Theme: Religion

  • RE: Peterson’s Ongoing Decline 1) –“[His distractions are] esoteric but not irr

    RE: Peterson’s Ongoing Decline
    1) –“[His distractions are] esoteric but not irrelevant”–
    It’s worse than irrelevant. I assume your interpretation is due to not having experience in discussions with public intellectuals. But bringing up analogies that force the discussion partner to ignore as unworthy of adult conversation is extremely rude, because it’s asking others to descend into equally childish analogy that opens the field to inflation conflation suggestion deception and nonsense thus discrediting them. In other words, it’s baiting the opponent into hazard.
    So watch debates, and observe how others respond to Peterson’s ‘eccentricity’ (childishness) by not responding and you’ll understand. They always try to restore the framework of discourse to adult conversation. They ignore that he’s rude and childish.
    At present he’s riding entirely on his political activism and not on anything meaningful he contributes to these conversations. In other words people only talk to him for publicity purposes, not for serious discourse.
    The opportunity for suggestion and deception increases with every decine from empiricism, and decreases with every increase from empiricism.

    SCALE: Embodiment <> (Narrative: Anthropomorphism <> Mythology <> Literature )<>( Systematizing: Theology <> Philosophy <> History )<> (Measuring: Empiricism <> Science <> Operationalism (causality)).

    In that sequence “< Easier to vs Harder to >” lie, deceive, suggest, conflate, load, frame, and obscure. It is conversely easier to communicate to those with less knowledge and ability as we move downward on the scale.

    2) –“decline into his own trauma”–
    People who experience trauma sedate their capacity for stress from activation by auto-association by reframing everything into some safe narrative, limiting their need for understanding the framework of others, and decreasing the need for new learning and adaptation. Some others will attempt to push others into their frame for coercive purposes. Peterson’s experience with trauma as well as his exit from the university and his subsequent greater association with those with religious proclivities, has tilted his cognitive framework out of that of someone who merely uses the literary and experiential as a means of explaining the cognition of others to adopting it as his own means of cognition, communication, and argument – in part because of the positive feedback from crowds despite the negative feedback from intellectuals.

    Thanks
    CD

    Reply addressees: @ccllaazz


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-22 22:01:54 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815507587950948352

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  • It follows the general rule that “all mythology, theology, and philosophy is mor

    It follows the general rule that “all mythology, theology, and philosophy is moral fantasy literature” and that like religious, marxist, star wars, or lord of the rings fans, he’s living in that dream world more so than the real one, because at least the dream world makes sense…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-22 20:30:47 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815484658748125543

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  • I’m sure this live event will be on peterson’s stream. Why does peterson need to

    I’m sure this live event will be on peterson’s stream.
    Why does peterson need to drag every rational adult conversation into some reference to literature, mythology, or philosophy, when he’s talking to someone like musk who is speaking in adult language about practical matters, and forcing Musk to “humor” Peterson’s distractions. In other words, he may not realize it but he’s making all conversations about himself and his decline into his own trauma instead of addressing the issue at hand. Over and over again. It’s embarassing.

    Reply addressees: @ccllaazz


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-22 20:25:37 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815483358421422080

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  • Peterson is embarrassing himself in a live interview with Musk. 🙁 Peterson has

    Peterson is embarrassing himself in a live interview with Musk. 🙁

    Peterson has gone over to the spiritual and literary side so far that he has lost his previous ability to use the spiritual and literary for the purpose of therapy in material reality, and become yet another…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-22 19:44:21 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815472973274595771

  • That’s silly. Every innovation in jewish religion whether supernatural abrahamic

    That’s silly. Every innovation in jewish religion whether supernatural abrahamic or pseudoscientific marxist sequence (Irresponsibility, peasantry, slaves, submission, authority) is a counter revolution against european rational and empirical aryanism (responsibility,…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-22 19:26:53 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815468576524144917

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  • Q: “HOW ARE YOU DEFINING MINDFULNESS?” Mindfulness is a concept that has been ex

    Q: “HOW ARE YOU DEFINING MINDFULNESS?”
    Mindfulness is a concept that has been explored and applied in various contexts, ranging from traditional spiritual practices to modern psychological and behavioral science. But whether spiritual, religious, philosophical, intentional discipline, scientific, or cognitive behavioral therapy, the meaning is the same:

    Simple version: “It’s Adulting”. Observing and interpreting the intuitions rather than being a victom of them. Achieved by training in self regulation, by disciplined management of one’s attention, controlling one’s impulses, emotions and ideation, such that we align them with our goals, allowing suppression of neuroticism (impulsive negative thoughts) and especially treating ‘signaling’ from others as their responsibility(problem) not yours. This produces a calm mind. “mindfulness”.

    Mindfulness as the Stoics use it:
    The core Stoic principle of living according to reason and being continually aware of one’s thoughts and actions to ensure they align with virtue.
    – Prosochē: This is a Greek term that is often equated with the Stoic practice of mindfulness. It translates roughly to “attention” and represents the practice of attentive focus and vigilance over one’s thoughts, judgments, and impulses. Prosochē involves being mindful of the present moment and making conscious, rational decisions.
    – Cognitive Discipline: Stoic mindfulness involves a disciplined monitoring of one’s impressions (phantasiai), which are the raw data of experience that have yet to be assented to by reason. This means critically assessing one’s immediate perceptions, refraining from emotional or impulsive reactions, and choosing responses that are in line with Stoic virtues (wisdom, justice, courage, and moderation).

    Mindfulness as Doolittle uses it:
    Given Doolittle’s deep engagement with epistemology, morality, law, economics, and comparative civilization, mindfulness in his usage emphasizes a philosophical and introspective approach.
    It might be defined as:
    – Conscious Awareness and Reflection: Mindfulness involves a heightened state of awareness and deliberate attention to one’s thoughts, emotions, and environment without judgment. This form of mindfulness emphasizes the capacity to observe and reflect upon one’s own mental processes, ethical behaviors, and philosophical inquiries.
    – Intellectual Rigor: In a philosophical context, mindfulness can be seen as a practice of rigorously examining one’s beliefs, values, and the ethical implications of one’s actions. It involves a continuous process of questioning, analyzing, and synthesizing information to achieve a clearer understanding of one’s mental and moral landscape.
    – Application to Decidability and Truth: Mindfulness relates to Doolittle’s focus on decidability and performative truth, where the conscious effort to remain fully present and meticulously observant aids in making more accurate, just, and ethical decisions.
    – Institutionalization: Doolittle argues that while hunter gatherer life produced mindfulness by social dependency, agrarian myth and religion by personal and social narrative and ritual, industrial and technological life has tried to produce it by education and political ideology, which are insufficient for the suppression of neuroticism, unpredictability and alienation, and instead modern peoples require education incorporate relatively costly and consistent repetition of one or more of the mindfulness methods throughout development.

    Mindfulness as Used by Behavioral Scientists:
    In the field of psychology and behavioral sciences, mindfulness is more specifically defined and studied within the context of mental health and cognitive functioning. It is often described as:
    – Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction (MBSR): Developed by Jon Kabat-Zinn, this program uses mindfulness meditation to help people manage stress, anxiety, depression, and pain. Mindfulness, in this sense, is a therapeutic tool aimed at focusing the present moment in a non-judgmental manner.
    – Cognitive Process: Behavioral scientists often study mindfulness as a cognitive process that involves maintaining a moment-by-moment awareness of our thoughts, feelings, bodily sensations, and surrounding environment. This definition emphasizes mindfulness as a mental state achieved by focusing one’s awareness on the present moment.
    – Evidence-Based Benefits: Scientifically, mindfulness has been linked to numerous benefits, such as reduced symptoms of depression, increased emotion regulation, and improved overall cognitive ability. These effects are believed to result from mindfulness meditation’s capacity to increase individuals’ control over their neurocognitive processes.

    Bridging The Perspectives:
    While your philosophical and introspective approach to mindfulness emphasizes a broader, more existential exploration, the behavioral science approach tends to be more empirical and focused on practical outcomes such as stress reduction and cognitive improvements. Both perspectives share a common recognition of mindfulness as a state of enhanced awareness and presence of mind, albeit applied for different ends.

    Understanding these applications of mindfulness allows for a comprehensive appreciation of its potential benefits, ranging from deeper philosophical insights to tangible improvements in mental health and cognitive capacities.

    Cheers
    Curt Doolittle


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-19 03:37:35 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814136638915629057

  • McGilchrist has created a fictionalism (pseudoscience) to justify his christian

    McGilchrist has created a fictionalism (pseudoscience) to justify his christian fundamentalism.
    Instead, the origin of the two hemispheres is predator (left) prey (right) which should be obvious with less than ten seconds of thought.
    Nature cannot conceive, it can only solve incremental problems, and with bilateralism’s advantage in motion came the problem of synchronizing bilateralism, and solution to the bilateral brain produced the potential and demand for hemispheric dominance (priority) and as a consequence specialization. This resulted in the origin of all human differences sex, with the female (integrated and prey) bias, and the masculine (compartmentalized and predator) bias.
    You are welcome as is anyone else to watch my videos on the foundations on our YT channel to understand these matters.
    You are a good person, with moral ambitions, and you’re intellectually honest, so It’s worth my time to at least respond to you, but you should also try to recall that I’m probably one of only a handful of people on earth who understand these things at all levels of precision, and perhaps consider that just because I am kind in devoting my time to the public it does not mean it’s to be taken lightly. (Well, except when we’re all trash talking some nonsense or other as a break from the tedium and frustration of other bits of life. 😉 )
    -hugs

    Reply addressees: @artus9010


    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-15 00:37:42 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1812647695322136577

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  • I am looking at the evidence. We know why religion evolved both in natural relig

    I am looking at the evidence. We know why religion evolved both in natural religions (feast, burial, territorial marking, and anthropomorphism) and in formal religions (moral commensurability as trade scaled). And we know why religion has been supplanted by philosophy among the upper classes, then ideology among the working and lower classes. And today we see the spectrum of scientific, philosophical, traditional, faithful, and fundamentalist distributions in the demographic. We know why religion is collapsing in proportion to IQ, Education, and Development. We even know what developmental variation in people generates demand for supernatural systematizing, and we know how much indoctrination is required to achieve it. In other words a certain percentage of people are indoctrinated in youth, and among them a certain percentage are cognitively feminine (empathic) such that they require external reinforcement over internal regulation, and/or they require certainty and a sense of correctness or control that’s necessary to suppress their neuroticism. Or the worst kind, those whose self image and status is dependent upon the confidence in the religion such that they are terrified of their ordinariness or failure in the face of evidence in life without the crutch of their faith to use for dominance expression as defense against that fear.
    I would not deny those who need it the crutch of faith. I would not deny the mind of the majority in the utility of an abstract god as a moral measure of others and the self. But that is different from saying it is necessary when it is only the abrahamic peoples that think so, and the largest and oldest civilization (China) has no equivalent td thinks abrahamics are childish. And the optimu society of Japan still practices nature and ancestor worship and nationalism – which are the only non false religions.

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    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-14 17:43:45 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1812543519468531712

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  • This is empirically false. Instead, it appears that only 20% of the population c

    This is empirically false. Instead, it appears that only 20% of the population can tolerate supernatural religion. For the rest, supernatural religion is incompatible with reality. We are seeing this across the west, and we are seeing it emerge in muslim countries with the best examples being Iran, Iraq, and especially albania. Where it is preserved it’s because the political boundaries that combine ethnicities are prohibiting the production of nation states. It’s similar to the cultural warfare in the USA, as religion declines down to it’s predicted 20% (or lower).

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    Source date (UTC): 2024-07-14 17:26:31 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1812539183551873024

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