Theme: Reciprocity

  • photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_kg5QueHwVw/91983328_247803306617830_27064540436

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    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_kg5QueHwVw/91983328_247803306617830_2706454043638628352_o_247803303284497.jpg WHICH ONE OF US DENIES GOD’S HAND?

    P’s premise is sovereignty reciprocity and testifiability that produce universal calculability in human word and deed. And that faith is by definition and necessity not testifiable. Meaning that one does not bring faith to court. if it isn’t a matter for court, then do as you will. We cannot legislate faith. We can only legislate actions. We can legislate against pseudoscience sophistry and the supernatural to advance frauds. Christianity does not ask us to legislate frauds. judaism, islam, marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and human biodiversity denial do ask us to. This is because our civilization has always separated law and religion under trifunctionalism. And as such we deliver unto god and Caesar’s law separately. This competition between material and spiritual has prevented the evils of jewish and muslim religion (deceits), the stagnation of the Hindu (too much mysticism), and the despotism of the Chinese (too much authority), and the crimes of the catholic church (too much corruption). So P continues the tradition of producing law law. And MEASURING DIFFERENT RELIGIONS by their violation of the law. If a religion does not violate the laws of nature, the natural law of man, and the evolutionary law of transcendence, then it does not violate the EVIDENCE of god’s hand in his own writing – the evidence written in the universe- rather than man’s misinterpretation of it. In the test of whether man has misinterpreted god’s intent, lied about god’s intent, the laws of nature, natural law and evolutionary necessity of transcendence allow us, using the evidence of gods’ hand, to determine the errors in religion. There is no error in Jesus’ teachings. It is the scientifically correct optimum. There is plenty of violation of gods laws in the bible. And every political religion (and christianity is a political religion) is far worse than the misinterpretations in the bible that does not come from Jesus’ teachings. The true religions are nature worship and ancestor worship (heathenism), hero worship (paganism), and a political religion of which christianity appears the optimum – at least, as Jesus spoke it not the many many people who have ‘interpreted’ everything other than Jesus’ word. I am bound by the necessities of physical law, the natural law and of evolutionary law of transcendence – because those are the only *faultless* evidence of god’s word and deed, whether one follows Divine, deist, or naturalist understandings of god. As such if you disagree with my position you must choose the words of men who erred and lied over the words of Jesus and the hand of god written in the hand of god, the physical laws of nature, the natural law of man, and the necessity of evolutionary transcendence. So which one of us denies god? You or me?WHICH ONE OF US DENIES GOD’S HAND?

    P’s premise is sovereignty reciprocity and testifiability that produce universal calculability in human word and deed. And that faith is by definition and necessity not testifiable. Meaning that one does not bring faith to court. if it isn’t a matter for court, then do as you will. We cannot legislate faith. We can only legislate actions. We can legislate against pseudoscience sophistry and the supernatural to advance frauds. Christianity does not ask us to legislate frauds. judaism, islam, marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and human biodiversity denial do ask us to. This is because our civilization has always separated law and religion under trifunctionalism. And as such we deliver unto god and Caesar’s law separately. This competition between material and spiritual has prevented the evils of jewish and muslim religion (deceits), the stagnation of the Hindu (too much mysticism), and the despotism of the Chinese (too much authority), and the crimes of the catholic church (too much corruption). So P continues the tradition of producing law law. And MEASURING DIFFERENT RELIGIONS by their violation of the law. If a religion does not violate the laws of nature, the natural law of man, and the evolutionary law of transcendence, then it does not violate the EVIDENCE of god’s hand in his own writing – the evidence written in the universe- rather than man’s misinterpretation of it. In the test of whether man has misinterpreted god’s intent, lied about god’s intent, the laws of nature, natural law and evolutionary necessity of transcendence allow us, using the evidence of gods’ hand, to determine the errors in religion. There is no error in Jesus’ teachings. It is the scientifically correct optimum. There is plenty of violation of gods laws in the bible. And every political religion (and christianity is a political religion) is far worse than the misinterpretations in the bible that does not come from Jesus’ teachings. The true religions are nature worship and ancestor worship (heathenism), hero worship (paganism), and a political religion of which christianity appears the optimum – at least, as Jesus spoke it not the many many people who have ‘interpreted’ everything other than Jesus’ word. I am bound by the necessities of physical law, the natural law and of evolutionary law of transcendence – because those are the only *faultless* evidence of god’s word and deed, whether one follows Divine, deist, or naturalist understandings of god. As such if you disagree with my position you must choose the words of men who erred and lied over the words of Jesus and the hand of god written in the hand of god, the physical laws of nature, the natural law of man, and the necessity of evolutionary transcendence. So which one of us denies god? You or me?


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-03 02:08:00 UTC

  • WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF MORALITY IF NOT XXXX? Very simple logic. Why should the st

    WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF MORALITY IF NOT XXXX?

    Very simple logic.

    Why should the strong not conquer, rape, pillage, and murder the weak?

    Because cooperation and numbers can be more rewarding over the long term.

    When are cooperation and numbers more rewarding than conquest, rape, pillage, and murder?

    When behavior is reciprocal.

    What does reciprocal mean?

    Do nothing that imposes costs upon the demonstrated interests of others either directly or indirectly – and conquer, rape, pillage, and murder anyone who does.

    And how do I do nothing that imposes costs upon the demonstrated interests of others either directly, or indirectly?

    Limit your display word and deed to productive, fully informed, voluntary transfer of demonstrated interests, free of imposition of costs upon the demonstrated interests of others by externality,

    The consequence: the most moral condition humanity can possibly create.

    Such men are the gods among men.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-01 14:53:00 UTC

  • MORALITY: THERE IS NOTHING COMPLEX TO UNDERSTAND. The use of morality outgroup i

    MORALITY: THERE IS NOTHING COMPLEX TO UNDERSTAND.

    The use of morality outgroup is only one of utility.

    The only moral imperative ingroup is reciprocity

    The only moral choice ingroup is christian tolerance and charity within the limits of that tolerance.

    Nothing else need be said.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-01 14:52:00 UTC

  • RECIPROCITY (FULL VERSION) The natural law is (+)Sovereignty and (-)Reciprocity,

    RECIPROCITY (FULL VERSION)

    The natural law is (+)Sovereignty and (-)Reciprocity, in display word and deed, including reciprocity in speech (truthful speech) regardless of cost to the status(dominance, competence hierarch), within the limits of proportionality (in group defection) within the limits of the utility of cooperation (out groups).

    “Within the limits of the utility of cooperation.”

    There is no ideal. There are no ideals.

    There is only what satisfies demand for infallibility.

    FULL VERSION

    Limiting our display word and deed to:

    – Fully informed (truthful and complete);

    – Regardless of cost to the status, competence, or dominance hierarchy.

    – Productive and;

    – Voluntary transfer (or exchange, or imposition of costs upon);

    – The Demonstrated interests of Others;

    – Either directly or indirectly (by externality)

    – Within the limit of incentive for in-group defection;

    – Within The Limit of the Utility of future out-group Cooperation;

    – And liable and warrantied, within the limits of restitutability;

    – Eliminating the incentive of retaliation and retaliation cycles,

    – And imposition of costs upon the commons of trust by which others cooperate.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-01 14:36:00 UTC

  • “Curt. So what does your utopia look like? And upon what moral axiom is it const

    —“Curt. So what does your utopia look like? And upon what moral axiom is it constructed? The materialized Doolittle system, not the P methodology of coexistence.”—Gideon Green

    1. I don’t do utopia. I do the incremental improvement of the group strategy of the european peoples: sovereignty, reciprocity tested by the natural law of tort (demonstrated interest).

    2. Axioms are arbitrary. Laws are identified. Reciprocity is the natural law necessary for any creatures that can voluntarily cooperate and choose from fields of opportunities for voluntary cooperation, within the limits of survivability.

    3. The natural law is Sovereignty and Reciprocity, including speech (truthful speech) regardless of cost, within the limits of proportionality (ingroup defection) within the limits of the utility of cooperation (outgroups). This is the counter-intuitive reduction of western civilization.

    4. The extension of the natural law of reciprocity is the exhaustion of forgiveness (optimum solution to the prisoner’s dilemma) before retaliation, restitution, punishment, and prevention, with prevention escalating to extermination. (this is the counter-intuitive reduction of christianity).

    5. The resulting markets in everything: association, cooperation, reproduction, production, commons, polities, elites, and war. With the competition between elites maintained by tripartism: judge law, aristocratic military, and faith.

    6 The hierarchy of institutions the Law, the monarch as a judge of last resort, the cabinet, the house of nobility(territory), the house of industry (commons), and the house of the family (church), and the universal militia of every able bodied man.

    7. The principle enhancements of the P-constitution, are amendements to the English, British, American constitutions, that correct the weaknesses of those constitutions under the industrialization of lying of the 20th, by the marxists, postmodernists, feminists, and HBD-Denialists (political correctness) that are a revolt against the darwinian revolution that explained the reason for western success: rapid, adaptive excellence and the suppression of the reproduction of the underclass for the purposes of directing surpluses to the production of commons instead – because of the disproportionate returns on commons, including heroism, excellence, beauty, discipline, trust, truthful speech regardless of cost – and of course the institutions of sovereignty and reciprocity regardless of status assuming one does his duty of preservation of all of the above.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-30 20:38:00 UTC

  • I mean you have ‘act in imitation of jesus’ that’s as simple as it gets. You hav

    I mean you have ‘act in imitation of jesus’ that’s as simple as it gets. You have the silver rule first, and the golden rule second. You have reciprocity within the limits of proportionality third. After that you’re into supply and demand curves: Science: and no dummies version.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 19:34:04 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244347108901167104

  • SIMPLE RULES EXIST I mean you have ‘act in imitation of jesus’ that’s as simple

    SIMPLE RULES EXIST

    I mean you have ‘act in imitation of jesus’ that’s as simple as it gets. You have the silver rule, and the golden rule second. You have reciprocity within the limits of proportionality third. After that you’re into supply and demand curves, and sorry, there is no dummies version.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 17:24:00 UTC

  • RESPONSE TO STEFAN MOLYNEUX Sigh. Let’s try an adult conversation, ok? –“Act on

    RESPONSE TO STEFAN MOLYNEUX

    Sigh. Let’s try an adult conversation, ok?

    –“Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law.”–Kant

    —“Act only such that you would prefer the behavior universal”— SM, UPB

    You seem to think I’m criticizing the Kantian imperative as a test of criminal behaviors. I’m not. I’m saying its insufficient and as a consequence a false promise, baiting into hazard – not that it’s false. I’m saying its half true and because it’s half true the consequences is harmful. The libertarian program baits well meaning fools into hazard just as others are baited into Judaism, christianity and islam, and neoconservatism, marxism, socialism, feminism, postmodernism, and HBD Denialism.

    I’m not saying KI, UPB, NAP are false.

    I’m saying they’re worse – they’re evil.

    0. MORAL

    1. FAILURE

    2. CAUSE

    0. MORAL

    a) |COST| (+)Evil < Bad < Criminal < Unethical < Immoral < Amoral > Moral > Ethical > Good > Righteous(+)

    b) |MORAL MARKET| Reproductive Moral Bias(Sex) > Genetic Moral Bias(Personality) > Personal Market Value Bias(Class) > Personal moral bias(Strategy) > group moral norms > traditional moral indoctrination > Legal Rules > Inter group moral necessity, evolutionary (survival) necessity.

    c) |MORAL DEMAND|: Positiva: rules for the creation and preservation of cooperation. Negativa:rules for the avoidance of loss of cooperation, incentive for retaliation, and incentive for retaliation cycles.

    d) |MORAL: Definition|: Satisfaction of Demand for Infallibility by Reciprocity, within the limits of proportionality, within the population of cooperative utility, within the possibility of escaping retaliation.

    1 – FAILURE

    Repeating the kantian imperative tells us nothing that kant didn’t tell us better. Even such, let’s test it. Where does this rule fail?

    “I am Genghis Khan. I prefer everyone fight, r-ape, murder, pillage, burn, so that only the best of us survive.”

    “I am Sayyid Qutb. I prefer everyone devote his life to pure islam, and to conduct war of conquest upon all those who do not.”

    “I am Karl Marx. I prefer everyone obtain the proceeds of production according to his needs”

    “I am Murray Rothbard. I prefer everyone circumvent production of commons, and maximize privatization.”

    “I am Betty Friedan. I prefer everyone adopt the female bias, objective, and behavior.”

    “I am Jaques Derrida. I prefer we all practice universal relativism so that together we may obtain power by prohibiting claims of truth and merit”

    And that’s within the meaning of ‘universal’. Then we get to the obvious distinction between those who do not consider others the same:

    “I am Je of Apinajé. I prefer every one of my men fight and kill as many Aparai so that the Apinaje will have more land, and we do not fear the Aparai.”

    “I am Dumnorix I prefer every one of us kill the other’s men, enslave the women, take the metal, cattle, and lands until all land is ours”

    And that before we get to those behaviors that are universally preferable because the prohibition of them is universally unpreferable:

    – Reproduction? (dysgenia)

    – Redistribution? (proportionality)

    – Free Riding? Rent Seeking.

    – Competition in norms traditions religions (institutions)

    – Lying? Fictionalisms? False Promise? Virtue Signaling? (disinformation)

    – Cheating?

    – Price gouging?

    – Blackmail?

    – What about Baiting into Hazard? All monotheistic religion, Marxism, postmodernism, feminism, make use of baiting into hazard.

    “SOURCES OF IGNORANCE”

    Sophistry is a source of ignorance. Philosophical rationalism is a source of ignorance. Theology is a source of ignorance. There are no shortcuts to knowledge, You pay for them.

    You can choose the truth: Action: Law, Testimony, Science, Mathematics. You can choose sophistry (philosophy), you can choose supernatural sophistry(Theology) or you can choose pseudoscience.

    You can choose – but some of us will hold you accountable for the harm you do.

    2 – CAUSE

    WHY?

    The kantian imperative (and the upb, and NAP) test only the reductive and trivial. it tests Crime maybe, ethics less so, morality not at all, consequence is intentionally off the table. There is no disagreement on the obvious. But there is no need to justify the obvious either. It’s the non-obvious that is the source of political conflict.

    We are, our lives are, far more affected by political conflict than we are by the obvious – which is no more difficult than the silver rule for the outgroup plus the golden rule for the ingroup.

    We all exist in a continuous market competition between the legal, normative, and interpersonal limitations on our irreciprocity (free riding, parasitism, predation. across the criminal, unethical, immoral, and evil) and humans demonstrably practice the minimum avoidance of the criminal, unethical, and immoral. We signal morality to generate opportunity within our preferred moral biases. But we deliver on that signal as little as we can get away with without retaliation.

    APPEAL TO INTUITION

    UPB, KI, Rothbardianism, neoconservatism, Marxism, socialism, postmodernism, feminism, and hbd-denialism all appeal to our intuitions – the animal. They do not provide us with decidability.

    HOW

    SUGGESTION AND ARBITRARY SUBSTITUTION

    So what door do the KI, UPB, NAP leave open? Suggestion and arbitrary substitution.

    The incompleteness (Half Truth) leaves open the door for suggestion under which the well meaning fool presumes he agrees, but by agreement prohibits him from further knowledge gain. The more repetition of this half truth the more damned he becomes by the trap of feeling confidence in explanatory power that is only half true and blinds him to the full truth – which is often the very opposite of the false promise of the knowledge he presumes to have.

    Because KI, UPB, and NAP leave open the door to arbitrary substitution, they are limited to the trivial, and fail to solve the meaningful.

    This is the same problem I had with hoppe: everything after the justification is fine. But the justification was ridiculous. instead of hanging his hat on his application he hung it on his justification. Same problem I have with your work. It’s weak. The whole libertarian, ancap, reactionary program is weak.

    Humans converge on that imperative within the limits of their geographic, demographic, conomic, military, institutional, familial, and cultural method of organizing.

    THERE ARE NO ADVANCED THINKERS IN LIBERTARIANISM.

    Why? It fails.

    It’s just another version of pilpul

    UPB, KI, and Rothbardianism are false – it’s worse. THEY”RE EVIL. Insidiously so. Insidiously evil. They prey on western man and woman’s high trust.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 15:11:00 UTC

  • THROWING DOWN THE GAUNTLET TO MOLYNEUX – OUT OF NECESSITY NOT WANT But is UPB in

    THROWING DOWN THE GAUNTLET TO MOLYNEUX – OUT OF NECESSITY NOT WANT

    But is UPB in fact a test he claims it to be?

    It’s not.

    —“People expect too much from UPB, it merely demonstrates that rape, theft, etc. and other asymmetric actions can’t be UPB. … In that sense it is naive, as it accomplishes very little. And in the mean time Stefan has failed to expand it, which we all sorta wanted.”—@LLaddon

    UPB like Rothbardianism is a case of baiting into hazard. Nothing meaningful is answered by UPB or The Kantian Imperative. Worse, it’s open to substitution. So UPB, like KI and Rothbardianism isn’t false. It’s worse. It’s evil.

    How is that for a repositioning?

    So ‘people expect too much’ of not being lead by the pied piper? People expect to much of not being told heroin is addictive?

    UPB, KI, Rothbardian Libertarianism are just another false promise, baiting well meaning fools into hazard, advancing the strategy of the enemy using the enemy’s favorite technique: sewing conflict by false promise.

    (Under P-Law you are accountable for a failure of due diligence against baiting into hazard.)

    Moly did nothing Kant didn’t do better. Kant gave us Marx who gave us Adorno-Fromm, Derrida, Friedan, Rothbard – and Molyneux. Continental rationalism is just jewish pilpul via Christianity

    So I was trying (for two years now) to avoid doing to Molyneux what I did to mises, rothbard, Friedman and Hoppe. Because I wanted to preserve his utility in shifting the well meaning fools.

    But. I guess, I’m just going to have to take out his foundations entirely instead.

    Sophistry is anti-european. The Law is the Law, Testimony is produced by science. Science is the process of discovery. And Mathematics is its measure.

    No more sophistry.

    Philosophy – in the sense f philosophical rationalism – is dead.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 15:02:00 UTC

  • NO, MORALITY ISN’T SUBJECTIVE PER SE – JUST MINOR VARIATION IN IT IS. —“…JFG

    NO, MORALITY ISN’T SUBJECTIVE PER SE – JUST MINOR VARIATION IN IT IS.

    —“…JFG claimed that morality is subjective entirely…”—

    Well, I corrected him. Personal moral bias is subjective. We compete with others in a market of moral biases. We converge to reciprocity within our local geographic, demographic, familial, social, economic, and political organizations, and we absolutely converge on reciprocity in international affairs where there is no means of enforcement other than boycott, trade war, or war.

    Personal Moral Bias > Local Market Moral Bias > World Market Moral bias.

    We rarely if ever find people who do not engage in reciprocity within the limits of proportionality who are not outcast or imprisoned or worse.

    SO it’s false that we do not practice reciprocity. We just limit the scope of reciprocity that we take to market to avoid others, cooperate with others, or prey upon others.

    But the differences in our scopes of reciprocity narrow as we approach the global BECAUSE THE UTILITY OF OF OUR CHOICE DECLINES WITH SCALE.

    Sociopaths often practice reciprocity just fine. Because it’s useful. Empathics practice reciprocity just fine, because they intuit it. The difference is that the first is by experience and reason, the second is by biological intuition.

    A cooperative species – meaning one that can select whether to cooperate or not – cannot survive without moral intuition.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 11:44:00 UTC