Theme: Religion

AN ARGUMENT WITH A MUSLIM: HERE IS HOW IT IS DONE. STAY ON MESSAGE. REPEAT THE TRUTH. EXPOSE THEIR LIES JUST LIKE WE DO AGAINST LIBERTARIANS AND LEFTISTS.

(You see, they sold their lies on the presumption that empirical evidence would accumulate more slowly their means of conquest of the underclasses. It worked among the jews, it worked in the ancient world via the christians. It worked in the medieval world by the church, and it ALMOST worked in the modern world by the jewish cosmopolitans and their french allies.)

(I also want to interject that this fellow relies on feminine argument techniques such as NAXALT, False moral equivalency, and shaming, and straw men. And this leads us to repeat the observation that the jews (communists), the french (the most effeminate of europeans) and women (feminist, socialists), all make use of the female reproductive strategy, and the female means of argument. As such we must understand that it is the attempt to devolve society again by the reintroduction of matrilenalism, and if possible, matriarchy, that is being empoyed by islam, judaism, christianity, feminism, communism, socialism, postmodernism… all the ism’s against aristocracy here and in china are means of rebelling against our invention of aristocracy.)

Jahan Khalili If Islam and poverty always existed there, but the radicalization never appeared until you started poking the hornet’s nest, the source of the radicalization is yourselves.

(CURT: Um. Islam, evolved out of christianity as a means of resistance against the roman empire, the same way that judaism evolved out of zoroastrianism as a means of resisting the persian and egyptian and hittite and … every other superior people.

Curt Doolittle This isn’t right. No one is very honest about these things so here is the very, very simple answer:

(a) The purpose of american involvement was to prevent the soviets and the chinese from exporting communism and militarism to the oil lands.

(b) the purpose of american policy since the end of world communism has been to transform the muslim world into a civilized rule of law and consumer capitalism and drag it out of ignorance and poverty as we did european, sinic, hindu, and christian african civilization.

The problem is that muslims neither possessed the demographics (most muslim nations have near subsaharan african IQ’s), nor the history of quality rule (outside of persia) as did china and india (and less so russia). Nor any have muslims adopted literacy as had those countries, nor education. Nor had muslims adopted

The USA’s supposition that persia could secularize, restore it’s heritage and develop into a core state for islam. WHen this failed americans tried to do the same with Turkey. However, it appears that demographically this is nearly impossible and that we must treat islamic countries (or at least the arab muslim countries) as just a militant version of subsaharan africa, that must be contained and allowed to mature at their own rate, just as we contained Russia and China.



Curt Doolittle Islam was never able to break kin, clan, tribal, and national bonds, nor able to nor able to develop a professional governemnt, nor develop deflationary thought, and was unable to modernize in response to the industrial revolution.

Jahan Khalili “The purpose of american involvement was to prevent the soviets and the chinese from exporting communism and militarism to the oil lands. “

OK, so the purpose of terrorists who attack the West is to change the West.

What are you trying to say? That purpose = right to do something?

Curt Doolittle The only hope was Persia. The second hope was Turkey. But the ethnic arabs are, and seemingly have been, unable to develop land-holder (agrarian) ethics, and to develop agrarian genetics, and without these is having difficulty transitioning to industrial, and not even informational era ethics.



Jahan Khalili Islam is not something monolithic. Muslims are fighting with each other.

Curt Doolittle I have a very precise and scientific definition of right. So yes, they had teh ‘right’ to do something, since islam has been at war with the west for 1400 years, and has destroyed roman, north african, persian, byzantine, and north indian civilizations.

Jahan Khalili Islamic imperialists judge the West just as harshly. The Westerners have been unable to stop spreading corruption like porn and alcohol. What do we do about these problematic corrupters and vice-spreaders?



Curt Doolittle Islam is monolithic in the the sense that it is, like the other two abrahamic religoins, a set of lies, the purpose of which is to create ignorance, so that simple bpeople can be subjeted to rule.

Curt Doolittle Porn and alcohol and nude women and all other temptations are designed to entrap weak people of weak character so that we can imprison or kill or punish them, and prevent them from reproduction.

(CD: he moved on too fast, but this was a great opportunity to show that islam actually PREVENTS the acccumulation of the skills necessary for the suppression of implsiveness, which is why it is so useful for inferior peoples.)



Jahan Khalili Can you explain how ISIS murders Shi’ites and Saudi Arabia persecutes them, if Islam is monolithic?

(CD: Note the use of NAXALT)



Curt Doolittle WHat does infighting have to do with the fact that islam has destroyed at least four superior more advanced civilizations, lost two standard deviations of intelligence, and impoverished everyone it touches, buy the mandatory indoctrination of people into a set of falsehooods, and fictional history, the purpose of which is merely to make them easeir to rule?



Jahan Khalili The Islamic fanatics view the West as monolithic, too, with its many countries, cultures and very different and formerly fighting forms of Christianity. Would you agree with them?



Curt Doolittle You know, a scientist doesn’t use ‘ideal’ terms like ‘monolithic’ because they are like religious terms, means of lying. Instead, we use deflationary language in order to prevent lying.



Jahan Khalili Dude, you’re not an authority on this subject. You’re repeating propaganda that the Muslim-haters use as self-justification for further intervention, which caused this mess in the first place.

Curt Doolittle So, the west has had conflcits. The musim world has had conflicts. But the fact of the matter is that arabs are the dumbest and most ignorant people in the world outside of south africa, and that they have destroyed four major successful civlivations, and reversed the evolution by down breeding.

Islam has caused more death, ignorance, and harm than every other event otehr than the black plague and malaria.



Curt Doolittle I am, in fact, an authority on this subject.



Jahan Khalili That’s what you say

Curt Doolittle I am in fact, quite possibly THE authority on truth.



Jahan Khalili Catholic-Protestant wars

Curt Doolittle And you are, as is typical, like an Abrahamist, avoiding any sense of empirical or logical argument by attempting to create moral equivalency by suggesting equality between things that are empirically and logically not equal in consequence.



Jahan Khalili “I am in fact, quite possibly THE authority on truth.”

Ridiculous. What’s the difference between you and prophet Mohammad?

Jahan Khalili I have a beard and dark complexion and an Iranian name. That makes me an Abrahamist?

(Note the suggestion that his appearance rather than his method of argument identifies him. Your method of argument determines your allegiance. )



Curt Doolittle Mohammed, if he existed, was never mentioned during his lifetime, and every stitch of what is attributed to him is appropriated from christian and jewish sects. What separates me from ‘fictionalism’ is called ‘science’ or what is more accurately called ‘measurement’ rather than ‘analogy’, ‘parable’ and ‘fiction.



Jahan Khalili

There is no such a thing as a person who has the whole truth. Maybe you should be more humble. Have you ever even lived in an Islamic country?

(CURT: Straw Man. Hyperbole.)



Jahan Khalili

I wouldn’t take an “expert on the West” who has never lived in the West seriously. We have plenty of those fake experts in Iran.

(CURT: Note the fallacy: becuase you don’t know this particular, you can’t make claims about the general – ie: the consequences. Thats similar to saying that one’s intentions have some bearing on the consequences of one’s words and actions.)



Curt Doolittle

You are DEMONSTRATING abrahamic deceit by attempting to avoid answering the argument. This is the secret to abrahamic lying. Is or is it not true that the west rationally contained islamic peoples from adopting communism, and rationally still contains them because in the pre-modern era, for 1400 years, islam was a plague upon this earth causing more death and the destruction of more civilizations than the great diseases of malaria and the great plague, and the islamic peoples are still ignorant, illiterate, superstitious, poor, and expansionary, and violent, and harmful to more developed civilizations?

THESE ARE SIMPLE SCIENTIFIC FACTS.

Jahan Khalili

Nonsense. You don’t know me or my motivations and are behaving like a fanatic yourself by projecting your ideas on me.

(CURT: wait. A muslim… ‘projecting your ideas on me’. lol. No. I’m just trying to determine if he is a liar by intent or by habituation due to indoctrination into the lies Abrahamism.)



Curt Doolittle

You are demonstrating you are an Abrahamist (jew) by appealing to AUTHORITY (expert) rather than making an argument, or refuting an argument.

Jahan Khalili

LOL. I’m accused of appealing to authority after you claimed to be one?

(CURT: Note that he stated that i needed to be an authority to have an opinion. lol So he made the appeal to authority, and I countered it.)



Curt Doolittle

I do not care what your motivations are. Your motivations are meaningless. (a) you are in fact making fraudulent arguments in the abrahamic tradition (b) you are in fact denying that islam has been the most destructive decivilizing force in history, and (c) you are denying that islam was a cancer on this earth and was the principle cause of the european dark ages because of raiding and plunder.



Curt Doolittle

So you are demonstrating abrahamism (jewishness) by your use of fraudulent argument, straw men, appealing to argument, denial of facts, use of moral equivalence between objectively moral and immoral civilizations.



Curt Doolittle

You are owned. You are had. You are defeated. You are a liar, an Abrahamist, and a justifier of lies, Abrahmism, violence, and the cancer of islamic civilization.

Jahan Khalili

Yes, everything is meaningless except your ideas which are golden cannon. No one – not even people who lived with actual Muslims – has any input that can be useful towards understanding the subject except yourself.

(CURT: Ah. You don’t know how I feel fallacy. Straw man.)



Jahan Khalili

You are an angry man who is lashing out at someone you don’t even know over the internet.

(CURT: Ad hom. Psychologism. Feminine. )

Curt Doolittle

So you again demonstrate that you are an abrahamic by making a false moral equivalency rather than answering the criticism that islam has been the most destructive influence on humanity other than the great plagues?



Jahan Khalili

You are aware that argument alone is insufficient to learn the truth, and that experience and gathering data play a role?

(CURT: I kinda wonder how the empirical evidence of 1400 years of history and the destruction of four major civilizations has not been a matter of experience and data…. sigh)



Curt Doolittle

I dont’ care who you are because, it is my job as a moral man to stop evil in this world, and if you are an evil abrahamic justifier of parasitism devolution and death then it is my job to prosecute you.



Jahan Khalili

LOL. Whatever.



Curt Doolittle

Thank you for this discourse, so I can publish it and show others what it is like to argue with abrahamism.