Theme: Religion

  • THE BIG QUESTION FOR PETERSON, THAT HARRIS COULDN”T FIGURE OUT HOW TO ASK —“Pe

    THE BIG QUESTION FOR PETERSON, THAT HARRIS COULDN”T FIGURE OUT HOW TO ASK

    —“Peterson manages to inspire me without coming across as foolishly optimistic or unrealistic in expectation. That’s really quite an accomplishment.”—

    (That is because you already agree with him. – Who *doesn’t* agree with him? Why? I read all the same research that he does. I just read very different LITERATURE from that which he does. )

    RESOLVING HARRIS’ QUESTION

    I want to resolve the same question Harris does, but I am capable of asking in more articulately than Harris.

    THE QUESTION FOR JORDAN PETERSON

    “Jordan, given the portfolio of Myth, Literature, History, and Science and Tort Law (record of existential disputes), why does one have to preserve political conflation (combining myth, law, history), choice conflation (the useful, the preferable, the good, and the true) and fictionalism (idealism, supernaturalism, occultism)?

    In other words WHY DO YOU NEED TO PRESERVE LYING when it is by conflation and fictionalism that the west was destroyed in the ancient world; medieval man was trapped in illiteracy and superstition for a dark age – ended by literacy and restoration of our ancient thought; four great civilizations have been destroyed by islam and descended into ignorance; jews were unable to build a territory and institutions, and despite being literate contributed nothing good to human history, and in the modern era, kant, the french and the cosmopolitans, the marxists and the postmodernists have done nothing but attempt to produce a series of counter-enlightenments preventing the completion of the ‘restoration’ (enlightenment) by its extension to the social, political, and juridical sciences?

    Why do we need to circumvent reason, and rely upon lying, when the secret by which the west in the black sea, aegean, Mediterranean, north-baltic sea (hansa), atlantic, and seven-seas eras, dragged mankind kicking and screaming out of superstition, ignorance, poverty, disease, and tyranny by the use of Martial Epistemology (Truth), Sovereignty, Heroism, and Markets?

    Why isn’t the battle between good and evil, that between the use of truth in pagan aristocracy and the use of lies in monotheistic underclass socialism?

    Isn’t the battle that we have had for 6000 years, between (a) the revolutionary invention of truth, paternalism, sovereignty, markets, and transcendence of the limits of mind and body, and (b) the counter-revolution against it and the preservation of the primitive? Isn’t the enlightenment and the ongoing counter-enlightemnent just a continuation of the cycle between truth and deceit?

    How is history reducible to anything other than two rare peoples, each at opposite ends of the eurasian continent, (europe and china) inventing reason, and everyone between them retaliating against them in a series of cycles and counter-cycles?

    How is it even conscionable to perpetuate that which was invented and has served as the primary means by which civilization has been reversed, regressed?

    I mean. How is it in any way morally conscionable to advocate the preservation of the greatest cause of murder, suffering, destruction, poverty, ignorance, and dysgenia, – even greater than the black plague – when there is no demonstrable need to do so other than to appeal to the baser elements of man?

    What is the difference between marketing the dream state by saturation in endorphins by hacking man’s submission-to-the-pack instinct, and saturating those endorphins by the use of opium?

    What is the difference between the British sale of opium to the chinese, and the state, academy, and church’s sale of the opium of endorphins to the west?

    Why aren’t constantine and justinian, the middle eastern purveyors of the same thing to the west that the British were to the east?

    What moral justification can you give for what appears to be nothing more than one of the greatest crimes, if not THE greatest crimes, in history: the invention of zoroastrianism-abrahamism? The use of conflation to overload reason as a counter-revolution AGAINST truth and reason?

    THERE ISN’T ANY MORAL JUSTIFICATION FOR IT, IS THERE?


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-14 22:26:00 UTC

  • What evidence is there that Abrahamism isn’t anything more than the counter-enli

    What evidence is there that Abrahamism isn’t anything more than the counter-enlightenment against Aryanism (Aristocracy)?


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-14 13:34:00 UTC

  • THE LAYER CAKE OF SOCIAL ORDER RELIGION Religion evolved to provide understandin

    THE LAYER CAKE OF SOCIAL ORDER

    RELIGION

    Religion evolved to provide understanding of the word, virtues to imitate, and general prohibitions, across clans, tribes, and conquered nations, so that people could cooperate more easily and retaliate (feud) less frequently.

    Weapon: ostracization (death sentence)

    Records: memory of locals.

    LAW

    Law evolved to standardize punishments across clans, tribes, and conquered nations, to keep the peace, preserve productivity, preserve taxation, and legitimize (provide value by) rule.

    Weapon: violence, deprivation

    Records: written ledgers of crimes and punishments.

    CREDIT

    Credit rule evolved to increase productivity by the promise of consumption in the present, such that the primary form of social punishment was loss of consumption, status, and signaling.

    Weapon: deprivation of consumption, status, and signaling.

    Records: written and electronic records of creditworthiness.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-14 13:30:00 UTC

  • THE TRANSFORMATION OF CHRISTIANITY. —“How hard is it necessary to counter-sign

    THE TRANSFORMATION OF CHRISTIANITY.

    —“How hard is it necessary to counter-signal Christianity? I hate Christianity as such. But it doesn’t seem terribly productive because most of them are never going to change – at least in this generation.”— A Friend

    I don’t know myself. I’m running the experiment. That’s what I do. I attack ideas to see if they survive or not. Most long time followers know that’s how I work.

    So far I can’t find a reason to hold onto Christianity other than to take over the institutions and to demote the various fables to just ‘another one of the legends’.

    I would prefer to abandon all of the new testament and the majority of the old, other than some of the babylonian myths (the flood etc.). And I would like to cast each of the ‘gods’ of the zoroastrians and the abrahamists as different gods. And to restore sky-father as our ‘pater familia’.

    For the preachers, I can see using all legends to teach (a) transcendence, (b) the monomyth, (c) the various plots within the monomyth, (d) the archetypes that serve those plots, and (e) the virtues each archetype teaches us. Then to apply those lessons to the problems of the day or era. And to apply them to the cycles of life and the ways in which the different classes can handle them.

    For spirtuality, then to teach mindfulness and the virtues via stoicism, the discourse with the gods as reformed prayer, and the use, if necessary of meditation where prayer, and virtues fail.

    As for the ritual, to replace the apostle’s creed with an oath more suitable to our people (truth, duty, etc), and the sacrifice and feast ritual to something more suitable to our people.

    As for funding the church I prefer to merge the spiritual and material disciplines into one institution, by combining church and education, thereby providing a means of funding, and a constant flow of generations. A section of the constitution for the church/school as well as one for the state.

    To defend the church/school and the people, to attach an armory and militia and funding for the militia to any church that can raise one.

    If done so, then the church (family) is restored to its position as a competitor to the state (houses).

    This is the theory I”m working with since it eliminates falsehood, restores the competition between family and state, and provides a method of funding and opposing the state (government).

    This is but one small part of what I’m doing. I’m just working through the theory to see if it survives.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-14 13:17:00 UTC

  • Freedom of religion is even worse than freedom of speech. They both license dece

    Freedom of religion is even worse than freedom of speech. They both license deceit.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-14 11:09:00 UTC

  • WON’T ABRAHAMISTS JUST CHANGE STRATEGY AGAIN? —“Just curious..I’m sure you’ve

    WON’T ABRAHAMISTS JUST CHANGE STRATEGY AGAIN?

    —“Just curious..I’m sure you’ve worked this out already. But….So, how can we be so sure that Abrahamism won’t change its strategy again, adapt, and learn how to fight back through parasitism once again after we’ve implemented a new way through your philosophy for all time?”— Adam Walker

    Very good question.

    There is a basic logic of all communication that is reducible to a set of ‘measurements’ that allows us to construct a language (terms) and grammar that make it very difficult to state falsehoods. (this is primarily what Acquisitionism, Propertarianism, and Testimonialism provide)

    And given that we understand this grammar, we can also show how suggestion can be created by a series of related statements through unstated but intermediary consequences (suggestive deductions).

    It is very hard to construct lies via that intermediary means of suggestion. I suspect people will try to invent some method, but I think it’s going to be as easy to defeat as religious arguments are today.

    There is a limit to human cognitive ability which is why game theory is of such limited value beyond the second or third order. Just as there is a limit to the number of chess moves a human seems to be able to rationally consider in advance of play.

    So to translate that, it means it is extremely difficult to construct a lie that ordinary people can be fooled by if we make it difficult to do so beyond the third order.

    I hope that is enough to make sense (knowing you I suspect it is.)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-13 19:18:00 UTC

  • THE RESTORATION OF ARYANISM – OUR SEVENTH AGE We have entered the restoration. T

    THE RESTORATION OF ARYANISM – OUR SEVENTH AGE

    We have entered the restoration. The final defeat of the lies of Abrahamism. Our Seventh Age.

    1) The Age of the Horse Bronze and Wheel – The Black Sea (defeated by success and consequent absorption)

    2) The Age of Iron – The Mediterranean (Defeated by Success and Abrahamism)

    3) The Age of Rebirth – The North Sea (Delayed by Atlanticism)

    4) The Age of Steel – The Atlantic – (Defeated by success and civil war)

    5) The Attempt at Rebirth (germany) – The North Sea and Continent (defeated by jewish communists and anglo puritans [anglo jews])

    6) The Attempt at Restoration (america) – The World (Defeated by Success and Postmodernism, and the opening to islam by postmodernists)

    7) … The Restoration of Aryanism (europa magna) – The defeat of the abrahamists in all their forms)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-13 19:10:00 UTC

  • THE LESSON OF HISTORY: THE CANCER OF ABRAHAMISM, AND THE ENLIGHTENMENT AS THE AR

    THE LESSON OF HISTORY: THE CANCER OF ABRAHAMISM, AND THE ENLIGHTENMENT AS THE ARYAN RESTORATION

    One does not reject christianity in favor of postmodernism, or marxism, or islamism – one rejects all abrahamism in favor of Aryanism. A return to Aryanism.

    Aryanism: truth, heroism, sovereignty, techne (knowledge), and competitive excellence: dominion over man and nature and therefore transcendence.

    Abrahamism is to reject Aryanism by demanding its opposites: lying(-truth), submission(-heroism), sovereignty (-collectivism and equality), ignorance and superstition (-techne and laws of nature), and equality(-competitive excellence) and surrender to the passions of the animal man and to forgo transcendence and retreat into animal.

    ‘Abrahamism includes Judaism, it’s heresy of Christianity, Christianity’s heresy of Islam.

    The evidence is clear: the jews were the most literate people but lost their territory, and were almost exterminated multiple times, and they contributed precisely nothing to the betterment of mankind despite their literacy.

    The Aryan man dragged mankind out of superstition, ignorance, poverty, in the ancient world.

    The Christian man descended into ignorance, superstition, poverty, disease, and tyranny under christianity, peaking in 1000ad, and from 1200 ad onward incrementally restored his aryanism, casting off abrahamism between 1480 and 1800, then again from 1800 to 1914.

    Starting in the 1700’s, in opposition to the Enlightenment (Aryan Restoration) the French reinvented secular Abrahamism, which led to the bloody french revolution and the end of french civilization, and the reduction of france to a feminine people.

    But starting in the mid 1800’s with boaz, marx, freud, the abrahamists invented pseudoscience where before they invented pseudo-mythology.

    And beginning with the defeat of the Russian orthodox peoples by the Bolsheviks, and the folly of Russian people under communism, it took almost a century to free Russians from lies, and the damage the russian people under the Abrahamists had done to the world.

    The French retaliated again, and evolved Abrahamism again, converted abrahamic Marxism to Abrahamic postmodernism. And it is postmodernism that has infected the west yet again, with another wave of feminine abrahamism.

    Because of this infection of the west, Islam is not contained any longer, and masculine islam is conquering feminine postmodernism.

    The same is true for islam: islam was nothing, and destroyed the four great civilizations of the ancient world: The north african, the levantine, the roman, and the persian. And for 1400 years the west, much of india, and the far east survived, until the west rose out of christianity and returned briefly to Aryanism. And almost succeeded from freeing herself under the German expansion.

    Had it not been for the conquest of russians by the eastern european bolshevik jews, the germans might have saved us from Abrahamism and completed the enlightenment: the restoration of our peoples.

    Abrahamism is a cancer of the mind. Everyone suffers for it. Just because something is appealing, does not make it good.

    Between Islam (250M dead), and Communism (+100M dead), and the destruction of the North African, Levantine, Roman, and Persian empires, nothing has been worse for humanity than Abrahamism – even the black plagues pale in comparison.

    Yet, a small group of men practicing Aryanism can drag all of mankind out of superstition, ignorance, poverty, disease, and tyranny of the ignorant.

    Those people conquered everything from spain to the gobi desert.

    But wherever they conquered they were absorbed by the local population and lost.

    Wherever we eradicated others, we survived.

    The Iranian branch developed zoroastrianism – submission to one god. The jews invented abrahamism. And they invented it to resist both European and Iranian Peoples.

    To practice Abrahamism is to practice suicide.

    That is the lesson of history.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-13 18:02:00 UTC

  • @jordanbpeterson I would love it if you would answer this question on your use o

    @jordanbpeterson I would love it if you would answer this question on your use of Fictionalism in Myth. https://propertarianism.com/2017/06/13/open-letter-to-jordan-peterson/ Troubles me.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-13 17:36:34 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/874681916410261505

  • #Trump “But how can man die better, than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of h

    #Trump “But how can man die better, than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his gods.” Revolution Comes.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-06-13 16:49:24 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/874670045871443968