s Thoughts, I’ll add this:

    1. SUPPRESSION OF FALSEHOOD AND ITS CONSEQUENCES – My work has a nearly single minded objective, and that ending lying in public speech. So, I’m not complaining about just christianity, but the falsehoods by which the abrahamic religions are constructed, the means of conveying those falsehoods, the consequences of teaching christians how to lie using the abrahamic method, and the consequences of christians lying using the abrahamic method, that makes the entire polity vulnerable to marxist, feminine, postmodern pseudoscience, sophism and denial, just as christianity judaism and islam were spread by supernaturalism, sophism, and denial of reality. As such my objective is the opposite of Augustine and Aquinas, which is to integrate greek reason into christianity on supernatural terms, and instead integrate christianity into western science and reason on scientific terms.

    2. A POLITICAL RELIGION – Christianity, when expressed in secular scientific terms, is in fact an optimum SOCIAL and adequate PERSONAL religion even if it is not an optimum POLITICAL religion -which is why it failed to achieve what islam and judaism did, and why it has declined rapidly in the modern era. My goal is to license political religion so that we cannot be undermined again.

    2. RESTORING A STATE RELIGION TO EXLUDE OTHERS – I’m trying to discover a way to make christianity a state religion by converting it to secular terms – this is possible because christianity and only christianity among the abrahamic religions is compatible with natural law. Christians despise the fact that the lessons of christianity in scientific terms, are optimum strategies for social cooperation at least at interpersonal scale. Because the magic and ‘woo woo’ is lost by doing so restoring dependence upon reason, instead of allowing us to fall into pacifist intuition where we can abandon reason. (which is why religions work to sedate humans.) So over the long term I work to produce a christian law that is inviolate, like sharia, so to speak, from the natural law, and the christian extension of the natural law, by the exhaustion of forgiveness before retaliation or prosecution.

    3. RESTORING THE BALANCE OF POWERS – If I can convert Christianity to secular terms I can restore the church as the political agency responsible for the individual and family, limiting the government to the material, and restore competition between family-church and commerce-government, and military-state. It is this division and competition i’m seeking to restore. (I don’t tell you these things because they taint the audience by letting them know my purposes. I only explain afterward, so that my attacks on any given subject make sense in retrospect. In other words, I’m a scientist. I run tests. The public willing to engage in intellectually honest discourse serves as my testing laboratory.)

    4. MULTIPLE CLASSES MULTIPLE RELIGIONS, SAME MESSAGE – All religions are class religions. Westerners practice a personal religion of Jesus (lower), a social religion of christianity (middle), an secular religion of philosophy (upper middle), a political religion of the law and the sciences that extend the law (upper). The Chinese have confucianism, the Dao, and buddhism, nationalism and familialism. Every culture other than judaism and islam have class religions. And we have and need our class religions.

    5. MULTIPLE GENDERS: ADD MASCULINITY TO RELIGION – There are those of us for whom the philosophy of secular christianity – it’s cooperation – is merely valuable, but for whom our ancestors, culture, nation, civilization are more precious than the false promise of an evil semitic god. And so if we categorize heathenry as the thanks to nature not denial of it, and paganism as thanks to heroes of our history, and the archetypes that are non-submissive to nature and heroic in achievement rather than heroic in tolerance. So I am continuing my process of investigation into whether it is possible to unite these scientific, natural, and christian, traditions in a constitution, that prohibits competition by which to undermine them. And whether they can be practiced together or separately. So again, I see myself trying to unite western civilization against further destruction. And I am doing so by the same means as did those great men who came before me, in every great time of change.

    THE METHOD TO THE APPARENT MADNESS

    There is a deep method to the appearance of my madness. Do not assume you grasp what I am doing. Much of what I do requires I maintain your ignorance of what I am doing, in order to ensure I collect quality information from the population. This is how all behavioral science must be conducted. And it’s how I conduct it.

    – CurtUpdated Oct 12, 2019, 11:12 AM


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 11:12:00 UTC

  • MY POSITION ON CHRISTIANITY (core)(important) To John’s explanation, I’ll add th

    MY POSITION ON CHRISTIANITY

    (core)(important)

    To John’s explanation, I’ll add this:

    1. SUPPRESSION OF FALSEHOOD AND ITS CONSEQUENCES – My work has a nearly single minded objective, and that ending lying in public speech. So, I’m not complaining about just christianity, but the falsehoods by which the abrahamic religions are constructed, the means of conveying those falsehoods, the consequences of teaching christians how to lie using the abrahamic method, and the consequences of christians lying using the abrahamic method, that makes the entire polity vulnerable to marxist, feminine, postmodern pseudoscience, sophism and denial, just as christianity judaism and islam were spread by supernaturalism, sophism, and denial of reality. As such my objective is the opposite of Augustine and Aquinas, which is to integrate greek reason into christianity on supernatural terms, and instead integrate christianity into western science and reason on scientific terms.

    2. A POLITICAL RELIGION – Christianity, when expressed in secular scientific terms, is in fact an optimum SOCIAL and adequate PERSONAL religion even if it is not an optimum POLITICAL religion -which is why it failed to achieve what islam and judaism did, and why it has declined rapidly in the modern era. My goal is to license political religion so that we cannot be undermined again.

    2. RESTORING A STATE RELIGION TO EXLUDE OTHERS – I’m trying to discover a way to make christianity a state religion by converting it to secular terms – this is possible because christianity and only christianity among the abrahamic religions is compatible with natural law. Christians despise the fact that the lessons of christianity in scientific terms, are optimum strategies for social cooperation at least at interpersonal scale. Because the magic and ‘woo woo’ is lost by doing so restoring dependence upon reason, instead of allowing us to fall into pacifist intuition where we can abandon reason. (which is why religions work to sedate humans.) So over the long term I work to produce a christian law that is inviolate, like sharia, so to speak, from the natural law, and the christian extension of the natural law, by the exhaustion of forgiveness before retaliation or prosecution.

    3. RESTORING THE BALANCE OF POWERS – If I can convert Christianity to secular terms I can restore the church as the political agency responsible for the individual and family, limiting the government to the material, and restore competition between family-church and commerce-government, and military-state. It is this division and competition i’m seeking to restore. (I don’t tell you these things because they taint the audience by letting them know my purposes. I only explain afterward, so that my attacks on any given subject make sense in retrospect. In other words, I’m a scientist. I run tests. The public willing to engage in intellectually honest discourse serves as my testing laboratory.)

    4. MULTIPLE CLASSES MULTIPLE RELIGIONS, SAME MESSAGE – All religions are class religions. Westerners practice a personal religion of Jesus (lower), a social religion of christianity (middle), an secular religion of philosophy (upper middle), a political religion of the law and the sciences that extend the law (upper). The Chinese have confucianism, the Dao, and buddhism, nationalism and familialism. Every culture other than judaism and islam have class religions. And we have and need our class religions.

    5. MULTIPLE GENDERS: ADD MASCULINITY TO RELIGION – There are those of us for whom the philosophy of secular christianity – it’s cooperation – is merely valuable, but for whom our ancestors, culture, nation, civilization are more precious than the false promise of an evil semitic god. And so if we categorize heathenry as the thanks to nature not denial of it, and paganism as thanks to heroes of our history, and the archetypes that are non-submissive to nature and heroic in achievement rather than heroic in tolerance. So I am continuing my process of investigation into whether it is possible to unite these scientific, natural, and christian, traditions in a constitution, that prohibits competition by which to undermine them. And whether they can be practiced together or separately. So again, I see myself trying to unite western civilization against further destruction. And I am doing so by the same means as did those great men who came before me, in every great time of change.

    There is a deep method to the appearance of my madness. Do not assume you grasp what I am doing. Much of what I do requires I maintain your ignorance of what I am doing, in order to ensure I collect quality information from the population. This is how all behavioral science must be conducted. And it’s how I conduct it.

    – Curt


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 11:12:00 UTC

  • Martin Štěpán Insight gained while watching this (albeit not directly mentioned

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrZ33sR3N0Qby Martin Štěpán

    Insight gained while watching this (albeit not directly mentioned here).

    Women used to be more religious and more conservative as a result. This is because they’re more inclined towards empathizing on the empathy-systems spectrum (with extremes being schizophrenia and autism). As a result, they attribute intention to where none is present and consider emergent properties of systems a result of the will of God.

    What happens when you take that away and there are these emergent properties of nature left to explain, such as wage-gap, men at all the top positions, all the different outcomes arising from different groups possessing different traits and so on?Updated Oct 12, 2019, 10:43 AM


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 10:43:00 UTC

  • (one “casts” a net, or a fishing line. One is cast out of Eden.)

    (one “casts” a net, or a fishing line. One is cast out of Eden.)


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-11 14:10:55 UTC

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