Theme: Reciprocity

  • ” NAP rings true for them because they ALREADY accept the preconditions that the

    —” NAP rings true for them because they ALREADY accept the preconditions that the NAP assumes – it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.”—JWarren Prescott


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-14 18:08:00 UTC

  • (must read) by James Fox Higgins I’m seeing a number of people who are strugglin

    (must read)

    by James Fox Higgins

    I’m seeing a number of people who are struggling with some of the core ideas of Curt Doolittle’s Propertarianism like property-in-toto which observes that one man’s ideal of the concept “property” may differ from another’s, just as in some cultures women are considered a man’s property which we in the Christian west find abhorrent. But the reality remains: in the Islamic state, women ARE the property of their men. It doesn’t make it morally right. It’s just an empirical fact.

    I thought Curt was Satan incarnate until it clicked for me that he is not in the business of moralisms like just about every other philosopher is. He’s not dealing with Platonic ideals. He’s dealing with Aristotelean empiricism. Not what ought to be (which is culturally relative), but what is (which is empirical).

    Words like “legitimate property” are ideals, but fail to argue against what really occurs: people defend with force that which they consider to be theirs. Those with the greater will to power, control such moral definitions. You really think the men of radical Islam will care about our Christian moralisms if they gain control of our lands? Might doesn’t make make right, might makes rule.

    You can talk about property moralistically if you like, but it has no bearing on the empirical reality. Wishful thinking seldom changes the reality of those who don’t accept your definitions but do have a greater will to power.

    This is what propertarianism is about: using language to describe what actually is, not what ought to be. Your ideals-based definitions of property are fine if you preface them with “I prefer” or “I wish” or “what would be ideal to me is” or “what is most in line with Christian ethics is”… But when it comes down to it… Bane OWNED Gotham city, until Batman took it back. Morality is only as good (in practise) as those with the will to protect it.

    Morality is God-given, but it is protected by the will and flesh of men. If you won’t fight for what is yours and what you believe in your heart to be right, you’re just relying on others to do it for you so you can quibble over the language of “legitimate property”. When the barbarians take your lands, livestock, and women, it is (empirically) theirs. Same applies to anything you value. Own it and defend it, or accept that others will.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-14 17:24:00 UTC

  • GET OVER THE NAP. IT MEANS YOU’RE A USEFUL IDIOT No. NAP looks like another semi

    GET OVER THE NAP. IT MEANS YOU’RE A USEFUL IDIOT

    No. NAP looks like another semitic (abrahamic, marxist, libertarian, postmodern) pretense to reciprocity and rule of law, that (a) does not require reciprocity be earned, (b) retains the semitic means of deceit by fraud by omission enabling blackmail, enabling conspiracy, (c) (d) continuing the semitic method of baiting well meaning fools into hazard thru piplup and deceit.

    NAP is to Reciprocity as Labor Theory of Value is to Subjective Value, and as money proper is to money substitutes – it’s another fraud.

    Other things may look like reciprocity. But they are not. They are all substitutes for reciprocity because they are means of circumventing reciprocity. So since they are all worse than reciprocity, one must answer the question why one seeks something less than reciprocity, and as such why one seeks to preserve means of irreciprocity.

    I mean, we know why our ancient enemy wants to preserve irreciprocity – to preserve parasitism upon the productive people.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-14 16:44:00 UTC

  • There are two intersecting rules: 1. Kin selection 2. Reciprocity within the lim

    There are two intersecting rules:
    1. Kin selection
    2. Reciprocity within the limits of proportionality.
    This explains his list of ten common outputs.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-12 14:04:17 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1105469565197303808

  • There are two intersecting rules: 1. Kin selection 2. Reciprocity within the lim

    There are two intersecting rules:

    1. Kin selection

    2. Reciprocity within the limits of proportionality.

    This explains his list of ten common outputs.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-12 10:04:00 UTC

  • WHAT DOES P-LAW SAY ABOUT TORTURE? Torture as punishment? Or torture to extract

    WHAT DOES P-LAW SAY ABOUT TORTURE?

    Torture as punishment? Or torture to extract information?

    In the case of common criminals? For involuntary actors: soldiers, warriors, or spies? Or for voluntary actors: traitors, terrorists, enemy combatants?

    As a punishment no. Never. That is cruelty.

    As a means of extracting information, without maiming, yes.

    As a means of extracting with maiming, only for voluntary actors: traitors, enemy combatants, and terrorists, and not for involuntary actors (soldiers, warriors, and spies).

    Mercy is for the weak, for fools, and women.

    –“And cruelty, for the desperate, the cowardly, the short-lived, and the base.”—Tim Beckley-Spillane

    To second Tim, I ‘ll say that men who enjoy war are different from men who enjoy cruelty. And cruelty is never something we want among us.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 21:18:00 UTC

  • MOST CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE? —“Curt Doolittle: What’s the most controversial soci

    MOST CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE?

    —“Curt Doolittle: What’s the most controversial social issue that is the most difficult to solve for propertarianism?”—Philip Clark

    Religion without exception. Abortion because it is so passionate and it is not a question of law but of choice on the part of the community. hence the necessity of small custom communities.

    I’ll say this:

    1. Abrahamic religion is a rather obvious bad – but it appears we are stuck with it.

    2. Abortion is very difficult because (a) it is never clear that we aren’t just trying to suppress sexuality (which is fine) but address the underling question not abortion, (b) whether it’s any different or worse than ‘exposure’ by which women have killed more lives than all wars in history combined. (c) whether it’s simply a better choice than putting children into terrible circumstances and hostile environments. (d) whether it’s tragic for many young couples who are not sufficiently adult and if there is any alternative, (e) that there shouldn’t be some additional penalty for failing to use protection. My opinion is keep it legal but make couples pay dearly for it over the long term. But it’s only an opinion.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 13:40:00 UTC

  • SECOND RESPONSE TO​ TURD FLINGING MONKEY (good material for countering critics)

    SECOND RESPONSE TO​ TURD FLINGING MONKEY

    (good material for countering critics)

    —“@Curt Doolittle You’ve simply proven my point. Under your system, everyone would sue everyone for any criticism, and this would have a far reaching silencing effect, which would make civil discourse impossible out of fear, and lead to violence as the natural consequence. You say “fewer public opinions of higher quality”, but in reality it would simply lead to the mass silencing on opinions which are not approved by the ruling class of judges who determine what is and isn’t approved.

    You accuse me of straw-manning while proving my point. Obviously under your system you would sue me and it would be left to judge to sort out. Maybe they side with you, maybe they side with me, but either way it rests on the personal beliefs, biases, and interpretations of judges with no input from the people. This is rule by judges, but you don’t see it that way in the same way that Communists would reject the idea that their system leads to a Dictatorship. They would scoff at the idea that they support Dictators, even though that would inevitably happen (and has happened) whenever their system is implemented.”—

    So how would judges and JURIES make decisions on the truthfulness, due diligence, and harm of a statement – and why would that be DISCRETIONARY rather than DECIDABLE?

    In other words, since P consists of a methodology for such due diligence under law, such that you know, and the court knows, and the jury knows, you performed sufficient due diligence to satisfy demand for decidability before making a claim – then whether the claim is later found true or false is immaterial.

    And if found against you, retraction and equal promotion would be required – plus court costs.

    In this case you did not criticize wether that method of due diligence would provide decidability versus discretion. You assumed P is an ideology or philosophy rather than a methodology where one part of that methodology which consists of those steps of due diligence.

    And you did not criticize whether that methodology will in fact provide decidability rather than discretion that you accuse me of fostering.

    The answer is, that you are lazy, didn’t do your due diligence, and sought attention and signaling and perhaps income by criticizing that which you did not understand is a formal (in the grammatical sense ) logic.

    And like every excuse maker in history you are trying to preserve your source of attention, signaling, self image, and possible income, by externalizing costs onto others – in my case defense of my work, it’s brand, and the potential to offer a viable solution to conquest by the sophisms of the left.

    Now, were ths law in place, you would no doubt simply have done your due diligence and PAID THE COST YOURSELF, rather than making a dishonest statement in public and forcing me to bear the cost of defending it.

    Or you could have, at the very least, engaged in reciprocity, produced a list of questions, and either published those questions or asked me to answer them for you.

    Instead you made an assertion without the effort and knowledge of doing so and forced me to bear a cost. In other words, you’re a thief.

    P asks you to perform due diligence before polluting the informational commons with falsehoods. P consists of a methodology that you can use and the court can use to test whether you performed due diligence.

    P doesn’t ask us to know the truth. it asks us to perform due diligence against making false and harmful statements that pollute the information commons.

    The jury is exceptionally good at testing whether one did due diligence, and whether that due diligence is reasonable.

    Now, could keynesian economics survive? I don’t think so. Could postmodern academy survive? I don’t think so. But conservatism and anglo libertarianism can because they consists of nothing other than what I am proposing: rule of law with full accounting of display word and deed.

    Stifling discourse isn’t the point. Stifling the stupid, ignorant, lazy, dishonest, and malfeasant is the point.

    You would adapt your behavior. your returns on laziness in exchange for attention, signals, and possible income would be lower, and therefore the cost to the informational commons for the damage you do to it would be lower.

    The problem with our law is the increase in discretion under activist pressure because there is no formal logic to the law that limits its abuse.

    Now there is.

    No more lies. No more fraudulent returns. Not in commerce, not in finance, not in economics and politics – and not in shit-talking virtue signaling, attention seeking nonsense from the peanut gallery.

    Pay your way to enlightenment. Don’t make others pay to educate you in defense of the commons you seek to pollute.

    –follow up–

    (and it kind of pains me to point out that rule of law, which is the method that separates the west from ALL OTHER PEOPLES and is the single most influential reason for our success in the ancient and modern worlds, is how we live and how we always have lived other than under communism, socialism, and discretionary fascism. Rule of law is the goal of all peoples. It is GOVERNMENT in the via positiva that is discretionary. It is RULE in the via negativa by LAW that is not discretionary. WHile there is value in discretion in the allocation of punishments there is very little value in discretion of truth or falsehood. And despite what you (naively) might think, the courts are absurdly good at what they do. Despite the fact that we have ‘shitty’ laws. Particularly shitty laws defending men from women and the state.)


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 07:41:00 UTC

  • You can study Capitalism or Socialism or both… Or you can study rule of law by

    You can study Capitalism or Socialism or both… Or you can study rule of law by natural law and ignore both.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-05 18:39:00 UTC

  • GOVERNMENT UNDER PROPERTARIANISM, NOT PROPERTARIAN GOVERNMENT. (AND THE ABSOLUTI

    GOVERNMENT UNDER PROPERTARIANISM, NOT PROPERTARIAN GOVERNMENT. (AND THE ABSOLUTIST QUESTION)

    (core)

    Propertarianism consists of a methodology for producing truthful, rational, reciprocal, commensurable fully accounted speech that all but prohibits error, bias, deceit, and fraud. And the application of that method to the scope of human knowledge, producing a universal vocabulary and grammar commensurable across all disciplines.

    With this methodology, applied to law, you can produce arguments, constitutions and bodies of law, that are fully commensurable, fully accounted, and prohibit error, bias, deceit, and fraud.

    With these arguments, constitutions, and bodies of law you can produce any form of government – you just must do so truthfully with full accounting and transparency.

    There is no ideal form of government because different forms of government are more or less suitable to different demographic distributions, degrees of neoteny, states of cooperative (middle class) development, and more or less suitable to times of war, peace, and windfalls.

    There is however, an optimum system of government for european peoples, and any other peoples who wish to produce european standards of life, because this form of government provides the greatest limitation on rents, greatest incentive for production distribution and trade, and the greatest adaptability to change, greatest rates of innovation, and the greatest shared rewards (commons) because of all of the above.

    That system of government consists in:

    A Federation (nomocracy).

    Of Nation States.

    Under Rule of Law:

    …Federally Limited to material conflicts between polities.

    …Locally unlimited production of commons.

    …Each Administered by an Independent Judiciary.

    And Defended by:

    …A Universal militia

    …In Regimental Orders

    …And a Cadre of Professional Warriors.

    And either Limited Monarchy:

    …A Hereditary Monarchy

    …A Professional Cabinet

    …Houses of Juries by Class (assent, veto)

    …Privatized Bureaucracies

    Or Narrowly Participatory Monarchy:

    …A Hereditary Monarchy (assent, veto)

    …A Professional Cabinet

    …Houses as a Market between Classes (market)

    …Privatized Bureaucracies

    Or Broadly Participatory Monarchy:

    …A Hereditary Monarchy (assent, veto)

    …A Professional Cabinet

    …Virtual Houses as a Market between Classes (market)

    …Privatized Bureaucracies

    With each state producing commons suitable to the interests and desires of the people.

    I work under the model of progressive decline in sovereignty given ability to organize. The lesson of the soviet model is that

    (Authoritarian )

    Monarchy

    Military

    Warriors

    Judiciary

    Sheriffs

    Police

    (Market)

    Finance, Scientific Elites, Academic Elites

    Entrepreneur, Scientists, Professors

    professional, researchers, teachers

    administrator, research assistants, media.

    (Mixed Market)

    craftsman,

    laborer,

    dependents,

    (Non-Market)

    Soldiers

    Serfs

    Slaves

    Prisoners


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-02 10:25:00 UTC